Anyone out there not use a Creative Card?

lethoso · Jul 11, 2002, 03:54 AM

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Originally posted by fatty100lb
i am so sorry you lot cannot get on with creative. i have never had a problem with them from my first creative graphics card gf2 gts ddr the original right the way through to my soundblaster 5.1 which more than kicks ass. also use cambridge audio 5.1 speakers. used to have a sonic foundry and hated it so i went back to creative. love em to bits they make the best sound cards by far.

bah... they sound like shit compared to similar priced cards and my vibra died when i changed my graphics card.... so i got me a fortissimo 2....

never touching anything from creative again, even with a 10 ft pole.....

Olawy · Jul 11, 2002, 07:02 AM

Genius SoundMaker Live 5.1
Basically fortemedia 801-AU based cheapo
soundcard,what works fine enaugh.

Malus · Jul 11, 2002, 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by fatty100lb
i am so sorry you lot cannot get on with creative. i have never had a problem with them from my first creative graphics card gf2 gts ddr the original right the way through to my soundblaster 5.1 which more than kicks ass. also use cambridge audio 5.1 speakers. used to have a sonic foundry and hated it so i went back to creative. love em to bits they make the best sound cards by far.

What's a "sonic foundry"?

Necrosis · Jul 11, 2002, 12:01 PM

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Originally posted by Malus
What's a "sonic foundry"?

Last I knew they made audio/video software. News to me they make sound cards too.

Cunnuk · Jul 11, 2002, 03:54 PM

Turtle Beach Santa Cruz

Never had any problems with it.
Unlike the SB cards I've used in he past AWE 64, LIve Value and the 5.1, I was never happy with them. SB might have been once a good. But since I went the Santa Cruz I've been one happy camper.

Wounded Paw · Jul 20, 2002, 04:58 AM

A Sonic Fury is a Santa Cruz under a different name in Europe and I think that's what the other poster meant by Sonic Foundry (cuz that's an audio app company)

My Santa Cruz has done great for me for gaming and pumping dolby digital out to my reciever for DVDs. It's CPU utilization is way smaller than anything by Creative. Hell Creative made different cards all based on the same crappy old audio chip for years and noone even batted an eyelash. And just do a quick scan of these forums or any other hardware forums to discover how many problems arise from Creative soundcards.

The Audigy is no revolution in audio, it's just Creative finally buying something new. It's not Pro-Audio quality no matter what their press says and no one should be using it for audio production.
You want pro-audio, go to M-Audio or something else that the professionals actually use. It doesn't have to cost a lot more.
I'm happy to see a lot of people seem to have the right opinion of Creative especially the post about them killing the best 3-d audio company out there!
My $.02.
Cheerz,
Wounded Paw

P4 2.0A GHz, 512 MB PC2700
Asus P4B533, ATI Radeon 8500DV
M-Audio Delta TDIF pro-audio, Santa Cruz game audio
WD 120GB a/v drive, 30GB system drive
Plextor 40/12/24 CDRW
and a bunch of other stuff inboard and outboard

FuNsTeR · Jul 20, 2002, 08:02 AM

if anyone wants my Videologic Sonicfury (Santa Cruz) their welcome to it soundblaster live player 5.1 is way better than that heap o shyte ..... it doesn't like Sonique the best mp3 player for sound and visuals .... winamp sux

Wholemeal Apollo · Jul 20, 2002, 08:29 AM

I've got two cards: ess maestro 2em, and a crative extigy. Both work fine...

Malus · Jul 20, 2002, 10:10 AM

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Originally posted by FuNsTeR1970
if anyone wants my Videologic Sonicfury (Santa Cruz) their welcome to it soundblaster live player 5.1 is way better than that heap o shyte ..... it doesn't like Sonique the best mp3 player for sound and visuals .... winamp sux

Is that possible?

FuNsTeR · Jul 20, 2002, 10:22 AM

try installing sonique with Sonic fury card installed .... masses of errors win 98se is the worse errors im glad im back with 5.1 my old live value card also rocked .... i never had any probs with Creative sound cards .... Intel .... thats a different story

DallasStar · Jul 20, 2002, 10:24 AM

And for anyone wondering, I will be recieving his sonic fury

.... so don't bother askin!!

Funster... you are a truly generous man. THANKYOU!!

FuNsTeR · Jul 20, 2002, 10:28 AM

no problem mate will send on monday its no use to me siting in my flat you'll need to download the Xp Drivers for it ...

Necrosis · Jul 20, 2002, 12:19 PM

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Originally posted by Necrosis
I finally have my new card and it's installed. I must say the sound on it is amazing with my Klipsch, especially nice with the built in MP3 decoding. I've only tried it in JDKII as far as games go, but it has a very clean sound. I think it has a much warmer sound than my Audigy gamer. I'm very pleased with it. Good bye Creative!!

I posted this back on 5-23-02.

I just ordered a Hercules Game Theater XP 6.1 last night from Newegg..I love upgrading just to try stuff out!!

Necrosis · Jul 20, 2002, 12:20 PM

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Originally posted by FuNsTeR1970
if anyone wants my Videologic Sonicfury (Santa Cruz) their welcome to it soundblaster live player 5.1 is way better than that heap o shyte ..... it doesn't like Sonique the best mp3 player for sound and visuals .... winamp sux

Works fine for me man..weird.

DallasStar · Jul 20, 2002, 01:49 PM

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Originally posted by Necrosis
I posted this back on 5-23-02.

I just ordered a Hercules Game Theater XP 6.1 last night from Newegg..I love upgrading just to try stuff out!!

You like trying stuff out huh?

.... well, that GTXP'll be just the same as your santacruz.... (except it'll have a breakout box)

...did you ever consider the king of all soundcards? Terratec DMX 6Fire

(I realize you're not made up of money, but if you ever wanted to buy it but couldn't because you couldn't find a store in the USA, you can get it here: http://www.audiomidi.com/hardware/audio_pci.cfm (scroll to the bottom)

).

Oh yeah, it also has that VIA audio chip that you hadn't ever heard about

Necrosis · Jul 20, 2002, 04:46 PM

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Originally posted by dallasstar
You like trying stuff out huh? .... well, that GTXP'll be just the same as your santacruz.... (except it'll have a breakout box)

...did you ever consider the king of all soundcards? Terratec DMX 6Fire

(I realize you're not made up of money, but if you ever wanted to buy it but couldn't because you couldn't find a store in the USA, you can get it here: http://www.audiomidi.com/hardware/audio_pci.cfm (scroll to the bottom) ).

Oh yeah, it also has that VIA audio chip that you hadn't ever heard about

Yeah, I pretty much know what the Game Theater consists of. I just have never owned a Hercule's sound product so I want to try it out. I've thought about the Terratec; friend of mine has a PC with it in his home studio. I probably will buy one eventually, Musicians Friends also sells them too. The Cmedia is the Via chip, correct? If so I've never heard it referred to as being associated with Via.

Heck, I'm going to buy the 9700 when it is available. What is sad about that is I just bought my 4600 two weeks ago. Oh well...

Malus · Jul 20, 2002, 06:58 PM

Cmedia makes their own DSP's.

Wounded Paw · Jul 20, 2002, 09:56 PM

I'll say it again, use a gaming card for gaming, use a pro-audio card for serious audio work. Don't mix the two cuz the compromise will be apparent when you release a CD to the public.
Cheerz,
Wounded Paw

Necrosis · Jul 20, 2002, 10:41 PM

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Originally posted by Wounded Paw
I'll say it again, use a gaming card for gaming, use a pro-audio card for serious audio work. Don't mix the two cuz the compromise will be apparent when you release a CD to the public.
Cheerz,
Wounded Paw

I agree but it's what he's using right now to help him along. Heck, he's no where close to having anything permanent laid down yet.

Jul 11, 2002, 03:54 PM	#35
Cunnuk DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Manitoba, Canada Posts: 33 Rep Power: 0	Turtle Beach Santa Cruz Never had any problems with it. Unlike the SB cards I've used in he past AWE 64, LIve Value and the 5.1, I was never happy with them. SB might have been once a good. But since I went the Santa Cruz I've been one happy camper. __________________ There are 3 kinds of people in this world. Those that can count, and those that can't.

Jul 20, 2002, 04:58 AM	#36
Wounded Paw Crust-grind-punk bastard Join Date: May 2002 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 58 Rep Power: 0	A Sonic Fury is a Santa Cruz under a different name in Europe and I think that's what the other poster meant by Sonic Foundry (cuz that's an audio app company) My Santa Cruz has done great for me for gaming and pumping dolby digital out to my reciever for DVDs. It's CPU utilization is way smaller than anything by Creative. Hell Creative made different cards all based on the same crappy old audio chip for years and noone even batted an eyelash. And just do a quick scan of these forums or any other hardware forums to discover how many problems arise from Creative soundcards. The Audigy is no revolution in audio, it's just Creative finally buying something new. It's not Pro-Audio quality no matter what their press says and no one should be using it for audio production. You want pro-audio, go to M-Audio or something else that the professionals actually use. It doesn't have to cost a lot more. I'm happy to see a lot of people seem to have the right opinion of Creative especially the post about them killing the best 3-d audio company out there! My $.02. Cheerz, Wounded Paw P4 2.0A GHz, 512 MB PC2700 Asus P4B533, ATI Radeon 8500DV M-Audio Delta TDIF pro-audio, Santa Cruz game audio WD 120GB a/v drive, 30GB system drive Plextor 40/12/24 CDRW and a bunch of other stuff inboard and outboard __________________

Jul 20, 2002, 08:02 AM	#37
FuNsTeR Caledonian and Proud Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Darkest Ayrshire Posts: 1,304 Rep Power: 88 System Specs	if anyone wants my Videologic Sonicfury (Santa Cruz) their welcome to it soundblaster live player 5.1 is way better than that heap o shyte ..... it doesn't like Sonique the best mp3 player for sound and visuals .... winamp sux __________________ "They say when you play a Microsoft CD backwards you can hear satanic messages ..... but that's nothing, if you play it forward it will install Windows"

Jul 20, 2002, 08:29 AM	#38
Wholemeal Apollo DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 1 Rep Power: 0	Creative Cards I've got two cards: ess maestro 2em, and a crative extigy. Both work fine...

Jul 20, 2002, 10:22 AM	#40
FuNsTeR Caledonian and Proud Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Darkest Ayrshire Posts: 1,304 Rep Power: 88 System Specs	try installing sonique with Sonic fury card installed .... masses of errors win 98se is the worse errors im glad im back with 5.1 my old live value card also rocked .... i never had any probs with Creative sound cards .... Intel .... thats a different story __________________ "They say when you play a Microsoft CD backwards you can hear satanic messages ..... but that's nothing, if you play it forward it will install Windows"

Jul 11, 2002, 07:02 AM	#32
Olawy DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 3 Rep Power: 0	Genius SoundMaker Live 5.1 Basically fortemedia 801-AU based cheapo soundcard,what works fine enaugh.

Jul 20, 2002, 10:24 AM	#41
DallasStar Junior Join Date: May 2002 Location: Wave Existence Posts: 2,065 Rep Power: 0	And for anyone wondering, I will be recieving his sonic fury .... so don't bother askin!! Funster... you are a truly generous man. THANKYOU!! __________________ "A picture of my existence... would show a useless wooden stake covered in snow... stuck loosely at a slant in the ground in a ploughed field on the edge of a vast open plain on a dark winter night." --- Franz Kafka

Jul 20, 2002, 10:28 AM	#42
FuNsTeR Caledonian and Proud Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Darkest Ayrshire Posts: 1,304 Rep Power: 88 System Specs	no problem mate will send on monday its no use to me siting in my flat you'll need to download the Xp Drivers for it ... __________________ "They say when you play a Microsoft CD backwards you can hear satanic messages ..... but that's nothing, if you play it forward it will install Windows"

Jul 20, 2002, 06:58 PM	Thread Starter #47
Malus BSD SMASH! Join Date: May 2002 Location: A rabbit hole. . . Posts: 1,170 Rep Power: 0	Cmedia makes their own DSP's. __________________ quad (FreeBSD/amd64 8-CURRENT): Intel Q6600 - Asus P5E-VM HDMI - 2x2 GB Kingston PC6400 DDR2 Ram - Seagate 320GB 7200RPM HD - 2xSeagate 1TB 7200RPM HD in RAID 1 via ZFS - Lite-On 20x DVD Multi Recorder - Coolermaster Centurion 5 router (FreeBSD/amd64 8-CURRENT): Intel E4500 - Intel D945GCNL - 2 GB PC6400 Mushkin Ram - Lite-On 48x24x48x16 - Seagate 320GB 7200RPM HD - Silverstone SST-SG02-F wanderer (FreeBSD/i386 7-CURRENT): Lenovo Thinkpad T61p mini (OS X 10.5): Intel Core 2 Duo @ 1.8Ghz, 4 GB Mushkin PC5400 Ram - Headroom MicroDAC Portable sound: Rockboxed iPod Video -> Westone UM2's Not-So-Portable Sound: Headroon MicroDAC -> Singlepower PPX3-SLAM -> Grado RS-1's or Beyerdynamic DT-880's Very-Not-Portable-Sound: Squeezebox v3 -> Denon AVR-1507 -> B&W 683's & Sunfire HRS-10

Jul 20, 2002, 09:56 PM	#48
Wounded Paw Crust-grind-punk bastard Join Date: May 2002 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 58 Rep Power: 0	I'll say it again, use a gaming card for gaming, use a pro-audio card for serious audio work. Don't mix the two cuz the compromise will be apparent when you release a CD to the public. Cheerz, Wounded Paw __________________