Logitech Z-680 Preview....

Necrosis · Sep 20, 2002, 12:48 PM

Get the low down...IGN Gear.com: Logitech Z-680 Preview

DallasStar · Sep 20, 2002, 11:58 PM

e-Seeker · Sep 23, 2002, 07:15 PM

Absolutely interesting!

UDPride · Nov 4, 2002, 06:50 AM

I was leaning toward the Klipsch 5.1 for my Voodoo, but I think Im going to go with these 680s. Cheaper, as much power, THX/DTS etc. Looks like more for less. Been checking the e-commerce sites every day but no one has them in stock yet. I love Klipsch, and some of Logitech stuff is downright mediocre, but their high-end speaker setups have been notoriously well respected for a while. Maybe they need to concentrate on it and give up the mouse/keyboard department. Wait, I also own a Logitech mouse/keyboard. Forget that!

e-Seeker · Nov 4, 2002, 07:09 AM

Read a bit more: http://www.thx.com/press/2002/logitech_speakers.html

Xploited Titan · Nov 4, 2002, 06:03 PM

You seem to forget that there's THX and THX...........

The Logitech THX speakers aren't as good as real THX Home Cinema (Hi-Fi) speakers from professional brands.....

They are relatively linear at high volumes and are capable of giving a good quality on the whole spectrum (ca. 20 Hz - 20 kHz)........

Real THX speakers need to answer to strictlier demands........

But for a computer it is the max and it's rather cheap...

Anyone wanna buy my Yamaha 2.1 speakers

Necrosis · Nov 4, 2002, 09:43 PM

Does anyone know the asking price for these or when they will be released?

UDPride · Nov 4, 2002, 10:43 PM

I saw around $290 or so from Computers4Sure or one of those outfits (before shipping). Every place Ive checked so far as "0" in stock so they may still be waiting on their first batch.

Necrosis · Nov 4, 2002, 10:45 PM

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Originally posted by UDPride
I saw around $290 or so from Computers4Sure or one of those outfits (before shipping). Every place Ive checked so far as "0" in stock so they may still be waiting on their first batch.

Your kidding!! That cheap??? What???? Damn guess I will be picking me up some; I'll put the Klipsch on my laptop.

DallasStar · Nov 4, 2002, 10:56 PM

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Originally posted by Necrosis
I'll put the Klipsch on my laptop.

UDPride · Nov 5, 2002, 07:29 AM

That was pretty much my opinion. I dont see how the Klipsch are worth $100+ more at this point. Great speakers no doubt but I think Logitech may have undercut them too much for even Klipsch to counter. I was leaning toward the Klipsch but will now wait until the z680s are available.

reno · Nov 5, 2002, 05:25 PM

Damn...and I bought my z560s like 5 months ago... *pout*

DallasStar · Nov 5, 2002, 07:01 PM

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Originally posted by UDPride
That was pretty much my opinion. I dont see how the Klipsch are worth $100+ more at this point. Great speakers no doubt but I think Logitech may have undercut them too much for even Klipsch to counter. I was leaning toward the Klipsch but will now wait until the z680s are available.

you do realize that Klipsch speakers cost just as much to manufacture as the Logitechs do, right? they can just lower prices.

UDPride · Nov 6, 2002, 04:12 AM

What Klipsch can do and what Klipsch will do are two entirely different variables. Klipsch knows they are perceived as upscale. Just like Sony will never reduce prices to compete with HP on a consistent basis, the only thing that will get Klipsch to drop $100+ off thier 5.1s as soon as the Logitechs come out is a change in corporate philosophy. In other words, Fuggedaboudit. They sell less but their margins are higher. Similar to Porsche. Porsche is the most profitable car company in the world, yet sells so few. Decent marketing, a strong loyal upscale clientele and a decent product does wonders. But you wont see Porsche competing against the PT Cruiser any time soon either.

Necrosis · Nov 6, 2002, 10:44 AM

Besides something I have forgot about; for around $180.00 I could have speakers as good as or better than the new Logitechs.

This versatile audio surround sound system digital decoder/preamplifier is precisely crafted to bring you the most advanced surround modes including DTS, Dolby Digital & Dolby Pro Logic.

This system will reproduce six discrete channels of encoded sound tracks with true fidelity and sonic excellence. The ProMedia DD-5.1 automatically detects the type of signal present at each input and decodes it based on the original encoded software.

* The ProMedia DD-5.1 allows you to connect virtually any audio input sources such as:
o Game Consoles with Digital Connectivity (With Toslink optical cable or RCA S/P-DIF) XBox, PlayStation 2
o Computer Soundcards with Digital Connectivity (S/P DIF; RCA or Toslink jack)
o DVD Players, LD Player, CD Player with Digital Connectivity (S/P DIF; RCA or Toslink jack)
o Analog 2-channel (stereo RCA) sources such as TV, VCR, CD Player
o 2-channel Miniplug Sources will need an adapter to RCA plugs. (PC soundcards, laptops, or analog 2-channel Game Consoles: Nintendo, Sony PlayStation)
* This unit includes Bass Management, but the optimum mode is to set all channels to Large Mode (RED LED) so the ProMedia system can accurately channel the bass information to the subwoofer.
* 2-channel, 4-channel, and 5.1-channel modes for your specific ProMedia system. This is especially helpful to allow digital connectivity to all of our products. It is up to the user to decide the facility for a ProMedia 2.1 application, but the 4.1 and 5.1 benefit significantly with this unit.
* This unit includes Five Channel Equalization for fine tuning the frequency curve of your system
* Convenient Wireless Remote Control

DallasStar · Nov 6, 2002, 01:45 PM

Another good option for just 130 bucks:

http://www.midiland.com/proddetail.a...r=60&category=

I like midiland's speakers and decoders.

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Descriptions
The ADS 4000 is surely among the most valued-added and versatile Audio Digital Decoder / Remote Control Station that you can ever find in the entire home audio or PC entertainment industry for its price tag.

Fully loaded with DTS, Dolby Digital (AC-3), Dolby ProLogic and Dolby 3 Stereo surround sound capabilities and the compatibility with most 5.1, 4.1, and 2.1 multi-channel speaker systems, the new ADS 4000 delivers the unmatched digital decoding power, versatility and flexibility to the hands of users. Should they be digital or analog sound signals from your selected devices, the ADS 4000 will take them all and translate into surreal multi-channel surround sounds with impact and effects powered by technologies such as DTS, AC-3, or EAX.

The convenient InfraRed remote control provides a quick and easy access to the full function controls of the ADS 4000 station. Allowing independent control of each speaker channel, you can easily adjust any particular speaker's setting and volume from a distance. Nonetheless, 3 preset listening modes are specially designed to take just normal stereo sounds into different simulated surround sound environments - Music, Theater, and Stadium modes. And up to 3 digital and 1 analog sound components can be connected to the ADS 4000 and your speaker system at the same time!

Necrosis · Nov 6, 2002, 04:41 PM

I'm interested in knowing which one of these will work with an Audigy.

I like the Midiland decoder better; you can tell what it's doing easier.

Price is more reasonable too.

BTW, I'm thinking about buying some bookshelf speakers to replace my Klipsch orginals. I haven't decided on what brand yet but I will let you guys know how it turns out.

reno · Nov 8, 2002, 02:30 AM

...if you are going to bother with separate receivers for digital outsourcing you may as well buy a REAL receiver, like a 200+ buck Pioneer one that supports Dolby EX and DTS:ES. Buying a receiver for klipsch speakers is like buying a 15 inch sub for your bathroom radio.

You could probably set yourself up with an amazing sounding 5.1 rig with receiver for close to $750...which since you'd be paying 500+ bucks for the klipsch 5.1s and the receiver...would be acceptable. Plus, with a real receiver, you can hook up more than 2 DIGITAL sources to it (like hook up an audigy platinum's optical out to it, then hook up your DVD player to it, and switch between the two with the press of a button).

I've been considering doing the same thing myself, and just giving my logitechs to my brother...man, could you imagine doom three on a true 5.1 system...with 24bit/192khz DACs and 600watt output...hhooooowee!

Necrosis · Nov 10, 2002, 12:39 AM

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Originally posted by reno
...if you are going to bother with separate receivers for digital outsourcing you may as well buy a REAL receiver, like a 200+ buck Pioneer one that supports Dolby EX and DTS:ES. Buying a receiver for klipsch speakers is like buying a 15 inch sub for your bathroom radio.

You could probably set yourself up with an amazing sounding 5.1 rig with receiver for close to $750...which since you'd be paying 500+ bucks for the klipsch 5.1s and the receiver...would be acceptable. Plus, with a real receiver, you can hook up more than 2 DIGITAL sources to it (like hook up an audigy platinum's optical out to it, then hook up your DVD player to it, and switch between the two with the press of a button).

I've been considering doing the same thing myself, and just giving my logitechs to my brother...man, could you imagine doom three on a true 5.1 system...with 24bit/192khz DACs and 600watt output...hhooooowee!

The only problem with this is I already have a very nice home theater setup. Why would I want to buy another setup for my computer; I rarely watch movies on it anyway. The only thing I really need is to uprade to a HDTV and I'll be all set; just a bitch trying to find one that will fit in my entertainment center. The main reason I would buy one of the special "jobbies" is because of size and ease of use. Why have more than what I need? I'm limited on space currently in my computer room. Prior to the Klipsch I was running a Pioneer receiver with 4 Yamaha Natural Sound bookshelfs with a Polk 10" power sub; just a bit much for a converted walk in closet.

reno · Nov 10, 2002, 03:43 PM

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Prior to the Klipsch I was running a Pioneer receiver with 4 Yamaha Natural Sound bookshelfs with a Polk 10" power sub; just a bit much for a converted walk in closet

I cringe to think of how loud that could get in there

Does a good, big, HDTV tv cost less than an HDTV capable LCD projector? We have one in our motion picture class, and MAN, the matrix looks sweet 50 feet wide!

Sep 20, 2002, 12:48 PM	#1
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Nov 4, 2002, 06:50 AM	#4
UDPride DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Dayton OH Posts: 5 Rep Power: 0	I was leaning toward the Klipsch 5.1 for my Voodoo, but I think Im going to go with these 680s. Cheaper, as much power, THX/DTS etc. Looks like more for less. Been checking the e-commerce sites every day but no one has them in stock yet. I love Klipsch, and some of Logitech stuff is downright mediocre, but their high-end speaker setups have been notoriously well respected for a while. Maybe they need to concentrate on it and give up the mouse/keyboard department. Wait, I also own a Logitech mouse/keyboard. Forget that! __________________ VISIT UDPRIDE.COM THE LEADER IN DAYTON FLYER SPORTS COVERAGE Voodoo C Class \| Asus/533FSB/USB2.0/10-100 \| 431W Power \| P4 2.8ghz/533 \| 512mb PC-1066 \| ATI Radeon 9700 Pro \| CF/SM/Microdrive Card Reader \| Sony DVD/Pioneer DVD-RW \| ATA-100 Raid Controller \| (2) 120GB WD1200BBSE Software Drives RAID0 \| 80GB WD 800BBSE System Drive \| Audigy Platinum EX w/Logitech Z680 (soon) \| Logitech Wireless KB/Mouse \| Hitachi Superscan 751 \| Win XP Pro \| Fuji S1(still) \| Sony VX2000(video) \| Roland XP-50(MIDI)

Nov 4, 2002, 07:09 AM	#5
e-Seeker AKA e-Seeker Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Croatia, Zagreb Posts: 943 Rep Power: 0	Read a bit more: http://www.thx.com/press/2002/logitech_speakers.html __________________

Nov 4, 2002, 06:03 PM	#6
Xploited Titan Driverheaven's evil Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Brussels, capital of Belgium Posts: 207 Rep Power: 0	You seem to forget that there's THX and THX........... The Logitech THX speakers aren't as good as real THX Home Cinema (Hi-Fi) speakers from professional brands..... They are relatively linear at high volumes and are capable of giving a good quality on the whole spectrum (ca. 20 Hz - 20 kHz)........ Real THX speakers need to answer to strictlier demands........ But for a computer it is the max and it's rather cheap... Anyone wanna buy my Yamaha 2.1 speakers __________________ I see living people...

Nov 4, 2002, 09:43 PM	Thread Starter #7
Necrosis HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Ohio Posts: 8,838 Rep Power: 131 System Specs	Does anyone know the asking price for these or when they will be released?

Nov 4, 2002, 10:43 PM	#8
UDPride DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Dayton OH Posts: 5 Rep Power: 0	I saw around $290 or so from Computers4Sure or one of those outfits (before shipping). Every place Ive checked so far as "0" in stock so they may still be waiting on their first batch. __________________ VISIT UDPRIDE.COM THE LEADER IN DAYTON FLYER SPORTS COVERAGE Voodoo C Class \| Asus/533FSB/USB2.0/10-100 \| 431W Power \| P4 2.8ghz/533 \| 512mb PC-1066 \| ATI Radeon 9700 Pro \| CF/SM/Microdrive Card Reader \| Sony DVD/Pioneer DVD-RW \| ATA-100 Raid Controller \| (2) 120GB WD1200BBSE Software Drives RAID0 \| 80GB WD 800BBSE System Drive \| Audigy Platinum EX w/Logitech Z680 (soon) \| Logitech Wireless KB/Mouse \| Hitachi Superscan 751 \| Win XP Pro \| Fuji S1(still) \| Sony VX2000(video) \| Roland XP-50(MIDI)

Nov 5, 2002, 07:29 AM	#11
UDPride DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Dayton OH Posts: 5 Rep Power: 0	That was pretty much my opinion. I dont see how the Klipsch are worth $100+ more at this point. Great speakers no doubt but I think Logitech may have undercut them too much for even Klipsch to counter. I was leaning toward the Klipsch but will now wait until the z680s are available. __________________ VISIT UDPRIDE.COM THE LEADER IN DAYTON FLYER SPORTS COVERAGE Voodoo C Class \| Asus/533FSB/USB2.0/10-100 \| 431W Power \| P4 2.8ghz/533 \| 512mb PC-1066 \| ATI Radeon 9700 Pro \| CF/SM/Microdrive Card Reader \| Sony DVD/Pioneer DVD-RW \| ATA-100 Raid Controller \| (2) 120GB WD1200BBSE Software Drives RAID0 \| 80GB WD 800BBSE System Drive \| Audigy Platinum EX w/Logitech Z680 (soon) \| Logitech Wireless KB/Mouse \| Hitachi Superscan 751 \| Win XP Pro \| Fuji S1(still) \| Sony VX2000(video) \| Roland XP-50(MIDI)

Nov 5, 2002, 05:25 PM	#12
reno Painlord of Ichor Join Date: May 2002 Location: bloinkin! Posts: 1,610 Rep Power: 0	dsf Damn...and I bought my z560s like 5 months ago... pout

Nov 6, 2002, 04:12 AM	#14
UDPride DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Dayton OH Posts: 5 Rep Power: 0	What Klipsch can do and what Klipsch will do are two entirely different variables. Klipsch knows they are perceived as upscale. Just like Sony will never reduce prices to compete with HP on a consistent basis, the only thing that will get Klipsch to drop $100+ off thier 5.1s as soon as the Logitechs come out is a change in corporate philosophy. In other words, Fuggedaboudit. They sell less but their margins are higher. Similar to Porsche. Porsche is the most profitable car company in the world, yet sells so few. Decent marketing, a strong loyal upscale clientele and a decent product does wonders. But you wont see Porsche competing against the PT Cruiser any time soon either. __________________ VISIT UDPRIDE.COM THE LEADER IN DAYTON FLYER SPORTS COVERAGE Voodoo C Class \| Asus/533FSB/USB2.0/10-100 \| 431W Power \| P4 2.8ghz/533 \| 512mb PC-1066 \| ATI Radeon 9700 Pro \| CF/SM/Microdrive Card Reader \| Sony DVD/Pioneer DVD-RW \| ATA-100 Raid Controller \| (2) 120GB WD1200BBSE Software Drives RAID0 \| 80GB WD 800BBSE System Drive \| Audigy Platinum EX w/Logitech Z680 (soon) \| Logitech Wireless KB/Mouse \| Hitachi Superscan 751 \| Win XP Pro \| Fuji S1(still) \| Sony VX2000(video) \| Roland XP-50(MIDI)

Nov 6, 2002, 10:44 AM	Thread Starter #15
Necrosis HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Ohio Posts: 8,838 Rep Power: 131 System Specs	Besides something I have forgot about; for around $180.00 I could have speakers as good as or better than the new Logitechs. This versatile audio surround sound system digital decoder/preamplifier is precisely crafted to bring you the most advanced surround modes including DTS, Dolby Digital & Dolby Pro Logic. This system will reproduce six discrete channels of encoded sound tracks with true fidelity and sonic excellence. The ProMedia DD-5.1 automatically detects the type of signal present at each input and decodes it based on the original encoded software. * The ProMedia DD-5.1 allows you to connect virtually any audio input sources such as: o Game Consoles with Digital Connectivity (With Toslink optical cable or RCA S/P-DIF) XBox, PlayStation 2 o Computer Soundcards with Digital Connectivity (S/P DIF; RCA or Toslink jack) o DVD Players, LD Player, CD Player with Digital Connectivity (S/P DIF; RCA or Toslink jack) o Analog 2-channel (stereo RCA) sources such as TV, VCR, CD Player o 2-channel Miniplug Sources will need an adapter to RCA plugs. (PC soundcards, laptops, or analog 2-channel Game Consoles: Nintendo, Sony PlayStation) * This unit includes Bass Management, but the optimum mode is to set all channels to Large Mode (RED LED) so the ProMedia system can accurately channel the bass information to the subwoofer. * 2-channel, 4-channel, and 5.1-channel modes for your specific ProMedia system. This is especially helpful to allow digital connectivity to all of our products. It is up to the user to decide the facility for a ProMedia 2.1 application, but the 4.1 and 5.1 benefit significantly with this unit. * This unit includes Five Channel Equalization for fine tuning the frequency curve of your system * Convenient Wireless Remote Control

Nov 6, 2002, 04:41 PM	Thread Starter #17
Necrosis HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Ohio Posts: 8,838 Rep Power: 131 System Specs	I'm interested in knowing which one of these will work with an Audigy. I like the Midiland decoder better; you can tell what it's doing easier. Price is more reasonable too. BTW, I'm thinking about buying some bookshelf speakers to replace my Klipsch orginals. I haven't decided on what brand yet but I will let you guys know how it turns out.

Nov 8, 2002, 02:30 AM	#18
reno Painlord of Ichor Join Date: May 2002 Location: bloinkin! Posts: 1,610 Rep Power: 0	df ...if you are going to bother with separate receivers for digital outsourcing you may as well buy a REAL receiver, like a 200+ buck Pioneer one that supports Dolby EX and DTS:ES. Buying a receiver for klipsch speakers is like buying a 15 inch sub for your bathroom radio. You could probably set yourself up with an amazing sounding 5.1 rig with receiver for close to $750...which since you'd be paying 500+ bucks for the klipsch 5.1s and the receiver...would be acceptable. Plus, with a real receiver, you can hook up more than 2 DIGITAL sources to it (like hook up an audigy platinum's optical out to it, then hook up your DVD player to it, and switch between the two with the press of a button). I've been considering doing the same thing myself, and just giving my logitechs to my brother...man, could you imagine doom three on a true 5.1 system...with 24bit/192khz DACs and 600watt output...hhooooowee!