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Preparing hardware mod of X-fi cards - information needed
I'm going to appeal to the members of this board to provide me with information for a database that will help me plan for a hardware modification of X-fi cards. More details on that later.
What I will need, should you choose to help me, is: 1. the exact model of your X-fi card. Often the model silkscreened on the board is wrong, for instance all Dell OEM cards say "SB0460" whereas in fact they are SB0467. The most reliable way to determine the exact model number is from the serial number. The serial number is on a sticker on the back of the card, like so: ![]() In this case the serial number is MSB0240240030167. The serial number indicates that it's a model SB0240. What I would like you to post is the first 8 digits of your card's serial number (for instance if you had this card you would post "MSB02402") 2. The card's Hardware ID as seen by the driver. To do that: -if you're on XP: go to control panel -> system -> hardware -> device manager -> sound, video and game controllers -> soundblaster X-fi -> details tab; in "details" choose from the drop list "matching device ID". There will be a string displayed; please copy that string and post it here. -if you're on Vista/Win7: control panel -> device manager -> sound,video and game controllers -> soundblaster x-fi -> details tab -> from the drop list, choose "hardware IDs"; there will be one or more strings displayed. Please copy those strings and post them here. Thanks! |
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Re: Preparing hardware mod of X-fi cards - information needed
Moved to more proper part of the forums.
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Re: Preparing hardware mod of X-fi cards - information needed
The model no. =MASB0460
Hardware Ids PCI\VEN_1102&DEV_0005&SUBSYS_00211102&REV_00 PCI\VEN_1102&DEV_0005&SUBSYS_00211102 PCI\VEN_1102&DEV_0005&CC_040100 PCI\VEN_1102&DEV_0005&CC_0401 |
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Re: Preparing hardware mod of X-fi cards - information needed
Thank you! Keep them coming.
Thinking of it, let me post mine too. Model=MASB0467 Hardware IDs: PCI\VEN_1102&DEV_0005&SUBSYS_10031102&REV_00 PCI\VEN_1102&DEV_0005&SUBSYS_10031102 PCI\VEN_1102&DEV_0005&CC_040100 PCI\VEN_1102&DEV_0005&CC_0401 Model=MASB046A Hardware IDs: PCI\VEN_1102&DEV_0005&SUBSYS_002C1102&REV_00 PCI\VEN_1102&DEV_0005&SUBSYS_002C1102 PCI\VEN_1102&DEV_0005&CC_040100 PCI\VEN_1102&DEV_0005&CC_0401 Last edited by jh1523; May 3, 2010 at 10:22 PM. |
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Re: Preparing hardware mod of X-fi cards - information needed
Here ya go, hope it helps
Model: SB0886 PCI\VEN_1102&DEV_000B&SUBSYS_00431102&REV_04 PCI\VEN_1102&DEV_000B&SUBSYS_00431102 PCI\VEN_1102&DEV_000B&CC_040300 PCI\VEN_1102&DEV_000B&CC_0403 |
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Re: Preparing hardware mod of X-fi cards - information needed
Thanks - keep 'em coming!
I won't be able to work on the hardware mod itself until sometime next week when I expect to get a few components in the mail. What I can say is that it'll be something similar to the Live! to Live! 5.1 Hardware Upgrade |
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Re: Preparing hardware mod of X-fi cards - information needed
Model: MASB073A (XtremeGamer acquired 1/08)
PCI\VEN_1102&DEV_0005&SUBSYS_00311102&REV_00 PCI\VEN_1102&DEV_0005&SUBSYS_00311102 PCI\VEN_1102&DEV_0005&CC_040100 PCI\VEN_1102&DEV_0005&CC_0401 Good luck. ![]() Last edited by chickenboom; May 5, 2010 at 12:40 AM. |
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Re: Preparing hardware mod of X-fi cards - information needed
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And a little more info on my project. My goal is to take this table: http://www.creative.com/soundblaster/X-FiList/ and see if I can turn all the "no"s into "yes"es.
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Re: Preparing hardware mod of X-fi cards - information needed
Preliminary results show that the hardware mod was successful; but I'm on a trip now and won't be able to do any in-depth testing until next week when I get back home.
BTW I would still like to get some data from owners of model SB0466 (X-Fi Fatal1ty FPS). |
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Re: Preparing hardware mod of X-fi cards - information needed
help this one?
MASB0710 HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_1102&DEV_000A&SUBSYS_11021001& REV_1000 HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_1102&DEV_000A&SUBSYS_11021001 |
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Re: Preparing hardware mod of X-fi cards - information needed
Short announcement: I have now confirmed that the hardware mod works. I have transformed a Dell OEM XtremeMusic (SB0467) into a full retail XtremeMusic (SB0460) by modifying the firmware and changing the HardwareID therein. The card installs on a fresh computer with the official drivers downloaded from Creative's website as a full XtremeMusic with all the functions enabled and working correctly, including the Dolby/DTS decoder (which was disabled previously).
Why did I do this? Because there are plenty of cheap OEM cards on eBay, which can be reborn into full retail versions for practically no extra cost. I will next try to convert similarly a XtremeGamer Fatal1ty Pro (which also has the Dolby decoder disabled by default) into a Fatal1ty FPS. If there is interest on this board I will post full details on the mod so that anyone can do it. BTW here's the old HardwareID string: Code:
PCI\VEN_1102&DEV_0005&SUBSYS_10031102&REV_00 Code:
PCI\VEN_1102&DEV_0005&SUBSYS_00211102&REV_00
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Re: Preparing hardware mod of X-fi cards - information needed
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Thanks in advance. I'm eager to try your permanent fix
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Re: Preparing hardware mod of X-fi cards - information needed
Quick update, I have turned a X-fi XtremeGamer Fatal1ty Pro into a Fatal1ty FPS, which again enables DD and DTS decoding. I first tried to mod it into a Auzen Prelude 7.1, and it worked, was recognized as such by the unmodified Auzen drivers and installed with all the features including DDL/DTS connect, however... no sound would come out of the jacks.
So I re-modded it into a FPS, and it worked nicely, I even got sound now.
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Good work jh1523! I'm also eager to learn how you did it.
I have noticed that jp2 on my 0467 grounds the wp pin of the eprom. Were you able to reprogram the eprom without removing it from the card? |
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Re: Preparing hardware mod of X-fi cards - information needed
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I'm currently pondering how much detail to include in the procedure. My goal is definitely not teach anyone how to desolder and solder SMT components, so I won't provide much detail as to how to do that physically. You either already know how to do it, or you will have to find someone to do it for you. |
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Re: Preparing hardware mod of X-fi cards - information needed
After looking at the Live to Live 5.1 page I suspected that removing the eprom would be required. Thanks for the info!
I've cut the cable off an old parallel port webcam to use to construct a eprom programmer. Did you just have to change the 1003 to 0021 or were there more changes that needed to be made? Last edited by X-FI-xtremeuser; May 19, 2010 at 10:52 PM. |
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Re: Preparing hardware mod of X-fi cards - information needed
1003 => 0021 and 002c => 0023 respectively.
![]() BTW I used PonyProg PonyProg - Serial device programmer with a serial SI-prog interface SI Prog schematics In any case, you need a I2C-capable programmer. I found that it doesn't matter whether you use 24C or 24F series eeproms, they all work the same in this application (my 0467 had originally a 24F32 on, but a 24C32 works). Also I didn't just reprogram the eeproms but rather read them then program blank chips with the modified firmware (saved the original chips intact). You can get samples for free from microchip.com ![]() If you want to save yourself the trouble of building a programmer, you can get compatible hardware on eBay for about 20 bucks, for instance this one: http://cgi.ebay.com/24Cxx-93Cxx-and-...item1c123c60f0 And of course the SOIC-8 to DIP-8 adapters - search for "soic dip adapter"; for instance this one: http://cgi.ebay.com/SOIC-adapter-boa...item414a33b8fa Last edited by jh1523; May 20, 2010 at 03:19 AM. |
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Re: Preparing hardware mod of X-fi cards - information needed
Thanks jh1523 for the information! I'm going to give it a try.
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I've not completey tested it out but I now have the decoder tab in audio control panel using my 0467.
![]() Thanks again jh1523. |
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Re: Preparing hardware mod of X-fi cards - information needed
hi folks back than when it was worthed i hard modded OEm audigy 2zs into full sb0350 with flashing 93c46 eeprom on the sb now i made a mistake and bought an oem x-fi sb0467 (dell ) i need the bin file from sb0460 please help!
i have some bins like sb0350/sb0360 if anyone wants them please email !cheers |
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Re: Preparing hardware mod of X-fi cards - information needed
I have a 0460 but don't know how to get the BIN file. Can anyone tell me the difference between an 0460 and an 0467.
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Re: Preparing hardware mod of X-fi cards - information needed
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also l;acks some other features
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Re: Preparing hardware mod of X-fi cards - information needed
Ahh sorry I can't help then - I don't have those tools.
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Re: Preparing hardware mod of X-fi cards - information needed
can i have the bin file please from sb0460 + i need to get rid of the del oem disables
my mail kokoss@mail.bg thanx !
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Re: Preparing hardware mod of X-fi cards - information needed
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Re: Preparing hardware mod of X-fi cards - information needed
we are still waiting for the bin pleasE someone share it !
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Re: Preparing hardware mod of X-fi cards - information needed
I did not need the bin file from the 0460. Read previous post from jh1523.
(1003 => 0021 and 002c => 0023 respectively. ...) 1003=0467, 0021=0460, (002c=>0023 checksum I guess). |
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Re: Preparing hardware mod of X-fi cards - information needed
Has anyone tried this recently ? I am waiting on a similar card and am anxious to rip it out and mod it
I have all the tools needed but am not sure about the code, can anyone confirm this ?
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