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Old Jun 27, 2002, 04:25 PM   #1
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I have a SB Audigy Gamer card and when playing High Heat 2003, I get an annoying announcer problem where sentences are repeated constantly. I have to turn down Hardware Acceleration one notch to get rid of the problem. Would the Santa Cruz card work better?
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Probably.
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Are you using the latest compaq drivers for your Audigy? If not, get them here:

http://users2.ev1.net/~dallasstar/Cr...ps/drivers.ace

(you don't need a compaq to use these)
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I have the latest drivers from Creative's website. The problem is a compatibility issue with High Heat 2003 that forces everyone with Audigy cards to turn down acceleration one notch. I am wondering how it goes with the Santa Cruz card?
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I have the latest drivers from Creative's website. The problem is a compatibility issue with High Heat 2003 that forces everyone with Audigy cards to turn down acceleration one notch. I am wondering how it goes with the Santa Cruz card?
Creative's site has older drivers than the ones I posted. Please try these:they are very good. You may be pleasantly surprised in the audio quality (and possibly in game compatibility) after installing.
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No offense, but I think it is kind of pathetic when you have to download drivers for your sound card from a third party manufacturer to fix major sound issues.
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Creative's site has older drivers than the ones I posted. Please try these:they are very good. You may be pleasantly surprised in the audio quality (and possibly in game compatibility) after installing.
I know you're trying to be helpful, but do you think Compaq has better drivers than what Creative lists on their website? How do you think Compaq gets those drivers? I'd be willing to bet they get them from Creative for their OEM cards. I have a retail version of Audigy and can't see using Compaq drivers for my card - just doesn't make sense.

The Creative drivers may look older because Compaq gets the updated driver for their OEM card when Creative feels like giving it to them, and that will be after the driver is posted on Creative's site. However, I do not believe that Creative is giving Compaq a better driver, only a driver for their OEM card.
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No offense, but I think it is kind of pathetic when you have to downlaod drivers for your sound card from a third party manufacturer to fix major sound issues.
Compaq does not have better drivers for the Audigy card. Compaq has drivers provided to them from Creative for the OEM version that Compaq uses. The best drivers for the Audigy card Retail version is found at Creative's website.
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If I'm not mistaken, to get the new drivers form Creative you need to pay to have a CD shipped to you. I don't know if this is still happening or not, but I think it is true still.
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If I'm not mistaken, to get the new drivers form Creative you need to pay to have a CD shipped to you. I don't know if this is still happening or not, but I think it is true still.
No, you are mistaken. Anyone with a retail version can download the newest driver from Creative's website.
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No, I meant future drivers. What is on their website is definitely not the newest revision. A newer revision can be found at Compaq's site for God's sake.
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Compaq does not have better drivers for the Audigy card. Compaq has drivers provided to them from Creative for the OEM version that Compaq uses. The best drivers for the Audigy card Retail version is found at Creative's website.
Okay, suit yourself. I have verified that these drivers are indeed newer than any drivers available on the creative website. Its pretty sad that third parties have newer drivers than the manufacturer itself, but that's just the way it is...

For example: People get ATI driver leaks all the time. An official driver only comes about once every 3-4 months. See where I'm going?

These drivers are indeed newer than the ones on Creative's site. I have verified this myself. I don't know why you're being so stubborn about how "your drivers are the best". Have you even looked at these? Compaq gets these directly from Creative (but Creative is too lazy to add it to its site )

Just to prove to you that they are newer, see this: http://users2.ev1.net/~dallasstar/untitled.gif

Now, rightclick "mycomputer". go to properties. hardware. device manager. now, under the "sound, video and game controllers", look for "sb audigy" and rightclick and go to properties. go to the drivers tab. Now compare the date in my picture to the one you are seeing. Surprised?
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Dallas, I think he was brainwashed by the Microsoft Tech Supportâ„¢.
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Dallas, I think he was brainwashed by the Microsoft Tech Supportâ„¢.
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Okay, suit yourself. I have verified that these drivers are indeed newer than any drivers available on the creative website. Its pretty sad that third parties have newer drivers than the manufacturer itself, but that's just the way it is...

For example: People get ATI driver leaks all the time. An official driver only comes about once every 3-4 months. See where I'm going?

These drivers are indeed newer than the ones on Creative's site. I have verified this myself. I don't know why you're being so stubborn about how "your drivers are the best". Have you even looked at these? Compaq gets these directly from Creative (but Creative is too lazy to add it to its site )

Just to prove to you that they are newer, see this: http://users2.ev1.net/~dallasstar/untitled.gif

Now, rightclick "mycomputer". go to properties. hardware. device manager. now, under the "sound, video and game controllers", look for "sb audigy" and rightclick and go to properties. go to the drivers tab. Now compare the date in my picture to the one you are seeing. Surprised?
Driver Leaks? Well, ATI does have a "beta" version available. So Compaq has the latest drivers for the Audigy card, and better drivers for the Audigy card than Creative has at its website. What possible reason could there be for Creative to provide Compaq with a better driver than what's available at its own site??? Is it some sort of conspiracy? What you didn't show in the link provided is the "main" driver for your sound card. Look in Driver Details and see if you have e10kx2K.sys listed, then highlight and see if it says File Version 5.12.01 0134.1.20.0030.
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Driver Leaks? Well, ATI does have a "beta" version available. So Compaq has the latest drivers for the Audigy card, and better drivers for the Audigy card than Creative has at its website. What possible reason could there be for Creative to provide Compaq with a better driver than what's available at its own site??? Is it some sort of conspiracy? What you didn't show in the link provided is the "main" driver for your sound card. Look in Driver Details and see if you have e10kx2K.sys listed, then highlight and see if it says File Version 5.12.01 0134.1.20.0030.
Surprise Surprise I have a newer version than you 5.12.01.0242-1.31.0020

Notice that in your version, the bold area says "0134". Dude, did you come here to get help or did you just come here to fuss?
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I would suggest that instead of arguing over the the drivers, you guys should just settle your differences and buy cards from a better company. The world would be a much better place then.
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I would suggest that instead of arguing over the the drivers, you guys should just settle your differences and buy cards from a better company. The world would be a much better place then.
Yes that's always a valid option, but what about the 90 bucks wasted on the Audigy? Who's gonna pay for that? (God know's I'd take back my 90 bucks and then buy a 45 dollar Acoustic Edge or a 90 dollar GTXP that comes with a breakout box included any day... the only reason I got the Audigy was cuz of EAX3 and it is quite nice, but not worth missing out on Sensaura technology which prolly sounds just as nice .... not to mention all the connections which I thought would be included with the standard audigy that weren't such as spdif inputs and optical inputs ). I wish I had been smarter earlier. (though I still like my Audigy very much and am more than satisfied with the sound quality)
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Yes that's always a valid option, but what about the 90 bucks wasted on the Audigy? Who's gonna pay for that? (God know's I'd take back my 90 bucks and then buy a 45 dollar Acoustic Edge or a 90 dollar GTXP that comes with a breakout box included any day... the only reason I got the Audigy was cuz of EAX3 and it is quite nice, but not worth missing out on Sensaura technology which prolly sounds just as nice .... not to mention all the connections which I thought would be included with the standard audigy that weren't such as spdif inputs and optical inputs ). I wish I had been smarter earlier. (though I still like my Audigy very much and am more than satisfied with the sound quality)
Is Creative selling Live Drives for these yet???
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Surprise Surprise I have a newer version than you 5.12.01.0242-1.31.0020

Notice that in your version, the bold area says "0134". Dude, did you come here to get help or did you just come here to fuss?
Creative did tell me there was a "beta" version out and THAT'S probably what you have. The Creative tech guy who told me about the beta download suggested I don't use it. I didn't question him on the issue and don't really care since I don't beta test products.
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Is Creative selling Live Drives for these yet???
1. No they are not selling audigy drives. They sell live drives, but won't support them when used with an Audigy.
2. For the price of one of their overrated "livedrives" (without soundcard), I could buy a Gametheatre XP with a breakout box and all connections that a livedrive has for cheaper.
3. I've seen hardware decoders such as the midiland ADS2000 cheaper than their stupid live drives.
4. I am pissed at Creative for ripping me off
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RMA the bastard, get a new card/box, sell it on Ebay, buy a better card.
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1. No they are not selling audigy drives. They sell live drives, but won't support them when used with an Audigy.
2. For the price of one of their overrated "livedrives" (without soundcard), I could buy a Gametheatre XP with a breakout box and all connections that a livedrive has for cheaper.
3. I've seen hardware decoders such as the midiland ADS2000 cheaper than their stupid live drives.
4. I am pissed at Creative for ripping me off
Odd their not selling one for the Audigy. Did they ever start selling them with the black bezel? Last I knew they was going for around $100.00.
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RMA the bastard, get a new card/box, sell it on Ebay, buy a better card.
I'd love to do that if I could. BUT: I'm 15. I dont have a credit card or a paypal account. My father will NEVER let me use ebay cuz he "doesn't trust it". Very good plan though.
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No, I meant future drivers. What is on their website is definitely not the newest revision. A newer revision can be found at Compaq's site for God's sake.
Here we go again. There is a beta version available that Creative does not recommend because it probably isn't supported. I haven't been to Compaq's site, err, should we say Compaq/HP's site, but I believe the driver must be either a beta version or specifically for their OEM version of Audigy. I have seen this with other manufacturers such as Dell and Gateway who offer OEM versions of Audigy and drivers for their OEM version. These drivers are not supported by Creative and are not to be used with the Retail version.

Really, the newest drivers for Creative are not available at Creative's site but available at Compaq's site - very funny indeed.

I seriously doubt beta drivers are at Compaq's site. I do believe it is as at other manufacturer sites a driver for their OEM version.
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Here we go again. There is a beta version available that Creative does not recommend because it probably isn't supported. I haven't been to Compaq's site, err, should we say Compaq/HP's site, but I believe the driver must be either a beta version or specifically for their OEM version of Audigy. I have seen this with other manufacturers such as Dell and Gateway who offer OEM versions of Audigy and drivers for their OEM version. These drivers are not supported by Creative and are not to be used with the Retail version.

Really, the newest drivers for Creative are not available at Creative's site but available at Compaq's site - very funny indeed.

I seriously doubt beta drivers are at Compaq's site. I do believe it is as at other manufacturer sites a driver for their OEM version.
Yeah, the OEM and Retail are COMPLETELY different cards, but the OEM is still called the Audigy right? ..... you are making it very hard to help you.....why?

The only difference betweent he OEM and Retail is that the OEM does not have gold plating on the areas for the connections. Rather, it has colorful plastic. Does that change anything about the card? No.

You have to realize... if Creative were to change something about the card other than just luxury things like gold plating, they wouldn't be able to call that card an Audigy. People would complain left and right about how they didn't get what they wanted etc.

You should also realize that Creative is just lazy and doesn't take much action to update its website (as far as drivers are concerned....but I do notice a lot of "hey, this is our new product" type of updates). Why can't you understand that? I remember I used to think "oh creative would never do that".... but now I know better.
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Yeah, the OEM and Retail are COMPLETELY different cards, but the OEM is still called the Audigy right? ..... you are making it very hard to help you.....why?

The only difference betweent he OEM and Retail is that the OEM does not have gold plating on the areas for the connections. Rather, it has colorful plastic. Does that change anything about the card? No.

You have to realize... if Creative were to change something about the card other than just luxury things like gold plating, they wouldn't be able to call that card an Audigy. People would complain left and right about how they didn't get what they wanted etc.

You should also realize that Creative is just lazy and doesn't take much action to update its website (as far as drivers are concerned....but I do notice a lot of "hey, this is our new product" type of updates). Why can't you understand that? I remember I used to think "oh creative would never do that".... but now I know better.
Creative is lazy? They can provide Compaq with better drivers but are just too lazy to post them at their own site? Sure. You can believe what you wish.

I spoke with Creative today and was told any drivers at Compaq's site are not newer versions than at Creative's site. The version number means nothing as they are drivers for the OEM version. Yes, there is a difference between the OEM and retail version. In fact, my computer came with the OEM version of Audigy but not the extender for Midi/Joystick port and when I complained long and hard, they sent me a check to buy the retail version. There are other design characteristics that can be different as well. You never know what a manufacturer will request with an OEM version to save money - and that's why I will never upgrade a video or sound card to get an OEM version. As for your Compaq drivers, I think it's ludicrous to believe Compaq is providing newer drivers for the Audigy card than what Creative posts at their website. Very silly and quite ridiculous.
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Creative did tell me there was a "beta" version out and THAT'S probably what you have. The Creative tech guy who told me about the beta download suggested I don't use it. I didn't question him on the issue and don't really care since I don't beta test products.
shit creative answered a question you emailed them; what has the world come to.
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i will try those compaq's they'll probably work...

here's another issue I JUST got...

After I loaded SP1 (b1065) now my sound has to be maxed out for me to hear it at all. If it is not totally maxed for the main sound (play control volume) it won't work. Additionally, my mic no longer works (well, it will send the 1/2 of a second to others [I use gamevoice] but after that goes dead until I come back into it).

I've reloaded the Audigy drivers and Gamevoice to no avail. Anyone had this problem yet?




by the way, sometimes my stupid PC freezes up on someone saying something and repeats it over and over... was that the hardware thing you were talking about?
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i will try those compaq's they'll probably work...

here's another issue I JUST got...

After I loaded SP1 (b1065) now my sound has to be maxed out for me to hear it at all. If it is not totally maxed for the main sound (play control volume) it won't work. Additionally, my mic no longer works (well, it will send the 1/2 of a second to others [I use gamevoice] but after that goes dead until I come back into it).

I've reloaded the Audigy drivers and Gamevoice to no avail. Anyone had this problem yet?




by the way, sometimes my stupid PC freezes up on someone saying something and repeats it over and over... was that the hardware thing you were talking about?
Without turning hardware acceleration for my Audigy card down one notch, the announcer repeats and repeats from the very beginning.

If you own a retail version of the Audigy card, I suggest you don't download any driver for your Audigy that is on Compaq's site.
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