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MadHowdi · May 14, 2007, 12:56 AM

Hi Eck,

i played around and checked the Virtual Theater options for anything similar to "white noise" or "play tone settings" but no way to swap to some nice sound.All the other settings seems to work fine.Could you check your hdd or dvds if you could find those upgrades?Can we compare file-sizes of those exe installers?

There are two folders inside the Sensaura main directory:
"Headphone Theater Upgrade"
containing: VirtualizerPanel.exe,VirtualizerPanel.chm

i wonder why its called "Headphone Theater upgrade" and not simple "Headphone Theater".Do i miss maybe files of the first upgrade release?!

"Virtual Ear"
containing the Virtual Ear files...

The filesizes are:
HeadphoneTheater_V112.exe = 1.852.412kb
VirtualEar3_V107.exe = 7.970.692kb

I used the HP 5.12.01.3663 driver and did it exactly the way you recommended.Replaced the swdm.sys of the 3663 driver by the xxx.4520 driver sys and installed.

Just checked the ASUS 3663 driver and compared it with the ASUS CD driver version.They both contain same Win2k,WinXP drivers.Only difference is,that the Driver CD version also contains Linux readme.txt and NT4.0 SoundMAX audio driver.

...strange...

CDsDontBurn · May 14, 2007, 01:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by compunoob

Is there anyway to get just the drive itself without the sound card in the USA?

are you talking about the break-out box that has the RCA, MIDI, and all those other connections?

if so, i have one that i'm kinda sorta not really using

.

i even have the cable that goes with it.

i'm not using it except for the purpose of it covering up an empty drive bay that i don't have the front panel cover for it. so, if you can provide me with a front panel cover for a Thermal Take Xaser II case.....yea

EDIT:
OMG, i just noticed how old this thread is. forget my post....in fact, delete my post!

Eck · May 14, 2007, 06:31 PM

Yep, those are the exact same file names, version numbers, and file sizes that I have.

So you have the correct programs and of course, hopefully, the serial numbers for both of them.

You seem to have everything taken care of. Now you can go ahead and have fun with things.

You'll probably notice, if you are a fan of midi music, that the included midi support is okay but nothing to write home about. It's better than non-creative soundcards offer today though. I used to install a full version of Yamaha s-YXG50 Version 4 for XP to get much better midi playback. The Roland Virtual Sound Canvas VSC-1 with the downloaded update for XP was something else I used at times.

An easier to find option is Synthfont. That fellow has created a pretty good Soundfont system for non-Creative soundcards. Through the use of Maple Midi Tools you could likely pipe it in and out through other midi type software programs. What's nice is you can set Synthfont to use just about any downloaded soundfont bank so you can enjoy excellent midi quality with any soundcard. But what comes with SoundMAX isn't bad for the occasional midi song playback. I don't know how much you're into that type of thing.

I don't know. I think I remember that the test within SoundMAX control panel was either White Noise of music and the test within one of the plugins was different or vice versa. Just not sure. As long as your playback and effects are working I think you're all right.

Have fun!

MadHowdi · May 16, 2007, 02:48 AM

Hi Eck,i do understand if you dont want to hook onto this old technic anymore and discontinue checking this thread.For me its great to have found someone like you to talk to since i love my XP M 2600 and am glad my A7V880 works relatively perfect now.Great board in the end!There are still little thinks i need to take a closer look like the RAID which is believed to cause trouble above 200MHz FSB with AGP/PCI in Bios set to asynchronous.But since i dont have any SATA drives in use, i dont really care

One thing which i like to ask you is about what experiences you have with SoundMAX 4 drivers.I talked to the ASUS support hotline today and found out about some newer AD1888 drivers like the 5.12.01.5290/5410.Thing is,they are SoundMAX 4 and dont get along with Sensaura Virtual Theater and Ear plugins.Theyre not even accessible.Question is,what was going on in that time?They release drivers like SoundMAX 3 Cadenza for AD1888 (A7V880) and then some years later release SoundMAX 4 drivers with totally different panel outlook and dont mention those Sensaura features anymore but still recommend those drives for A7V880.If you can tell me anything about SoundMAX 4 i would be glad cause i am trying a intense testing session tomorrow afternoon in what way those drivers work with Cadenza software and Sensaura upgrades.Do you have any idea why they dumped and discontinued those SoundMAX 3 Cadenza drivers?The SoundMAX 4 drivers are much smaller (if you compare size of those swmd.sys files).

BR
Mad

Eck · May 16, 2007, 04:50 AM

From what I've seen around the web, and I did keep tabs on things while I was using that board, the last driver set for a via chipset board and the SoundMAX AD1888 codec was the 3663 that you already have installed. The only improvement upon that was that one workaround for various problems that was solved by substituting that one file that you have already done.

Any further drivers were only produced for boards with Intel chipsets because just about all the Via boards began to be built with the Realtek audio chip instead.

Since encorporating Sensaura is not just a drop in process for the WDM driver model, as it had been in the 9x days with the VXD driver model, no longer having Sensaura provide updated software that is compatible with newer chipsets and soundboards made it impossible to include. Sensaura used to provide the software and then the card manufacturers would incorporate it into the drivers. For this reason, companies such as AudioTrak, makers of the Prodigy soundcard series, switched to the only other non-Creative option for DirectSound 3D EAX. That is QSound Labs.

Many soundcard manufacturers decided not to make an arrangement with QSound Labs. M-Audio, which had been incorporating Sensaura into its drivers, just stopped making driver updates, for example. Realtek kept using the older versions of Sensaura, and have alternated between removing Sensaura support and putting it back as bugs would occur with the interaction of the old Sensaura versions and the newer drivers.

Of course the reason for not having any newer Sensaura versions to work with is that Creative bought the company! Many Sensaura developers were kept on by Creative and their newer driver sets incorporate many Sensaura features. In fact, some files still have not been renamed so the system will detect that Sensaura is installed when using Creative cards. Their latest models include Sensaura in the list of features.

With the advent of Windows Vista, this is all moot as their is no longer Direct Sound 3D with the exception of OpenAL in hardware with supported soundcards or software Direct Sound 3D as provided by Creative Alchemy on X-Fi cards.

I wouldn't think that the driver sets including SoundMAX 4.0 will work at all on the A7V880 with its Via chipset. You can read about SoundMAX versions on their website, but that newer technology must come with a new motherboard purchase, I'm afraid.

There's only so much you can optimize using the tiny motherboard audio chipsets anyway. I think the main enhancements available in SoundMAX 4 were involving microphone use, and only if you purchased the Analog Devices SuperBeam and its related software. So I really don't think you're missing much. In fact you're probably better off if you play EAX 1 and EAX 2 enhanced games by using SoundMAX Cadenza and SoundMAX 3.0 as that has the Sensaura stuff. And if you like headphone listening, nothing has ever beaten Sensaura Virtual Ear.

Not much more to say about all this. You've got the best available for you installed and working. I've mentioned some midi enhancements you could try if they interest you. Time to move on and start using your system.

Edit - Oh! To mention my own problems lately, my Gigabyte NVida GeForce 6600GT had its fan conk out. My ATI Radeon x850PRO has been in use for years and is still going strong, but the silly NVidia card blew out after only being used for a couple of weeks about a year ago and now for less than a week. This, with never changing default driver settings and no overclocking. I had just finished setting up Vista on my 2nd computer (I bought a second copy and also bought Office 2007 Home and Student so I could be all legal). I had switched over to NVidia to see the vaunted superiority in Linux, which I dual-boot with.

Rats! I went ahead and ordered a PNY GeForce 6600GT for just 99 bucks and also sent out the RMA to Gigabyte. Well, I'll end up with 2 working cards I hope.

Meanwhile, I needed to move my box with the ATI card back in. It has both Vista and OpenSuSE Linux 10.2, but I'm not booting into Vista on it because it has, shall I say, a funny version of Office 2007 on it and I just don't want to continue playing that game. I also had experimented with some codec software on it. I just don't want to bother formatting at the moment, having just spent a week putting all my stuff onto Vista on my now videocard less box. Fuming now!

I survived a Novell Kernel update and a reinstall of the ATI fglrx drivers, as well as much of KDE being updated from the SuSE Build Service and all is well. I even put the latest replacement for Compiz/Beryl, OpenCompositing, on it. Pretty cool looking! Cyberorg had put his new SuSE install method up the day I was going through all this, so at least I had something fun and new to play around with. It doesn't yet include as much as Beryl, but includes some stuff I wasn't using with Beryl. I'm just stuck with the default Gnome window decoration in KDE because they haven't yet included the newer window decorator replacements for Aguamarine and Emerald onto the SuSE Cybororg Build Service repo yet and I will not play with compiling git versions the command line way. It's GUI or bust for me! I am a recent Linux Newbie, after all. I'm kind of afraid of that command line stuff. Barely need to touch it in SuSE, what with YaST and all. Only the ATI drivers and that DVD decoder needed me to play with the terminal much so far. Nice!

I'll probably do new formatted installs of both Vista and SuSE on both computers (only one of them at first, and probably won't touch the other for a long time) when I get the NVidia cards. I could try just sticking the new card into the Vista machine that had it before, but I foresee much Windows difficulties unless I format and start fresh. I'll have the PNY card much sooner, and it's a differently designed card than the Gigabyte. Don't think things will go to smoothely that way! I wish I had uninstalled the driver before removing the card, but I was just too pissed off to think of that at the time. I foresee Vista blowing up if I just stick in the different card. This one has the VIVO connector too, unlike the Gigabyte. Yeah, better just format!

Eck · May 16, 2007, 05:04 PM

On the other hand...

Better idea: New card, redo this computer that has the ATI card now. Fixed or replaced card that comes later, just slap it into the computer that had the same card with the failed fan and, since Vista has that card all setup already, no need to reinstall the whole thing!

See what a calm thinking structure can do when you're not annoyed and stressed out?

And if anyone's wondering, that Office 2007 comment relates to yeah, an Enterprise install. However Microsoft had sent me the Enterprise trial version anyway as I had been in the beta program. So what I did by installing the real version instead really wasn't that bad. It's just that the day I went out and bought the retail version I got a Microsoft email letting me know the trial time had expired. So it seems I did just the right thing at just the right time. And it is pretty conveniant that I'll be formatting this thing when the new NVidia card comes, probably tomorrow, and won't need to mess with replacing that Enterprise version (that has me actually as a Microsoft employee!) with the Home and Student. Not sure how that would have worked out as their programs usually don't allow a downgrade. The only parts I had installed were the same programs that come with Home and Student (don't use Outlook or any of the other stuff), but any retail key would have been a downgrade.

And if you're wondering, "why not a 7600GT," that's because this AthlonXP would have held back most of the benefits of that over the less costly 6600GT. No real benefit for the higher price. Someday when I upgrade the motherboard it'll have PCIe so that's when I splurge for the better videocard.

MadHowdi · May 18, 2007, 09:47 AM

Hijackthis found some unknown spyware on my computer.Can someone help me?
The hijackthis.log is:

Code:

Logfile of HijackThis v1.99.1 
Scan saved at 10:08:14, on 18.05.2007 
Platform: Windows Vista Ultimate Edition 
MSIE: Internet Explorer v7.00 SP2
 
Running processes: 
C:\WINDOWS\System32\smss.exe 
C:\WINDOWS\system32\winlogon.exe 
C:\WINDOWS\system32\services.exe 
C:\WINDOWS\system32\lsass.exe 
C:\WINDOWS\system32\Ati2evxx.exe 
C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost.exe 
C:\WINDOWS\System32\svchost.exe 
C:\WINDOWS\system32\spoolsv.exe 
C:\WINDOWS\system32\Ati2evxx.exe 
C:\WINDOWS\Explorer.EXE 
C:\WINDOWS\Vista.EXE

muhaaaaa better stick to my be-loved Win2k LOL

Eck · May 18, 2007, 04:51 PM

Heh, heh, very funny (NOT). Nice try though. Maybe it's my mood.

Sure, Windows 2000 is stable and with all the updates can be like XP without the bloat. However, like I said, no security updates or any other fixes will be made for it anymore. Personally, if I didn't like XP or Vista I'd run 98SE with the Unofficial Auto-Patcher for Windows 98SE, 98SE2ME and 98MP10 from the msfn.org forum. That combo actually has all security updates as of now, not when Microsoft support ended, because the guru's over there adapt new Microsoft XP/Vista/Internet Explorer security fixes so they'll vwork on 98SE. Windows 2000 has an unofficial Auto-Patcher too, but that just gives you what's available from Microsoft which from now on will be nothing.

Security is importent, and not just viruses and trojans but also holes in the browser and operating system that are no longer being fixed on Windows 2000.

I also like Vista. I don't even want to go back to XP since getting used to it. Linux, of course, beats them all. Somehow Linux has had the advanced security copied now by Microsoft for decades. User folders and upgrading privilages for processes needing root privilages is a Linux thing. Now Vista has that. I wonder if Linus will sue Microsoft for copying his intellectual property? And Aero looks like a dumbed down Compiz with less features. Maybe they should get sued for that too? Funny that Linux can do all this with computer hardware from 1995 but Microsoft needs today's processors and mega memory systems. I guess they didn't steal enough of Linus's ideas?

I do thing we need to end posting here as no one's discussing Audigy 2 ZS Platinum drives, or even audio anymore.

MadHowdi · Jun 19, 2007, 08:50 PM

Hi Eck,

sure Vista has some cool modern graphic,multimedia features but 10 years as a windows system admin dealing with lots of different win problems IMHO theres only one reliable,fast system...Win2k

ohh please check your PM box mate

Eck · Jun 20, 2007, 09:18 PM

Thanks for the PM material! That motherboard is just sitting in a box for now but someday I might want to use it again and that "info" sure would be fun to checkout.

I wonder if they have "info" regarding the Virtual Headphone Theater as well? I'm almost positive they wouldn't have a compiled driver package with a later sensuaua version built in. I think most later SoundMAX driver compilations just removed the Sensaura components instead of adapting them for the newer chipsets and motherboards.

But it's nice to have that "info!"

I'm using the computer with the returned from RMA Gigabyte card in it and Vista. I did all that stuff with the other computer and that's setup great, and with this one I just popped the returned card in. They had replaced the fan/heatsink section, or just the fan. Not sure but it works.

I've been studying all I can find regarding Debian Gnu/Linux and likely will be installing that on this pc on a second hard drive currently empty. No negatives about OpenSUSE Linux but I just want to try something different. I was going to put the new Fedora 7 on it but Debian looks a bit more interesting to me with its reputation for stability and configurability. I'll put mostly the default stuff on it first time, but it looks almost like you can practically build your own operating system if you wanted to with Debian, to a certain extant. Seema it can be as easy or as complicated as you'd like it to be.

For goodness sakes, what's with the amount of ink todays newer inkjet printers use? I've needed to print out alot with my learning both Fedora and Debian and I've gone through several color and black cartridges. My old broken Apollo printer had cartridges that lasted months with normal use. This new HP Deskjet 4160 drinks ink like water!

Anyway, thanks a bunch.

MadHowdi · Jun 21, 2007, 03:45 PM

[COLOR="#808080"]Thanks for the PM material![/COLOR]
noprob

[COLOR="#808080"]That motherboard is just sitting in a box for now but someday I might want to use it again and that "info" sure would be fun to checkout.[/COLOR]
hee, was hard to get info and had took and cost me some investigations and calls LOL.

[COLOR="#808080"]I wonder if they have "info" regarding the Virtual Headphone Theater as well?[/COLOR]
Nope,mate.No "newer" info for Virtual Headphone Theater

[COLOR="#808080"]I think most later SoundMAX driver compilations just removed the Sensaura components instead of adapting them for the newer chipsets and motherboards.[/COLOR]
i finished my extended driver testing yesterday with all of the AD1888 drivers from this page and ASUS:
http://www.station-drivers.com/page/analog%20device.htm

Here the results:
CADENZA driver :5.12.01.4060 -> turned out to be a older IBM driver.Refuses to install.

SoundMax 5.12.01.5290/5.12.01.5410:
SoundMAX driver version 4/5.New interface and outlook.Even though Virtual Ear worked and was included as a older version within the driver installation,
the Virtual Theater was not supported and also results in "unregonised driver state" error message.

Also both 5290/5410 drivers where on a newer state,and no crackling appears in my testing sounds but misses the virtual theater support ("unregonised driver state")!Also i found a info that the A7V880 is a CADENZA audio system and lacks some improved SoundMAX features.The driver package worked however and sound plays fine.

SoundMax 5.12.1.5150 (P5VD1-X):
Virtual Theater was not supported and also results in "unregonised driver state" error message.

Interesting:
I checked for newer Intel INTEL Socket 478 P4u800-x ad1888 v5.12.1.4520 drivers but theres none so i assume that driver you all recommend is reliable.Only wonder,why the SoundMAX 4/5 drivers are newer (higher versions) for a in principle total different driver...size of the 5290/5410 drivers is 260kb compared to the 660kb for the SoundMAX CADENZA drivers.Hmmm all because of removed Virtual Theater support *verystrange*!

SoundMAX SuperBeam:
Downloaded the test app for checking compatibility with SoundMAX SuperBeam Array microphone.

http://www.andreaelectronics.com/Buy...beam_Array.htm
Audio System Check
http://www.andreaelectronics.com/pdf_files/AESysChk.exe

The ASUS A7V880 does not support this microphone

TEST SESSION END

Sorry, i dont have any Linux experiences so far and cant help here but plan to swap to Ubuntu for my home computer one day.

[COLOR="#808080"]For goodness sakes, what's with the amount of ink todays newer inkjet printers use? I've needed to print out alot with my learning both Fedora and Debian and I've gone through several color and black cartridges. My old broken Apollo printer had cartridges that lasted months with normal use. This new HP Deskjet 4160 drinks ink like water![/COLOR]
I am still using my be-loved HP 510 and am re-filling the same first bought cartridge now since 7 years

!!!Interesting because of the re-fill movement the later produced HP 510 cartridge HP51626A break down after around 10 times of re-fillingd

But this is one of the first charge production still prints fine

Eck · Jun 21, 2007, 08:22 PM

Wow, you sure researched that fully.

I just checked out the unofficial Live DVD of the KDE version of debian. They made a very nice selection for folks to try things out on.

I've done the same sort of research on this as you did with the SoundMAX stuff. I essentially have enough info printed out and studied to manage a Debian system to my liking pretty well. Previously I did the same with Fedora, so I'm now pretty versed (as long as I keep my printouts handy) in both. I studied Ubuntu/Kubuntu as well, and checked out the Live DVD's.

You know what? Regardless of the open software community's distaste for the assorted agreements with Microsoft, I'm going to install OpenSUSE 10.2 again and stick to that.

It's not that I'm afraid of customizing and using the different methods, but it's just so much easier to configure what I need in SUSE. YaST is just an incredible system tool. I've used the distro for months and the only reasons I was looking elsewhere was to see what else was available and to increase my Linux knowledge. I think I did that without even installing the thing.

Guess I'm not a diehard. I'm going to use whatever I like best and let the behind the scenes political stuff work itself out. At least now I'll have a clue about the other distros if I need to work with them in the future.

MadHowdi · Jun 22, 2007, 01:32 AM

From a friend i know he likes Debian and dislikes KDE/Gnom desktop environments but prefers command line control.I personaly prefer windows/WYSIWYG environments so i its indeed interesting for me to read infos about your linux experiences

I pretty much enjoyed this comparison video clip about Aero Vista and Ubuntu environment:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xC5uEe5OzNQ

Keeping in mind that what Ubuntu offers is based on free employment its incredible!

SoundMAX Audio question:
Eck, because i dont have that much knowledge about soundchips and stuff,could you tell me weither this mentioned "resampling into 48 kHz-bug" affects our A7V880 CADENZA driver/codec?

http://www.digit-life.com/articles2/...nza/index.html

Quote:

General performance: Average (in detail)

In the 44 kHz mode which is basic for playback of MP3, CD and sound in games there are problems with resampling into 48 kHz. Even excluding the intermodulation distortions the THD+N at a 1 KHz sinusoid makes 0.1% with A-weighted applied, though Analog Devices states that the codec is able to operate at any reference frequencies (like in case of any professional card). But to make things simpler the frequency is forcedly resampled into 48 kHz in the drivers.

What is this resampling good for?Did you get in touch with this problem at any time?

cheers and greets

Eck · Jun 23, 2007, 08:01 AM

Yes, preferably you'd want to output at the same frequency as the music file was recorded at. Doing this with all but professional soundcards is pretty much not happening. By professional I mean the ones that are like $400 and up. Effects you'd like to apply mean resampling to 48, applying the effect, then sampling back down even on those. Windows will resample to 48, apply the effect, then output to 48.

Cards like the Audigy line will resample to 48 as well. A workaround is using the ASIO drivers provided in the Audigy line and a player that can use a plugin to output through ASIO. SoundMAX does not provide and ASIO driver. One could try to use ASIO4ALL and a Winamp ASIO plugin on that.

In that case you would loose the enhancements of the Sensarura Virtual stuff, as well as any EQ enhancements. Turning on an EQ or even bass/treble adjustments would resample before handing it over to ASIO4ALL, which defeats the purpose.

I wouldn't bother as the system load used by ASIO drivers combined with the already busy processor since you're on on-board soundchip here, would likely cause system slowdown.

Just adjust the music as you like and if it sounds good don't worry about it. You're not exactly going for audiophile quality on an itsy bitsy on-board soundchip. It's good enough for many though, and the SoundMAX implementation was one of the better of the pack. It blows away Realtek, at least the chips comparible to what you've got. I've never even listened to the on board on these Epox boards since they a standard Realtek and I had heard enough to know that any of my soundcards would be way better.

But your SoundMAX likely beats an SBLive or an Audigy 1. Don't worry about the frequency stuff.

MadHowdi · Jun 25, 2007, 01:45 AM

another pair of those 2.1 Logitech R-20 Soundsystems cauz of the great sound and to experience the new great surround sound.

Usually playing shooters with teamspeak (headset-mic) and this afternoon I was listening to some videos in quadrophonic surround mode testing the new patched driver.Everything worked fine and great sounds after restart of the system when changing from stereo to quadrophonie!

Later tonight i thought okay,i can leave the second soundsystem plug'ed in the pink connector (where usually the mic can be connected to which i dont use because of the case front panel connection lineout and mic for the headset).The reason i left it plugged in because the 2.1 system has a extra power button so i can make sure it is off so no power is on the line.So i switched to stereo in Soundmax again and system restarted.And now...guess what happened

?!There was no mic source anymore!!!deadline!!!Tried several device changes,rebooting and after a cmos reset finally and with great luck i had mic sound again

So now i really have to find a solution for this plug-restart-unplug audio device problem...

Can't i plug in the mic into the AUX device (which is right to the internal CD connector by the PCI slots)?!I would like to leave the system in quadrophonic
and still being able to use the mic in teamspeak.

Edit:
Figured out the Mic of the headset was defect.The Mic2 (front panel) while beeing in 5.1/quadrophonic mode still works!Theres no need to buy a extra headset

.

best regards
Mad

Eck · Jun 25, 2007, 05:54 PM

Not with the Analog Devices AD1888 SoundMAX codec. It's either 2.1 speakers and a microphone or 5.1 speakers with no microphone. The jacks change from a microphone input to a speaker output depending whether you're using 2.1 or 5.1.

That's just how this audio codec works. If you want it all you'll need to use a PCI soundcard instead and turn off the onboard audio in the bios. You can't even use both with this audio codec. Lot's of people use both a soundcard and the onboard but with this codec you can't.

So, it's nice but you see where it has its limitations.

MadHowdi · Jun 26, 2007, 08:52 PM

Hi, thanks.I bought a USB headset cauz i want to stick to the great AD1888 sound

Eck · Jun 27, 2007, 04:19 AM

Oh yeah! That'll work. I think I recall reading a suggestion once that a USB microphone would do the trick.

Enjoy!

MadHowdi · Jun 27, 2007, 12:55 PM

yup,hope it works

Oh BTW I also found this quick sound switch tool for changing between onboard and mic sound device:

http://www.quicksoundswitch.toflo.de/eng/index.html

Because the new bought headset doesnt support automatic device recognition and switching.

Edit:
Mic 2 front panel is not related to back Mic out!Its a second Microphone so when properly connected to case mic front theres no need to buy a extra soundchip implemented headset.

best regards

May 14, 2007, 12:56 AM	#31
MadHowdi DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 20 Rep Power: 0	Hi Eck, i played around and checked the Virtual Theater options for anything similar to "white noise" or "play tone settings" but no way to swap to some nice sound.All the other settings seems to work fine.Could you check your hdd or dvds if you could find those upgrades?Can we compare file-sizes of those exe installers? There are two folders inside the Sensaura main directory: "Headphone Theater Upgrade" containing: VirtualizerPanel.exe,VirtualizerPanel.chm i wonder why its called "Headphone Theater upgrade" and not simple "Headphone Theater".Do i miss maybe files of the first upgrade release?! "Virtual Ear" containing the Virtual Ear files... The filesizes are: HeadphoneTheater_V112.exe = 1.852.412kb VirtualEar3_V107.exe = 7.970.692kb I used the HP 5.12.01.3663 driver and did it exactly the way you recommended.Replaced the swdm.sys of the 3663 driver by the xxx.4520 driver sys and installed. Just checked the ASUS 3663 driver and compared it with the ASUS CD driver version.They both contain same Win2k,WinXP drivers.Only difference is,that the Driver CD version also contains Linux readme.txt and NT4.0 SoundMAX audio driver. ...strange... Last edited by MadHowdi; May 14, 2007 at 01:08 AM.

May 14, 2007, 06:31 PM	#33
Eck DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 154 Rep Power: 0	Yep, those are the exact same file names, version numbers, and file sizes that I have. So you have the correct programs and of course, hopefully, the serial numbers for both of them. You seem to have everything taken care of. Now you can go ahead and have fun with things. You'll probably notice, if you are a fan of midi music, that the included midi support is okay but nothing to write home about. It's better than non-creative soundcards offer today though. I used to install a full version of Yamaha s-YXG50 Version 4 for XP to get much better midi playback. The Roland Virtual Sound Canvas VSC-1 with the downloaded update for XP was something else I used at times. An easier to find option is Synthfont. That fellow has created a pretty good Soundfont system for non-Creative soundcards. Through the use of Maple Midi Tools you could likely pipe it in and out through other midi type software programs. What's nice is you can set Synthfont to use just about any downloaded soundfont bank so you can enjoy excellent midi quality with any soundcard. But what comes with SoundMAX isn't bad for the occasional midi song playback. I don't know how much you're into that type of thing. I don't know. I think I remember that the test within SoundMAX control panel was either White Noise of music and the test within one of the plugins was different or vice versa. Just not sure. As long as your playback and effects are working I think you're all right. Have fun! __________________ Epox 8KRAIPRO/Asus A7V880 Crucial 3200DDR 512x2 Sempron 3300+/AthlonXP3200 Gigabyte NVidia 6600GT/ATI Radeon x850PRO 250GB Maxtor Sata/250GB Maxtor ATA Audigy 2 ZS Platinum/Audigy 2 ZS Platinum Pro

May 16, 2007, 04:50 AM	#35
Eck DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 154 Rep Power: 0	From what I've seen around the web, and I did keep tabs on things while I was using that board, the last driver set for a via chipset board and the SoundMAX AD1888 codec was the 3663 that you already have installed. The only improvement upon that was that one workaround for various problems that was solved by substituting that one file that you have already done. Any further drivers were only produced for boards with Intel chipsets because just about all the Via boards began to be built with the Realtek audio chip instead. Since encorporating Sensaura is not just a drop in process for the WDM driver model, as it had been in the 9x days with the VXD driver model, no longer having Sensaura provide updated software that is compatible with newer chipsets and soundboards made it impossible to include. Sensaura used to provide the software and then the card manufacturers would incorporate it into the drivers. For this reason, companies such as AudioTrak, makers of the Prodigy soundcard series, switched to the only other non-Creative option for DirectSound 3D EAX. That is QSound Labs. Many soundcard manufacturers decided not to make an arrangement with QSound Labs. M-Audio, which had been incorporating Sensaura into its drivers, just stopped making driver updates, for example. Realtek kept using the older versions of Sensaura, and have alternated between removing Sensaura support and putting it back as bugs would occur with the interaction of the old Sensaura versions and the newer drivers. Of course the reason for not having any newer Sensaura versions to work with is that Creative bought the company! Many Sensaura developers were kept on by Creative and their newer driver sets incorporate many Sensaura features. In fact, some files still have not been renamed so the system will detect that Sensaura is installed when using Creative cards. Their latest models include Sensaura in the list of features. With the advent of Windows Vista, this is all moot as their is no longer Direct Sound 3D with the exception of OpenAL in hardware with supported soundcards or software Direct Sound 3D as provided by Creative Alchemy on X-Fi cards. I wouldn't think that the driver sets including SoundMAX 4.0 will work at all on the A7V880 with its Via chipset. You can read about SoundMAX versions on their website, but that newer technology must come with a new motherboard purchase, I'm afraid. There's only so much you can optimize using the tiny motherboard audio chipsets anyway. I think the main enhancements available in SoundMAX 4 were involving microphone use, and only if you purchased the Analog Devices SuperBeam and its related software. So I really don't think you're missing much. In fact you're probably better off if you play EAX 1 and EAX 2 enhanced games by using SoundMAX Cadenza and SoundMAX 3.0 as that has the Sensaura stuff. And if you like headphone listening, nothing has ever beaten Sensaura Virtual Ear. Not much more to say about all this. You've got the best available for you installed and working. I've mentioned some midi enhancements you could try if they interest you. Time to move on and start using your system. Edit - Oh! To mention my own problems lately, my Gigabyte NVida GeForce 6600GT had its fan conk out. My ATI Radeon x850PRO has been in use for years and is still going strong, but the silly NVidia card blew out after only being used for a couple of weeks about a year ago and now for less than a week. This, with never changing default driver settings and no overclocking. I had just finished setting up Vista on my 2nd computer (I bought a second copy and also bought Office 2007 Home and Student so I could be all legal). I had switched over to NVidia to see the vaunted superiority in Linux, which I dual-boot with. Rats! I went ahead and ordered a PNY GeForce 6600GT for just 99 bucks and also sent out the RMA to Gigabyte. Well, I'll end up with 2 working cards I hope. Meanwhile, I needed to move my box with the ATI card back in. It has both Vista and OpenSuSE Linux 10.2, but I'm not booting into Vista on it because it has, shall I say, a funny version of Office 2007 on it and I just don't want to continue playing that game. I also had experimented with some codec software on it. I just don't want to bother formatting at the moment, having just spent a week putting all my stuff onto Vista on my now videocard less box. Fuming now! I survived a Novell Kernel update and a reinstall of the ATI fglrx drivers, as well as much of KDE being updated from the SuSE Build Service and all is well. I even put the latest replacement for Compiz/Beryl, OpenCompositing, on it. Pretty cool looking! Cyberorg had put his new SuSE install method up the day I was going through all this, so at least I had something fun and new to play around with. It doesn't yet include as much as Beryl, but includes some stuff I wasn't using with Beryl. I'm just stuck with the default Gnome window decoration in KDE because they haven't yet included the newer window decorator replacements for Aguamarine and Emerald onto the SuSE Cybororg Build Service repo yet and I will not play with compiling git versions the command line way. It's GUI or bust for me! I am a recent Linux Newbie, after all. I'm kind of afraid of that command line stuff. Barely need to touch it in SuSE, what with YaST and all. Only the ATI drivers and that DVD decoder needed me to play with the terminal much so far. Nice! I'll probably do new formatted installs of both Vista and SuSE on both computers (only one of them at first, and probably won't touch the other for a long time) when I get the NVidia cards. I could try just sticking the new card into the Vista machine that had it before, but I foresee much Windows difficulties unless I format and start fresh. I'll have the PNY card much sooner, and it's a differently designed card than the Gigabyte. Don't think things will go to smoothely that way! I wish I had uninstalled the driver before removing the card, but I was just too pissed off to think of that at the time. I foresee Vista blowing up if I just stick in the different card. This one has the VIVO connector too, unlike the Gigabyte. Yeah, better just format! __________________ Epox 8KRAIPRO/Asus A7V880 Crucial 3200DDR 512x2 Sempron 3300+/AthlonXP3200 Gigabyte NVidia 6600GT/ATI Radeon x850PRO 250GB Maxtor Sata/250GB Maxtor ATA Audigy 2 ZS Platinum/Audigy 2 ZS Platinum Pro Last edited by Eck; May 16, 2007 at 05:16 AM.

May 16, 2007, 05:04 PM	#36
Eck DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 154 Rep Power: 0	On the other hand... Better idea: New card, redo this computer that has the ATI card now. Fixed or replaced card that comes later, just slap it into the computer that had the same card with the failed fan and, since Vista has that card all setup already, no need to reinstall the whole thing! See what a calm thinking structure can do when you're not annoyed and stressed out? And if anyone's wondering, that Office 2007 comment relates to yeah, an Enterprise install. However Microsoft had sent me the Enterprise trial version anyway as I had been in the beta program. So what I did by installing the real version instead really wasn't that bad. It's just that the day I went out and bought the retail version I got a Microsoft email letting me know the trial time had expired. So it seems I did just the right thing at just the right time. And it is pretty conveniant that I'll be formatting this thing when the new NVidia card comes, probably tomorrow, and won't need to mess with replacing that Enterprise version (that has me actually as a Microsoft employee!) with the Home and Student. Not sure how that would have worked out as their programs usually don't allow a downgrade. The only parts I had installed were the same programs that come with Home and Student (don't use Outlook or any of the other stuff), but any retail key would have been a downgrade. And if you're wondering, "why not a 7600GT," that's because this AthlonXP would have held back most of the benefits of that over the less costly 6600GT. No real benefit for the higher price. Someday when I upgrade the motherboard it'll have PCIe so that's when I splurge for the better videocard. __________________ Epox 8KRAIPRO/Asus A7V880 Crucial 3200DDR 512x2 Sempron 3300+/AthlonXP3200 Gigabyte NVidia 6600GT/ATI Radeon x850PRO 250GB Maxtor Sata/250GB Maxtor ATA Audigy 2 ZS Platinum/Audigy 2 ZS Platinum Pro

May 18, 2007, 04:51 PM	#38
Eck DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 154 Rep Power: 0	Heh, heh, very funny (NOT). Nice try though. Maybe it's my mood. Sure, Windows 2000 is stable and with all the updates can be like XP without the bloat. However, like I said, no security updates or any other fixes will be made for it anymore. Personally, if I didn't like XP or Vista I'd run 98SE with the Unofficial Auto-Patcher for Windows 98SE, 98SE2ME and 98MP10 from the msfn.org forum. That combo actually has all security updates as of now, not when Microsoft support ended, because the guru's over there adapt new Microsoft XP/Vista/Internet Explorer security fixes so they'll vwork on 98SE. Windows 2000 has an unofficial Auto-Patcher too, but that just gives you what's available from Microsoft which from now on will be nothing. Security is importent, and not just viruses and trojans but also holes in the browser and operating system that are no longer being fixed on Windows 2000. I also like Vista. I don't even want to go back to XP since getting used to it. Linux, of course, beats them all. Somehow Linux has had the advanced security copied now by Microsoft for decades. User folders and upgrading privilages for processes needing root privilages is a Linux thing. Now Vista has that. I wonder if Linus will sue Microsoft for copying his intellectual property? And Aero looks like a dumbed down Compiz with less features. Maybe they should get sued for that too? Funny that Linux can do all this with computer hardware from 1995 but Microsoft needs today's processors and mega memory systems. I guess they didn't steal enough of Linus's ideas? I do thing we need to end posting here as no one's discussing Audigy 2 ZS Platinum drives, or even audio anymore. __________________ Epox 8KRAIPRO/Asus A7V880 Crucial 3200DDR 512x2 Sempron 3300+/AthlonXP3200 Gigabyte NVidia 6600GT/ATI Radeon x850PRO 250GB Maxtor Sata/250GB Maxtor ATA Audigy 2 ZS Platinum/Audigy 2 ZS Platinum Pro

May 16, 2007, 02:48 AM	#34
MadHowdi DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 20 Rep Power: 0	Hi Eck,i do understand if you dont want to hook onto this old technic anymore and discontinue checking this thread.For me its great to have found someone like you to talk to since i love my XP M 2600 and am glad my A7V880 works relatively perfect now.Great board in the end!There are still little thinks i need to take a closer look like the RAID which is believed to cause trouble above 200MHz FSB with AGP/PCI in Bios set to asynchronous.But since i dont have any SATA drives in use, i dont really care One thing which i like to ask you is about what experiences you have with SoundMAX 4 drivers.I talked to the ASUS support hotline today and found out about some newer AD1888 drivers like the 5.12.01.5290/5410.Thing is,they are SoundMAX 4 and dont get along with Sensaura Virtual Theater and Ear plugins.Theyre not even accessible.Question is,what was going on in that time?They release drivers like SoundMAX 3 Cadenza for AD1888 (A7V880) and then some years later release SoundMAX 4 drivers with totally different panel outlook and dont mention those Sensaura features anymore but still recommend those drives for A7V880.If you can tell me anything about SoundMAX 4 i would be glad cause i am trying a intense testing session tomorrow afternoon in what way those drivers work with Cadenza software and Sensaura upgrades.Do you have any idea why they dumped and discontinued those SoundMAX 3 Cadenza drivers?The SoundMAX 4 drivers are much smaller (if you compare size of those swmd.sys files). BR Mad

Jun 19, 2007, 08:50 PM	#39
MadHowdi DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 20 Rep Power: 0	Hi Eck, sure Vista has some cool modern graphic,multimedia features but 10 years as a windows system admin dealing with lots of different win problems IMHO theres only one reliable,fast system...Win2k ohh please check your PM box mate Last edited by MadHowdi; Jun 19, 2007 at 09:06 PM.

Jun 20, 2007, 09:18 PM	#40
Eck DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 154 Rep Power: 0	Thanks for the PM material! That motherboard is just sitting in a box for now but someday I might want to use it again and that "info" sure would be fun to checkout. I wonder if they have "info" regarding the Virtual Headphone Theater as well? I'm almost positive they wouldn't have a compiled driver package with a later sensuaua version built in. I think most later SoundMAX driver compilations just removed the Sensaura components instead of adapting them for the newer chipsets and motherboards. But it's nice to have that "info!" I'm using the computer with the returned from RMA Gigabyte card in it and Vista. I did all that stuff with the other computer and that's setup great, and with this one I just popped the returned card in. They had replaced the fan/heatsink section, or just the fan. Not sure but it works. I've been studying all I can find regarding Debian Gnu/Linux and likely will be installing that on this pc on a second hard drive currently empty. No negatives about OpenSUSE Linux but I just want to try something different. I was going to put the new Fedora 7 on it but Debian looks a bit more interesting to me with its reputation for stability and configurability. I'll put mostly the default stuff on it first time, but it looks almost like you can practically build your own operating system if you wanted to with Debian, to a certain extant. Seema it can be as easy or as complicated as you'd like it to be. For goodness sakes, what's with the amount of ink todays newer inkjet printers use? I've needed to print out alot with my learning both Fedora and Debian and I've gone through several color and black cartridges. My old broken Apollo printer had cartridges that lasted months with normal use. This new HP Deskjet 4160 drinks ink like water! Anyway, thanks a bunch. __________________ Epox 8KRAIPRO/Asus A7V880 Crucial 3200DDR 512x2 Sempron 3300+/AthlonXP3200 Gigabyte NVidia 6600GT/ATI Radeon x850PRO 250GB Maxtor Sata/250GB Maxtor ATA Audigy 2 ZS Platinum/Audigy 2 ZS Platinum Pro

Jun 21, 2007, 03:45 PM	#41
MadHowdi DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 20 Rep Power: 0	[COLOR="#808080"]Thanks for the PM material![/COLOR] noprob [COLOR="#808080"]That motherboard is just sitting in a box for now but someday I might want to use it again and that "info" sure would be fun to checkout.[/COLOR] hee, was hard to get info and had took and cost me some investigations and calls LOL. [COLOR="#808080"]I wonder if they have "info" regarding the Virtual Headphone Theater as well?[/COLOR] Nope,mate.No "newer" info for Virtual Headphone Theater [COLOR="#808080"]I think most later SoundMAX driver compilations just removed the Sensaura components instead of adapting them for the newer chipsets and motherboards.[/COLOR] i finished my extended driver testing yesterday with all of the AD1888 drivers from this page and ASUS: http://www.station-drivers.com/page/analog%20device.htm Here the results: CADENZA driver :5.12.01.4060 -> turned out to be a older IBM driver.Refuses to install. SoundMax 5.12.01.5290/5.12.01.5410: SoundMAX driver version 4/5.New interface and outlook.Even though Virtual Ear worked and was included as a older version within the driver installation, the Virtual Theater was not supported and also results in "unregonised driver state" error message. Also both 5290/5410 drivers where on a newer state,and no crackling appears in my testing sounds but misses the virtual theater support ("unregonised driver state")!Also i found a info that the A7V880 is a CADENZA audio system and lacks some improved SoundMAX features.The driver package worked however and sound plays fine. SoundMax 5.12.1.5150 (P5VD1-X): Virtual Theater was not supported and also results in "unregonised driver state" error message. Interesting: I checked for newer Intel INTEL Socket 478 P4u800-x ad1888 v5.12.1.4520 drivers but theres none so i assume that driver you all recommend is reliable.Only wonder,why the SoundMAX 4/5 drivers are newer (higher versions) for a in principle total different driver...size of the 5290/5410 drivers is 260kb compared to the 660kb for the SoundMAX CADENZA drivers.Hmmm all because of removed Virtual Theater support verystrange! SoundMAX SuperBeam: Downloaded the test app for checking compatibility with SoundMAX SuperBeam Array microphone. http://www.andreaelectronics.com/Buy...beam_Array.htm Audio System Check http://www.andreaelectronics.com/pdf_files/AESysChk.exe The ASUS A7V880 does not support this microphone TEST SESSION END Sorry, i dont have any Linux experiences so far and cant help here but plan to swap to Ubuntu for my home computer one day. [COLOR="#808080"]For goodness sakes, what's with the amount of ink todays newer inkjet printers use? I've needed to print out alot with my learning both Fedora and Debian and I've gone through several color and black cartridges. My old broken Apollo printer had cartridges that lasted months with normal use. This new HP Deskjet 4160 drinks ink like water![/COLOR] I am still using my be-loved HP 510 and am re-filling the same first bought cartridge now since 7 years !!!Interesting because of the re-fill movement the later produced HP 510 cartridge HP51626A break down after around 10 times of re-fillingd But this is one of the first charge production still prints fine Last edited by MadHowdi; Jun 21, 2007 at 07:37 PM.

Jun 21, 2007, 08:22 PM	#42
Eck DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 154 Rep Power: 0	Wow, you sure researched that fully. I just checked out the unofficial Live DVD of the KDE version of debian. They made a very nice selection for folks to try things out on. I've done the same sort of research on this as you did with the SoundMAX stuff. I essentially have enough info printed out and studied to manage a Debian system to my liking pretty well. Previously I did the same with Fedora, so I'm now pretty versed (as long as I keep my printouts handy) in both. I studied Ubuntu/Kubuntu as well, and checked out the Live DVD's. You know what? Regardless of the open software community's distaste for the assorted agreements with Microsoft, I'm going to install OpenSUSE 10.2 again and stick to that. It's not that I'm afraid of customizing and using the different methods, but it's just so much easier to configure what I need in SUSE. YaST is just an incredible system tool. I've used the distro for months and the only reasons I was looking elsewhere was to see what else was available and to increase my Linux knowledge. I think I did that without even installing the thing. Guess I'm not a diehard. I'm going to use whatever I like best and let the behind the scenes political stuff work itself out. At least now I'll have a clue about the other distros if I need to work with them in the future. __________________ Epox 8KRAIPRO/Asus A7V880 Crucial 3200DDR 512x2 Sempron 3300+/AthlonXP3200 Gigabyte NVidia 6600GT/ATI Radeon x850PRO 250GB Maxtor Sata/250GB Maxtor ATA Audigy 2 ZS Platinum/Audigy 2 ZS Platinum Pro

Jun 23, 2007, 08:01 AM	#44
Eck DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 154 Rep Power: 0	Yes, preferably you'd want to output at the same frequency as the music file was recorded at. Doing this with all but professional soundcards is pretty much not happening. By professional I mean the ones that are like $400 and up. Effects you'd like to apply mean resampling to 48, applying the effect, then sampling back down even on those. Windows will resample to 48, apply the effect, then output to 48. Cards like the Audigy line will resample to 48 as well. A workaround is using the ASIO drivers provided in the Audigy line and a player that can use a plugin to output through ASIO. SoundMAX does not provide and ASIO driver. One could try to use ASIO4ALL and a Winamp ASIO plugin on that. In that case you would loose the enhancements of the Sensarura Virtual stuff, as well as any EQ enhancements. Turning on an EQ or even bass/treble adjustments would resample before handing it over to ASIO4ALL, which defeats the purpose. I wouldn't bother as the system load used by ASIO drivers combined with the already busy processor since you're on on-board soundchip here, would likely cause system slowdown. Just adjust the music as you like and if it sounds good don't worry about it. You're not exactly going for audiophile quality on an itsy bitsy on-board soundchip. It's good enough for many though, and the SoundMAX implementation was one of the better of the pack. It blows away Realtek, at least the chips comparible to what you've got. I've never even listened to the on board on these Epox boards since they a standard Realtek and I had heard enough to know that any of my soundcards would be way better. But your SoundMAX likely beats an SBLive or an Audigy 1. Don't worry about the frequency stuff. __________________ Epox 8KRAIPRO/Asus A7V880 Crucial 3200DDR 512x2 Sempron 3300+/AthlonXP3200 Gigabyte NVidia 6600GT/ATI Radeon x850PRO 250GB Maxtor Sata/250GB Maxtor ATA Audigy 2 ZS Platinum/Audigy 2 ZS Platinum Pro

Jun 25, 2007, 01:45 AM	#45
MadHowdi DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 20 Rep Power: 0	another pair of those 2.1 Logitech R-20 Soundsystems cauz of the great sound and to experience the new great surround sound. Usually playing shooters with teamspeak (headset-mic) and this afternoon I was listening to some videos in quadrophonic surround mode testing the new patched driver.Everything worked fine and great sounds after restart of the system when changing from stereo to quadrophonie! Later tonight i thought okay,i can leave the second soundsystem plug'ed in the pink connector (where usually the mic can be connected to which i dont use because of the case front panel connection lineout and mic for the headset).The reason i left it plugged in because the 2.1 system has a extra power button so i can make sure it is off so no power is on the line.So i switched to stereo in Soundmax again and system restarted.And now...guess what happened ?!There was no mic source anymore!!!deadline!!!Tried several device changes,rebooting and after a cmos reset finally and with great luck i had mic sound again So now i really have to find a solution for this plug-restart-unplug audio device problem... Can't i plug in the mic into the AUX device (which is right to the internal CD connector by the PCI slots)?!I would like to leave the system in quadrophonic and still being able to use the mic in teamspeak. Edit: Figured out the Mic of the headset was defect.The Mic2 (front panel) while beeing in 5.1/quadrophonic mode still works!Theres no need to buy a extra headset . best regards Mad Last edited by MadHowdi; Jul 19, 2007 at 12:20 PM.

Jun 25, 2007, 05:54 PM	#46
Eck DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 154 Rep Power: 0	Not with the Analog Devices AD1888 SoundMAX codec. It's either 2.1 speakers and a microphone or 5.1 speakers with no microphone. The jacks change from a microphone input to a speaker output depending whether you're using 2.1 or 5.1. That's just how this audio codec works. If you want it all you'll need to use a PCI soundcard instead and turn off the onboard audio in the bios. You can't even use both with this audio codec. Lot's of people use both a soundcard and the onboard but with this codec you can't. So, it's nice but you see where it has its limitations. __________________ Epox 8KRAIPRO/Asus A7V880 Crucial 3200DDR 512x2 Sempron 3300+/AthlonXP3200 Gigabyte NVidia 6600GT/ATI Radeon x850PRO 250GB Maxtor Sata/250GB Maxtor ATA Audigy 2 ZS Platinum/Audigy 2 ZS Platinum Pro

Jun 26, 2007, 08:52 PM	#47
MadHowdi DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 20 Rep Power: 0	Hi, thanks.I bought a USB headset cauz i want to stick to the great AD1888 sound

Jun 27, 2007, 04:19 AM	#48
Eck DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 154 Rep Power: 0	Oh yeah! That'll work. I think I recall reading a suggestion once that a USB microphone would do the trick. Enjoy! __________________ Epox 8KRAIPRO/Asus A7V880 Crucial 3200DDR 512x2 Sempron 3300+/AthlonXP3200 Gigabyte NVidia 6600GT/ATI Radeon x850PRO 250GB Maxtor Sata/250GB Maxtor ATA Audigy 2 ZS Platinum/Audigy 2 ZS Platinum Pro

Jun 27, 2007, 12:55 PM	#49
MadHowdi DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 20 Rep Power: 0	yup,hope it works Oh BTW I also found this quick sound switch tool for changing between onboard and mic sound device: http://www.quicksoundswitch.toflo.de/eng/index.html Because the new bought headset doesnt support automatic device recognition and switching. Edit: Mic 2 front panel is not related to back Mic out!Its a second Microphone so when properly connected to case mic front theres no need to buy a extra soundchip implemented headset. best regards Last edited by MadHowdi; Jul 19, 2007 at 12:21 PM.