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Old Jan 27, 2005, 07:04 PM   #181
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Old Jan 27, 2005, 11:24 PM   #182
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Ok well been testing it extensively last night. Having some problems:

1: Mediasource will hang if you turn off and on EAX a couple of times. It will then crash and leave the CTMS.exe in the taskmanager. This process cannot be halted and causes inablity to shutdown/restart. Forcing a hard reset.
2: After a couple of reboots, the computer will fail to shutdown or restart properly. I end up with it hanging. Again hard reset required.
3: It seems to be affecting other apps ability to release from processes. With the apps installed, I keep having problems with programs not realeasing the exe from processes section in taskmanager.

Without the apps installed and only the PAX drivers, all is fine. But with the PAX drivers, my computer keeps locking up on shutdown.

Any ideas?
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Old Jan 27, 2005, 11:34 PM   #183
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I try it myself - when I quick turn on/off EAX couple times in Creative MediaSource, then application hangs up for 5 seconds and then it return to normal. But when it play some MP3 and I do the same operation then MediaSource hang up completly and only reset helps...
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I try it myself - when I quick turn on/off EAX couple times in Creative MediaSource, then application hangs up for 5 seconds and then it return to normal. But when it play some MP3 and I do the same operation then MediaSource hang up completly and only reset helps...
i had that problem til i uninstalled the creative entamement center. then every thing worked great.
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Old Jan 28, 2005, 01:20 AM   #185
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I try it myself - when I quick turn on/off EAX couple times in Creative MediaSource, then application hangs up for 5 seconds and then it return to normal. But when it play some MP3 and I do the same operation then MediaSource hang up completly and only reset helps...
Ahh cool thanks for trying, not just me then. I gotta feeling norton was going a bit awry, therefore I uninstalled it and installed zonealarm and Norton Antivirus Corporate. Everything seems a bit better now. I also never had the entertainment centre installed.
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Old Jan 28, 2005, 02:02 AM   #186
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I am not a total noob but I have a question. This is not a simple install, I have an Audigy Platinum which is the best way to go with the install (newyear or creative drivers) and what "extra applications" if any do I need to install. I installed with the newyear driver option and all the applications on a fresh XP SP2 system but the system wont shutdown. I am about to reformat and start over and would appreciate any suggestions.

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Old Jan 28, 2005, 02:17 AM   #187
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I am not a total noob but I have a question. This is not a simple install, I have an Audigy Platinum which is the best way to go with the install (newyear or creative drivers) and what "extra applications" if any do I need to install. I installed with the newyear driver option and all the applications on a fresh XP SP2 system but the system wont shutdown. I am about to reformat and start over and would appreciate any suggestions.

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For installation tips, I say read post #166 in this thread.
I have an Audigy and the NewYearv1.2 drivers work much beter for me than the Creative Official drivers for the Audigy.

After following the instructions from post #166, if things are not working for you, come back here and post for more help form everybody or classic leon, particularly.
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Old Jan 28, 2005, 02:43 AM   #188
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I have read that post and all the others on this thread. The first itme I did the install I waited as advised in post 166. The drivers and aps installed correctly but the system would hang and not shutdown or restart. I think this may be related to the "updates" that appear on the last options screen, do I need to install "audio HQ" etc... for my card or is that what is causing the shutdown hang?

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I have read that post and all the others on this thread. The first itme I did the install I waited as advised in post 166. The drivers and aps installed correctly but the system would hang and not shutdown or restart. I think this may be related to the "updates" that appear on the last options screen, do I need to install "audio HQ" etc... for my card or is that what is causing the shutdown hang?

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This is the same issue I was having
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Old Jan 28, 2005, 05:16 AM   #190
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I think the problem is the instructions at the screen with the updates has very funny instructions. If my memory serves me correctly, I remembered seeing tbe instruction saying do not install UNLESS your system has problem shutting down or something like that. Funny thing is, without installing any of the updates, there is no hanging but only after installing "Entertainment Center" which is part of that screen, my com refuses to shut down.
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Hi all:

I didnt install the mediasource update nor the Entertainment Center. English is not classic leon's native language, so some things he mentioned about installing the Entertainment Center seems unclear. Surely, things will clear up eventually. But until then, maybe you all who installed the Entertainment Center and are experiencing the hang problem can start over and dont install it next time, and see how things work for you, then.
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Old Jan 28, 2005, 07:27 AM   #192
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Uninstalling the entertainment center resolves the issue for me, but that means I will not be able to use my remote control. Another interesting thing I realised was the first time after I installed the entertainment center, it reports and Audigy drive. However, now it's reporting a Live! Drive instead. Maybe this could be the problem......
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Old Jan 28, 2005, 10:25 AM   #193
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if you wanna uninstall the newyear package, it's really a pain in the ass. now windows keep on popping up new hardware found, creative soundfont synth, and look for the newyear driver which i no longer have. i tried uninstalling, then driver cleaner pro and install the original driver but to no avail. last resort is to format C: classic, do you have any idea how to uninstall your driver completely??? thanks!
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Old Jan 28, 2005, 04:38 PM   #194
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I have reformatted and reinstalled XP SP2 nothing else on the system and want to go for a clean install tonight when I get home from work. The card is an Audigy Platinum. I want to avoid the shutdown hang and need to know what "extra applications" if any need to be installed (audio HQ?) Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
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Old Jan 28, 2005, 09:26 PM   #195
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does the digital out on any ones audigy2 works with these drivers? i just want to make sure that its not my sound card.
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Old Jan 28, 2005, 09:31 PM   #196
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Everything on my card worked (but I have an Audigy Platinum) but the system would hang on shutdown or restart. These driviers were installed on a clean system (A7N8X-E Deluxe Athlon XP 3200)
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Old Jan 28, 2005, 10:03 PM Threadstarter Thread Starter   #197
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Bad news: Live 2005 NewYear project has been canceled...
Good news: A updated package is being made and It will support Audigy X and SBLive.

Maybe the package now you are using has bugs, but it is beta only and cannot be perfect for everyone. Creative sound is freak as dj_stick said, so it is not possible to be working on everyone's PC properly. But I think most of guys will get this pack run on their pc.
Seems Entertianmetn Center got bug for you, try to uninstall this entertianment center and install a MediaSource RemoteControl Component to adjust your remote setting and then install Entertainment Center though I use it on my Audigy2 Platinum properly now.
That device is SoundFont midi. the driver of this device is only can be found in PAX NewYear1.2. You could run newyear 1.2 to extract files(after extract the files, you click cancel to abort installation) to your c:\ then get install this device, even though you want to install other drivers, it won't effect your use. or you run the installer of PAX NewYear 1.2 and choose to uninstall during that process. uninstall all cl apps first then the pax drivers then run dh driver cleaner and follow the included instructions then do a manual removal of all leftover stuff.(this is >GSXR<mrbusa's way to remove it vbmenu_register("postmenu_541270", true); )
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I think you may install it under pure system if you want to confirm the package and drivers running fine.
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So which drivers provide the best sound quality and performance for games.
PAX 1.2 drivers or the creative drivers?
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Bad news: Live 2005 NewYear project has been canceled...
Good news: A updated package is being made and It will support Audigy X and SBLive.

Maybe the package now you are using has bugs, but it is beta only and cannot be perfect for everyone. Creative sound is freak as dj_stick said, so it is not possible to be working on everyone's PC properly. But I think most of guys will get this pack run on their pc.
Seems Entertianmetn Center got bug for you, try to uninstall this entertianment center and install a MediaSource RemoteControl Component to adjust your remote setting and then install Entertainment Center though I use it on my Audigy2 Platinum properly now.
That device is SoundFont midi. the driver of this device is only can be found in PAX NewYear1.2. You could run newyear 1.2 to extract files(after extract the files, you click cancel to abort installation) to your c:\ then get install this device, even though you want to install other drivers, it won't effect your use. or you run the installer of PAX NewYear 1.2 and choose to uninstall during that process. uninstall all cl apps first then the pax drivers then run dh driver cleaner and follow the included instructions then do a manual removal of all leftover stuff.(this is >GSXR<mrbusa's way to remove it vbmenu_register("postmenu_541270", true); )
mmm what a pity.... And when will be this packcage released? Is youp modifying all again?
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Bad news: Live 2005 NewYear project has been canceled...
Good news: A updated package is being made and It will support Audigy X and SBLive.

Maybe the package now you are using has bugs, but it is beta only and cannot be perfect for everyone. Creative sound is freak as dj_stick said, so it is not possible to be working on everyone's PC properly. But I think most of guys will get this pack run on their pc.
Seems Entertianmetn Center got bug for you, try to uninstall this entertianment center and install a MediaSource RemoteControl Component to adjust your remote setting and then install Entertainment Center though I use it on my Audigy2 Platinum properly now.
That device is SoundFont midi. the driver of this device is only can be found in PAX NewYear1.2. You could run newyear 1.2 to extract files(after extract the files, you click cancel to abort installation) to your c:\ then get install this device, even though you want to install other drivers, it won't effect your use. or you run the installer of PAX NewYear 1.2 and choose to uninstall during that process. uninstall all cl apps first then the pax drivers then run dh driver cleaner and follow the included instructions then do a manual removal of all leftover stuff.(this is >GSXR<mrbusa's way to remove it vbmenu_register("postmenu_541270", true); )
I figured it would not be long based on peeps problems, but am eager for the new package. The problems I had with shutdown seemed to be to do with Norton Internet Security 2005. I uninstalled it and went with Norton Corp Edition Antivirus and ZoneAlarm free version. Everything is now running sweet.

So a suggestion for the next driver update guide would be to make sure people are not connected to the net, and have both antivirus and firewalls disabled during install.
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I'm having a hard time with the EMU 0404 sound card with these drivers. Under Sound And Audio Devices in Control Panel, Device Volume and Speaker Settings are both greyed out (image 3 in link below), and I can't get any sound at all. I don't get any errors however.

http://magsy.net/headfi/emu/

When trying to install some of the Creative software in the PAX package, I get an error saying that a valid component is not detected.

Please help! Can I send you a dxdiag report to help? How can I do this?

Thanks for your great effort with these drivers
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DXDiag audio section:

Description: E-DSP Wave [A000]
Default Sound Playback: Yes
Default Voice Playback: Yes
Hardware ID: PCI\VEN_1102&DEV_0008&SUBSYS_40021102&REV_00
Manufacturer ID: 1
Product ID: 100
Type: WDM
Driver Name: ctaud2k.sys
Driver Version: 5.12.0001.1042 (English)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
WHQL Logo'd: No
Date and Size: 11/18/2004 11:24:20, 404864 bytes
Other Files:
Driver Provider: Creative
HW Accel Level: Full
Cap Flags: 0xF5F
Min/Max Sample Rate: 4000, 192000
Static/Strm HW Mix Bufs: 64, 60
Static/Strm HW 3D Bufs: 0, 0
HW Memory: 0
Voice Management: No
EAX(tm) 2.0 Listen/Src: No, No
I3DL2(tm) Listen/Src: No, No
Sensaura(tm) ZoomFX(tm): No
Registry: OK
Sound Test Result: Not run

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hey guys, my mirror for the Audigy PAX 2005 is back up! I finally got another mirror for myself, no more downtime! hopefully.....

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Bad news: Live 2005 NewYear project has been canceled...
Good news: A updated package is being made and It will support Audigy X and SBLive.

Maybe the package now you are using has bugs, but it is beta only and cannot be perfect for everyone. Creative sound is freak as dj_stick said, so it is not possible to be working on everyone's PC properly. But I think most of guys will get this pack run on their pc.
Seems Entertianmetn Center got bug for you, try to uninstall this entertianment center and install a MediaSource RemoteControl Component to adjust your remote setting and then install Entertainment Center though I use it on my Audigy2 Platinum properly now.
That device is SoundFont midi. the driver of this device is only can be found in PAX NewYear1.2. You could run newyear 1.2 to extract files(after extract the files, you click cancel to abort installation) to your c:\ then get install this device, even though you want to install other drivers, it won't effect your use. or you run the installer of PAX NewYear 1.2 and choose to uninstall during that process. uninstall all cl apps first then the pax drivers then run dh driver cleaner and follow the included instructions then do a manual removal of all leftover stuff.(this is >GSXR<mrbusa's way to remove it vbmenu_register("postmenu_541270", true); )
Thanks for the advice but where can I install an Mediasource remotecontrol component? Does this mean I have to revert back to Mediasource 2 instead of the Mediasource 3? I don't remember seeing any options to install such a component. Any further advice? Thanks!
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I'm having a hard time with the EMU 0404 sound card with these drivers. Under Sound And Audio Devices in Control Panel, Device Volume and Speaker Settings are both greyed out (image 3 in link below), and I can't get any sound at all. I don't get any errors however.

http://magsy.net/headfi/emu/

When trying to install some of the Creative software in the PAX package, I get an error saying that a valid component is not detected.

Please help! Can I send you a dxdiag report to help? How can I do this?

Thanks for your great effort with these drivers
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DXDiag audio section:

Description: E-DSP Wave [A000]
Default Sound Playback: Yes
Default Voice Playback: Yes
Hardware ID: PCI\VEN_1102&DEV_0008&SUBSYS_40021102&REV_00
Manufacturer ID: 1
Product ID: 100
Type: WDM
Driver Name: ctaud2k.sys
Driver Version: 5.12.0001.1042 (English)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
WHQL Logo'd: No
Date and Size: 11/18/2004 11:24:20, 404864 bytes
Other Files:
Driver Provider: Creative
HW Accel Level: Full
Cap Flags: 0xF5F
Min/Max Sample Rate: 4000, 192000
Static/Strm HW Mix Bufs: 64, 60
Static/Strm HW 3D Bufs: 0, 0
HW Memory: 0
Voice Management: No
EAX(tm) 2.0 Listen/Src: No, No
I3DL2(tm) Listen/Src: No, No
Sensaura(tm) ZoomFX(tm): No
Registry: OK
Sound Test Result: Not run
I reckon youre having a hard time with the EMU-0404 and the drivers in this package because this package is not meant to support the EMU-0404. What made you think these drivers in this package support the EMU-0404? Why not use the official EMU drivers for your card? I was thinking about getting an EMU card. Are the official drivers bad?
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hey guys, my mirror for the Audigy PAX 2005 is back up! I finally got another mirror for myself, no more downtime! hopefully.....

http://ordorica.org
http://ordorica.info
Thanks man you really help us out in a big way. I could only get 2-3 kb on the chinese links, while on your site it goes on max

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Old Jan 29, 2005, 10:00 AM Threadstarter Thread Starter   #207
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One more expert whose name is UP joins into modding. Probably the previous plan will be back and instead of good news and bad news.
EMU 0404 and EMU 1212 cannot be supported by YouP PAX drivers.
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Thanks a crapload RCOrdorica; you've saved the day!
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Btw, has anyone with two Creative soundcards tried this hack with one of the cards? I've got an A2 and an 0404, and had a lot of trouble getting them to run together with the standard drivers (because Creative doesnt know how to give their driver dll's new names for each soundcard they produce. Idiots).
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No this is terrible news! All I want is EAX on the EMU 0404. Isn't this going to happen?

Is it even possible with this hardware?

Sometimes on the forum you say support for EMU1212 in the release notes. Is this an error?

If it is possible, I could just mod the drivers myself as I'm handy with the .inf files. What part of the driver affects EAX support, and can the driver support EAX 4.0 without extra software?

How can I make the install program "compatible" with my sound card?

What does the greyed out Windows volume control mean (please be specific)?

Thanks for your help
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