wdma_emu.inf FIX for Live!/Audigy/Audigy2

evil_one · Jan 3, 2003, 01:54 PM

EDIT: Obsolete and buggy. Use build 383 drivers instead. You can get them here:
http://snow.prohosting.com/eh4x0r/bin/evil383.rar

RIV@NVX · Jan 3, 2003, 02:50 PM

Sticky, previous thread unstuck.
Post anything support-related here.

BiGBrOwNPimpsta · Jan 3, 2003, 08:50 PM

evil one the driver install for that is confusing me.... could u help me? (audigy 1, xp pro sp1)

evil_one · Jan 3, 2003, 09:35 PM

which part is confusing?

well, whatever, here i go again:
for the 283 driver set: you put contents of wdma_evil_emu.rar in the drivers root directory (the one that contains win2k_xp, common folders and all that ctzapxx crap) and simply install the driver using the device manager, pointing it onto wdma_evil_emu.inf (don't use ctzapxx)

the 323 procedure is a bit more complicated:
first you must download creative's audigy2 driver update, that updates currently installed 283 to 323. i.e. here:
http://files.asia.creative.com/files...VL11021217.exe
you don't execute it, instead, extract it's contents using winzip or winrar or whatever, and copy the contents of the drivers directory over the 283 driver package, replacing existing files. from now on the procedure is the same as for the 283 set.

there will be some 283 leftovers in the common directory, but my inf won't use them.

ACidAgent · Feb 3, 2003, 04:38 AM

This worked for me thankfully, but i had to install, reboot and install again, now all the apps are working too!!! errrrmmm I'lm using a Audigy Platinum, thanks evil one

evil_one · Feb 13, 2003, 11:51 PM

uhm.. i haven't been busy by this lately, it turns out this is a more complicated matter.... but i have discovered something interesting. when spdif out is "broken" (no sound form the speakers) and you launch a dvd player and tell it to feed the ac3 stream through S/PDIF to an external decoder, the decoder actually DOES pick up the stream, and works perfectly... so the s/pdif out isn't really broken, i think it's just muted. creative probably did this on purpose. it is possible, that changing a single byte in the .dat files would remedy this situation, but i don't know where to start... the 252 .dat files are similar to the 283, but still there are many small changes. in other words, i'm stuck :P

~~Venum~~ · Feb 27, 2003, 12:09 AM

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~~Venum~~ · Feb 27, 2003, 12:11 AM

Sound Blaster Live! Platinum - DTT2500 Digital

errr.. there is an output digital sound (continuous noise 'chac chac chac chac' xDD) but dolby digital light (in dolby decoder) is off.

I´ve instaled .283 .323 .324 and wdma_evil_emu.rar, but I´ve the same noise problem.

Windows XP Sp1

Someone has reolved that??

thanxxxxx

PD: that only matter when i try to reproduce a DVD (5.1), or an AC3 sound, with normal sounds works fine (mp3, tv, cd-audio, etc)

evil_one · Feb 27, 2003, 01:17 AM

You mean that after installing .283 or newer WDMs you don't have any problems outputting digital PCM stream? If you'll give me your card's subsystem ID i'll try to do some digging. You can check it using i.e. WCPUID. Launch the program, click on View > Device List... and write down the value corresponding to the Audio Controller row and SubSystem column.

~~Venum~~ · Feb 27, 2003, 01:34 AM

here you are:

Bus Dev Fnc VendorID DeviceID Revision SubSystem IRQ Device Type
--- --- --- --------- --------- --------- --------- --- ---------------------
#0 #9 #0 1102h 0002h 08h 80401102h 18 Audio Controller

i can hear 'some kind of sound', it´s only noise (digital sound not decode??? :?, i don´t know), the dolby digital decode doesn´t activate (light is off).

The last drivers with I can hear 5.1 DVD, and AC3 sounds are:
3.0.0.11
With AudioHQ: 1.10.22 and Surround Mixer: 2.00.29

....but the system freeze regulary with i´m reproducing sound.

Very very thanks, and sorry for my English :P

////////////
EDIT
////////////

When I install wdma_evil_emu.rar , with .283 or .323 or .324, and try to reproduce DVD 5.1 or AC3 sound, there isn´t "scratchin" sound, the light is off too.... no sound...
With 'others' sounds works fine

thanks

evil_one · Feb 27, 2003, 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Venum
i can hear 'some kind of sound', it´s only noise (digital sound not decode??? :?, i don´t know), the dolby digital decode doesn´t activate (light is off).

PCM is not AC3. PCM is the type of digital sound data that is outputted through S/P DIF i.e. when playing an mp3 file. The purpose of my fix is to let owners of SB Live! series cards to output PCM sound through S/P DIF out with .283 and later drivers, as most cannot do that. Your card is the first I heard of that does output PCM, so I'll assing it's subsystem ID onto my SB Live! and verify if it'll work for me too. If it does, I'll look into the AC3 problems You are having. Right now, I don't have any problems with AC3, either with or without the fix.

~~Venum~~ · Feb 27, 2003, 02:54 PM

ok ok, i was wrong.
thats true, im only have to patch (with ctcomp.exe) folder driver, ...install the apps, and all works great, except that the dolby decoder fail, by this way, i cant reproduce DVD (dolby digital sound), and ac3...

very thanks

~~Venum~~ · Feb 28, 2003, 09:22 AM

I think that here is the problem:

Extract of AudioHQ/Device Controls .......... HELP: AC3

Code:

Configuring Dolby Digital Decoder settings

If your music or movie supports Dolby Digital (AC-3) decoding, you can use your audio card to decode the signal to your speakers.
To use your audio card for Dolby Digital (AC-3) decoding

1.	On the Decoder tab, in the Decoder Options box, click the Dolby Digital (AC-3) Decode option to select it.
2.	To limit the range of the loudest to softest signal, click the Dynamic Range Compression check box to select it. If, however, you would like to experience the full range of Dolby Digital sound, click this check box to deselect it.
3.	To enjoy the Dolby Pro Logic effect, click the Dolby Pro Logic check box to select it.

4.	To enjoy the Dolby Digital EX effect, click the Dolby Digital EX check box to select it.
5	To use an external decoder for Dolby Digital (AC-3) decoding or DTS Digital Out, click the SPDIF Passthrough option to select it. The compressed AC-3 SPDIF signal will be passed through the Digital Out jack of your audio card to the external decoder.

Note

For the best results, Dolby Digital EX should only be used with movie soundtracks recorded with Dolby Digital EX.

Copyright © 1998-2002. Creative Technology, Ltd.

I think my sound blaster is trying to decode AC-3 Signal, I cant configure the 5 point, because i dont have the Decoder Tab, Can i modifiy this settings throught Windows Registry settings????

Thanks

Oscar · Mar 1, 2003, 08:55 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Venum
Sound Blaster Live! Platinum - DTT2500 Digital

errr.. there is an output digital sound (continuous noise 'chac chac chac chac' xDD) but dolby digital light (in dolby decoder) is off.

I´ve instaled .283 .323 .324 and wdma_evil_emu.rar, but I´ve the same noise problem.

Windows XP Sp1

Someone has reolved that??

thanxxxxx

PD: that only matter when i try to reproduce a DVD (5.1), or an AC3 sound, with normal sounds works fine (mp3, tv, cd-audio, etc)

http://www.hardwareheaven.com/showthre...9878#post69878

evil_one · Mar 1, 2003, 11:54 PM

I've beaten the crap out of my live's EEPROM chip (it was incooperative), so i won't be able to check anything until monday.

~~Venum~~ · Mar 3, 2003, 11:47 PM

For my Sound Blaster Live Platinum! and DTT2500D better drivers and apps are:

Apps: Compaq Live! 252
Drivers: Official driverpack (July/02)

evil_one · Mar 12, 2003, 12:57 AM

well, i've tried assinging that device id to two different sb live's, one player 1024 and one player 5.1. no luck, still no digital output sound.
whatever, i'm dumping that piece o' creative crap and getting an Aureon Space :P my live lived through too many mods, and has started falling apart :P (tracks are comming off the pcb, i kinda overheated it with my 45W soldering iron...) + the gameport/midi out doesn't work anymore and the EMU10K1 no loner has eeprom communication pins (i was having good fun knocking off some chips, caps and resistors off to see what would happen ;p not very creative... but fun huhuh

i even ripped off a chunk of the pcb :P and the card still works lol. wonder if it still would without the ac'97 codec... i'll chceck that later heheheh, when i get a replacement.... i'd die without Children of Bodom <if you wanna check 'em out i'd recommend Bed of Razors or Every Time I Die. Melodic Metal with classical influences, especially in their first two albums. www.cobhc.com>)
So i think you can expect to hear from me again.... this time moddin' Envy24HT drivers

i already have some nice ideas...

Oscar · Mar 12, 2003, 03:22 AM

Thanks for trying, *the* evil one. I am sure that the whole community really appreciates what you have contributed

I am moving away from the Triple C (Crappy Creative Camp) myself, as well. Let us know how Terratec Aureon/VIA Envy24 is treating ya

XStoneX · Mar 17, 2003, 08:42 PM

Hmm.

Is there anybody outside who can help me with my problem? It's always the same - like this one from "Venum" - crackling sound with the internal DVD ---> Audigy 1 S/PDIF connector and an external decoder (Cambridge Soundworks DTT2500). But I use the Audigy 1.

Maybe there is a working patch outside?

Please help me!

THX for all answers

XStoneX

evil_one · Mar 17, 2003, 10:01 PM

be sure to turn off ac3 decode in surround mixer/enable spdif passthrough in AudioHQ. make sure you're using the right (not as in left and right :P) spdif out, as the audigy has got uhm... 4 of them? either 3 or 4 :P the right one can be found on pin 17 (signal) and 18 (ground, any other ground will suffice too) of the audio extension connector (the large 40 pin thing you connect the 'drive to). don't know wich one is "the right one" on the yellow "digital out" on the back of the card or on the 'drive as i don't use them. you can whip up a cable with a female RCA on one side and 2 pin pin-header connector on the other for a couple cents or just salvage the neccesary parts out of some crappy RCA cable and an old computer case or whatever that has the needed connectors :P
also, try running both the pc and the AC3 decoding part from the same wall outlet. and do try different drivers, like .253, .283, 323 and KX Project (KX are excellent for diagnostics, as everything can be configured according to needs regardless of the card's model)

heatz · May 10, 2003, 02:59 PM

If I get my Sound working by using CTZAP (update patches makes sound cut out) i lose my remote control.. If i dont use ctzap I dont get sound, my remote control works

WHen i Dont use CTZAP it calls the Card

And Sound Blaster Audigy Audio Processor
when i use ctzap it calls it SB Audigy 2

i keep reading on creatives site to use remote control manager...
but there is none?

Oscar · Jun 7, 2003, 09:15 PM

Creative has released a digital out fix for SB Live! 5.1 @ http://files.americas.creative.com/D...RVL2030530.exe

Jan 3, 2003, 01:54 PM	#1
evil_one DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 109 Rep Power: 0	something interesting for Live!/Audigy/2 owners EDIT: Obsolete and buggy. Use build 383 drivers instead. You can get them here: http://snow.prohosting.com/eh4x0r/bin/evil383.rar Last edited by evil_one; Jun 29, 2003 at 01:00 AM.

Jan 3, 2003, 02:50 PM	#2
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Jan 3, 2003, 08:50 PM	#3
BiGBrOwNPimpsta HH's #1 Hustla and Pimp Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: The Dirty Dot Posts: 7,706 Rep Power: 105 System Specs	evil one the driver install for that is confusing me.... could u help me? (audigy 1, xp pro sp1) __________________ Sound Blaster X-Fi Xtreme Music \| Logitech Z-5500 THX 5.1 Surround Sound Speakers \| 2 Lite-On 20x S-ATA Burners \| Logitech G700 Mouse \| Logitech MX5500 Bluetooth Keyboard

Feb 3, 2003, 04:38 AM	#5
ACidAgent DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 1 Rep Power: 0	It works This worked for me thankfully, but i had to install, reboot and install again, now all the apps are working too!!! errrrmmm I'lm using a Audigy Platinum, thanks evil one

Feb 27, 2003, 01:34 AM	#10
~~Venum~~ Banned Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 8 Rep Power: 0	here you are: Bus Dev Fnc VendorID DeviceID Revision SubSystem IRQ Device Type --- --- --- --------- --------- --------- --------- --- --------------------- #0 #9 #0 1102h 0002h 08h 80401102h 18 Audio Controller i can hear 'some kind of sound', it´s only noise (digital sound not decode??? :?, i don´t know), the dolby digital decode doesn´t activate (light is off). The last drivers with I can hear 5.1 DVD, and AC3 sounds are: 3.0.0.11 With AudioHQ: 1.10.22 and Surround Mixer: 2.00.29 ....but the system freeze regulary with i´m reproducing sound. Very very thanks, and sorry for my English :P //////////// EDIT //////////// When I install wdma_evil_emu.rar , with .283 or .323 or .324, and try to reproduce DVD 5.1 or AC3 sound, there isn´t "scratchin" sound, the light is off too.... no sound... With 'others' sounds works fine thanks Last edited by Venum; Feb 27, 2003 at 01:30 PM.

Jan 3, 2003, 09:35 PM	Thread Starter #4
evil_one DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 109 Rep Power: 0	which part is confusing? well, whatever, here i go again: for the 283 driver set: you put contents of wdma_evil_emu.rar in the drivers root directory (the one that contains win2k_xp, common folders and all that ctzapxx crap) and simply install the driver using the device manager, pointing it onto wdma_evil_emu.inf (don't use ctzapxx) the 323 procedure is a bit more complicated: first you must download creative's audigy2 driver update, that updates currently installed 283 to 323. i.e. here: http://files.asia.creative.com/files...VL11021217.exe you don't execute it, instead, extract it's contents using winzip or winrar or whatever, and copy the contents of the drivers directory over the 283 driver package, replacing existing files. from now on the procedure is the same as for the 283 set. there will be some 283 leftovers in the common directory, but my inf won't use them.

Feb 13, 2003, 11:51 PM	Thread Starter #6
evil_one DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 109 Rep Power: 0	uhm.. i haven't been busy by this lately, it turns out this is a more complicated matter.... but i have discovered something interesting. when spdif out is "broken" (no sound form the speakers) and you launch a dvd player and tell it to feed the ac3 stream through S/PDIF to an external decoder, the decoder actually DOES pick up the stream, and works perfectly... so the s/pdif out isn't really broken, i think it's just muted. creative probably did this on purpose. it is possible, that changing a single byte in the .dat files would remedy this situation, but i don't know where to start... the 252 .dat files are similar to the 283, but still there are many small changes. in other words, i'm stuck :P

Feb 27, 2003, 12:09 AM	#7
~~Venum~~ Banned Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 8 Rep Power: 0	.

Feb 27, 2003, 12:11 AM	#8
~~Venum~~ Banned Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 8 Rep Power: 0	Sound Blaster Live! Platinum - DTT2500 Digital errr.. there is an output digital sound (continuous noise 'chac chac chac chac' xDD) but dolby digital light (in dolby decoder) is off. I´ve instaled .283 .323 .324 and wdma_evil_emu.rar, but I´ve the same noise problem. Windows XP Sp1 Someone has reolved that?? thanxxxxx PD: that only matter when i try to reproduce a DVD (5.1), or an AC3 sound, with normal sounds works fine (mp3, tv, cd-audio, etc)

Feb 27, 2003, 01:17 AM	Thread Starter #9
evil_one DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 109 Rep Power: 0	You mean that after installing .283 or newer WDMs you don't have any problems outputting digital PCM stream? If you'll give me your card's subsystem ID i'll try to do some digging. You can check it using i.e. WCPUID. Launch the program, click on View > Device List... and write down the value corresponding to the Audio Controller row and SubSystem column.

Feb 27, 2003, 02:54 PM	#12
~~Venum~~ Banned Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 8 Rep Power: 0	ok ok, i was wrong. thats true, im only have to patch (with ctcomp.exe) folder driver, ...install the apps, and all works great, except that the dolby decoder fail, by this way, i cant reproduce DVD (dolby digital sound), and ac3... very thanks

Mar 1, 2003, 11:54 PM	Thread Starter #15
evil_one DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 109 Rep Power: 0	I've beaten the crap out of my live's EEPROM chip (it was incooperative), so i won't be able to check anything until monday.

Mar 3, 2003, 11:47 PM	#16
~~Venum~~ Banned Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 8 Rep Power: 0	For my Sound Blaster Live Platinum! and DTT2500D better drivers and apps are: Apps: Compaq Live! 252 Drivers: Official driverpack (July/02)

Mar 12, 2003, 12:57 AM	Thread Starter #17
evil_one DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 109 Rep Power: 0	well, i've tried assinging that device id to two different sb live's, one player 1024 and one player 5.1. no luck, still no digital output sound. whatever, i'm dumping that piece o' creative crap and getting an Aureon Space :P my live lived through too many mods, and has started falling apart :P (tracks are comming off the pcb, i kinda overheated it with my 45W soldering iron...) + the gameport/midi out doesn't work anymore and the EMU10K1 no loner has eeprom communication pins (i was having good fun knocking off some chips, caps and resistors off to see what would happen ;p not very creative... but fun huhuh i even ripped off a chunk of the pcb :P and the card still works lol. wonder if it still would without the ac'97 codec... i'll chceck that later heheheh, when i get a replacement.... i'd die without Children of Bodom <if you wanna check 'em out i'd recommend Bed of Razors or Every Time I Die. Melodic Metal with classical influences, especially in their first two albums. www.cobhc.com>) So i think you can expect to hear from me again.... this time moddin' Envy24HT drivers i already have some nice ideas...

Mar 12, 2003, 03:22 AM	#18
Oscar DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: GVA, Canada Posts: 47 Rep Power: 0	Thanks for trying, the evil one. I am sure that the whole community really appreciates what you have contributed I am moving away from the Triple C (Crappy Creative Camp) myself, as well. Let us know how Terratec Aureon/VIA Envy24 is treating ya

Mar 17, 2003, 08:42 PM	#19
XStoneX DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 1 Rep Power: 0	Audigy Platinum eX & SW DTT2500 DD5.1 Hmm. Is there anybody outside who can help me with my problem? It's always the same - like this one from "Venum" - crackling sound with the internal DVD ---> Audigy 1 S/PDIF connector and an external decoder (Cambridge Soundworks DTT2500). But I use the Audigy 1. Maybe there is a working patch outside? Please help me! THX for all answers XStoneX

Mar 17, 2003, 10:01 PM	Thread Starter #20
evil_one DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 109 Rep Power: 0	be sure to turn off ac3 decode in surround mixer/enable spdif passthrough in AudioHQ. make sure you're using the right (not as in left and right :P) spdif out, as the audigy has got uhm... 4 of them? either 3 or 4 :P the right one can be found on pin 17 (signal) and 18 (ground, any other ground will suffice too) of the audio extension connector (the large 40 pin thing you connect the 'drive to). don't know wich one is "the right one" on the yellow "digital out" on the back of the card or on the 'drive as i don't use them. you can whip up a cable with a female RCA on one side and 2 pin pin-header connector on the other for a couple cents or just salvage the neccesary parts out of some crappy RCA cable and an old computer case or whatever that has the needed connectors :P also, try running both the pc and the AC3 decoding part from the same wall outlet. and do try different drivers, like .253, .283, 323 and KX Project (KX are excellent for diagnostics, as everything can be configured according to needs regardless of the card's model)

May 10, 2003, 02:59 PM	#21
heatz DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 1 Rep Power: 0	remote control not working If I get my Sound working by using CTZAP (update patches makes sound cut out) i lose my remote control.. If i dont use ctzap I dont get sound, my remote control works WHen i Dont use CTZAP it calls the Card And Sound Blaster Audigy Audio Processor when i use ctzap it calls it SB Audigy 2 i keep reading on creatives site to use remote control manager... but there is none? __________________ Damn Internet..... Which Damn Key is It I need to chat with SysOp

Jun 7, 2003, 09:15 PM	#22
Oscar DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: GVA, Canada Posts: 47 Rep Power: 0	Creative has released a digital out fix for SB Live! 5.1 @ http://files.americas.creative.com/D...RVL2030530.exe