My Audigy versus SantaCruz benchmarks

DallasStar · Aug 17, 2002, 05:34 PM

Although I like SantaCruz for music listening (frequency response), it looks like the Audigy has completely creamed it in every other field as far as these benchmarks are concerned (except in IMD %... whatever that means

)

Something that I've noticed:

look at the frequency response chart. You'll notice that the Audigy's line gets "wobbly" when it gets to the high frequencies while the SantaCruz's line stays constant. I'm guessing that this explains why the santacruz sounds "clearer" in high frequencies

. (also, the lower frequencies of the santacruz are curved downward somewhat which also explains some of the "clearness")

Something you should know before reading benchmarks:

The cable I used for loopback is thin and long, so don't expect these benchmarks to represent the true potential of these cards. HOWEVER, these benchmarks DO actually properly show the differences between these specific cards and which is better in which fields.

here are the links... enjoy

SantaCruz

Audigy:
http://users2.ev1.net/~dallasstar/be...[A800].htm

(thanks Funster1970 for *giving* me the SantaCruz)

Malus · Aug 17, 2002, 06:33 PM

Is it possible to download this benchie? Could you provide a link?

DallasStar · Aug 17, 2002, 06:50 PM

do you mean the benchmarking program? yes, it is downloadable. in order to run it, however, you have to have a cable for looping the line-out into the line-in (just letting you know). If you want completely accurate results, I recommend you have a good cable. the program can be found here: http://audio.rightmark.org/downloads/rmaa34.exe

iceboy · Aug 17, 2002, 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Furious
Why?

Really curious as I don't know what the differences would be.

i don't know about santa cruz but you can use EAX in EAX games with audigy.

Mr.Sneis · Aug 17, 2002, 07:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by dallasstar

The cable I used for loopback is thin and long, so don't expect these benchmarks to represent the true potential of these cards.

Why is it that reviewers always use this line?

DonnoD · Aug 17, 2002, 07:50 PM

I assume that you used the sound card's own line input to benchmark the sound. Has it occured to you that there could be differences in input quality (ADC etc.) just as there are differences in output quality?

These benchmarks might not represent the differences in output quality between these two sound cards.

DaSnIpE · Aug 17, 2002, 07:51 PM

So they don't look bad :P

dallas, I think I'm gonna run it, and I got a cable like that from my TV card, so I'll use that.

DallasStar · Aug 17, 2002, 07:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by DonnoD
I assume that you used the sound card's own line input to benchmark the sound. Has it occured to you that there could be differences in input quality (ADC etc.) just as there are differences in output quality?

These benchmarks might not represent the differences in output quality between these two sound cards.

you have got a point there..... i'll have to try benching the santacruz on the audigy's input when i get time

. (though i'm not expecting a huge difference in scores

)

DallasStar · Aug 17, 2002, 07:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mr.Sneis
Why is it that reviewers always use this line?

well, my reasons:

the cable is long: gives sound more time to lose its fidelity before going to input.

the cable is thin (and kinda crappy): use your common sense to figure this part out.

so... with a cable like that.... i can't expect to tap into the true potential of the cards

~~WyreTheWolf~~ · Aug 17, 2002, 08:25 PM

OK, I just spent about an hour running this benchmark, and tweaking all the settings on a Philips Acoustic Edge. I used a mini plug cable that is about .3 meters, or about a foot long.

Here are my results

Freq. response (40-15k)
-0.06, +0.03 dB
Excellent

Noise level (A)
-96.7 dB
Excellent

Dynamic range (A)
90.6 dB
Very good

THD
0.0177 %
Good

IMD+noise
1.077 %
Poor

Stereo crosstalk
-92.3 dB
Excellent

General performance
VERY GOOD

I would really like to know what this IMD+noise thingy is...
Other than that I think that the AE faired quite nicely.

BTW, I saved my results, and if any one would like to download them, and open the saved file on there own copy of RMAA 3.4

You can get it from here.

Any one else run this benchmark?

Necrosis · Aug 17, 2002, 08:32 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by dallasstar
If anyone can tell me what IMD% means, I'd really appreciate it!

Intermodulation Distortion Measurement

Ha, Rookies!

DallasStar · Aug 17, 2002, 09:13 PM

here are the charts etc for Phillips AE: http://users2.ev1.net/~dallasstar/be...ips-PSC706.htm ................... judging by that frequency response chart.... the Phillips AE should sound better than the Audigy and Santacruz (in music)..... (or at least that's what I think

)

note: the cable I used is around 1-1.5 meters long.... so wyre's results *should* be more accurate than mine (in favor of his soundcard)

~~WyreTheWolf~~ · Aug 17, 2002, 09:48 PM

I searched the forum of http://audio.rightmark.org and there is some kind of bug that misinterprets the IDM of the Audigy, I am guessing that it may be something of the same nature that is giving me the terrible readings in IMD. The location of the fix is right here. Maybe there is something in there that will fix the Philips bug.

Motoki · Aug 17, 2002, 10:10 PM

I like the way it sounds, I like having a daughterboard port to put my Yamaha DB50XG midi card in and yes, I'm biased in that I absolutely loathe Creative. As for actual real in game performance, I doubt you will notice all that much difference between two sound cards in terms of how fast and smooth the gameplay is. Certainly nothing like the difference between two different video cards. Still the numbers are interesting to see, if somewhat dissapointing as they make Creative look good in some areas (speed), but of course they also look not so good in the quality area, especially in the high ranges etc.

I'll stick with my Santa Cruz until something better comes out. Ever since Creative bought out Aureal and then sealed their technology away in mothballs, there's been little innovation in sound cards.

-MO

~~WyreTheWolf~~ · Aug 17, 2002, 10:33 PM

S/PDIF tests

cakecake · Aug 18, 2002, 12:17 AM

What about speaker crosstalk? For positional audio in games, the Audigy looks superior with its crosstalk reduction.

But I agree, Creative... tsk tsk, they should take after Maxtor and use the technology they acquire.

Doomtrooper · Aug 18, 2002, 12:37 AM

Actually the Santa Cruz has the same CPU util as the Audigy, using Ziff Davis Audio Winbench...at least from my findings. I also paid $45 for my Santa Cruz Canadian which is about 25 bucks US. Drivers have never give me a problem and the Audigy supports all EAX formats...and has something the Audigy doesn't..a hardware EQ.
I never will buy a Creative Sound Card again after the SBlive fiasco with KT133 boards, one of the main reasons why I switched. Never had a issue with Sound running a Santa Cruz, sounds great and cheap.
Lets not even talk about driver support and asking money for support from creative for classic live cards

and of course the Audigy is a Generation ahead of the Santa Cruz...see below for Hercules and Santa Cruz's answer to the Audigy.

If someone is looking for a really great soundcard Hercules just released this new soundcard which supports 2 - 8 speakersystems and is based on the Crystal CS4624 DSP. The card comes delivered with PowerDVD PRO EX, which supports Dolby Digital 5.1, Dolby Digital EX 6.1 and 7.1. For wavetable the card uses the S-YXG50 wavetable SoftSynthesizer from Yamaha.

Zardon · Aug 18, 2002, 12:58 AM

interesting reading.... id be interested to hear other people opinions on this, and other benches.

Necrosis · Aug 18, 2002, 02:52 AM

I've been very weary of how to reply to this thread for many different reasons.

The problem with this testing software that is it's so called "calibrated" by the user leaving a margin for error. Every system is different; everything from EMF, to back ground radio emissions to how close your microwave is can change the results of these tests. Nothing will replace true professionally calibrated equipment. Where I work at we do our own in house UL testing; a good THD meter costs around $800 - $2000. You need a controlled environment to do this kind of testing. Maybe the results are close to the true measurements of the cards. I take the results with a grain of sand; nor am I biased against any card/company that is "tested" with this software.

P.S. I seen Circuit City is now carrying the Santa Cruz. Stupid of them to drop the Philips line.

shuki · Aug 18, 2002, 04:28 AM

while I don't have other benches, I do have both TBSC and Audigy. I prefer the audigy over the TB any day. Just my $.02 though. And that's gaming not music.

Furious · Aug 18, 2002, 05:17 AM

I'm no audiophile so I'm not sure what most of that stuff means. Anything about CPU utilization during games, etc?

Furious · Aug 18, 2002, 05:20 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by shuki
while I don't have other benches, I do have both TBSC and Audigy. I prefer the audigy over the TB any day. Just my $.02 though. And that's gaming not music.

Why?

Really curious as I don't know what the differences would be.

~~WyreTheWolf~~ · Aug 18, 2002, 06:07 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Necrosis
I've been very weary of how to reply to this thread for many different reasons.

The problem with this testing software that is it's so called "calibrated" by the user leaving a margin for error. Every system is different; everything from EMF, to back ground radio emissions to how close your microwave is can change the results of these tests. Nothing will replace true professionally calibrated equipment. Where I work at we do our own in house UL testing; a good THD meter costs around $800 - $2000. You need a controlled environment to do this kind of testing. Maybe the results are close to the true measurements of the cards. I take the results with a grain of sand; nor am I biased against any card/company that is "tested" with this software.

P.S. I seen Circuit City is now carrying the Santa Cruz. Stupid of them to drop the Philips line.

I agree with you on this Necrosis. It is hard to test different sound cards on different systems, and get an acurate reading. With everything that is different between my system, and everyone elses sytems.

I also agree with that Circuit City is about retarded for dropping the Philips line of cards. I paid $50 for my AE, and have really enjoyed the premium sound. After all, I have always been a huge fan of the whole "Bang for the Buck" thingy.

Only time will tell if the Philips line of cards are going to be able to penetrate the market. There is almost no advertising for them, and Philips really has not pushed the envelope with this line of cards.

Even though compairing cards across platforms is not highly acurate. These benchmarks will however give a nice accounting of what these cards are capable of. (milage may vary)

The Philips held its own, showing that it is a highly capable card.

This is just my humble opinion.

DallasStar · Aug 18, 2002, 06:32 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Furious
I'm no audiophile so I'm not sure what most of that stuff means. Anything about CPU utilization during games, etc?

Audigy has less cpu utilization during games than other cards. I don't have benchies on that, but its common knowledge

DallasStar · Aug 18, 2002, 06:36 AM

If anyone can tell me what IMD% means, I'd really appreciate it!

Necrosis · Aug 18, 2002, 08:21 AM

WyreTheWolf wrote:

Quote:

I also agree with that Circuit City is about retarded for dropping the Philips line of cards. I paid $50 for my AE, and have really enjoyed the premium sound. After all, I have always been a huge fan of the whole "Bang for the Buck" thingy.

Only time will tell if the Philips line of cards are going to be able to penetrate the market. There is almost no advertising for them, and Philips really has not pushed the envelope with this line of cards.

I am really surprised they have not advertised these cards. How many Philips/Maganox commercials have you see on Television? Philips could really do some damage by doing a few adds in magazines plus TV.

~~WyreTheWolf~~ · Aug 18, 2002, 08:37 AM

That is exactly how I feel about it. One thing that I know for a fact, I would be hard pressed to find a sound card with all the features of the AE, at the price that I paid. Only time will tell... BTW, I noticed on the Philips website, that they are launching a new sound card, no nick name as of yet, it is just called the PCS708, the AE is called the PCS706.

shuki · Aug 18, 2002, 10:35 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Furious
Why?

Really curious as I don't know what the differences would be.

well for me it was just surround sound. Maybe it was audigy EAX but for the life of me I just could not get good positional 3d sound out of my TBSC....

Bambers · Aug 18, 2002, 03:22 PM

I tested my SBlive 5.1 and got this

I used a 2m cable that came with my speaker set (DDT2200) and how the cable was laid out during the tests did make a slight difference.

It would be interesting to see the freqency responce test for the audigy without the feedback from the EAX set up wrongly.

Clemento · Aug 18, 2002, 09:28 PM

What does that mean?
SB Audigy Audio [A800] but mine seems to be SB Audigy Audio [B400]
is it possiable??

Aug 17, 2002, 05:34 PM	#1
DallasStar Junior Join Date: May 2002 Location: Wave Existence Posts: 2,065 Rep Power: 0	My Audigy versus SantaCruz benchmarks Although I like SantaCruz for music listening (frequency response), it looks like the Audigy has completely creamed it in every other field as far as these benchmarks are concerned (except in IMD %... whatever that means ) Something that I've noticed: look at the frequency response chart. You'll notice that the Audigy's line gets "wobbly" when it gets to the high frequencies while the SantaCruz's line stays constant. I'm guessing that this explains why the santacruz sounds "clearer" in high frequencies . (also, the lower frequencies of the santacruz are curved downward somewhat which also explains some of the "clearness") Something you should know before reading benchmarks: The cable I used for loopback is thin and long, so don't expect these benchmarks to represent the true potential of these cards. HOWEVER, these benchmarks DO actually properly show the differences between these specific cards and which is better in which fields. here are the links... enjoy SantaCruz Audigy: http://users2.ev1.net/~dallasstar/be...[A800].htm (thanks Funster1970 for giving me the SantaCruz) __________________ "A picture of my existence... would show a useless wooden stake covered in snow... stuck loosely at a slant in the ground in a ploughed field on the edge of a vast open plain on a dark winter night." --- Franz Kafka

Aug 17, 2002, 06:33 PM	#2
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Aug 17, 2002, 06:50 PM	#3
DallasStar Junior Join Date: May 2002 Location: Wave Existence Posts: 2,065 Rep Power: 0	do you mean the benchmarking program? yes, it is downloadable. in order to run it, however, you have to have a cable for looping the line-out into the line-in (just letting you know). If you want completely accurate results, I recommend you have a good cable. the program can be found here: http://audio.rightmark.org/downloads/rmaa34.exe __________________ "A picture of my existence... would show a useless wooden stake covered in snow... stuck loosely at a slant in the ground in a ploughed field on the edge of a vast open plain on a dark winter night." --- Franz Kafka

Aug 17, 2002, 07:51 PM	#7
DaSnIpE Driverage Snipe Join Date: May 2002 Location: Montreal, Canada or NYC, USA Posts: 372 Rep Power: 0	So they don't look bad :P dallas, I think I'm gonna run it, and I got a cable like that from my TV card, so I'll use that. __________________ Antec SX1030 Case - Enermax 431 W Whisper PS - 4 Case Fans -ThermalRight AX-7 With Panaflo Ultra Fan - Sb Audigy / Logitech Z-560 Speakers / Sennheiser HD497 Headphones WD 80GB 7200 rpm HD - Samsung SyncMaster 955DF - LG 16x10x40x Burner / Pionner 16x Slot DVD View my rig http://nl.dodhq.net/Rig/

Aug 17, 2002, 09:13 PM	#12
DallasStar Junior Join Date: May 2002 Location: Wave Existence Posts: 2,065 Rep Power: 0	here are the charts etc for Phillips AE: http://users2.ev1.net/~dallasstar/be...ips-PSC706.htm ................... judging by that frequency response chart.... the Phillips AE should sound better than the Audigy and Santacruz (in music)..... (or at least that's what I think ) note: the cable I used is around 1-1.5 meters long.... so wyre's results should be more accurate than mine (in favor of his soundcard) __________________ "A picture of my existence... would show a useless wooden stake covered in snow... stuck loosely at a slant in the ground in a ploughed field on the edge of a vast open plain on a dark winter night." --- Franz Kafka

Aug 17, 2002, 07:50 PM	#6
DonnoD DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 41 Rep Power: 0	I assume that you used the sound card's own line input to benchmark the sound. Has it occured to you that there could be differences in input quality (ADC etc.) just as there are differences in output quality? These benchmarks might not represent the differences in output quality between these two sound cards.

Aug 17, 2002, 08:25 PM	#10
~~WyreTheWolf~~ Wolfish Bastard Join Date: May 2002 Location: Cave; Ozark Mountains Posts: 2,111 Rep Power: 0	OK, I just spent about an hour running this benchmark, and tweaking all the settings on a Philips Acoustic Edge. I used a mini plug cable that is about .3 meters, or about a foot long. Here are my results Freq. response (40-15k) -0.06, +0.03 dB Excellent Noise level (A) -96.7 dB Excellent Dynamic range (A) 90.6 dB Very good THD 0.0177 % Good IMD+noise 1.077 % Poor Stereo crosstalk -92.3 dB Excellent General performance VERY GOOD I would really like to know what this IMD+noise thingy is... Other than that I think that the AE faired quite nicely. BTW, I saved my results, and if any one would like to download them, and open the saved file on there own copy of RMAA 3.4 You can get it from here. Any one else run this benchmark?

Aug 17, 2002, 09:48 PM	#13
~~WyreTheWolf~~ Wolfish Bastard Join Date: May 2002 Location: Cave; Ozark Mountains Posts: 2,111 Rep Power: 0	I searched the forum of http://audio.rightmark.org and there is some kind of bug that misinterprets the IDM of the Audigy, I am guessing that it may be something of the same nature that is giving me the terrible readings in IMD. The location of the fix is right here. Maybe there is something in there that will fix the Philips bug.

Aug 17, 2002, 10:10 PM	#14
Motoki DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 51 Rep Power: 0	I still prefer my Santa Cruz I like the way it sounds, I like having a daughterboard port to put my Yamaha DB50XG midi card in and yes, I'm biased in that I absolutely loathe Creative. As for actual real in game performance, I doubt you will notice all that much difference between two sound cards in terms of how fast and smooth the gameplay is. Certainly nothing like the difference between two different video cards. Still the numbers are interesting to see, if somewhat dissapointing as they make Creative look good in some areas (speed), but of course they also look not so good in the quality area, especially in the high ranges etc. I'll stick with my Santa Cruz until something better comes out. Ever since Creative bought out Aureal and then sealed their technology away in mothballs, there's been little innovation in sound cards. -MO

Aug 17, 2002, 10:33 PM	#15
~~WyreTheWolf~~ Wolfish Bastard Join Date: May 2002 Location: Cave; Ozark Mountains Posts: 2,111 Rep Power: 0	S/PDIF tests

Aug 18, 2002, 12:17 AM	#16
cakecake DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 5 Rep Power: 0	Santa Cruz looks good What about speaker crosstalk? For positional audio in games, the Audigy looks superior with its crosstalk reduction. But I agree, Creative... tsk tsk, they should take after Maxtor and use the technology they acquire.

Aug 18, 2002, 12:37 AM	#17
Doomtrooper Driverheaven Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Great White North Posts: 206 Rep Power: 0	Actually the Santa Cruz has the same CPU util as the Audigy, using Ziff Davis Audio Winbench...at least from my findings. I also paid $45 for my Santa Cruz Canadian which is about 25 bucks US. Drivers have never give me a problem and the Audigy supports all EAX formats...and has something the Audigy doesn't..a hardware EQ. I never will buy a Creative Sound Card again after the SBlive fiasco with KT133 boards, one of the main reasons why I switched. Never had a issue with Sound running a Santa Cruz, sounds great and cheap. Lets not even talk about driver support and asking money for support from creative for classic live cards and of course the Audigy is a Generation ahead of the Santa Cruz...see below for Hercules and Santa Cruz's answer to the Audigy. If someone is looking for a really great soundcard Hercules just released this new soundcard which supports 2 - 8 speakersystems and is based on the Crystal CS4624 DSP. The card comes delivered with PowerDVD PRO EX, which supports Dolby Digital 5.1, Dolby Digital EX 6.1 and 7.1. For wavetable the card uses the S-YXG50 wavetable SoftSynthesizer from Yamaha. __________________ "It's time to kick A$$ and chew bubble gum....and I'm all out of gum." Duke Nukem November 1996

Aug 18, 2002, 12:58 AM	#18
Zardon DriverHeaven Founder Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 32,481 Rep Power: 162	interesting reading.... id be interested to hear other people opinions on this, and other benches.

Aug 18, 2002, 02:52 AM	#19
Necrosis HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Ohio Posts: 8,585 Rep Power: 75 System Specs	I've been very weary of how to reply to this thread for many different reasons. The problem with this testing software that is it's so called "calibrated" by the user leaving a margin for error. Every system is different; everything from EMF, to back ground radio emissions to how close your microwave is can change the results of these tests. Nothing will replace true professionally calibrated equipment. Where I work at we do our own in house UL testing; a good THD meter costs around $800 - $2000. You need a controlled environment to do this kind of testing. Maybe the results are close to the true measurements of the cards. I take the results with a grain of sand; nor am I biased against any card/company that is "tested" with this software. P.S. I seen Circuit City is now carrying the Santa Cruz. Stupid of them to drop the Philips line.

Aug 18, 2002, 04:28 AM	#20
shuki DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: in the hidden place Posts: 1,975 Rep Power: 0	while I don't have other benches, I do have both TBSC and Audigy. I prefer the audigy over the TB any day. Just my $.02 though. And that's gaming not music.

Aug 18, 2002, 05:17 AM	#21
Furious I'm blind not deaf!! Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 260 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	I'm no audiophile so I'm not sure what most of that stuff means. Anything about CPU utilization during games, etc? __________________

Aug 18, 2002, 06:36 AM	#25
DallasStar Junior Join Date: May 2002 Location: Wave Existence Posts: 2,065 Rep Power: 0	If anyone can tell me what IMD% means, I'd really appreciate it! __________________ "A picture of my existence... would show a useless wooden stake covered in snow... stuck loosely at a slant in the ground in a ploughed field on the edge of a vast open plain on a dark winter night." --- Franz Kafka

Aug 18, 2002, 08:37 AM	#27
~~WyreTheWolf~~ Wolfish Bastard Join Date: May 2002 Location: Cave; Ozark Mountains Posts: 2,111 Rep Power: 0	That is exactly how I feel about it. One thing that I know for a fact, I would be hard pressed to find a sound card with all the features of the AE, at the price that I paid. Only time will tell... BTW, I noticed on the Philips website, that they are launching a new sound card, no nick name as of yet, it is just called the PCS708, the AE is called the PCS706.

Aug 18, 2002, 03:22 PM	#29
Bambers DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Bristol, UK Posts: 25 Rep Power: 0	I tested my SBlive 5.1 and got this I used a 2m cable that came with my speaker set (DDT2200) and how the cable was laid out during the tests did make a slight difference. It would be interesting to see the freqency responce test for the audigy without the feedback from the EAX set up wrongly.

Aug 18, 2002, 09:28 PM	#30
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