Backing up DVD to DVD -/+R

zerodamage · Feb 19, 2004, 03:33 PM

Has anyone here backed up a movie DVD to another DVD successfully? If so, I would like to know what software was used and how long it took and etc. Any and all information related to doing this would be greatly appreciated.

Zardon · Feb 19, 2004, 03:45 PM

DVD X copy platinium. put in the original disc in one DVD drive and the blank DVD media in the other, click "copy everything", hey presto, menus, special stuff the works (with a slight loss in quality of course as most DVDs you buy are double layered)....... time? depends on your machine really. around an hour a disc would be a decent figure.

zerodamage · Feb 20, 2004, 04:21 PM

thanks

digerati · Feb 21, 2004, 11:02 PM

For more advanced users you can use a program called IFO edit, you can cut out certain soundtracks and/or extras you don't want to make the movie fit onto the blank disc. I use it because I don't like sacrificing video quality to keep the often useless french soundtracks and stupid trailers or previews. If you want directions you can contact me personally.

easyrider · Feb 22, 2004, 12:08 AM

Dvd xcopy Xpress is much better than Dvd Xcopy/platinum IMO, simply because it does cmpression to a single dvd disc, unike dvd xcopy and platinum, both with some movies it has to put on 2 dvd discs, wich to me is a waste. I presonally don't use many menus and such, and the sound is default of 5.1 surround dolby digital when dvd xcopy xpress copies. It takes about 20-40 mins depending on the movie length. With dvd xcopy xpress you can choose entire disc, or uncheck it and do just the movie, and it will bypass menu's and just do the movie itself. Nothing to fastforward thru and nothing to sit thru such as fbi warnings in english and spanish or another language, just put the disc in and the movie plays right off.
I think sometimes the dvd's have alot of un-needed bloat really, I mean who needs movie previes on a dvd? 10 yrs from now watching it, yer not gonna care about previews of movies that are old. Plus the extra menu animations, while some are very kewl indeed, once you've seen it, it's nice then it's over, it just eats space up is all.

Anyways, I'de suggest Dvd xcopy Xpress, but it's yer choice.

On another note, there are other ways of doing it, and look just as good as dvd xcopy does, but take a little more time to do it.
Here are a few links I can recoomend you:

Divx Digest
Doom9.org
Dvdrhelp

Out of those three, I prefer Dvdrhelp the most, it seems to have more in depth how-to's and more different ways of doing stuff.

Hope this helps.

WildChild · Feb 23, 2004, 06:33 PM

DVDX Copy is now illegal in the states,Judge ruled that the other day.Sucks but the industry wins another one for now.

DVDX Ruling

Logla · Feb 23, 2004, 06:55 PM

I use DVD Shrink. It lets you shrink the larger movies down so that they fit onto a normal dvdr and you can re-author the disk for more space saving (just taking out the extras on a disk such as deleted extra scenes and subtitles or soundtracks that you dont want.)

Zardon · Feb 23, 2004, 11:37 PM

dvd shrink is good, I think the author now works for ahead (nero). dvd x copy platinium is fantastic, so easy to use (of course im talking about making backups of my own DVDS here, not making illegal copies).

mike2h · Feb 24, 2004, 12:12 AM

i have backed up quite a few movies. dvd shrink 3.1 is awsome(&free)! if you are using nero it becomes a 2 button thing. i prefer to customise the compression myself because pix quality is a big thing with me.
anyway this nifty little program will let you do it however you want to & is fast.

Logla · Feb 24, 2004, 07:15 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Zardon
(of course im talking about making backups of my own DVDS here, not making illegal copies).

of course - wouldn't dream of it. You can go to jail and get buggered by bigger boys if you do that.

Al_Vampyre · Feb 24, 2004, 11:13 AM

I've tried most of the one step solutions and find that Pinnacle Instant Copy 8 gives me the best results, it will take longer, maybe 2hrs or more depending on the movie, but the results are worth it. A lot of my *cough* backups *cough* are indistinguishable from the real thing...

Necrosis · Feb 25, 2004, 12:13 AM

I haven't tried DVD Shrink but why does it only say for DVD-R? It doesn't actually burn the DVD's. My issue is my DVD player only supports R+.

digerati · Feb 25, 2004, 04:12 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Necrosis
I haven't tried DVD Shrink but why does it only say for DVD-R? It doesn't actually burn the DVD's. My issue is my DVD player only supports R+.

The software doesn't determine -R or +R, it's the disc itself. Also your DVD player should be able to burn +R.

Logla · Feb 25, 2004, 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Necrosis
I haven't tried DVD Shrink but why does it only say for DVD-R? It doesn't actually burn the DVD's. My issue is my DVD player only supports R+.

I didn't see that, however I only use +R discs and it works great. I think they must have meant DVDR as in DVD Recordable. It works with everything as far as I know.
I only use DVDShrink to actually shrink and rip the disk onto HDD and then use Nero to burn the files back to a blank disk.

Necrosis · Feb 26, 2004, 01:45 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Logla
I didn't see that, however I only use +R discs and it works great. I think they must have meant DVDR as in DVD Recordable. It works with everything as far as I know.
I only use DVDShrink to actually shrink and rip the disk onto HDD and then use Nero to burn the files back to a blank disk.

Sweet..thanks I was getting kinda worried what I was going to do when my DVD X Copy Express get outdated!

WildChild · Mar 2, 2004, 12:36 AM

I use DVD-Decrypter and DVD2One to rip and compress mine to a regular 4.7GB disk.

peterosesbookie · Mar 19, 2004, 07:58 PM

I use SmartRipper 2.41 with ASPI driver 4.60's to rip the entire dvd to bypass the CSS Encryption (goto backup and select all) and this takes about 15 minutes to 45 minutes depending on the the Encryption and that I have a fully fuctional no Limit toshiba dvd drive it usually takes about 20 minutes to decrypt. Then I have to options on the compressing of the video. One is DVDShrink or Nero. You can do the whole process with DVDShrink also and skip the first step but takes much longer to because it has to decrpyt, process, and compress and file.

DVDShink takes about 10-15 minutes on my machine in full processing mode.

Then I finally burn my disc on DVD-R because it is more compatible with most dvd players that are not supposed to read dvd-r.

I use Nero to burn the discs.

pretty easy.

my next post will deal with processing Pal AVI's/SVCD's to NTSC DVD's with Nero 6.

Later

pete

digerati · Mar 20, 2004, 07:28 PM

I could never stand for compressed video *shudder*

Vampyromaniac · Mar 20, 2004, 08:09 PM

You know regular DVD's use compressed video, right? it's all about bitrate

digerati · Mar 20, 2004, 08:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Vampyromaniac
You know regular DVD's use compressed video, right? it's all about bitrate

Yes, but their average bitrate is somehwere around 9k. For true uncompressed video you go to Laserdiscs. But that video is already compressed, so what I meant to say is to compress compressed video just bothers me beyond no end lol.

peterosesbookie · Mar 21, 2004, 10:30 PM

Most standalone dvd players have problems with the dual layer discs and it states that clearly on the dvd case. I have made great results with the way I make my discs. I do not have a problem with the discs. But when I move to my server/workstation, the computer does not have the shudder problem my dvd player has which is Panasonic dvd-25 series. I use it mostly to play back the pal SVCD's back into my system.

peterosesbookie · Mar 21, 2004, 10:31 PM

I know that the only video codec that is uncompressed is Uncompressed AVI to my knowledge.

Trunks0 · Sep 18, 2004, 07:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ^_^

Yes, but their average bitrate is somehwere around 9k. For true uncompressed video you go to Laserdiscs. But that video is already compressed, so what I meant to say is to compress compressed video just bothers me beyond no end lol.

Lazer Disc is compressed as well. They are huge because they didn't have better compression formats or a way to make more space on normal sized CD disc's. So they did the simple thing, just made the disc large/big enough to fit the data with the compression and CD ability's of the time. Which ment a CD about the size of a large record.

But still lazer disc is about on par or just below DVD quallity depending how good a job they did compressing the movie

p.s. sorry for bumping up an old thread just thought I would sort that out

classic_leon · Sep 25, 2004, 10:43 AM

I use CloneDVD and nero. CloneDVD is able to backup a same DVD as original one, even the license and copyright are backed up.

classic_leon · Sep 25, 2004, 10:44 AM

I use CloneDVD and nero. CloneDVD is able to backup a same DVD as original one, even the license and copyright are backed up. Then I use nero to DIY the cover for the backed up DVD.

Nacht · Sep 26, 2004, 12:31 AM

I use DVDShrink or DVDDecryptor. Takes me about 40 minutes to decrypt/re-encode/burn on my system with an 8x burner.

As far as watching "compressed" video...most movies for me stay at around 65-70% quality...and you cannot tell the difference between that and the regular dvd unless you're watching it on a hdtv and a progressive scan player.

Feb 19, 2004, 03:33 PM	#1
zerodamage HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Virginia, USA Posts: 3,478 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	Backing up DVD to DVD -/+R Has anyone here backed up a movie DVD to another DVD successfully? If so, I would like to know what software was used and how long it took and etc. Any and all information related to doing this would be greatly appreciated.

Feb 22, 2004, 12:08 AM	#5
easyrider DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 156 Rep Power: 0	Dvd xcopy Xpress is much better than Dvd Xcopy/platinum IMO, simply because it does cmpression to a single dvd disc, unike dvd xcopy and platinum, both with some movies it has to put on 2 dvd discs, wich to me is a waste. I presonally don't use many menus and such, and the sound is default of 5.1 surround dolby digital when dvd xcopy xpress copies. It takes about 20-40 mins depending on the movie length. With dvd xcopy xpress you can choose entire disc, or uncheck it and do just the movie, and it will bypass menu's and just do the movie itself. Nothing to fastforward thru and nothing to sit thru such as fbi warnings in english and spanish or another language, just put the disc in and the movie plays right off. I think sometimes the dvd's have alot of un-needed bloat really, I mean who needs movie previes on a dvd? 10 yrs from now watching it, yer not gonna care about previews of movies that are old. Plus the extra menu animations, while some are very kewl indeed, once you've seen it, it's nice then it's over, it just eats space up is all. Anyways, I'de suggest Dvd xcopy Xpress, but it's yer choice. On another note, there are other ways of doing it, and look just as good as dvd xcopy does, but take a little more time to do it. Here are a few links I can recoomend you: Divx Digest Doom9.org Dvdrhelp Out of those three, I prefer Dvdrhelp the most, it seems to have more in depth how-to's and more different ways of doing stuff. Hope this helps. __________________ P4 3.0 Prescott Corsair 2x512 mem (1 gig) BFG 7800gs oc default 400/1250, to 480/1450

Feb 23, 2004, 06:33 PM	#6
WildChild I'm Still Watching Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: New Jersey,U.S.A. Posts: 1,068 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	DVDX Copy is now illegal in the states,Judge ruled that the other day.Sucks but the industry wins another one for now. DVDX Ruling __________________ Knowledge is SCARY,Stupidity is REALLY frightening

Feb 24, 2004, 12:12 AM	#9
mike2h DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: norcal Posts: 6,483 Rep Power: 91 System Specs	i have backed up quite a few movies. dvd shrink 3.1 is awsome(&free)! if you are using nero it becomes a 2 button thing. i prefer to customise the compression myself because pix quality is a big thing with me. anyway this nifty little program will let you do it however you want to & is fast. __________________

Feb 24, 2004, 11:13 AM	#11
Al_Vampyre HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Scotland Posts: 1,532 Rep Power: 72 System Specs	I've tried most of the one step solutions and find that Pinnacle Instant Copy 8 gives me the best results, it will take longer, maybe 2hrs or more depending on the movie, but the results are worth it. A lot of my cough backups cough are indistinguishable from the real thing... __________________ "Knowledge is knowing that a tomato is a fruit; wisdom is knowing not to put it in a fruit salad" - Brian O'Driscoll - Ireland Rugby Team 2009 Grand Slam winning Captain.

Feb 19, 2004, 03:45 PM	#2
Zardon DriverHeaven Founder Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 32,480 Rep Power: 179	DVD X copy platinium. put in the original disc in one DVD drive and the blank DVD media in the other, click "copy everything", hey presto, menus, special stuff the works (with a slight loss in quality of course as most DVDs you buy are double layered)....... time? depends on your machine really. around an hour a disc would be a decent figure.

Feb 20, 2004, 04:21 PM	Thread Starter #3
zerodamage HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Virginia, USA Posts: 3,478 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	thanks

Feb 21, 2004, 11:02 PM	#4
digerati Everyones life has worth Join Date: May 2003 Location: My Yellow Bug Posts: 3,779 Rep Power: 0	For more advanced users you can use a program called IFO edit, you can cut out certain soundtracks and/or extras you don't want to make the movie fit onto the blank disc. I use it because I don't like sacrificing video quality to keep the often useless french soundtracks and stupid trailers or previews. If you want directions you can contact me personally.

Feb 23, 2004, 06:55 PM	#7
Logla HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 3,311 Rep Power: 0	I use DVD Shrink. It lets you shrink the larger movies down so that they fit onto a normal dvdr and you can re-author the disk for more space saving (just taking out the extras on a disk such as deleted extra scenes and subtitles or soundtracks that you dont want.)

Feb 23, 2004, 11:37 PM	#8
Zardon DriverHeaven Founder Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 32,480 Rep Power: 179	dvd shrink is good, I think the author now works for ahead (nero). dvd x copy platinium is fantastic, so easy to use (of course im talking about making backups of my own DVDS here, not making illegal copies).

Feb 25, 2004, 12:13 AM	#12
Necrosis HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Ohio Posts: 8,838 Rep Power: 131 System Specs	I haven't tried DVD Shrink but why does it only say for DVD-R? It doesn't actually burn the DVD's. My issue is my DVD player only supports R+.

Mar 2, 2004, 12:36 AM	#16
WildChild I'm Still Watching Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: New Jersey,U.S.A. Posts: 1,068 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	I use DVD-Decrypter and DVD2One to rip and compress mine to a regular 4.7GB disk. __________________ Knowledge is SCARY,Stupidity is REALLY frightening

Mar 19, 2004, 07:58 PM	#17
peterosesbookie HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: OHIO Posts: 556 Rep Power: 0	Here is my way of doing it. I use SmartRipper 2.41 with ASPI driver 4.60's to rip the entire dvd to bypass the CSS Encryption (goto backup and select all) and this takes about 15 minutes to 45 minutes depending on the the Encryption and that I have a fully fuctional no Limit toshiba dvd drive it usually takes about 20 minutes to decrypt. Then I have to options on the compressing of the video. One is DVDShrink or Nero. You can do the whole process with DVDShrink also and skip the first step but takes much longer to because it has to decrpyt, process, and compress and file. DVDShink takes about 10-15 minutes on my machine in full processing mode. Then I finally burn my disc on DVD-R because it is more compatible with most dvd players that are not supposed to read dvd-r. I use Nero to burn the discs. pretty easy. my next post will deal with processing Pal AVI's/SVCD's to NTSC DVD's with Nero 6. Later pete

Mar 20, 2004, 07:28 PM	#18
digerati Everyones life has worth Join Date: May 2003 Location: My Yellow Bug Posts: 3,779 Rep Power: 0	I could never stand for compressed video shudder

Mar 20, 2004, 08:09 PM	#19
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Mar 21, 2004, 10:30 PM	#21
peterosesbookie HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: OHIO Posts: 556 Rep Power: 0	I have more shuddering with dual layer dvd's than I do with my compressed DVD videos Most standalone dvd players have problems with the dual layer discs and it states that clearly on the dvd case. I have made great results with the way I make my discs. I do not have a problem with the discs. But when I move to my server/workstation, the computer does not have the shudder problem my dvd player has which is Panasonic dvd-25 series. I use it mostly to play back the pal SVCD's back into my system. __________________ A Cat almost always blinks when hit in the head with a ball peen hammer!

Mar 21, 2004, 10:31 PM	#22
peterosesbookie HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: OHIO Posts: 556 Rep Power: 0	I know that the only video codec that is uncompressed is Uncompressed AVI to my knowledge. __________________ A Cat almost always blinks when hit in the head with a ball peen hammer!

Sep 25, 2004, 10:43 AM	#24
classic_leon HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Wu Han, Hu Bei, P.R.China Posts: 1,238 Rep Power: 0	I use CloneDVD and nero. CloneDVD is able to backup a same DVD as original one, even the license and copyright are backed up. __________________ Fashion keeps us alive. YouP-PAX Please visit http://www.A-PAX.co.uk to discuss the computer mods. The latest YouP PAX modded drivers are provided on the site.

Sep 25, 2004, 10:44 AM	#25
classic_leon HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Wu Han, Hu Bei, P.R.China Posts: 1,238 Rep Power: 0	I use CloneDVD and nero. CloneDVD is able to backup a same DVD as original one, even the license and copyright are backed up. Then I use nero to DIY the cover for the backed up DVD. __________________ Fashion keeps us alive. YouP-PAX Please visit http://www.A-PAX.co.uk to discuss the computer mods. The latest YouP PAX modded drivers are provided on the site.

Sep 26, 2004, 12:31 AM	#26
Nacht ein Krieger Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Clemson Uni Posts: 3,127 Rep Power: 0	I use DVDShrink or DVDDecryptor. Takes me about 40 minutes to decrypt/re-encode/burn on my system with an 8x burner. As far as watching "compressed" video...most movies for me stay at around 65-70% quality...and you cannot tell the difference between that and the regular dvd unless you're watching it on a hdtv and a progressive scan player.