Post your HDTach 3 Results!

Judas · Jul 14, 2007, 11:29 PM

bloody nice

PangingJr · Jul 16, 2007, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Judas

bloody nice

here's a quick bench on the 65GB RAID 0 volume with 128K strips and with the write-back cache enabled, just to make sure you can't beat me back.
i don't know how far the average read would be if i use 16K strip size...

Bluetoast · Jul 22, 2007, 05:15 PM

This setup uses 2x hitachi deskstars ~150gb each @ 128kb strip size. One of my harddrives is making a loud clicking noise. I'm afraid there might be something wrong. Can anyone give me any insights on whats going on?

Judas · Jul 23, 2007, 08:45 AM

Clicking..... Would it be similare noise to when you first fire up the computer (as if the drive is shutting down and then spinning up again)...

Usually a sound like that means it's getting to the point of quiting soon... but i've ran some HDs like that for a good year before they've oventually died.

usually the clicking starts, then windows will randomly freeze up for short periods of time, then the drive completely disappears IF it's set as a extra drive and doesn't have windows on it.

IMO, Download the Manufacturers Diagnostics programs and run through em.

Bluetoast · Jul 23, 2007, 04:26 PM

K, I'll do that right now. Do my results seem normal to you? Cuz, i dont think spiking down to 10mb's over and over seem very normal.

ChaosMinionX · Jul 23, 2007, 09:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bluetoast

This setup uses 2x hitachi deskstars ~150gb each @ 128kb strip size. One of my harddrives is making a loud clicking noise. I'm afraid there might be something wrong. Can anyone give me any insights on whats going on?

Holy crap, your results are erradic as all hell..... the performance across your disk is a mess, it shouldnt drop and shoot up like that...

Bluetoast · Jul 23, 2007, 10:01 PM

heres the other result i posted earlier, not sure why it didnt show.

ChaosMinionX · Jul 23, 2007, 11:21 PM

That looks like a drive is dying...have you run any SMART on them?

Bluetoast · Jul 23, 2007, 11:47 PM

I don't know how to run smart on a raid. mind explaining how.

ChaosMinionX · Jul 24, 2007, 02:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Bluetoast

I don't know how to run smart on a raid. mind explaining how.

hmm, should still be able to run it on the individual drive still no?

PangingJr · Jul 24, 2007, 03:14 AM

Bluetoast,
for 2x hard drives in RAID 0 you should get the HD Tach's Average read at around 110-120 MB/s and this with the Volume Write-Back Cache = Disabled.
try running test again, you can leave your antivirus enabled, but don't run other program while running the test.

Bluetoast · Jul 24, 2007, 04:43 AM

pagingjr, I dont have any programs running while i ran the test.

Chaos, I can't get the utility to recognize the raid as two different individual drives.

PangingJr · Jul 24, 2007, 09:01 AM

the results didn't look good, and likes mentioned, it's like something was not right at all.

check your SATA cables, and replace them if you can.
check again to make sure that the power supply has generated enough and clean power to the hardwares

PangingJr · Jul 24, 2007, 09:25 AM

just for your info Judas, under the ICH9R, i've tried with smaller strips and volume size, but it didn't seem to help me getting a whole lot better number or anything.

6 x Seagate 80GB, RAID0, Strip size 16K, Volume size 50 GB, Volume Write-Back Cache = Enabled,
Long bench 32 mb zones...

Just Learnin' · Jul 24, 2007, 02:26 PM

Panging why does your CPU usage seem high? Incredible speeds you are getting, nothing I have come close to.

PangingJr · Jul 24, 2007, 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Just Learnin'

Panging why does your CPU usage seem high? Incredible speeds you are getting, nothing I have come close to.

i think if you test yours with 6 drives you may have about the same result as mine.

anyway, under Intel RAID, stripped drives at 16K strips will usually use higher CPU power than 128K strips.
and that was just a very quick test as i want to see the test score of 6 stripped drives and with 16K strips,
i just built the array, installed Windows, ran the test and then delete the array and they got done in a quick time.
if i were to actually use the RAID array i would manage it better.

Just Learnin' · Jul 24, 2007, 05:21 PM

Thanks for the info, never had the pleasure/opportunity of running so many at once. Was not aware that such a high cost was incurred inre CPU usage to buid a "racing array".

PangingJr · Jul 24, 2007, 05:48 PM

the speed of 6 stripped drives in 128K strips under Intel RAID controller is quite good and won't take so high CPU utilization.
however, it depends on, if you're really need to get your work done faster, and if you will really use that available hard drive space,
and you just got to spend quite a bit more power bill, include you need to get use to back up your data in the stripped drives.

Judas · Jul 24, 2007, 06:54 PM

I wish the creator of HDTach would produce another option "Longest" test of sorts, using a larger file size, say instead of the 8mb/32mb/have on that is 512mb or something, so the results are even more accurate.

In about 2 months or so, i'll most likely have either an AMD or Intel motherboard/rig at which point i'm hoping ATI's Xpress chipset has some good stripping options and intels x38 chipset is more fine tuned and available.

Just Learnin' · Jul 24, 2007, 07:07 PM

Ever tried CrystalDiskMark Judas? Not sure if it has what you want, http://crystalmark.info/software/Cry...k/index-e.html

ChaosMinionX · Jul 24, 2007, 08:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Judas

I wish the creator of HDTach would produce another option "Longest" test of sorts, using a larger file size, say instead of the 8mb/32mb/have on that is 512mb or something, so the results are even more accurate.

In about 2 months or so, i'll most likely have either an AMD or Intel motherboard/rig at which point i'm hoping ATI's Xpress chipset has some good stripping options and intels x38 chipset is more fine tuned and available.

http://www.hdtune.com/

That has longer tests I do believe.

Judas · Jul 24, 2007, 09:10 PM

i'll look at em

meon · Nov 6, 2007, 06:01 AM

just wanna share my hd tach result with you guys..
i set up 2x740adfd raid0 via Jmicron controller, but the result is not impressive.
may be i did not do it properly. just config the raid from bios, but raid software tool can find it. however windows can see it ... don't know why

Judas · Nov 6, 2007, 06:41 PM

i find the jmicron controllers don't perform all that great overall...

but your speeds look actually relatively decent... but below what you SHOULD be getting on a quality raid controller such as intels matrix

Dyre Straits · Nov 7, 2007, 11:07 AM

HD Tach 3 isn't supported under Vista. But, that HDTune app is.

PangingJr · Nov 7, 2007, 12:04 PM

if you want to see your HD Tach result to compare with other, it can still be running in Vista, but in compatibility mode for XP.
but if you want to measure the performance of your own disk drives then the HDTune program is okay too.
or if you use Everest, it also has its disk benchmarking tool for running synthetic tests on disk drives, RAID arrays, SCSI drives, etc.

Dyre Straits · Nov 8, 2007, 06:14 AM

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Originally Posted by PangingJr

if you want to see your HD Tach result to compare with other, it can still be running in Vista, but in compatibility mode for XP.
but if you want to measure the performance of your own disk drives then the HDTune program is okay too.
or if you use Everest, it also has its disk benchmarking tool for running synthetic tests on disk drives, RAID arrays, SCSI drives, etc.

Yes, I've had a few programs I've had to setup to use Compatibility Mode for XP since installing Vista 32-bit.

Also, I really like PCWizard 2008, as well. It works fine without any extra effort.

Dyre Straits · Nov 8, 2007, 11:32 AM

It seems that Vista really demands the user to jump through a few more hoops to get certain programs running. HDTach is working now after setting it up to run in XP Compatibility Mode, PLUS ticking the option to Run...as administrator.

Here are the results on my newest drive with both the 8MB and 32MB tests:

PangingJr · Nov 8, 2007, 12:18 PM

i ran HDTach in Vista long time ago, i might have forgotten or have already silently suggested you to do that. lol.
but i think Judas wants to see something even more accurate than the HDTach results.

Judas · Nov 8, 2007, 06:10 PM

actually i'm a little peeved with the latest hdtach... not sure what the author was thinking... but the previous verison of hdtach ran OUT of the box with vista... where as the new one you have to jump through hoops for.... quite backwards and rediculious me thinks..

in any case...

Yeah it would be nice if hdtach was updated significantly to produce a little more graphs and results..

for example CPU usage being graphed at the same time of the benchmark... would produce some interesting results...

more tests overall, larger test formats.....

sisoft isn't very reliable atm.... imo..

Jul 22, 2007, 05:15 PM	#63
Bluetoast DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 6 Rep Power: 0	This setup uses 2x hitachi deskstars ~150gb each @ 128kb strip size. One of my harddrives is making a loud clicking noise. I'm afraid there might be something wrong. Can anyone give me any insights on whats going on? Last edited by Bluetoast; Jul 22, 2007 at 05:30 PM.

Jul 23, 2007, 11:21 PM	#68
ChaosMinionX USB 3 dot oh Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 1,910 Rep Power: 45 System Specs	That looks like a drive is dying...have you run any SMART on them? __________________ ::Heatware:: How you can help DriverHeaven by using Digg!

Nov 6, 2007, 06:01 AM	#83
meon DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 1 Rep Power: 0	jmicron raid controller just wanna share my hd tach result with you guys.. i set up 2x740adfd raid0 via Jmicron controller, but the result is not impressive. may be i did not do it properly. just config the raid from bios, but raid software tool can find it. however windows can see it ... don't know why

Jul 23, 2007, 04:26 PM	#65
Bluetoast DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 6 Rep Power: 0	K, I'll do that right now. Do my results seem normal to you? Cuz, i dont think spiking down to 10mb's over and over seem very normal.

Jul 23, 2007, 10:01 PM	#67
Bluetoast DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 6 Rep Power: 0	heres the other result i posted earlier, not sure why it didnt show.

Jul 23, 2007, 11:47 PM	#69
Bluetoast DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 6 Rep Power: 0	I don't know how to run smart on a raid. mind explaining how.

Jul 24, 2007, 03:14 AM	#71
PangingJr Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 5,989 Rep Power: 69	Bluetoast, for 2x hard drives in RAID 0 you should get the HD Tach's Average read at around 110-120 MB/s and this with the Volume Write-Back Cache = Disabled. try running test again, you can leave your antivirus enabled, but don't run other program while running the test.

Jul 24, 2007, 04:43 AM	#72
Bluetoast DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 6 Rep Power: 0	pagingjr, I dont have any programs running while i ran the test. Chaos, I can't get the utility to recognize the raid as two different individual drives.

Jul 24, 2007, 09:01 AM	#73
PangingJr Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 5,989 Rep Power: 69	the results didn't look good, and likes mentioned, it's like something was not right at all. check your SATA cables, and replace them if you can. check again to make sure that the power supply has generated enough and clean power to the hardwares

Jul 24, 2007, 09:25 AM	#74
PangingJr Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 5,989 Rep Power: 69	just for your info Judas, under the ICH9R, i've tried with smaller strips and volume size, but it didn't seem to help me getting a whole lot better number or anything. 6 x Seagate 80GB, RAID0, Strip size 16K, Volume size 50 GB, Volume Write-Back Cache = Enabled, Long bench 32 mb zones...

Jul 24, 2007, 02:26 PM	#75
Just Learnin' HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada Posts: 1,414 Rep Power: 54 System Specs	Panging why does your CPU usage seem high? Incredible speeds you are getting, nothing I have come close to.

Jul 24, 2007, 05:21 PM	#77
Just Learnin' HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada Posts: 1,414 Rep Power: 54 System Specs	Thanks for the info, never had the pleasure/opportunity of running so many at once. Was not aware that such a high cost was incurred inre CPU usage to buid a "racing array".

Jul 24, 2007, 05:48 PM	#78
PangingJr Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 5,989 Rep Power: 69	the speed of 6 stripped drives in 128K strips under Intel RAID controller is quite good and won't take so high CPU utilization. however, it depends on, if you're really need to get your work done faster, and if you will really use that available hard drive space, and you just got to spend quite a bit more power bill, include you need to get use to back up your data in the stripped drives.

Jul 24, 2007, 07:07 PM	#80
Just Learnin' HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada Posts: 1,414 Rep Power: 54 System Specs	Ever tried CrystalDiskMark Judas? Not sure if it has what you want, http://crystalmark.info/software/Cry...k/index-e.html

Nov 7, 2007, 12:04 PM	#86
PangingJr Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 5,989 Rep Power: 69	if you want to see your HD Tach result to compare with other, it can still be running in Vista, but in compatibility mode for XP. but if you want to measure the performance of your own disk drives then the HDTune program is okay too. or if you use Everest, it also has its disk benchmarking tool for running synthetic tests on disk drives, RAID arrays, SCSI drives, etc.

Nov 8, 2007, 12:18 PM	#89
PangingJr Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 5,989 Rep Power: 69	i ran HDTach in Vista long time ago, i might have forgotten or have already silently suggested you to do that. lol. but i think Judas wants to see something even more accurate than the HDTach results.