Stuttering on SB Live Gamer

Necrosis · Nov 14, 2002, 03:40 PM

Hey Folks,

I built up an old PIII rig for a friend last night, and it has the problem mentioned in the subject.

I've tried everything I can I think of.

1. New Drivers.
2. Motherboard Drivers.
3. New Video Card drivers.
4. Latency Patch
5. Disabling apps/processes
6. Moving Sound Card.
7. Etc...Etc...Etc..

The system is built around an older Via Chipset Slot one motherboard with a PIII 733.

The board is sharing a number of irq's.

First I tried disabling the devices that were sharing one by one. Next, I tried disabling all of them except the sound card & video card. The SB Live has it's own IRQ as well as the HD controller (Promise Ultra 100).

If you have any information I'd really appreciate it. I've always had the best of luck with Creative cards. However, only in my systems it seems like.

Thanks in advance.

P.S.

I also disabled the network card which he will not be using so the video card could have it's own irq too.

RIV@NVX · Nov 14, 2002, 09:13 PM

It is known problem with VIA chipset and Live!/Audigy. I don't think we have any real solution.

reno · Nov 15, 2002, 06:13 AM

Windows 98 SE actually runs better than XP when it comes to this bug, sadly I have discovered this after I converted gung-ho to XP. May have something to do with the ability to tweak more hard-drive settings/sound cache settings.

I dunno, Creative has me peeved.

DarkFoss · Nov 16, 2002, 02:39 AM

I had one in my old Tyan Trinity 400 mobo ..Try disabling either a com port or the parallel port and move the card around until you get it to Irq 5 or 3. The SB Live's work best on 5 with older Via chipsets. Also don't go above the 4.38 4in1's they don't seem to mix well ..Well not for me anyways

And use the latency (George Breese?)patch It really does help on the older via's ..that coupled with the drivers from the audigy 2 should get you decent performance with most games, unless he's(she) is playing EQ then I'd say abort go with an Audigy or another brand of sound card .

Necrosis · Nov 16, 2002, 05:30 PM

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Originally posted by DarkFoss
I had one in my old Tyan Trinity 400 mobo ..Try disabling either a com port or the parallel port and move the card around until you get it to Irq 5 or 3. The SB Live's work best on 5 with older Via chipsets. Also don't go above the 4.38 4in1's they don't seem to mix well ..Well not for me anyways And use the latency (George Breese?)patch It really does help on the older via's ..that coupled with the drivers from the audigy 2 should get you decent performance with most games, unless he's(she) is playing EQ then I'd say abort go with an Audigy or another brand of sound card .

I've already tried disabling Com ports and communication ports.

The sound card is now n Irq 3; I did loud the lastest Via drivers. Maybe I'll have him install an older set. I'm using the the latency patch w/ Audigy 2 drivers. I think it's some sort of device resource conflict but everything else works fine.

I just think it's one of those hardware PMS issues.

DarkFoss · Nov 16, 2002, 08:18 PM

Well as a last resort you can reformat leaving the cards where they are at now since you've gotten them isolated . That should clear up any io/memory conflicts created by moving them around.It shouldn't matter but did on my old board <shrug> Did 5 installs moving things around until I got sound vid and usb ports all nearly isolated,things ran quite a bit better once I played around. Before doing that run your dx diag tool and save the results then scroll through them and check all the entrys for conflicts and see if it's even necessary. Good Luck

Nov 14, 2002, 03:40 PM	#1
Necrosis HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Ohio Posts: 8,838 Rep Power: 129 System Specs	Stuttering on SB Live Gamer Hey Folks, I built up an old PIII rig for a friend last night, and it has the problem mentioned in the subject. I've tried everything I can I think of. 1. New Drivers. 2. Motherboard Drivers. 3. New Video Card drivers. 4. Latency Patch 5. Disabling apps/processes 6. Moving Sound Card. 7. Etc...Etc...Etc.. The system is built around an older Via Chipset Slot one motherboard with a PIII 733. The board is sharing a number of irq's. First I tried disabling the devices that were sharing one by one. Next, I tried disabling all of them except the sound card & video card. The SB Live has it's own IRQ as well as the HD controller (Promise Ultra 100). If you have any information I'd really appreciate it. I've always had the best of luck with Creative cards. However, only in my systems it seems like. Thanks in advance. P.S. I also disabled the network card which he will not be using so the video card could have it's own irq too.

Nov 14, 2002, 09:13 PM	#2
RIV@NVX Freedom is a feature. Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Croatia, Rijeka Posts: 4,476 Rep Power: 67 System Specs	It is known problem with VIA chipset and Live!/Audigy. I don't think we have any real solution. __________________ -- Vedran

Nov 15, 2002, 06:13 AM	#3
reno Painlord of Ichor Join Date: May 2002 Location: bloinkin! Posts: 1,610 Rep Power: 0	fdghd Windows 98 SE actually runs better than XP when it comes to this bug, sadly I have discovered this after I converted gung-ho to XP. May have something to do with the ability to tweak more hard-drive settings/sound cache settings. I dunno, Creative has me peeved.

Nov 16, 2002, 02:39 AM	#4
DarkFoss HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Downers Grove IL Posts: 688 Rep Power: 0	I had one in my old Tyan Trinity 400 mobo ..Try disabling either a com port or the parallel port and move the card around until you get it to Irq 5 or 3. The SB Live's work best on 5 with older Via chipsets. Also don't go above the 4.38 4in1's they don't seem to mix well ..Well not for me anyways And use the latency (George Breese?)patch It really does help on the older via's ..that coupled with the drivers from the audigy 2 should get you decent performance with most games, unless he's(she) is playing EQ then I'd say abort go with an Audigy or another brand of sound card .

Nov 16, 2002, 08:18 PM	#6
DarkFoss HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Downers Grove IL Posts: 688 Rep Power: 0	Well as a last resort you can reformat leaving the cards where they are at now since you've gotten them isolated . That should clear up any io/memory conflicts created by moving them around.It shouldn't matter but did on my old board <shrug> Did 5 installs moving things around until I got sound vid and usb ports all nearly isolated,things ran quite a bit better once I played around. Before doing that run your dx diag tool and save the results then scroll through them and check all the entrys for conflicts and see if it's even necessary. Good Luck