Creative really so bad?

reno · Oct 25, 2002, 04:12 AM

Everyone is always talking about BSODs and PCI 2.1 problems...but I've never experienced that sort of thing...am I just EXTREMELY lucky and should count my blessings?

I'd be interested to know the configs that have probs with Audigy's, so I can avoid em

Necrosis · Oct 25, 2002, 07:13 AM

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Originally posted by reno
Everyone is always talking about BSODs and PCI 2.1 problems...but I've never experienced that sort of thing...am I just EXTREMELY lucky and should count my blessings?

I'd be interested to know the configs that have probs with Audigy's, so I can avoid em

Honestly I never personally had a problem running Creative cards either. I think mainly it's the hokey drivers. For example the Audigy 2 drivers have a bug which under "device manager" it's displayed just as an Audigy. If buy an Audigy 2 (I am today) I want it to say Audigy 2 in the device manager.

Erroneus · Oct 25, 2002, 12:28 PM

Well there were problems with VIA chipsets, eg. i couldn't run my old Live card together with old epox motherboard, which were using a via ide controller. The latest drives did help, but i would still expirence BSOD and destroyed data :/ So i bought a TerraTec DMX fire 1024, which is one of the best buys ever

What pisses me off with Creative, is they are aware of this bug and still it was not fixed with audigy, alot of people also had problems with audigy, i don't know about audigy 2?? But hopefully they fixed it, so people don't have to use latency patches from via (they just released a new one) which makes the pc slower, because the creative card can't handle the amount of data send through the PCI interface!!

RIV@NVX · Oct 25, 2002, 02:15 PM

Well, since I use kX drivers, only problem is stuttering of playback (hardware - VIA chipset).
I don't like CL drivers, they maybe should work good, but they have a lot of crackling in sound in my case, so I give up EAX for sound quality.

So... hope that A2 will be better then A1.
Is A2 EMU10k2 based too?

Erroneus · Oct 25, 2002, 03:09 PM

So far i can read from PR's, reviews and specs, it should be based on a new chip....but again..

reno · Oct 26, 2002, 02:14 AM

And this VIA PCI latency thing...I'm using one of the rarer P4X266 boards from SHUTTLE no less, and have never had hitching in my games, except in UT2003 when models load, but I doubt that's a sound problem.

And Neocrosis, my Audigy displays as an Audigy Platinum in devices...neener neener neener! hehe, jk

DallasStar · Oct 26, 2002, 05:15 AM

i was once in your shoes and if you look throuh my posts at rage3d, you'll find that i asked this exact same question once over there..... now i know better

.... i have now experienced the problems with bsods etc, however, i have also noticed that they happen sometimes, but not again with a reformat until several reformats later

. however, i still consider myself lucky because it only happened to me twice and never again (dunny why

)

WyreTheWolf · Oct 26, 2002, 08:47 AM

The best way to avoid the problem ... is to avoid the product. Just my $0.02

RIV@NVX · Oct 26, 2002, 10:38 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by reno
And this VIA PCI latency thing...I'm using one of the rarer P4X266 boards from SHUTTLE no less, and have never had hitching in my games, except in UT2003 when models load, but I doubt that's a sound problem.

And Neocrosis, my Audigy displays as an Audigy Platinum in devices...neener neener neener! hehe, jk

And my displays as kX 10k2 Audio - Model CT0092.
I never thought that CL makes difference between Platinum and Player in device manager. Hmmm...

reno · Oct 26, 2002, 03:57 PM

Here's a screenshot of device manager, I'm using the drivers dated 8/12/02.

A screenshot

Oct 25, 2002, 04:12 AM	#1
reno Painlord of Ichor Join Date: May 2002 Location: bloinkin! Posts: 1,610 Rep Power: 0	Creative really so bad? Everyone is always talking about BSODs and PCI 2.1 problems...but I've never experienced that sort of thing...am I just EXTREMELY lucky and should count my blessings? I'd be interested to know the configs that have probs with Audigy's, so I can avoid em

Oct 25, 2002, 12:28 PM	#3
Erroneus Get off my lawn! Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Denmark Posts: 13,417 Rep Power: 119 System Specs	via Well there were problems with VIA chipsets, eg. i couldn't run my old Live card together with old epox motherboard, which were using a via ide controller. The latest drives did help, but i would still expirence BSOD and destroyed data :/ So i bought a TerraTec DMX fire 1024, which is one of the best buys ever What pisses me off with Creative, is they are aware of this bug and still it was not fixed with audigy, alot of people also had problems with audigy, i don't know about audigy 2?? But hopefully they fixed it, so people don't have to use latency patches from via (they just released a new one) which makes the pc slower, because the creative card can't handle the amount of data send through the PCI interface!! __________________

Oct 25, 2002, 02:15 PM	#4
RIV@NVX Freedom is a feature. Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Croatia, Rijeka Posts: 4,476 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	Well, since I use kX drivers, only problem is stuttering of playback (hardware - VIA chipset). I don't like CL drivers, they maybe should work good, but they have a lot of crackling in sound in my case, so I give up EAX for sound quality. So... hope that A2 will be better then A1. Is A2 EMU10k2 based too? __________________ -- Vedran

Oct 25, 2002, 03:09 PM	#5
Erroneus Get off my lawn! Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Denmark Posts: 13,417 Rep Power: 119 System Specs	dont think so So far i can read from PR's, reviews and specs, it should be based on a new chip....but again.. __________________

Oct 26, 2002, 02:14 AM	Thread Starter #6
reno Painlord of Ichor Join Date: May 2002 Location: bloinkin! Posts: 1,610 Rep Power: 0	ewtre And this VIA PCI latency thing...I'm using one of the rarer P4X266 boards from SHUTTLE no less, and have never had hitching in my games, except in UT2003 when models load, but I doubt that's a sound problem. And Neocrosis, my Audigy displays as an Audigy Platinum in devices...neener neener neener! hehe, jk

Oct 26, 2002, 05:15 AM	#7
DallasStar Junior Join Date: May 2002 Location: Wave Existence Posts: 2,065 Rep Power: 0	i was once in your shoes and if you look throuh my posts at rage3d, you'll find that i asked this exact same question once over there..... now i know better .... i have now experienced the problems with bsods etc, however, i have also noticed that they happen sometimes, but not again with a reformat until several reformats later . however, i still consider myself lucky because it only happened to me twice and never again (dunny why ) __________________ "A picture of my existence... would show a useless wooden stake covered in snow... stuck loosely at a slant in the ground in a ploughed field on the edge of a vast open plain on a dark winter night." --- Franz Kafka

Oct 26, 2002, 08:47 AM	#8
WyreTheWolf Wolfish Bastard Join Date: May 2002 Location: Cave; Ozark Mountains Posts: 2,110 Rep Power: 0	The best way to avoid the problem ... is to avoid the product. Just my $0.02

Oct 26, 2002, 03:57 PM	Thread Starter #10
reno Painlord of Ichor Join Date: May 2002 Location: bloinkin! Posts: 1,610 Rep Power: 0	xcgd Here's a screenshot of device manager, I'm using the drivers dated 8/12/02. A screenshot