Post your HDTach 3 Results!

Tanquen · Jan 17, 2009, 05:43 PM

Isn’t the bandwidth limit on SATA-2 300MB? How are some getting 400 and 600MB?

Also, I get a memory read error when I try to Upload Results. ???

Lowfat · Jan 17, 2009, 06:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tanquen

Isn’t the bandwidth limit on SATA-2 300MB? How are some getting 400 and 600MB?

Also, I get a memory read error when I try to Upload Results. ???

The limitation is per channel. Me and the others who are hitting above that are using a RAID setup. How are you trying to upload the results? Just take a screenshot and use photobucket,imageshack,etc.

Tanquen · Jan 17, 2009, 07:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lowfat

The limitation is per channel. Me and the others who are hitting above that are using a RAID setup. How are you trying to upload the results? Just take a screenshot and use photobucket,imageshack,etc.

Really, wow the SATA-3 6Gb/s sounds even crazier then. Do you know what the controller max is or it assumed that if it has 6 SATA-2 ports it can handle 3Gb/s on all six at once. I was just trying to use the Upload Results button. When I try it I get an Access violation error.

This is my screen cap of the RAID 0 300GB VelociRaptors:

Look ok??

Lowfat · Jan 17, 2009, 08:33 PM

I am not sure what the max of the ICH*R would be. But I assume it would be higher than drives will be for many many years (thousands of MB/s). On a dedicated controller if the drives weren't the bottleneck chances are the PCIe interface would be next. Although even then would be in the thousands of MB/s.

What stripe size are you using on your array?

Tanquen · Jan 18, 2009, 01:01 AM

I went with 128K as the directions stated it was the default and gave the best all around performance. I do think the ICH9R don't like my WD VRs though and now HD Tune shows a bad block on my Samsung 1TBs.

Lowfat · Jan 28, 2009, 08:20 PM

Rebuild my file server. 7x640 drives now. 6 in RAID5 + 1 hotspare.

not to shabby.

Judas · Jan 29, 2009, 12:45 AM

6x640gb raid 5....?

erg.... that's on the ICH10R?

cause with 6 of the seagate 7200.11's in raid 5.... i was able to obtain roughly 500mb/s on the ich9r.... over 600 in raid 0

Lowfat · Jan 29, 2009, 04:43 AM

No its on a PERC 5/i. ICH10R has very poor write speeds due to the calculations required for parity arrays. I could have 500 MB/s reads too if I disable write caching.

I'd rather take the hit on read speeds than have 50MB/s writes. Either way it is just a file server, its bottleneck is the network anyways.

Kizaki · Mar 7, 2009, 12:42 AM

If you guys are still looking for results for reference or something, here are mine. This is from an Adaptec 51245 RAID controller with 8x Seagate 1TB ST31000340NS drives. I have the drives configured in a RAID-6 array, which yields 6TB on my logical drive. HDtach didn't do any write tests. So I posted a benchmark I ran with ATTO as well.

Judas · Mar 7, 2009, 12:45 AM

WoW!

lol that's crazy!

i haven't assembled a super system yet simply due to wanting to wait for the next generational changes.... fixes.. and whatnot..

something like the x68 intel chipset... which from my understanding the ICH11R is 8 or 10 SATA 3 ports... with raids 0 through to 10 supported..

(rumors.... gotta hate em)

Kizaki · Mar 7, 2009, 01:07 AM

I just got that RAID controller a few days ago. It replaced the Adaptec 31205 I had before, which is now in its final resting place somewhere under my bed with the rest of my old hardware. The bulk of my work is editing HD video for animation I render. I use filters via AVIsynth for post processing. Upgrading the RAID controller sped that up a ton. The controller is fast enough that having a RAID-6 array made little differance in write speed compared to having 6 drives on a RAID-0 array.

I found these forums while trying to find benchmarks for different drives on my new controller. 1TB SAS drives are coming down in price. I still haven't found enough information to see if its worth moving from SATA to SAS drives.

Lowfat · Mar 7, 2009, 03:52 AM

Something wrong with the 31205? Or did you just want to go with the faster 1.2GHz IOP342 processor in the 51245?

I just ordered a 31605 a few days ago off of ebay, was originally planning on going with the 31205 because I only run 12 drives, but it was only like $50 and leaves me room to upgrade down the road.

Well here is my X25-M bench.

And a CrystalDiskMark as a bonus

Kizaki · Mar 7, 2009, 04:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lowfat

Something wrong with the 31205? Or did you just want to go with the faster 1.2GHz IOP342 processor in the 51245?

It's a dual core 1.2Ghz. That raid card has two IOPs on there.

There is nothing wrong with it unless you have tons of projects that have deadlines, and every hour counts. The labor is far more expensive than the RAID controller.

The 51245 controller I got will pay for it self in about 3-5 weeks (depending on my work load) with the amount of time it saves me. For post-processing, my bottleneck is the storage rather than the CPU in most cases.

As far as the RAID-6 goes. If I lose a project and have to start over; I am screwed. It is not practical to backup ~1.3TB (average per project) of data when it changes constantly. It takes a very long time to backup that amount in a reasonable amount of time.

Once the post-processing is done. I convert the video from uncompressed YV12 to H.264 using CRF with the quantizer set to16 which brings the file size down to a few tens of gigs. Those compressed files I do back up out side of the RAID. Yes I know, RAID is not a backup. Also the performance difference between RAID-5/6 was negligible. So I settled with RAID-6 just to be safe.

Btw, why are your write speeds slow? Are using runnnig those on RAID-5?

Lowfat · Mar 7, 2009, 05:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Kizaki

Btw, why are your write speeds slow? Are using runnnig those on RAID-5?

Its just a single Intel X25-M SSD. Writes are bang on where it should be. It excels in high I/O's. As a system/gaming drive it is exceptional. High write speeds aren't required.

Kizaki · Mar 7, 2009, 05:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Lowfat

Its just a single Intel X25-M SSD. Writes are bang on where it should be. It excels in high I/O's. As a system/gaming drive it is exceptional. High write speeds aren't required.

If you do get the 31205/31605, you will definetly see a massive boost in your write speed. With the 31205, I used to get about ~270MB in read speed, and 210MB/s in write speed. This was with a RAID-6 array.

Lowfat · Mar 7, 2009, 05:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Kizaki

If you do get the 31205/31605, you will definetly see a massive boost in your write speed. With the 31205, I used to get about ~270MB in read speed, and 210MB/s in write speed. This was with a RAID-6 array.

The 31605 will be used on a different system, just for media storage. So speed isn't really critical, just redundancy. I was using 6 drives in RAID5 + 1 hotspare on a Dell Perc5i and was maxing the controllers write speeds @ ~ 300MB/s. It only has the 533MHz processor. The 31605 the 800MHz IOP841. So I expect a slight increase with 12 drives on it. How many drives were you using before on the 31205?

Kizaki · Mar 7, 2009, 06:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Lowfat

How many drives were you using before on the 31205?

8 drives. Keep in mind I was using RAID-6. You will probably get better speeds with RAID-5 on that card.

Lowfat · Mar 18, 2009, 08:37 AM

Worst RAID card ever. This is a 12 drive RAID6. Not even doing 200 MB/s evenly. Which is the slowest setup I've had. Hell it is even slower than the single Intel SSD I use in my workstation. I don't know how RAID6 performs, but read speeds should way higher than this you would think. But thankfully as long as it gets over 100 MB/s read/writes it will be fine as I am still limited by Gigabit ethernet.

Mac Daddy · Mar 18, 2009, 12:42 PM

Wow for 12 disks in RAID that does seem slow. I have been meaning to run this and keep forgetting lol

This is a single WD 640G SataII(black) ... not RAID yet maybe next month

[hobo]eclipse · May 3, 2009, 06:46 PM

3 x Seagate 7200.10 320GB-ICHR10-X3360@3.5-270GB fast slice

Mac Daddy · May 3, 2009, 07:26 PM

Cool man nice results

I noted that the transfer speeds tapered off on my drive and everyone elses seems to remain pretty much level. Any ideas or is that normal for a single drive not using RAID?

[hobo]eclipse · May 3, 2009, 09:10 PM

yes that is normal for a single drive and even in my case multiple drives in raid 0.

i am using the first 90GB (x3) of each drive to create the 1st volume(270GB), thus giving the fastest and consistent speeds, and the remainder forms a 640GB 2nd volume that tapers off much the same as yours. In my case if i had created one volume with the total of the 3 drives it would read pretty consistent across the 1st 1/3 of the volume with the 2/3 left tapering as we are seeing. this has to do with different read and write speeds on different parts of the platters (inside and outside areas, and even the amounts of platters) Creating a "fastslice" ensures all your installed programs and data are read and wrote to/from the fastest part of the array.

here are the results from my 2nd volume on the 3x 320GB 7200.9 array.

Mac Daddy · May 4, 2009, 12:41 AM

Ok cool thanks for the explanation man. I see most of the results as a fairly straight line so I guess more people are running RAID1 (and up) than I thought

Lowfat · May 5, 2009, 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Mac Daddy

Ok cool thanks for the explanation man. I see most of the results as a fairly straight line so I guess more people are running RAID1 (and up) than I thought

with the people who are running straight lines we either using SSDs or we are hitting the controllers limitations.

Mac Daddy · May 5, 2009, 01:25 PM

Good to know thanks Lowfat

Judas · May 5, 2009, 05:47 PM

ICH11R is "expected" to present a solution for the controller limitations when it comes to SSD's as well as Raiding them together. (PCI-ex 3?)

Jan 17, 2009, 05:43 PM	#121
Tanquen DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 12 Rep Power: 0	Re: Post your HDTach 3 Results! Isn’t the bandwidth limit on SATA-2 300MB? How are some getting 400 and 600MB? Also, I get a memory read error when I try to Upload Results. ??? __________________ GIGABYTE GA-X48-DS5 MB w/ Zalman RESERATOR 1 and 2 in series Water Cooling Intel Quad Q9450 3.2GHz - OCZ Platinum 4GB (2 x 2GB) DDR2 1066 2 Sapphire HD4870 Video Cards - SoundBlaster X-Fi 2 VelociRaptor 300GB - 2 1TB SAMSUNG HD103UJ 1TB 7200 RPM (RAID 0) Power Supply Silverstone SST-ST1200 1200W DVD-RW Sony DRU-820A & LG Blu-ray/HD DVD-ROM GGC-H20L 2 Dell 27" 2707s on Ergotron HD Dual-Monitor Arm Some pics. Last edited by Tanquen; Jan 17, 2009 at 05:54 PM.

Jan 17, 2009, 08:33 PM	#124
Lowfat Xtreme Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Grande Prairie, AB, Can Posts: 4,251 Rep Power: 99	Re: Post your HDTach 3 Results! I am not sure what the max of the ICHR would be. But I assume it would be higher than drives will be for many many years (thousands of MB/s). On a dedicated controller if the drives weren't the bottleneck chances are the PCIe interface would be next. Although even then would be in the thousands of MB/s. What stripe size are you using on your array? __________________ 27" iMac: i5 750 80GB X25-M G1 * 4GB DDR3 * HD4850 Stacker: 2600k * P8P67 Pro * 4GB DDR3 * 80GB ioXtreme * 30GB X25-E * (2) HD6950 * Asus D2 * Enermax Revo85+ HWD: (2) Xeon E5649 * EVGA SR-2 * 6GB DDR3 * 8800GTS * 1000W Antec FT01BW: (2) Xeon E5645 * EVGA SR-2 * 6GB DDR3 * GTS210 * Gigabyte 800W Odin GT Storage: (2) Sans Digital TR8M-B * 29TB

Jan 18, 2009, 01:01 AM	#125
Tanquen DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 12 Rep Power: 0	Re: Post your HDTach 3 Results! I went with 128K as the directions stated it was the default and gave the best all around performance. I do think the ICH9R don't like my WD VRs though and now HD Tune shows a bad block on my Samsung 1TBs. __________________ GIGABYTE GA-X48-DS5 MB w/ Zalman RESERATOR 1 and 2 in series Water Cooling Intel Quad Q9450 3.2GHz - OCZ Platinum 4GB (2 x 2GB) DDR2 1066 2 Sapphire HD4870 Video Cards - SoundBlaster X-Fi 2 VelociRaptor 300GB - 2 1TB SAMSUNG HD103UJ 1TB 7200 RPM (RAID 0) Power Supply Silverstone SST-ST1200 1200W DVD-RW Sony DRU-820A & LG Blu-ray/HD DVD-ROM GGC-H20L 2 Dell 27" 2707s on Ergotron HD Dual-Monitor Arm Some pics.

Jan 28, 2009, 08:20 PM	#126
Lowfat Xtreme Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Grande Prairie, AB, Can Posts: 4,251 Rep Power: 99	Re: Post your HDTach 3 Results! Rebuild my file server. 7x640 drives now. 6 in RAID5 + 1 hotspare. not to shabby. __________________ 27" iMac: i5 750 * 80GB X25-M G1 * 4GB DDR3 * HD4850 Stacker: 2600k * P8P67 Pro * 4GB DDR3 * 80GB ioXtreme * 30GB X25-E * (2) HD6950 * Asus D2 * Enermax Revo85+ HWD: (2) Xeon E5649 * EVGA SR-2 * 6GB DDR3 * 8800GTS * 1000W Antec FT01BW: (2) Xeon E5645 * EVGA SR-2 * 6GB DDR3 * GTS210 * Gigabyte 800W Odin GT Storage: (2) Sans Digital TR8M-B * 29TB

Jan 29, 2009, 04:43 AM	#128
Lowfat Xtreme Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Grande Prairie, AB, Can Posts: 4,251 Rep Power: 99	Re: Post your HDTach 3 Results! No its on a PERC 5/i. ICH10R has very poor write speeds due to the calculations required for parity arrays. I could have 500 MB/s reads too if I disable write caching. I'd rather take the hit on read speeds than have 50MB/s writes. Either way it is just a file server, its bottleneck is the network anyways. __________________ 27" iMac: i5 750 * 80GB X25-M G1 * 4GB DDR3 * HD4850 Stacker: 2600k * P8P67 Pro * 4GB DDR3 * 80GB ioXtreme * 30GB X25-E * (2) HD6950 * Asus D2 * Enermax Revo85+ HWD: (2) Xeon E5649 * EVGA SR-2 * 6GB DDR3 * 8800GTS * 1000W Antec FT01BW: (2) Xeon E5645 * EVGA SR-2 * 6GB DDR3 * GTS210 * Gigabyte 800W Odin GT Storage: (2) Sans Digital TR8M-B * 29TB

Mar 7, 2009, 12:42 AM	#129
Kizaki DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 5 Rep Power: 0	Re: Post your HDTach 3 Results! If you guys are still looking for results for reference or something, here are mine. This is from an Adaptec 51245 RAID controller with 8x Seagate 1TB ST31000340NS drives. I have the drives configured in a RAID-6 array, which yields 6TB on my logical drive. HDtach didn't do any write tests. So I posted a benchmark I ran with ATTO as well.

Mar 7, 2009, 01:07 AM	#131
Kizaki DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 5 Rep Power: 0	Re: Post your HDTach 3 Results! I just got that RAID controller a few days ago. It replaced the Adaptec 31205 I had before, which is now in its final resting place somewhere under my bed with the rest of my old hardware. The bulk of my work is editing HD video for animation I render. I use filters via AVIsynth for post processing. Upgrading the RAID controller sped that up a ton. The controller is fast enough that having a RAID-6 array made little differance in write speed compared to having 6 drives on a RAID-0 array. I found these forums while trying to find benchmarks for different drives on my new controller. 1TB SAS drives are coming down in price. I still haven't found enough information to see if its worth moving from SATA to SAS drives.

Mar 7, 2009, 03:52 AM	#132
Lowfat Xtreme Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Grande Prairie, AB, Can Posts: 4,251 Rep Power: 99	Re: Post your HDTach 3 Results! Something wrong with the 31205? Or did you just want to go with the faster 1.2GHz IOP342 processor in the 51245? I just ordered a 31605 a few days ago off of ebay, was originally planning on going with the 31205 because I only run 12 drives, but it was only like $50 and leaves me room to upgrade down the road. Well here is my X25-M bench. And a CrystalDiskMark as a bonus __________________ 27" iMac: i5 750 * 80GB X25-M G1 * 4GB DDR3 * HD4850 Stacker: 2600k * P8P67 Pro * 4GB DDR3 * 80GB ioXtreme * 30GB X25-E * (2) HD6950 * Asus D2 * Enermax Revo85+ HWD: (2) Xeon E5649 * EVGA SR-2 * 6GB DDR3 * 8800GTS * 1000W Antec FT01BW: (2) Xeon E5645 * EVGA SR-2 * 6GB DDR3 * GTS210 * Gigabyte 800W Odin GT Storage: (2) Sans Digital TR8M-B * 29TB

Mar 18, 2009, 08:37 AM	#138
Lowfat Xtreme Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Grande Prairie, AB, Can Posts: 4,251 Rep Power: 99	Re: Post your HDTach 3 Results! Worst RAID card ever. This is a 12 drive RAID6. Not even doing 200 MB/s evenly. Which is the slowest setup I've had. Hell it is even slower than the single Intel SSD I use in my workstation. I don't know how RAID6 performs, but read speeds should way higher than this you would think. But thankfully as long as it gets over 100 MB/s read/writes it will be fine as I am still limited by Gigabit ethernet. __________________ 27" iMac: i5 750 * 80GB X25-M G1 * 4GB DDR3 * HD4850 Stacker: 2600k * P8P67 Pro * 4GB DDR3 * 80GB ioXtreme * 30GB X25-E * (2) HD6950 * Asus D2 * Enermax Revo85+ HWD: (2) Xeon E5649 * EVGA SR-2 * 6GB DDR3 * 8800GTS * 1000W Antec FT01BW: (2) Xeon E5645 * EVGA SR-2 * 6GB DDR3 * GTS210 * Gigabyte 800W Odin GT Storage: (2) Sans Digital TR8M-B * 29TB

Mar 18, 2009, 12:42 PM	#139
Mac Daddy DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 7,950 Rep Power: 78 System Specs	Re: Post your HDTach 3 Results! Wow for 12 disks in RAID that does seem slow. I have been meaning to run this and keep forgetting lol This is a single WD 640G SataII(black) ... not RAID yet maybe next month Attached Thumbnails __________________ "My mom said the only reason men are alive is for lawn care and vehicle maintenance." - Tim Allen

May 3, 2009, 06:46 PM	#140
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May 3, 2009, 07:26 PM	#141
Mac Daddy DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 7,950 Rep Power: 78 System Specs	Re: Post your HDTach 3 Results! Cool man nice results I noted that the transfer speeds tapered off on my drive and everyone elses seems to remain pretty much level. Any ideas or is that normal for a single drive not using RAID? __________________ "My mom said the only reason men are alive is for lawn care and vehicle maintenance." - Tim Allen

May 3, 2009, 09:10 PM	#142
[hobo]eclipse ...just bummin 'round Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 2,897 Rep Power: 107 System Specs	Re: Post your HDTach 3 Results! yes that is normal for a single drive and even in my case multiple drives in raid 0. i am using the first 90GB (x3) of each drive to create the 1st volume(270GB), thus giving the fastest and consistent speeds, and the remainder forms a 640GB 2nd volume that tapers off much the same as yours. In my case if i had created one volume with the total of the 3 drives it would read pretty consistent across the 1st 1/3 of the volume with the 2/3 left tapering as we are seeing. this has to do with different read and write speeds on different parts of the platters (inside and outside areas, and even the amounts of platters) Creating a "fastslice" ensures all your installed programs and data are read and wrote to/from the fastest part of the array. here are the results from my 2nd volume on the 3x 320GB 7200.9 array. Attached Thumbnails

May 4, 2009, 12:41 AM	#143
Mac Daddy DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 7,950 Rep Power: 78 System Specs	Re: Post your HDTach 3 Results! Ok cool thanks for the explanation man. I see most of the results as a fairly straight line so I guess more people are running RAID1 (and up) than I thought __________________ "My mom said the only reason men are alive is for lawn care and vehicle maintenance." - Tim Allen

May 5, 2009, 01:25 PM	#145
Mac Daddy DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 7,950 Rep Power: 78 System Specs	Re: Post your HDTach 3 Results! Good to know thanks Lowfat __________________ "My mom said the only reason men are alive is for lawn care and vehicle maintenance." - Tim Allen