How to make your Audigy Drivers into X-Fi Drivers

Widkidone · Aug 24, 2005, 06:22 PM

First i would thank Talus from TotalBattlefield2 http://www.totalbf2.com/

This is simple:

Simply download the drivers from here:
http://us.creative.com/support/downl...ame=Windows+XP

Then use WinRAR or WinZip to decompress the contents of the file to a directory on your hard drive.
e.g. c:\temp\X-Fi Drivers

Right-click on My Computer and select 'Manage'.

In the left pane of the window the comes up, select 'Device Manager'.

Scroll down on the right to 'Sound,video and game Controllers'.

Look for the entry for your card.
e.g. Creative SB Audigy

Right-click the entry and select 'Update Driver...'

Check off 'No, not this time', and hit 'Next'.

Check off 'Install from a list or specific location (Advanced)', and hit 'Next'.

Check 'Don't Search.I will choose the driver to install', and hit 'Next'.

Hit 'Have Disk...'

Click 'Browse', and browse to this subfolder where you decompressed the file earlier:
e.g. C:\temp\X-Fi Drivers\SBXF_PCDRV_LB_2_07_0003\Drivers\wdm

Then click 'Open' and the rest should install by itself.

Reboot when the computer asks you to.

jasonbourne · Aug 24, 2005, 06:39 PM

im sorry but what is the point of doing that

stormy13 · Aug 25, 2005, 09:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jasonbourne

im sorry but what is the point of doing that

It allows you to install the X-FI drivers available from Creative, to the older generations of cards.

Jitter · Aug 25, 2005, 09:37 PM

What kinda difference does it make, if any?

JohnMcClane · Aug 26, 2005, 08:25 AM

X-Fi has a completely new architecture (it doesn't use the 10kx chip anymore) - It's not very clever to install drivers that are written for your soundcard

-=Talus=- · Aug 26, 2005, 03:34 PM

It should be pointed out that this driver set includes brand new Audigy 1 and Audigy 2 drivers.

In my haste I failed to find another simple way of installing the drivers:

-go to the \Drivers\support\i386 subdirectory of the driver archive
-run ctzapxx.exe

Widkidone · Aug 26, 2005, 04:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -=Talus=-

It should be pointed out that this driver set includes brand new Audigy 1 and Audigy 2 drivers.

In my haste I failed to find another simple way of installing the drivers:

-go to the \Drivers\support\i386 subdirectory of the driver archive
-run ctzapxx.exe

How is this simpler that the way that you explained before:

Click 'Browse', and browse to this subfolder where you decompressed the file earlier:
e.g. C:\temp\X-Fi Drivers\SBXF_PCDRV_LB_2_07_0003\Drivers\wdm

-=Talus=- · Aug 26, 2005, 04:07 PM

Simply run that program instead of doing all of those steps through Device Manager.

I like doing things the complicated way, but some people don't

Robert McClelland · Aug 27, 2005, 06:44 AM

this should be a sticky

me going try thanks for tip.

Robert McClelland · Aug 27, 2005, 06:55 AM

http://us.creative.com/support/downl...ame=Windows+XP linkie dones't work hehe
So your staying we download this You have selected X-Fi Platinum and Windows XP? then go to what you said I try that later in afternoon.

PointBlank · Aug 27, 2005, 07:52 PM

Link is dead.

jasonbourne · Aug 27, 2005, 07:55 PM

so is there any kind of perfomance gain??

Robert McClelland · Aug 27, 2005, 09:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PointBlank

Link is dead.

You have selected X-Fi Platinum and Windows XP just chose what did and follow the steps. Oh my gosh this stuff is really loud I mean it. But some reason it still say audigy 2 in my audio console lol

As for preformce gain I really don't know it does sound alot louder

and cleaner.

Trinity · Aug 30, 2005, 06:39 AM

You could find them here
http://us.creative.com/support/downl...ame=Windows+XP
or http://us.creative.com/support/downloads/download.asp

against · Aug 30, 2005, 10:12 PM

This method does in fact work. Just installed the X-Fi Plat. WinXP drivers on my
old Audigy 1 Platinum, and it's working great. Not sure about any performance
improvements thus far. I am wondering if Creative is finally trying to get some
sort of unified driver package put together, and if this X-Fi package actually
contained new drivers for the older cards....

layziegtp · Aug 30, 2005, 11:05 PM

Yeah... so I did this on my Audigy2... drivers updated to 5.12.2.1143... Now my EAX console is broke. Is there any solution for this? Did I do something horribly wrong? Or should I just stick with my Audigy2 ZS drivers, and not try to mess with something I don't understand?

Thanks :P

against · Aug 31, 2005, 12:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by layziegtp

Yeah... so I did this on my Audigy2... drivers updated to 5.12.2.1143... Now my EAX console is broke. Is there any solution for this? Did I do something horribly wrong? Or should I just stick with my Audigy2 ZS drivers, and not try to mess with something I don't understand?

Thanks :P

All you really need now is the Creative Console App they just released.

I couldn't stand creative's bloated apps, but they seemed to have got it
right with their console.

Lelisevis · Aug 31, 2005, 01:24 AM

Ive managed to install the new driver too but ive also lost the EAX console and occasionaly the graphics equalizer. Im not to fussed but it'd be nice if someone finds a solution to post it. Anyone know how to remove all creative software bar the driver as it doesnt appear in add/remove programs.

layziegtp · Aug 31, 2005, 05:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by against

All you really need now is the Creative Console App they just released.

I couldn't stand creative's bloated apps, but they seemed to have got it
right with their console.

You're my hero right now. I didn't even know that existed, it's so much better than those bloated, slow applications.

I've got it down now I think. With my Audigy2 Platinum, I use the Audigy2 ZS drivers first, then update them with the XFi drivers, then install the Audio Console. Works great so far.

Just wondering... is there really a difference in sound quality/performance, etc. when installing the Xfi drivers, or is it just psychlogical? If there is... what makes them better?

Thanks again!!!

Blackboost · Aug 31, 2005, 02:04 PM

So far I didn't notice any imporvement at all over the A4 modded drivers from YouP. One thing worth mentioning is that I have never experienced any problems in BF2 at all (stuttering and the like), so I went back to the A4 drivers.

INSTG8R · Aug 31, 2005, 02:13 PM

Well I did the driver update and I too lost my EQ.the sound was much clearer and louder with the X-Fi's but I would rather have full control of my card so I am back to standard ZS drivers

cvalenzuela · Sep 4, 2005, 05:12 AM

The 3D upmixes are redifined, well thats to my perspective. CMSS1 sounds worse because of the weaker bass. CMSS2 was amplified with better bass and room acoustics, and stereo surround is just duplication. EAX3 and EAX4 sound slightly better and all the modded A4 apps do not work.

theonlybabyface · Sep 4, 2005, 07:30 AM

Everything works great for me??? Even all of my Audigy 4 software...

krvolok · Sep 4, 2005, 02:12 PM

My A4 appz ceased to work too - is there any solution for this already?

Robert McClelland · Sep 4, 2005, 11:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by krvolok

My A4 appz ceased to work too - is there any solution for this already?

works fine for me. Did you go deviced manger updated threw that way? You might have reinstaleld A4 software or repair it.

thomasabarnes · Sep 5, 2005, 04:45 AM

Ok, why dont you all be clear here?

What did y'all do to get the X-FI drivers to work?

Did you install PAX modded Audigy 4 Applications and driver, then install the X-FI Xtreme drivers via Device Manager driver update (or what?), then install the new Creative Console for the Audigy?

What exactly did you do to get the X-FI drivers and Audigy 4 modded apps (I assume) to work for you?

Can anybody direct us through this?

Widkidone · Sep 5, 2005, 04:50 AM

thomasabarnes you have to read the very first post. Its very clear.

thomasabarnes · Sep 5, 2005, 06:23 AM

Widkidone:

The 1st post explains how to update from Device Manager, but it doesnt clarify what driver you are updating nor what applications are already installed. With all the modded applications and drivers that can be used with the Audigy/Audigy2, Audigy 2 ZS, and so forth, it is unclear what apps and drivers are to be updated and work suucessfully.

Some have indicated that Audigy 4 apps dont work after updating with this X-Fi driver. Also, the X-FI chip is different than the 10Kx chips used in the Audigy and Audigy 2 sound cards. And because of that, some are unsure if updating an Audigy with the X-Fi drivers would work. So, I think it's a good idea to have a more informative post of how to use the X-FI driver with an Audigy sound card.

As it is, the 1st post doesnt mention some things as a person using modded apps and drivers. And I just think compehensive information and instructions will lesson the amount of questions by members viewing this thread and comprehensive information and instructions will give us a clearer idea of what to expect, since some of us are using modded apps and drivers.

dsdsdk · Sep 5, 2005, 12:23 PM

I tried both 1143 and 1161.. and all i did was run the setup.exe (got the drivers from station-drivers.com). My card is a Audigy 2 Value.
Driver installs fine!

These drivers infs do contain support for almost every soundcard...

and people, plz! dont think that by manually updating your driver you get the x-fi driver to run your audigy 2 card.. all you get is an updated driver for your card.

asfotn · Sep 8, 2005, 10:57 AM

Guys, could you tell me where I can find that new audio console ?

1) Currently I install PAX A4 Audigy mod in my Audigy 2 Plat, and overwriting the PAX A4 1.02 driver with the driver from the link in 1st thread. The result is so subtle, the difference between A4 mod and this new 'radical'

mod (sorry for the word, but I love somepart of the new sound itself somehow). I believe that the A4 mod is focusing on vocal incarnation but this new driver is focusing on environmental incarnation.
I've tested on music concert videos, video clips and movies ! The sound in video clips a little bit strange, the main role of sound is a little bit drowning with their environmental sound !!! But in movie and music concert videos, they are great man !
A little bit natural, the gap connections between your sattelite speakers, somehow have been replaced by the moving surround sound. I also somehow noticed the new sound of Bass in my woofer.

2) I also Install the driver overwriting the PAX A4 1.02 in my Audigy DE Firewire. For gaming I've found a big differences. The sound is more natural. Somehow If my ear weren't wrong this time, that you could feel the environment. Feels like you've drowned into the sound. The main sound object doesn't become the main role again but a little becoming the part of the sound environment itself.

3) Works great on Doom3 Ressurection of evil and original Doom3, also in Blood Rayne2. But problem with adventure game : Still Life. The game crash with a message.
But hear the message Feel the horrifying environment !!!

4) But somehow it doesn't work without a price, our convinient access to the Audigy controls have been sacrificed

The applications doesn't work.

Thanks for the thread guys. See ya..

Best Regards,
asfotn

/Hasta Siempre !/

Aug 24, 2005, 06:22 PM	#1
Widkidone DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: San Diego, Ca Posts: 711 Rep Power: 0	How to make your Audigy Drivers into X-Fi Drivers First i would thank Talus from TotalBattlefield2 http://www.totalbf2.com/ This is simple: Simply download the drivers from here: http://us.creative.com/support/downl...ame=Windows+XP Then use WinRAR or WinZip to decompress the contents of the file to a directory on your hard drive. e.g. c:\temp\X-Fi Drivers Right-click on My Computer and select 'Manage'. In the left pane of the window the comes up, select 'Device Manager'. Scroll down on the right to 'Sound,video and game Controllers'. Look for the entry for your card. e.g. Creative SB Audigy Right-click the entry and select 'Update Driver...' Check off 'No, not this time', and hit 'Next'. Check off 'Install from a list or specific location (Advanced)', and hit 'Next'. Check 'Don't Search.I will choose the driver to install', and hit 'Next'. Hit 'Have Disk...' Click 'Browse', and browse to this subfolder where you decompressed the file earlier: e.g. C:\temp\X-Fi Drivers\SBXF_PCDRV_LB_2_07_0003\Drivers\wdm Then click 'Open' and the rest should install by itself. Reboot when the computer asks you to. __________________ Case- Cooler Master ATC-201B-BXT Aluminum Case Power Supply- Antec 480w TrueBlue480 ATX-12V MX518 Mouse CPU- AMD Athlon 64 processor 4000+ (2.4GHz) Socket-939 Motherboard-K8N Neo2 Platinum 2 GB DDR (2 pcs 1GB) PC-3200 (400) OCZ Dual Channel Platinum Hard Drive- WD 74GB 8MB 10000rpm S-ATA WD740GD Sound Card- Creative SB Audigy 2 Zs Platinum CDRW- LG GCE-8525BI 52X32X52 CD-RW OS- Microsoft Windows XP Pro Edition w/SP2 Video-Radeon X850XT AGP 256MB

Aug 24, 2005, 06:39 PM	#2
jasonbourne DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: great yarmouth uk Posts: 1,082 Rep Power: 0	im sorry but what is the point of doing that __________________ http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y28...asonBourne.jpg

Aug 25, 2005, 09:37 PM	#4
Jitter HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 533 Rep Power: 0	What kinda difference does it make, if any? __________________ Sony Vaio PCV-RX670 P4 1.8ghz XP Pro SP2 1 GB PC2100 RAM ATI All in Wonder 9700 pro Audigy 2 ZS Aquamark ~29,500 3dMark03 ~ 5,000

Aug 27, 2005, 06:44 AM	#9
Robert McClelland PAX Tweaker, PAX Expert. Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Somewhere in Wood County Ohio Same Town :) Posts: 10,252 Rep Power: 193 System Specs	this should be a sticky me going try thanks for tip. __________________ "XTREME AUDIO IS CRAP!" "There no support for it. It's crapist card on face of the earth it should be throw into the sun" http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=2242746

Aug 27, 2005, 06:55 AM	#10
Robert McClelland PAX Tweaker, PAX Expert. Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Somewhere in Wood County Ohio Same Town :) Posts: 10,252 Rep Power: 193 System Specs	http://us.creative.com/support/downl...ame=Windows+XP linkie dones't work hehe So your staying we download this You have selected X-Fi Platinum and Windows XP? then go to what you said I try that later in afternoon. __________________ "XTREME AUDIO IS CRAP!" "There no support for it. It's crapist card on face of the earth it should be throw into the sun" http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=2242746

Aug 26, 2005, 08:25 AM	#5
JohnMcClane DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: May 2003 Location: Vienna, Austria Posts: 146 Rep Power: 0	X-Fi has a completely new architecture (it doesn't use the 10kx chip anymore) - It's not very clever to install drivers that are written for your soundcard

Aug 26, 2005, 03:34 PM	#6
-=Talus=- DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 4 Rep Power: 0	It should be pointed out that this driver set includes brand new Audigy 1 and Audigy 2 drivers. In my haste I failed to find another simple way of installing the drivers: -go to the \Drivers\support\i386 subdirectory of the driver archive -run ctzapxx.exe

Aug 26, 2005, 04:07 PM	#8
-=Talus=- DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 4 Rep Power: 0	Simply run that program instead of doing all of those steps through Device Manager. I like doing things the complicated way, but some people don't

Aug 27, 2005, 07:52 PM	#11
PointBlank DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Brooklyn,N.Y. Posts: 52 Rep Power: 0	Link is dead.

Aug 27, 2005, 07:55 PM	#12
jasonbourne DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: great yarmouth uk Posts: 1,082 Rep Power: 0	so is there any kind of perfomance gain?? __________________ http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y28...asonBourne.jpg

Aug 30, 2005, 06:39 AM	#14
Trinity DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 12 Rep Power: 0	You could find them here http://us.creative.com/support/downl...ame=Windows+XP or http://us.creative.com/support/downloads/download.asp

Aug 30, 2005, 10:12 PM	#15
against DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 17 Rep Power: 0	This method does in fact work. Just installed the X-Fi Plat. WinXP drivers on my old Audigy 1 Platinum, and it's working great. Not sure about any performance improvements thus far. I am wondering if Creative is finally trying to get some sort of unified driver package put together, and if this X-Fi package actually contained new drivers for the older cards....

Aug 30, 2005, 11:05 PM	#16
layziegtp DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 4 Rep Power: 0	Yeah... so I did this on my Audigy2... drivers updated to 5.12.2.1143... Now my EAX console is broke. Is there any solution for this? Did I do something horribly wrong? Or should I just stick with my Audigy2 ZS drivers, and not try to mess with something I don't understand? Thanks :P

Aug 31, 2005, 01:24 AM	#18
Lelisevis Howlin at the moon Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 1,663 Rep Power: 0	Ive managed to install the new driver too but ive also lost the EAX console and occasionaly the graphics equalizer. Im not to fussed but it'd be nice if someone finds a solution to post it. Anyone know how to remove all creative software bar the driver as it doesnt appear in add/remove programs.

Aug 31, 2005, 02:04 PM	#20
Blackboost -=[DHzer0point Author]=- Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 0 Rep Power: 0	So far I didn't notice any imporvement at all over the A4 modded drivers from YouP. One thing worth mentioning is that I have never experienced any problems in BF2 at all (stuttering and the like), so I went back to the A4 drivers.

Sep 4, 2005, 07:30 AM	#23
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Aug 31, 2005, 02:13 PM	#21
INSTG8R DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Canadian lost in Norway Posts: 527 Rep Power: 0	Well I did the driver update and I too lost my EQ.the sound was much clearer and louder with the X-Fi's but I would rather have full control of my card so I am back to standard ZS drivers __________________ Sys. Specs. Intel E6600@3.2\|Abit IP35 Pro\|2x1024 Crucial Ballistix PC8500 \|Sapphire HD4870 512\|Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 500G SATAII 16MB w/PRT\|SB X-Fi Fatality\|TT Tough Power 1200W\|TT Kandalf L.C.S.\|Samsung 204B 20" 5ms LCD\|Logitech G25\|Logitech G5\|Logitech G15\|Saitek X-52+Pro Rudder Pedals\|TrackIR w/Trackclip Pro 3DMark06

Sep 4, 2005, 05:12 AM	#22
cvalenzuela DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 1 Rep Power: 0	CMSS sounds different The 3D upmixes are redifined, well thats to my perspective. CMSS1 sounds worse because of the weaker bass. CMSS2 was amplified with better bass and room acoustics, and stereo surround is just duplication. EAX3 and EAX4 sound slightly better and all the modded A4 apps do not work.

Sep 4, 2005, 02:12 PM	#24
krvolok DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Slovenia Posts: 45 Rep Power: 0	My A4 appz ceased to work too - is there any solution for this already? __________________

Sep 5, 2005, 04:45 AM	#26
thomasabarnes Long Time ***** Friend Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: USA Posts: 1,373 Rep Power: 58 System Specs	Ok, why dont you all be clear here? What did y'all do to get the X-FI drivers to work? Did you install PAX modded Audigy 4 Applications and driver, then install the X-FI Xtreme drivers via Device Manager driver update (or what?), then install the new Creative Console for the Audigy? What exactly did you do to get the X-FI drivers and Audigy 4 modded apps (I assume) to work for you? Can anybody direct us through this? __________________ May a song always touch you in a positive way. Sonar 8.5.3 PE, Windows 7 Pro 64Bit, MOTU UltraLite MK3, 150 GB HDD, 250 GB HDD, 1 TB HDD 7200 rpm, My Music Production: Top 40, Contemporary Christian, Pop/Rock, Decent Rap, Inspirationals, and Children Songs

Sep 5, 2005, 04:50 AM	Thread Starter #27
Widkidone DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: San Diego, Ca Posts: 711 Rep Power: 0	thomasabarnes you have to read the very first post. Its very clear. __________________ Case- Cooler Master ATC-201B-BXT Aluminum Case Power Supply- Antec 480w TrueBlue480 ATX-12V MX518 Mouse CPU- AMD Athlon 64 processor 4000+ (2.4GHz) Socket-939 Motherboard-K8N Neo2 Platinum 2 GB DDR (2 pcs 1GB) PC-3200 (400) OCZ Dual Channel Platinum Hard Drive- WD 74GB 8MB 10000rpm S-ATA WD740GD Sound Card- Creative SB Audigy 2 Zs Platinum CDRW- LG GCE-8525BI 52X32X52 CD-RW OS- Microsoft Windows XP Pro Edition w/SP2 Video-Radeon X850XT AGP 256MB

Sep 5, 2005, 06:23 AM	#28
thomasabarnes Long Time ***** Friend Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: USA Posts: 1,373 Rep Power: 58 System Specs	Widkidone: The 1st post explains how to update from Device Manager, but it doesnt clarify what driver you are updating nor what applications are already installed. With all the modded applications and drivers that can be used with the Audigy/Audigy2, Audigy 2 ZS, and so forth, it is unclear what apps and drivers are to be updated and work suucessfully. Some have indicated that Audigy 4 apps dont work after updating with this X-Fi driver. Also, the X-FI chip is different than the 10Kx chips used in the Audigy and Audigy 2 sound cards. And because of that, some are unsure if updating an Audigy with the X-Fi drivers would work. So, I think it's a good idea to have a more informative post of how to use the X-FI driver with an Audigy sound card. As it is, the 1st post doesnt mention some things as a person using modded apps and drivers. And I just think compehensive information and instructions will lesson the amount of questions by members viewing this thread and comprehensive information and instructions will give us a clearer idea of what to expect, since some of us are using modded apps and drivers. __________________ May a song always touch you in a positive way. Sonar 8.5.3 PE, Windows 7 Pro 64Bit, MOTU UltraLite MK3, 150 GB HDD, 250 GB HDD, 1 TB HDD 7200 rpm, My Music Production: Top 40, Contemporary Christian, Pop/Rock, Decent Rap, Inspirationals, and Children Songs Last edited by thomasabarnes; Sep 5, 2005 at 06:33 AM.

Sep 5, 2005, 12:23 PM	#29
dsdsdk DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Denmark, CPH. Posts: 586 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	I tried both 1143 and 1161.. and all i did was run the setup.exe (got the drivers from station-drivers.com). My card is a Audigy 2 Value. Driver installs fine! These drivers infs do contain support for almost every soundcard... and people, plz! dont think that by manually updating your driver you get the x-fi driver to run your audigy 2 card.. all you get is an updated driver for your card. __________________ No more Kitty!

Sep 8, 2005, 10:57 AM	#30
asfotn DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 16 Rep Power: 0	New Audio Console ? Guys, could you tell me where I can find that new audio console ? 1) Currently I install PAX A4 Audigy mod in my Audigy 2 Plat, and overwriting the PAX A4 1.02 driver with the driver from the link in 1st thread. The result is so subtle, the difference between A4 mod and this new 'radical' mod (sorry for the word, but I love somepart of the new sound itself somehow). I believe that the A4 mod is focusing on vocal incarnation but this new driver is focusing on environmental incarnation. I've tested on music concert videos, video clips and movies ! The sound in video clips a little bit strange, the main role of sound is a little bit drowning with their environmental sound !!! But in movie and music concert videos, they are great man ! A little bit natural, the gap connections between your sattelite speakers, somehow have been replaced by the moving surround sound. I also somehow noticed the new sound of Bass in my woofer. 2) I also Install the driver overwriting the PAX A4 1.02 in my Audigy DE Firewire. For gaming I've found a big differences. The sound is more natural. Somehow If my ear weren't wrong this time, that you could feel the environment. Feels like you've drowned into the sound. The main sound object doesn't become the main role again but a little becoming the part of the sound environment itself. 3) Works great on Doom3 Ressurection of evil and original Doom3, also in Blood Rayne2. But problem with adventure game : Still Life. The game crash with a message. But hear the message Feel the horrifying environment !!! 4) But somehow it doesn't work without a price, our convinient access to the Audigy controls have been sacrificed The applications doesn't work. Thanks for the thread guys. See ya.. Best Regards, asfotn /Hasta Siempre !/