Audigy 1 Gamer Squeal Lockup

Renegade · Dec 15, 2002, 03:47 PM

I am still getting the squaling lockup problom for windows xp and i can't figure out how to fix it. I got the drivers off a website i found that were apparently supposed to fix it. http://oui.com.br/nando/essays/t03audigy01.htm

But for some reason i can't get them to work, i continue to get the error. here is what i have done:

tried installing them using their setup files - didn't work

tried uninstalling all sound drivers and programs, removed the card from device manager, rebooted, canceld windows automatic installation, then went to device manager, then update driver, chose from location and have disk, and directed it to the inf file in the extraction folder of the drivers package i got from that webpage. rebooted, still got lockup. i tried this with both the 377mb driver pack, and the 154mb driver pack.

i then proceded to search websites for the audigy 2 drivers and happend upon this website and its thread regarding audigy 2 drivers on a audigy 1 card. i downloaded them and tried installing them through the setup file, and got the same error once again.

i am thinking other people got this problom fixed as thats the impression that site i listed earlier gave me so its my assumption i am doing something wrong. I could really use some help with this and any help toward getting this fixed would be greatly appreciated, as i don't have money to go out and buy the audigy 2 card.

RIV@NVX · Dec 15, 2002, 04:49 PM

Full system config?

Renegade · Dec 15, 2002, 05:00 PM

windows xp
p3 1ghz
384mb rd ram
40 gig hard drive
audigy 1 gamer 5.1
geforce 2 64mb

^ that what u wanted?

P.S. trying the KX drivers now, just tryin to figure out how to get sound out of the center speaker and subwoofer...

RIV@NVX · Dec 15, 2002, 05:10 PM

kX is what I wanted to suggest.
You can use prologica if you want 5.1 surround setup.
Here is a little guide written by Max M.

>Yeah, maybe pseudo surround is what I want...

Then maybe you should do something like this (just one of the pooppilion possible variations):

1. Open kX DSP (reset it to default if it is not).

2. Load "ProLogica" module ("add effect/plugin"->"surround")

3. Connect outputs of "10 Band EQ" to inputs of the "Prologica"
(lot->Lt, rot->Rt)

4. Connect outputs of "Prologica" to "Epilog" inputs in following order:
L -> out0
R -> out1
Ls -> out8
Rs -> out9
C -> out17

This gives you an "surround" when listening to stereo sounds.

As for adding subwoofer to above setup you can do like this:

5. Load "Summ" plugin.
6. Connect outputs of "10 Band EQ" to any inputs of the "summ" (without disconnecting eq from prologica!)
7. Load "EQ Lowpass"
8. Connect output of "summ" to first input of "eq lowpass"
9. Set "EQ Lowpass"'s Freq to 120Hz and width to minimum (via "tweak")... (you can modify them later according to your taste)
10. Connect first output of lowpass to epilog's input "out18"

That will copy bass sounds from left/right into subwoofer (but not "move/redirect" them...)

Something like that...
(yep, crazy thingy , phhh)

Be carefull,

/Max

DallasStar · Dec 15, 2002, 06:35 PM

You may want to try these drivers: http://users2.ev1.net/~dallasstar/sb..._multilang.rar

RIV@NVX · Dec 15, 2002, 08:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by DallasStar
You may want to try these drivers: http://users2.ev1.net/~dallasstar/sb..._multilang.rar

Hasn't he said that he already tried Audigy2 Drivers?

Renegade · Dec 15, 2002, 09:56 PM

yes i have tried audigy 2 drivers already... so far with kx i have no longer had the squealing problom... i did what u said in that little tutorial and in speaker test i still get no sound from either speaker or subwoofer... :/

DallasStar · Dec 15, 2002, 10:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by RIV@NVX
Hasn't he said that he already tried Audigy2 Drivers?

Oh sorry, I only read half of the post

Necrosis · Dec 16, 2002, 02:32 PM

Two questions.

Does your motherboard have the 815 chipset on it, and do you have a 3COM eithernet card?

Renegade · Dec 16, 2002, 06:11 PM

dunno about the chipset and no to the eithernet card

RIV@NVX · Dec 16, 2002, 06:16 PM

This should help you

Necrosis · Dec 16, 2002, 07:05 PM

Hmm....

Would this by any chance be a Dell system?

Renegade · Dec 17, 2002, 12:24 AM

yes this is a dell system, it sux :/ was only thing i was able to get at the time so its better then nothing tho i guess...

also after having the kx drivers installed for a while i am still getting the squeal lockup problom :/

Renegade · Dec 17, 2002, 12:26 AM

for chipset it says intel 2501 using that program from the link provided

Necrosis · Dec 17, 2002, 01:17 AM

Dell systems seemed to be plagued with this problem. Your best bet is to make a post in the Creative forum since there is a number of visitors there that have had this problem. There is even a guide "I think" that may help you solve this. The symptom is known as SOD or Squeal of Death. I cannot remember the actions you need to take to fix this problem. However, I do remember reading Dell has released some bios updates which are specifically for your problem. You also may want to browse around in the Dell support forum for any updates.

Here is the address for Creative's news server.

news://news.creative.com

Necrosis · Dec 17, 2002, 01:22 AM

This bit of info. might also be of some help. Scroll down to see it.

http://www.3dsoundsurge.com/features...Week11Mar.html

Renegade · Dec 17, 2002, 12:19 PM

thanks for the help eveyone, i am going to try the drivers released by compaq that were on the site link in the last reply. i am also going to try to get the bios again, maybe dell realsed one for my system (they didn't have one when i tried the last time, about 2 months ago) i use a dell dimension xps b1000

the download for compaq's drivers will be going while i am at school so i will install them when i get home and see if it worked.

thx again for everyone's help

if this does not work i will post here again...

ajm786 · Dec 17, 2002, 07:53 PM

Update the BIOS. I think that is what Dell said to do if you got that issue.

Renegade · Dec 17, 2002, 10:06 PM

well the drivers from the link posted earlier were for sb live and did not work for my audigy, the bios from the link earlier was not for my system, and as of yet i still cannot find a bios update for my dimension xps b1000 so i still need help :/

Brian48 · Dec 19, 2002, 05:41 PM

When I had the original Audigy with my 8kha+, I experienced this problem too. None of the fixes worked and I eventually wounded up switching it out with my older Santa Cruz. Much to my surprise, this "squeal of death" still occured with the Santa Cruz (even after a clean reformat). This lead me to believe that there was something else wrong with the system.

For me, I fixed it by upping the voltage on my processor, which was NOT overclocked at the time. After exhaustively going over one area of the computer over another, I came to the conclusion that that the PSU was not regulating enough juice to the CPU when the system was stressed. Although this did not cause the machine to reboot or exhibit any of the usual symptoms associated with an underpowered PSU (which it wasn't - Antec 350w), it was enough to make it appear as if it was the sound card causing the problem. Bumping the voltage up by .05 seemed to have corrected all stability problems regardless of which card I used after that.

Necrosis · Dec 19, 2002, 08:57 PM

Hmm interesting...

I've seen quite a few Dells systems with meager power supplies in them. Renegade you might want to check the wattage on your supply.

Renegade · Dec 20, 2002, 12:06 AM

ok thanks, heh... how would i go about doing this? i have no idea how to increase the power supply...

ajm786 · Dec 20, 2002, 03:53 AM

You gotta buy a new one...

Necrosis · Dec 20, 2002, 04:07 AM

Check around your PS for a label and see what the wattage is on it. A friend of mine only had a 200 Watt. in her's. I was quite appalled.

Renegade · Dec 20, 2002, 06:06 AM

ok i will look and see what i can find...

Renegade · Dec 20, 2002, 10:15 PM

ok after talking with my uncle he explained some of the power things to me, based on how wall outlets work etc... i then checked the system specs in the manual dell sent with the system and it is indeed 200W :/

so rather then dump money into another sound card, i will first buy a new power supply... do you have any recommendations on which one i should look for? or something specific feature wise that it needs to include?

DallasStar · Dec 21, 2002, 12:41 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Renegade
ok after talking with my uncle he explained some of the power things to me, based on how wall outlets work etc... i then checked the system specs in the manual dell sent with the system and it is indeed 200W :/

so rather then dump money into another sound card, i will first buy a new power supply... do you have any recommendations on which one i should look for? or something specific feature wise that it needs to include?

I recommend an Antec, Enermax, or Sparkle. Preferrably 400 watts. 350 should be the bare minimum.

http://www.newegg.com/app/manufactor...alog=58&DEPA=1

Renegade · Dec 21, 2002, 03:13 AM

hmm, is this something i am going to have to order or is it something i can find at best buy or ciruct city?

Necrosis · Dec 21, 2002, 12:05 PM

You may not be able to just go out and purchase just any power supply. Dell sometimes uses specially keyed atx connectors so you have to use a power supply that has the same pin layout. I would recommend you borrow a PS off a friend and try it first. If that works than you can pick up whatever you want. However, if it does not PC & Power Cooling does sell special supplies for Dell systems.

reno · Dec 22, 2002, 04:43 PM

If you stick an ATX power supply in a Dell ATX connector, you WILL kill your motherboard. Replace your motherboard AND PSU, THAT is your best bet.

Dec 15, 2002, 03:47 PM	#1
Renegade DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 16 Rep Power: 0	Audigy 1 Gamer Squeal Lockup I am still getting the squaling lockup problom for windows xp and i can't figure out how to fix it. I got the drivers off a website i found that were apparently supposed to fix it. http://oui.com.br/nando/essays/t03audigy01.htm But for some reason i can't get them to work, i continue to get the error. here is what i have done: tried installing them using their setup files - didn't work tried uninstalling all sound drivers and programs, removed the card from device manager, rebooted, canceld windows automatic installation, then went to device manager, then update driver, chose from location and have disk, and directed it to the inf file in the extraction folder of the drivers package i got from that webpage. rebooted, still got lockup. i tried this with both the 377mb driver pack, and the 154mb driver pack. i then proceded to search websites for the audigy 2 drivers and happend upon this website and its thread regarding audigy 2 drivers on a audigy 1 card. i downloaded them and tried installing them through the setup file, and got the same error once again. i am thinking other people got this problom fixed as thats the impression that site i listed earlier gave me so its my assumption i am doing something wrong. I could really use some help with this and any help toward getting this fixed would be greatly appreciated, as i don't have money to go out and buy the audigy 2 card.

Dec 15, 2002, 04:49 PM	#2
RIV@NVX Freedom is a feature. Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Croatia, Rijeka Posts: 4,476 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	Full system config? __________________ -- Vedran

Dec 15, 2002, 05:10 PM	#4
RIV@NVX Freedom is a feature. Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Croatia, Rijeka Posts: 4,476 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	kX is what I wanted to suggest. You can use prologica if you want 5.1 surround setup. Here is a little guide written by Max M. >Yeah, maybe pseudo surround is what I want... Then maybe you should do something like this (just one of the pooppilion possible variations): 1. Open kX DSP (reset it to default if it is not). 2. Load "ProLogica" module ("add effect/plugin"->"surround") 3. Connect outputs of "10 Band EQ" to inputs of the "Prologica" (lot->Lt, rot->Rt) 4. Connect outputs of "Prologica" to "Epilog" inputs in following order: L -> out0 R -> out1 Ls -> out8 Rs -> out9 C -> out17 This gives you an "surround" when listening to stereo sounds. As for adding subwoofer to above setup you can do like this: 5. Load "Summ" plugin. 6. Connect outputs of "10 Band EQ" to any inputs of the "summ" (without disconnecting eq from prologica!) 7. Load "EQ Lowpass" 8. Connect output of "summ" to first input of "eq lowpass" 9. Set "EQ Lowpass"'s Freq to 120Hz and width to minimum (via "tweak")... (you can modify them later according to your taste) 10. Connect first output of lowpass to epilog's input "out18" That will copy bass sounds from left/right into subwoofer (but not "move/redirect" them...) Something like that... (yep, crazy thingy , phhh) Be carefull, /Max __________________ -- Vedran

Dec 15, 2002, 06:35 PM	#5
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Dec 16, 2002, 06:16 PM	#11
RIV@NVX Freedom is a feature. Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Croatia, Rijeka Posts: 4,476 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	This should help you __________________ -- Vedran

Dec 15, 2002, 05:00 PM	Thread Starter #3
Renegade DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 16 Rep Power: 0	windows xp p3 1ghz 384mb rd ram 40 gig hard drive audigy 1 gamer 5.1 geforce 2 64mb ^ that what u wanted? P.S. trying the KX drivers now, just tryin to figure out how to get sound out of the center speaker and subwoofer...

Dec 15, 2002, 09:56 PM	Thread Starter #7
Renegade DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 16 Rep Power: 0	yes i have tried audigy 2 drivers already... so far with kx i have no longer had the squealing problom... i did what u said in that little tutorial and in speaker test i still get no sound from either speaker or subwoofer... :/

Dec 16, 2002, 02:32 PM	#9
Necrosis HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Ohio Posts: 8,838 Rep Power: 131 System Specs	Two questions. Does your motherboard have the 815 chipset on it, and do you have a 3COM eithernet card?

Dec 16, 2002, 06:11 PM	Thread Starter #10
Renegade DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 16 Rep Power: 0	dunno about the chipset and no to the eithernet card

Dec 16, 2002, 07:05 PM	#12
Necrosis HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Ohio Posts: 8,838 Rep Power: 131 System Specs	Hmm.... Would this by any chance be a Dell system?

Dec 17, 2002, 12:24 AM	Thread Starter #13
Renegade DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 16 Rep Power: 0	yes this is a dell system, it sux :/ was only thing i was able to get at the time so its better then nothing tho i guess... also after having the kx drivers installed for a while i am still getting the squeal lockup problom :/

Dec 17, 2002, 12:26 AM	Thread Starter #14
Renegade DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 16 Rep Power: 0	for chipset it says intel 2501 using that program from the link provided

Dec 17, 2002, 01:17 AM	#15
Necrosis HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Ohio Posts: 8,838 Rep Power: 131 System Specs	Dell systems seemed to be plagued with this problem. Your best bet is to make a post in the Creative forum since there is a number of visitors there that have had this problem. There is even a guide "I think" that may help you solve this. The symptom is known as SOD or Squeal of Death. I cannot remember the actions you need to take to fix this problem. However, I do remember reading Dell has released some bios updates which are specifically for your problem. You also may want to browse around in the Dell support forum for any updates. Here is the address for Creative's news server. news://news.creative.com

Dec 17, 2002, 01:22 AM	#16
Necrosis HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Ohio Posts: 8,838 Rep Power: 131 System Specs	This bit of info. might also be of some help. Scroll down to see it. http://www.3dsoundsurge.com/features...Week11Mar.html

Dec 17, 2002, 12:19 PM	Thread Starter #17
Renegade DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 16 Rep Power: 0	thanks for the help eveyone, i am going to try the drivers released by compaq that were on the site link in the last reply. i am also going to try to get the bios again, maybe dell realsed one for my system (they didn't have one when i tried the last time, about 2 months ago) i use a dell dimension xps b1000 the download for compaq's drivers will be going while i am at school so i will install them when i get home and see if it worked. thx again for everyone's help if this does not work i will post here again...

Dec 17, 2002, 07:53 PM	#18
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Dec 17, 2002, 10:06 PM	Thread Starter #19
Renegade DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 16 Rep Power: 0	well the drivers from the link posted earlier were for sb live and did not work for my audigy, the bios from the link earlier was not for my system, and as of yet i still cannot find a bios update for my dimension xps b1000 so i still need help :/

Dec 19, 2002, 05:41 PM	#20
Brian48 DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 55 Rep Power: 0	When I had the original Audigy with my 8kha+, I experienced this problem too. None of the fixes worked and I eventually wounded up switching it out with my older Santa Cruz. Much to my surprise, this "squeal of death" still occured with the Santa Cruz (even after a clean reformat). This lead me to believe that there was something else wrong with the system. For me, I fixed it by upping the voltage on my processor, which was NOT overclocked at the time. After exhaustively going over one area of the computer over another, I came to the conclusion that that the PSU was not regulating enough juice to the CPU when the system was stressed. Although this did not cause the machine to reboot or exhibit any of the usual symptoms associated with an underpowered PSU (which it wasn't - Antec 350w), it was enough to make it appear as if it was the sound card causing the problem. Bumping the voltage up by .05 seemed to have corrected all stability problems regardless of which card I used after that.

Dec 19, 2002, 08:57 PM	#21
Necrosis HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Ohio Posts: 8,838 Rep Power: 131 System Specs	Hmm interesting... I've seen quite a few Dells systems with meager power supplies in them. Renegade you might want to check the wattage on your supply.

Dec 20, 2002, 12:06 AM	Thread Starter #22
Renegade DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 16 Rep Power: 0	ok thanks, heh... how would i go about doing this? i have no idea how to increase the power supply...

Dec 20, 2002, 04:07 AM	#24
Necrosis HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Ohio Posts: 8,838 Rep Power: 131 System Specs	Check around your PS for a label and see what the wattage is on it. A friend of mine only had a 200 Watt. in her's. I was quite appalled.

Dec 20, 2002, 06:06 AM	Thread Starter #25
Renegade DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 16 Rep Power: 0	ok i will look and see what i can find...

Dec 20, 2002, 10:15 PM	Thread Starter #26
Renegade DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 16 Rep Power: 0	ok after talking with my uncle he explained some of the power things to me, based on how wall outlets work etc... i then checked the system specs in the manual dell sent with the system and it is indeed 200W :/ so rather then dump money into another sound card, i will first buy a new power supply... do you have any recommendations on which one i should look for? or something specific feature wise that it needs to include?

Dec 21, 2002, 03:13 AM	Thread Starter #28
Renegade DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 16 Rep Power: 0	hmm, is this something i am going to have to order or is it something i can find at best buy or ciruct city?

Dec 21, 2002, 12:05 PM	#29
Necrosis HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Ohio Posts: 8,838 Rep Power: 131 System Specs	You may not be able to just go out and purchase just any power supply. Dell sometimes uses specially keyed atx connectors so you have to use a power supply that has the same pin layout. I would recommend you borrow a PS off a friend and try it first. If that works than you can pick up whatever you want. However, if it does not PC & Power Cooling does sell special supplies for Dell systems. Last edited by Necrosis; Dec 21, 2002 at 12:35 PM.

Dec 22, 2002, 04:43 PM	#30
reno Painlord of Ichor Join Date: May 2002 Location: bloinkin! Posts: 1,610 Rep Power: 0	fd If you stick an ATX power supply in a Dell ATX connector, you WILL kill your motherboard. Replace your motherboard AND PSU, THAT is your best bet.