New IPod or Rio Karma

germanjulian · Aug 17, 2004, 07:29 PM

OH... as I said I got some spare cash but the whole case thing is a bit of a waster of money and I just realized my mp3 player i use every day is a brick old battery is dying and its giving me ofter random restarts now...

so lets be clever and get a new one.

Ipod the new one is : £219
Rio Karma is : £216.95

Both are good players. I only use mp3. 12 or 15 hours battery time I dont care.. Looks I dont really care either.. though IPod is nice.
Now the only problem is my g/f has a 2nd gen IPod... will I run into problems having 2 Ipod one 1 machine. (Not as the same time of course)

so please advine and vote

or

germanjulian · Aug 17, 2004, 07:37 PM

ahh who likes apple??? not me karma it is...

but guys you can still vote... this will be an intresting result

Dom · Aug 17, 2004, 08:00 PM

Eat the Apple.

dipstick · Aug 17, 2004, 08:30 PM

Can you put your own tunes on the iPOD or do you have to get them from iTunes? Both look nice though

germanjulian · Aug 17, 2004, 08:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dipstick

Can you put your own tunes on the iPOD or do you have to get them from iTunes? Both look nice though

lol what do you think....
of course you put our own ones on it. rip a cd and put it on there. downloads...

etc...

nobody would buy an ipod if you had to buy every song on itunes... that would cost a bomb to fill a 20GB Ipod

dipstick · Aug 17, 2004, 08:47 PM

haha, thought so lol. Ignore the stupid question. I'd go with the Apple then

**dj_stick** · Aug 17, 2004, 09:45 PM

iRiver H140

check the specs on the iRiver website you'll be impressed.
also download the PDF manual - you will be surprised with the amount of settings/options you can change

germanjulian · Aug 17, 2004, 10:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dj_stick

iRiver H140

check the specs on the iRiver website you'll be impressed.
also download the PDF manual - you will be surprised with the amount of settings/options you can change

yeah and it looks like poo..... karma karma.... just the name is kick ass....

i think i be happy....

**dj_stick** · Aug 17, 2004, 10:06 PM

also afaik only one iPod will work per computer

classic_leon · Aug 17, 2004, 10:26 PM

Neither of them.
[color=blue]Hi-MD[/color]

http://www.sony.net/Products/Hi-MD/

pic of whole

compare with IPOD

Zardon · Aug 17, 2004, 10:41 PM

iriver.

Zardon · Aug 17, 2004, 10:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by germanjulian

yeah and it looks like poo..... ..

its not a TV, you use your ears. listen to djstick he knows his audio.

classic_leon · Aug 17, 2004, 10:45 PM

http://hi-md.net/
drives you cool!!!

germanjulian · Aug 18, 2004, 12:00 PM

well I was reading the I revolution website and it seem the karma is quiete high on the odd HD failure... more then my creative product or ipods....

I then saw their "Experience with RMA" thread...
it seems waiting for over 2 months after you send it in for repair is pretty common....

dam I not gonna deal with that crap and gonna get an iriver... well the iRiver H140
looks not so great but after thinking about it its the best mp3 player...

and sony's mp3 player oh HI-MD

germanjulian · Aug 18, 2004, 12:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zardon

its not a TV, you use your ears. listen to djstick he knows his audio.

thanks for the slight slap... lol

what was I thinking??? not getting the better product

~~HawK~~ · Aug 18, 2004, 12:22 PM

Voted none, these devices will ultimitly destroy your ears, anyone with tinnitus (like me) will know what i mean, do not wish this even for my worst enemy to have.. :

:

germanjulian · Aug 18, 2004, 01:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HawK

Voted none, these devices will ultimitly destroy your ears, anyone with tinnitus (like me) will know what i mean, do not wish this even for my worst enemy to have.. :

:

I have not had ringing in my ears for 2 years now. I try to listen to my headphones with reasonable volume.. I also got teh sony in your ear headphones which cancel out outside noise pretty well = you dont need your music so loud.

when I go to concerts or clubbing I wear ProPlugs.. they cut th evolume by 18% or so and bring everything down to acceptable levels! they also dont distort sound and they cut out more high frequenzy sounds then low freq.

I am trying to protect my ear....

MY g/f on the other hand..... I have been trying so so hard making her listen to her music at normal volume but she does not listen and she has it so loud that when I put it into my ears I have to take the headphones straight out again.

RIV@NVX · Aug 18, 2004, 01:31 PM

I have bought an iPod, and so I voted iPod. I prefer it mostly because of AAC support, which you mention you don't need. I use my Sennheiser HD437 instead of default headphones with it, and it's mostly OK.

germanjulian · Aug 18, 2004, 01:33 PM

oh if anyone know how to update firmware or how to get EU firmware on an US model (due to volume limitation) or how to make the ipod less loud please tell me.

RIV@NVX · Aug 18, 2004, 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by germanjulian

oh if anyone know how to update firmware or how to get EU firmware on an US model (due to volume limitation) or how to make the ipod less loud please tell me.

All firmwares are in one package... hmm... the thing is how to manually patch the iPod with desired firmware version... I will take a look.

**dj_stick** · Aug 18, 2004, 01:49 PM

slightly off topic, but my iRiver H140 just arrived in the mail… in 24 hours i will tell you how it all goes so far

**dj_stick** · Aug 19, 2004, 03:44 AM

one thing i really like about the iRiver is the fade-in option - it will fade in when you resume play from 0 to the level you set it at before, so if someone was listening to it really loud you don't go deaf as soon as it starts to play, it gives you a chance to lower the volume before the fade-in is complete

germanjulian · Aug 19, 2004, 10:32 AM

ok got mine to and was looking at the interface and listening to the sample song (I am not home

)

yeah nice interface.. seems simple enough but you do need to get used to it.

the thing is not as heavy and big as I thought it would be too... which is nice.. and it is not ugly... though I do not like the joystick look but hey the features of this baby and the remote are nice... cant wait to copy 20GB of music or so on it when I get home... and play cs source... (dam 2 things at ones)

Malus · Aug 19, 2004, 07:50 PM

Go Go Karma!

RIV@NVX · Aug 23, 2004, 08:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by germanjulian

oh if anyone know how to update firmware or how to get EU firmware on an US model (due to volume limitation) or how to make the ipod less loud please tell me.

There are many ways of making iPod LODUER, but I have yet to find one site or guide about how to make iPod less loud.
There is a tool called euPod which can boost volume, but not decrease it.

BTW, there is a new firmware (for 4th gen iPod at least) on Apple's site, so you might want to experiment with it: http://www.apple.com/ipod/download/

Zardon · Aug 23, 2004, 10:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HawK

Voted none, these devices will ultimitly destroy your ears, anyone with tinnitus (like me) will know what i mean, do not wish this even for my worst enemy to have.. :

:

well thats a pretty down look at it, you are right to an extent but if you keep the levels low it wont harm your ears. People tend to get carried away. A good sign is if you start to get earwax build up (your bodies natural defense to noise) its a sign you need to lower the volume.

germanjulian · Aug 23, 2004, 10:46 PM

wahhh zardon... did not know my ear has its own hearing protection... cool

oh really like the iriver hp140... ITS WICKED!!

Aug 17, 2004, 07:29 PM	#1
germanjulian Back in London Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: London Posts: 1,797 Rep Power: 0	New IPod or Rio Karma OH... as I said I got some spare cash but the whole case thing is a bit of a waster of money and I just realized my mp3 player i use every day is a brick old battery is dying and its giving me ofter random restarts now... so lets be clever and get a new one. Ipod the new one is : £219 Rio Karma is : £216.95 Both are good players. I only use mp3. 12 or 15 hours battery time I dont care.. Looks I dont really care either.. though IPod is nice. Now the only problem is my g/f has a 2nd gen IPod... will I run into problems having 2 Ipod one 1 machine. (Not as the same time of course) so please advine and vote or __________________ /\|\ Asus P5W DH Deluxe, Intel C2D E6600, 2GB Corsair XMS2-6400C4 DDR2, E-VGA GeForce 7800 GT, Creative X-Fi Extreme Music, 500GB Seagate 7200.10 SATA, Lian Li PC-V1100 Aluminum Case Black, etc. http://germanjulian.com /\|\

Aug 17, 2004, 07:37 PM	Thread Starter #2
germanjulian Back in London Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: London Posts: 1,797 Rep Power: 0	ahh who likes apple??? not me karma it is... but guys you can still vote... this will be an intresting result __________________ /\|\ Asus P5W DH Deluxe, Intel C2D E6600, 2GB Corsair XMS2-6400C4 DDR2, E-VGA GeForce 7800 GT, Creative X-Fi Extreme Music, 500GB Seagate 7200.10 SATA, Lian Li PC-V1100 Aluminum Case Black, etc. http://germanjulian.com /\|\

Aug 17, 2004, 10:26 PM	#10
classic_leon HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Wu Han, Hu Bei, P.R.China Posts: 1,238 Rep Power: 0	Neither of them. [color=blue]Hi-MD[/color] http://www.sony.net/Products/Hi-MD/ pic of whole compare with IPOD __________________ Fashion keeps us alive. YouP-PAX Please visit http://www.A-PAX.co.uk to discuss the computer mods. The latest YouP PAX modded drivers are provided on the site.

Aug 17, 2004, 10:45 PM	#13
classic_leon HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Wu Han, Hu Bei, P.R.China Posts: 1,238 Rep Power: 0	http://hi-md.net/ drives you cool!!! __________________ Fashion keeps us alive. YouP-PAX Please visit http://www.A-PAX.co.uk to discuss the computer mods. The latest YouP PAX modded drivers are provided on the site.

Aug 18, 2004, 12:00 PM	Thread Starter #14
germanjulian Back in London Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: London Posts: 1,797 Rep Power: 0	well I was reading the I revolution website and it seem the karma is quiete high on the odd HD failure... more then my creative product or ipods.... I then saw their "Experience with RMA" thread... it seems waiting for over 2 months after you send it in for repair is pretty common.... dam I not gonna deal with that crap and gonna get an iriver... well the iRiver H140 looks not so great but after thinking about it its the best mp3 player... and sony's mp3 player oh HI-MD __________________ /\|\ Asus P5W DH Deluxe, Intel C2D E6600, 2GB Corsair XMS2-6400C4 DDR2, E-VGA GeForce 7800 GT, Creative X-Fi Extreme Music, 500GB Seagate 7200.10 SATA, Lian Li PC-V1100 Aluminum Case Black, etc. http://germanjulian.com /\|\ Last edited by germanjulian; Aug 18, 2004 at 12:17 PM.

Aug 17, 2004, 08:00 PM	#3
Dom DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 12,940 Rep Power: 0	Eat the Apple.

Aug 17, 2004, 08:30 PM	#4
dipstick HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: USA Posts: 3,609 Rep Power: 71 System Specs	Can you put your own tunes on the iPOD or do you have to get them from iTunes? Both look nice though

Aug 17, 2004, 08:47 PM	#6
dipstick HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: USA Posts: 3,609 Rep Power: 71 System Specs	haha, thought so lol. Ignore the stupid question. I'd go with the Apple then

Aug 17, 2004, 10:41 PM	#11
Zardon DriverHeaven Founder Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 32,480 Rep Power: 179	iriver.

Aug 18, 2004, 12:22 PM	#16
~~HawK~~ Banned Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 2,092 Rep Power: 0	Voted none, these devices will ultimitly destroy your ears, anyone with tinnitus (like me) will know what i mean, do not wish this even for my worst enemy to have.. ::

Aug 18, 2004, 01:31 PM	#18
RIV@NVX Freedom is a feature. Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Croatia, Rijeka Posts: 4,476 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	I have bought an iPod, and so I voted iPod. I prefer it mostly because of AAC support, which you mention you don't need. I use my Sennheiser HD437 instead of default headphones with it, and it's mostly OK.

Aug 18, 2004, 01:33 PM	Thread Starter #19
germanjulian Back in London Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: London Posts: 1,797 Rep Power: 0	oh if anyone know how to update firmware or how to get EU firmware on an US model (due to volume limitation) or how to make the ipod less loud please tell me. __________________ /\|\ Asus P5W DH Deluxe, Intel C2D E6600, 2GB Corsair XMS2-6400C4 DDR2, E-VGA GeForce 7800 GT, Creative X-Fi Extreme Music, 500GB Seagate 7200.10 SATA, Lian Li PC-V1100 Aluminum Case Black, etc. http://germanjulian.com /\|\

Aug 19, 2004, 10:32 AM	Thread Starter #23
germanjulian Back in London Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: London Posts: 1,797 Rep Power: 0	ok got mine to and was looking at the interface and listening to the sample song (I am not home ) yeah nice interface.. seems simple enough but you do need to get used to it. the thing is not as heavy and big as I thought it would be too... which is nice.. and it is not ugly... though I do not like the joystick look but hey the features of this baby and the remote are nice... cant wait to copy 20GB of music or so on it when I get home... and play cs source... (dam 2 things at ones) __________________ /\|\ Asus P5W DH Deluxe, Intel C2D E6600, 2GB Corsair XMS2-6400C4 DDR2, E-VGA GeForce 7800 GT, Creative X-Fi Extreme Music, 500GB Seagate 7200.10 SATA, Lian Li PC-V1100 Aluminum Case Black, etc. http://germanjulian.com /\|\

Aug 19, 2004, 07:50 PM	#24
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Aug 23, 2004, 10:46 PM	Thread Starter #27
germanjulian Back in London Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: London Posts: 1,797 Rep Power: 0	wahhh zardon... did not know my ear has its own hearing protection... cool oh really like the iriver hp140... ITS WICKED!! __________________ /\|\ Asus P5W DH Deluxe, Intel C2D E6600, 2GB Corsair XMS2-6400C4 DDR2, E-VGA GeForce 7800 GT, Creative X-Fi Extreme Music, 500GB Seagate 7200.10 SATA, Lian Li PC-V1100 Aluminum Case Black, etc. http://germanjulian.com /\|\