Creative Audigy 2 AD_EXT pin assignment

vassil_bk · Jul 22, 2004, 12:43 PM

Does anyone know the pin assignment for Creative Audigy or Audigy 2? I want to connect my Front Panel headphones and mic jack. And not only these. I tried to guess some of the pins but it did't work out.

**dj_stick** · Jul 22, 2004, 12:57 PM

yes this has been worked out now (by a group of hardworking people in the kX forum here)

Genius · Jul 22, 2004, 02:56 PM

This is great news. Maybe now I can actually get digital out on this thing. Creative rules the sound industry with an iron fist... they don't even sell an add in board of any type for the audigy 2. They figure if someone wants it bad enough they'll go out and buy another card. Pff.

So now that we have this, can someone help with a little guide on getting digital out? I assume I would connect pins 25 and 35 to fake the live drive (using a homemade cable I'll be starting on shortly). How do I go about the cable for the actual digital out for pin 9 (it is spdif0 i would use correct)?

tutu · Jul 22, 2004, 04:22 PM

My Case is the CoolerMaster Praetorian - which has front mic and headphone sockets. It has the following connectors:

MIN_IN, MIC_PWR, GROUND

L-OUT, R-OUT, L-RET, R-RET.

So how do I go about connecting the MIC? Also, what about the smaller white ish area.. I thought that is where you plug these in!

germanjulian · Jul 22, 2004, 04:26 PM

this could come in handy one day. great find

Candyman · Jul 22, 2004, 05:16 PM

I have the add-on board from my SB-LIVE card and connected it to the Audigy2 card and it works fine.

Genius · Jul 22, 2004, 05:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Candyman
I have the add-on board from my SB-LIVE card and connected it to the Audigy2 card and it works fine.

Seriously? I have my old I/O front panel but I was under the impression the pinout had changed so I never bothered to try it. That would explain why Creative didn't want to publish the datasheet for this. Less money for them.

Genius · Jul 22, 2004, 05:50 PM

I guess it doesn't matter as I've been doing some reading I never bothered to do before. The Sound Blaster cards are only useful with multi speaker setups when you're using the analog connections. The only time the spdif is useful is for DVD playback (or other AC3). I have a SoundStorm onboard which I use for that. I wish Nvidia would get into the sound card business. They'd give Creative one hell of a run.

digitalwanderer · Jul 22, 2004, 06:32 PM

Nice job, thanks for this information!

drakesteakn · Jul 22, 2004, 07:58 PM

great work guys.

HecHacker1 · Jul 22, 2004, 10:28 PM

ok, so can anybody help me with how i should connect the front panel headphone jack to the audigy 2. I see that the mic port is clearly marked. but the audio out is more cryptic (if there is one?).

**dj_stick** · Jul 22, 2004, 10:48 PM

IMPORTANT
for those who want to put analog inputs and outputs on the audigy 2, such as mic and headphones, you MUST build a seperate hardware converter - these are all digital inputs and outputs on the AD_EXT (AUD_EXT for live! and audigy 1 for that matter aswell)
the electronics section at Travelrec's website should help you if you want to buils these converters

roadrun7 · Jul 22, 2004, 11:37 PM

Can you post a diagram of the Audigy 1 EXT pins?

Or possibly post a link to a diagram or jpg?

I have been wanting to use the spdif in on those pins, as my internal dvd player has 2 pin spdif digital out that I have neglected to use.

Would be nice to see how much better it sounds using the spdif in.

I take it there wouldn't need to be any sort of conversion?

**dj_stick** · Jul 23, 2004, 01:09 AM

other creative soundcard header pinouts
the AUD_EXT has 2 spdif ins and they work fine with internal optical devices

vassil_bk · Jul 23, 2004, 09:05 AM

Many thanks to you all one more time! I hope now I can manage to connect my front panel.

**dj_stick** · Jul 23, 2004, 01:31 PM

one thing i have noticed - they give is one less s/pdif input that the AUD_EXT connector… now that is crap

Samir · Jul 23, 2004, 08:29 PM

[color=crimson]To all people who wants to connect anything to Audigy2 AD_EXT:[/color]
Please post some feedback & experiences, especially if you are trying to connect old LiveDrive, AudigyDrive or IR drive to Audigy2 card series... Since we discovered actual pinouts, we don't have appropriate 'drives' for proper testing...

Thank you!

**dj_stick** · Jul 25, 2004, 02:35 AM

i'm going to make this a "sticky" thread for future reference

Josh_Hayes · Jul 25, 2004, 07:16 AM

Any chance you guys could find the pin-out for the white connector on most OEM Sound Cards including the Audigy? These should include an analog output AFAIK. I have been using this OEM port along with a proprietary cable and front I/O panel from a Dell optiplex to get front panel audio on my machine for about a year now. I'd love to be able to bypass the I/O module and plug directly into the front audio ports on newer cases.

Thanks,

-Josh

**dj_stick** · Jul 25, 2004, 07:17 AM

unfortunately afaik there are no analog connectors on these cards… unless someone knows different

Josh_Hayes · Jul 25, 2004, 08:08 AM

This is the OEM connector I am referring to on the Audigy 2 OEM

This is a pic of my modded front panel

This is the I/O board I ordered from Dell

Another pic of the board showing the connectors

I mounted the board to the rear of this panel and made a hole just big enough for the audio port

**dj_stick** · Jul 25, 2004, 08:57 AM

hmm i thought that was internal firewire…
afaik a2 cards never had an analogue header, i guess i was wrong
EDIT: the module may have a DAC inbuilt…
in the creative driver folder - look in the help folder for a file called hwinfo.hlp

Samir · Jul 26, 2004, 12:49 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Josh_Hayes
Any chance you guys could find the pin-out for the white connector on most OEM Sound Cards including the Audigy? These should include an analog output AFAIK. I have been using this OEM port along with a proprietary cable and front I/O panel from a Dell optiplex to get front panel audio on my machine for about a year now. I'd love to be able to bypass the I/O module and plug directly into the front audio ports on newer cases.

Thanks,

-Josh

Audigy2 OEM model you said? I taught I have Audigy2 OEM model, and it looks like this:

Jebo ih ja! Picture shows exact place where white (J1) connector should be! Damn, it doesn't have J1 connector at all!

And your SB0240 semms to have J1 connector! Audigy2 ZS (SB0350) also has this thing. People, Creative really sucks!

All I know about J1 connector is that pin 10 goes to pin 36 @ AD_EXT, and pin 3 goes to pin 151 @ 10K2 chip (this could be SPDIF input related). Maybe i could trace all pins so we could find out what are rest of them...
Josh_Hayes, could you specify EXACT pins that leads from J1 to I/O panel from a Dell?

Thank you!

Josh_Hayes · Jul 26, 2004, 01:23 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Samir
Audigy2 OEM model you said? I taught I have Audigy2 OEM model, and it looks like this:

Jebo ih ja! Picture shows exact place where white (J1) connector should be! Damn, it doesn't have J1 connector at all!

And your SB0240 semms to have J1 connector! Audigy2 ZS (SB0350) also has this thing. People, Creative really sucks!
All I know about J1 connector is that pin 10 goes to pin 36 @ AD_EXT, and pin 3 goes to pin 151 @ 10K2 chip (this could be SPDIF input related). Maybe i could trace all pins so we could find out what are rest of them...
Josh_Hayes, could you specify EXACT pins that leads from J1 to I/O panel from a Dell?

Thank you!

I'm not exactly sure what you want me to do... You want to know what color wire comes off J1? All the pins have leads going to I/O Panel via the OEM Cable.

**dj_stick** · Jul 26, 2004, 04:28 AM

try to trace the wires on the PCB to the 3.5mm jack

PhilA · Jul 26, 2004, 07:33 AM

> I have the add-on board from my SB-LIVE card and connected it to the Audigy2 card and it works fine.

Does anyone know the model number of the SB-LIVE card mentioned here or anything else we might use to connect front panel audio/MIC to the audigy2??

Thanks.

Phil

**dj_stick** · Jul 26, 2004, 11:06 AM

it would either be the live! drive (CT4861/SB0010) or a digital daughter card (CT4710/CT4770)

and the pinouts for the AUD_EXT connector used for that is here

PhilA · Jul 26, 2004, 01:36 PM

I had a look at the CT4710 Optical Digital I/O Board you mentioned. I could not find the CT4861 at all. The CT470 does not look like I will be able to connect my front panel audio/MIC to it?

Candyman posted: "I have the add-on board from my SB-LIVE card and connected it to the Audigy2 card and it works fine".

I want to be able to connect my front panel easily to my Audigy2 with a simple add-on card or something. Someone must be doing this like Candyman.

**dj_stick** · Jul 26, 2004, 01:38 PM

ok it seems if you have the white J1 connector you can do this - if not, you need to build a DAC module

PhilA · Jul 26, 2004, 01:48 PM

Sorry to be a pain, I really am a newbie when it comes to audio. Are you saying if I have the white J1 connector on my audigy2 I can plug the wires direct to this, after working out which pins on the J1 to use?

Don't think I have it anyway, don't remember seeing it.

So now I have to build a DAC module add-on card? Does the DAC convert the analog inputs from my case to digital for the card? Can I buy one from somewhere?

Thanks again.
Phil

Jul 22, 2004, 12:43 PM	#1
vassil_bk DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 2 Rep Power: 0	Creative Audigy 2 AD_EXT pin assignment Does anyone know the pin assignment for Creative Audigy or Audigy 2? I want to connect my Front Panel headphones and mic jack. And not only these. I tried to guess some of the pins but it did't work out. Last edited by dj_stick; Jul 25, 2004 at 03:31 AM.

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Genius ID10T Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Midland, MI Posts: 146 Rep Power: 0	This is great news. Maybe now I can actually get digital out on this thing. Creative rules the sound industry with an iron fist... they don't even sell an add in board of any type for the audigy 2. They figure if someone wants it bad enough they'll go out and buy another card. Pff. So now that we have this, can someone help with a little guide on getting digital out? I assume I would connect pins 25 and 35 to fake the live drive (using a homemade cable I'll be starting on shortly). How do I go about the cable for the actual digital out for pin 9 (it is spdif0 i would use correct)? __________________ [color=White]Abit NF7-S v.2.0 1.5gb ram at 10-3-3-2.5 AMB Barton 2500+ @2215MHz (211x10.5) Dual WD800JB (Raid 0) / WD1600JB / WD800BB Sound Blaster Audigy 2 Logitech Z-680 5.1 speakers Radeon 9800 Pro Sony G420 19"[/color]

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Genius ID10T Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Midland, MI Posts: 146 Rep Power: 0	I guess it doesn't matter as I've been doing some reading I never bothered to do before. The Sound Blaster cards are only useful with multi speaker setups when you're using the analog connections. The only time the spdif is useful is for DVD playback (or other AC3). I have a SoundStorm onboard which I use for that. I wish Nvidia would get into the sound card business. They'd give Creative one hell of a run. __________________ [color=White]Abit NF7-S v.2.0 1.5gb ram at 10-3-3-2.5 AMB Barton 2500+ @2215MHz (211x10.5) Dual WD800JB (Raid 0) / WD1600JB / WD800BB Sound Blaster Audigy 2 Logitech Z-680 5.1 speakers Radeon 9800 Pro Sony G420 19"[/color]

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tutu DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 1 Rep Power: 0	My Case is the CoolerMaster Praetorian - which has front mic and headphone sockets. It has the following connectors: MIN_IN, MIC_PWR, GROUND L-OUT, R-OUT, L-RET, R-RET. So how do I go about connecting the MIC? Also, what about the smaller white ish area.. I thought that is where you plug these in!

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HecHacker1 DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 10 Rep Power: 0	ok, so can anybody help me with how i should connect the front panel headphone jack to the audigy 2. I see that the mic port is clearly marked. but the audio out is more cryptic (if there is one?).

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roadrun7 DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 2 Rep Power: 0	Can you post a diagram of the Audigy 1 EXT pins? Or possibly post a link to a diagram or jpg? I have been wanting to use the spdif in on those pins, as my internal dvd player has 2 pin spdif digital out that I have neglected to use. Would be nice to see how much better it sounds using the spdif in. I take it there wouldn't need to be any sort of conversion?

Jul 23, 2004, 09:05 AM	#15
vassil_bk DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 2 Rep Power: 0	Thank you very much my friends!!! Many thanks to you all one more time! I hope now I can manage to connect my front panel.

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Samir kX Lover Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 522 Rep Power: 0	[color=crimson]To all people who wants to connect anything to Audigy2 AD_EXT:[/color] Please post some feedback & experiences, especially if you are trying to connect old LiveDrive, AudigyDrive or IR drive to Audigy2 card series... Since we discovered actual pinouts, we don't have appropriate 'drives' for proper testing... Thank you! __________________ MU3NKA 3A HAPO6! Last edited by Samir; Oct 28, 2004 at 12:50 AM.

Jul 25, 2004, 07:16 AM	#19
Josh_Hayes DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Round Rock, TX Posts: 6 Rep Power: 0	Any chance you guys could find the pin-out for the white connector on most OEM Sound Cards including the Audigy? These should include an analog output AFAIK. I have been using this OEM port along with a proprietary cable and front I/O panel from a Dell optiplex to get front panel audio on my machine for about a year now. I'd love to be able to bypass the I/O module and plug directly into the front audio ports on newer cases. Thanks, -Josh __________________ Intel D850EMVRL Motherboard \| Intel 3.06GHz P4 w/ HT Enabled \| Alpha PAL8942 HSF \| 2 x 256MB PC1066 ECC RDRAM \| 18GB Seagate Cheetah X15-36LP \| 120GB IBM 180GXP \| Creative Audigy 2 Sound Card \| Antec SX800 Case \| PC Power and Cooling Silencer 400 ATX PSU \| 21" Hitachi CM828B CRT Monitor

Jul 25, 2004, 08:08 AM	#21
Josh_Hayes DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Round Rock, TX Posts: 6 Rep Power: 0	This is the OEM connector I am referring to on the Audigy 2 OEM This is a pic of my modded front panel This is the I/O board I ordered from Dell Another pic of the board showing the connectors I mounted the board to the rear of this panel and made a hole just big enough for the audio port __________________ Intel D850EMVRL Motherboard \| Intel 3.06GHz P4 w/ HT Enabled \| Alpha PAL8942 HSF \| 2 x 256MB PC1066 ECC RDRAM \| 18GB Seagate Cheetah X15-36LP \| 120GB IBM 180GXP \| Creative Audigy 2 Sound Card \| Antec SX800 Case \| PC Power and Cooling Silencer 400 ATX PSU \| 21" Hitachi CM828B CRT Monitor Last edited by Josh_Hayes; Jul 25, 2004 at 08:19 AM.

Jul 26, 2004, 07:33 AM	#26
PhilA DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 4 Rep Power: 0	> I have the add-on board from my SB-LIVE card and connected it to the Audigy2 card and it works fine. Does anyone know the model number of the SB-LIVE card mentioned here or anything else we might use to connect front panel audio/MIC to the audigy2?? Thanks. Phil

Jul 26, 2004, 01:36 PM	#28
PhilA DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 4 Rep Power: 0	I had a look at the CT4710 Optical Digital I/O Board you mentioned. I could not find the CT4861 at all. The CT470 does not look like I will be able to connect my front panel audio/MIC to it? Candyman posted: "I have the add-on board from my SB-LIVE card and connected it to the Audigy2 card and it works fine". I want to be able to connect my front panel easily to my Audigy2 with a simple add-on card or something. Someone must be doing this like Candyman.

Jul 26, 2004, 01:48 PM	#30
PhilA DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 4 Rep Power: 0	Sorry to be a pain, I really am a newbie when it comes to audio. Are you saying if I have the white J1 connector on my audigy2 I can plug the wires direct to this, after working out which pins on the J1 to use? Don't think I have it anyway, don't remember seeing it. So now I have to build a DAC module add-on card? Does the DAC convert the analog inputs from my case to digital for the card? Can I buy one from somewhere? Thanks again. Phil