!HORRIBLE! scores in 3dmark05

nitrousoxide52 · Jan 22, 2005, 04:04 AM

My test scores in 3dmark05 are 1400-1500......!!!! AHHHH!!!!!!!
I have amd athlon xp 3000+ and Radeon 9600xt.....
Is it me or should my score be alot higher?
Can someone please help me?

CDsDontBurn · Jan 22, 2005, 04:12 AM

what drivers are you using? Are you using the latest ATI/omega drivers? What about your chipset drivers? Usually the newest available drivers help out your scores quite a bit. Speaking of chipset, what chipset do you have? Is it the nForce 2 chipset, VIA, or SIS? How much memory do you have in your system?

Give us more specs on your system.

nitrousoxide52 · Jan 22, 2005, 06:00 AM

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Originally Posted by CDsDontBurn

what drivers are you using? Are you using the latest ATI/omega drivers? What about your chipset drivers? Usually the newest available drivers help out your scores quite a bit. Speaking of chipset, what chipset do you have? Is it the nForce 2 chipset, VIA, or SIS? How much memory do you have in your system?

Give us more specs on your system.

I'm using the latest omega drivers, I'm not sure about my chipset drivers though, i will check on those, and I think I have a VIA chipset, 512mb DDR333, and im planning on buying 512mb more.

PS: what program can I use to ID my system thoroughly?

CDsDontBurn · Jan 22, 2005, 06:08 AM

sandra, CPU-Z are two programs i use all the time to find the most accurate specs on my system

. If you want, get rid of your DDR333 and get DDR400. Then you'll be able to OC your 3000+ and get some better scores in 3Dmark

nitrousoxide52 · Jan 22, 2005, 06:19 AM

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Originally Posted by CDsDontBurn

sandra, CPU-Z are two programs i use all the time to find the most accurate specs on my system

. If you want, get rid of your DDR333 and get DDR400. Then you'll be able to OC your 3000+ and get some better scores in 3Dmark

Ok it is VIA, and I have found some new drivers, I will download those and test again.

nitrousoxide52 · Jan 22, 2005, 06:35 AM

Just tested again, and it's still in the same range of 1400-1500 (1497)

nitrousoxide52 · Jan 22, 2005, 06:37 AM

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Originally Posted by CDsDontBurn

sandra, CPU-Z are two programs i use all the time to find the most accurate specs on my system

. If you want, get rid of your DDR333 and get DDR400. Then you'll be able to OC your 3000+ and get some better scores in 3Dmark

So I should just get a stick of DDR400 instead of adding another DDR333?
You can't mix DDR's correct?

TJ- · Jan 22, 2005, 06:53 AM

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Originally Posted by nitrousoxide52

My test scores in 3dmark05 are 1400-1500......!!!! AHHHH!!!!!!!
I have amd athlon xp 3000+ and Radeon 9600xt.....
Is it me or should my score be alot higher?
Can someone please help me?

thats about right, i got amd 3000 with a 9600XT ddr400 512 memory and i get about the same scores with omegas... Try 3dmark 03 and u should get around 3750...

CDsDontBurn · Jan 22, 2005, 07:00 AM

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Originally Posted by nitrousoxide52

So I should just get a stick of DDR400 instead of adding another DDR333?
You can't mix DDR's correct?

true. I meant to say you should get rid of your DDR333 stick, and get two DDR400s. w/the DDR400 in place, you will be able to overclock your CPU, then that way you can start getting higher scores.

nitrousoxide52 · Jan 22, 2005, 07:05 AM

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Originally Posted by battleaxe187

thats about right, i got amd 3000 with a 9600XT ddr400 512 memory and i get about the same scores with omegas... Try 3dmark 03 and u should get around 3750...

Testing.
I'll post my 3dmark03 score when im done.

nitrousoxide52 · Jan 22, 2005, 07:06 AM

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Originally Posted by CDsDontBurn

true. I meant to say you should get rid of your DDR333 stick, and get two DDR400s. w/the DDR400 in place, you will be able to overclock your CPU, then that way you can start getting higher scores.

Ok i'll be able to atleast get one stick of that DDR400 this weekend, if not both.

CDsDontBurn · Jan 22, 2005, 07:12 AM

Well, do this. When you get the stick of memory take out the DDR333 stick, and run just the DDR400 stick in your system. Try overclocking your system a little bit by manually raising the FSB (1Mhz at a time...remember to increase voltages to maintain system stability) and re-benching your system in 3Dmark. OCing your CPU you'll find out will give you just what you need to break 1,500.

Also try finding some program to OC your video card. Back when i had my 9700pro, i used Rage3D to overclock it. But i'm aware that the XT series of cards have Overdrive. But there are also other programs out there that will allow you to OC your card. Just use what you feel most comfortable with.

nitrousoxide52 · Jan 22, 2005, 07:16 AM

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Originally Posted by CDsDontBurn

Well, do this. When you get the stick of memory take out the DDR333 stick, and run just the DDR400 stick in your system. Try overclocking your system a little bit by manually raising the FSB (1Mhz at a time...remember to increase voltages to maintain system stability) and re-benching your system in 3Dmark. OCing your CPU you'll find out will give you just what you need to break 1,500.

Also try finding some program to OC your video card. Back when i had my 9700pro, i used Rage3D to overclock it. But i'm aware that the XT series of cards have Overdrive. But there are also other programs out there that will allow you to OC your card. Just use what you feel most comfortable with.

I use radlinker and ATI tray tools to overclock the video card currently, but have come to found that ATI tray tools overclocking tends to cause system instabibility.

CDsDontBurn · Jan 22, 2005, 07:18 AM

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Originally Posted by nitrousoxide52

I use radlinker and ATI tray tools to overclock the video card currently, but have come to found that ATI tray tools overclocking tends to cause system instabibility.

well, like i said, use what you feel most comfortable with.

nitrousoxide52 · Jan 22, 2005, 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by battleaxe187

thats about right, i got amd 3000 with a 9600XT ddr400 512 memory and i get about the same scores with omegas... Try 3dmark 03 and u should get around 3750...

On 3dmark03 I got 3824.

TJ- · Jan 22, 2005, 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by nitrousoxide52

On 3dmark03 I got 3824.

3750-3824...pretty much the same thing.... in 3d mark 05 on the second test of the air balloon thing are the graphics buggy and squarish, terrible in other words. Getting 1fps.?

cds dont burn this is the memory igot...is it any good...?

Memory Slot 1/3

Installed Enabled Size 512 MB Form Factor DIMM Frequency 0.0 Hz Slot DIMM0 [BANK0] Manufacturer Manufacturer0 Type SDRAM Type Details Synchronous Enabled Size 512 MB Total Bit Width 64 b Data Bit Width 64 b

CDsDontBurn · Jan 22, 2005, 11:06 AM

3Dmark03 is a more gfx card based game more than anything. Of course having a good CPU does affect your score in that test, you will notice that overclocking your CPU will not give you much of an increase in your scores as would overclocking your gfx card will.

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Originally Posted by battleaxe187

3750-3824...pretty much the same thing.... in 3d mark 05 on the second test of the air balloon thing are the graphics buggy and squarish, terrible in other words. Getting 1fps.?

cds dont burn this is the memory igot...is it any good...?

Memory Slot 1/3

Installed Enabled Size 512 MB Form Factor DIMM Frequency 0.0 Hz Slot DIMM0 [BANK0] Manufacturer Manufacturer0 Type SDRAM Type Details Synchronous Enabled Size 512 MB Total Bit Width 64 b Data Bit Width 64 b

who is the manufacturer of the memory you have? What are the timings you have on the memory when you benchmark? Having the tightest timings possible also affects your score. Are you running your memory syncronous or asyncronous w/your CPU? Also, just because you have DDR400, that doesn't mean you're running your memory at 400Mhz. If your MoBo supports dual channel DDR, then i recommend that you use that feature. It will also improve not just your 3Dmarks score, but also just overall performance of your computer.

When benchmarking you want to have good memory, CPU, and video card to have the best score possible.

davidnsibs · Jan 22, 2005, 11:15 AM

On 3DMark05 with all at stock I get 1708, the 9500pro and 9600xt tend to benchmark about the same across a variety of games. I wouldnt worry too much. 3d05 is silly, even the top of the range systems arnt getting over 30fps in all the game tests, games just arn't gonna hurt your system that bad for a long time, and when they do theyll look a lot better, its not been very well optimised at all imho

CDsDontBurn · Jan 22, 2005, 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by davidnsibs

On 3DMark05 with all at stock I get 1708, the 9500pro and 9600xt tend to benchmark about the same across a variety of games. I wouldnt worry too much. 3d05 is silly, even the top of the range systems arnt getting over 30fps in all the game tests, games just arn't gonna hurt your system that bad for a long time, and when they do theyll look a lot better, its not been very well optimised at all imho

true, but the higher the score in 3Dmark (all), the higher your FPS and quality settings you can use in games. A 9500pro is definately better than the 9600xt. All a 9500pro is, is pretty much a watered down 9700pro.

jasonbourne · Jan 22, 2005, 12:37 PM

I Scored 3006 With The New Ati's Drivers .is That Horrible For Me Too?

CDsDontBurn · Jan 22, 2005, 04:37 PM

you guys aren't scoring all that bad. You guys are right where you're supposed to be at. But if you want to score higher on 3Dmark, then you gotta tweak out your system as much as possible. Overclocking is a gimme, but you also need to disable any services and/or background programs running on your machine taking up rescourses (sp?) to give you a better score on your system.

nitrousoxide52 · Jan 22, 2005, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by CDsDontBurn

you guys aren't scoring all that bad. You guys are right where you're supposed to be at. But if you want to score higher on 3Dmark, then you gotta tweak out your system as much as possible. Overclocking is a gimme, but you also need to disable any services and/or background programs running on your machine taking up rescourses (sp?) to give you a better score on your system.

Can you give us a link to a website that says what is safe to turn off and what is not?

nitrousoxide52 · Jan 22, 2005, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by battleaxe187

3750-3824...pretty much the same thing.... in 3d mark 05 on the second test of the air balloon thing are the graphics buggy and squarish, terrible in other words. Getting 1fps.?

Yes because thats a cpu test, so I think it focuses more on the CPU power than on the graphic power.

nitrousoxide52 · Jan 22, 2005, 07:13 PM

This is the RAM I'm thinking of picking up, is it good,and is it good for the price displayed?

http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/Produc...ctCode=80098-5

CDsDontBurn · Jan 23, 2005, 04:47 AM

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Originally Posted by nitrousoxide52

Can you give us a link to a website that says what is safe to turn off and what is not?

Just go to Start>run>and type msconfig. When the window pops up go to the "start up" tab and simply go through it. Uncheck anything you do not need to auto start upon start up of your computer.

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Originally Posted by nitrousoxide52

This is the RAM I'm thinking of picking up, is it good,and is it good for the price displayed?

http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/Produ...uctCode=80098-5

corsair is good memory, but if you want better performing memory, you want to have at least CL (Cas Latency) 2.5. Memory timings are also play a part in getting better scores and FPS in games. The lower/tighter the timings on memory, the better score you can get in 3Dmark and higher FPS you can get in games. Check out newegg under "Any DDR400 512Mb" and just go through the list, and pick what you can afford that has a CL 2.5 or better. My preferences are: Corsair, Mushkin, Crucial, Buffalo, Geil, and OCZ. If you don't want to buy from newegg, buy from where ever you want to buy, but any of those companies.

nitrousoxide52 · Jan 23, 2005, 05:41 AM

What does it mean when it has dashes in the number for the CL latency?
Like, 2.5-6-3-3.

CDsDontBurn · Jan 23, 2005, 07:48 AM

those are the timings for the memory. The lower the timings, the better. The best timings available for DDR400 are 2-2-2-5. But for memory w/those timings, you'll be paying an arm and a leg.

http://www.cooltechzone.com/index.ph...d=377&Itemid=0

check out that read on memory timings. It'll explain some things better than i will be able to.

nitrousoxide52 · Jan 23, 2005, 05:06 PM

Since you know better than I will ever know, can you tell me what the best stick of RAM I will be able to get off of newegg for under, say 80$?

CDsDontBurn · Jan 23, 2005, 05:43 PM

Any of these will do you fine

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduc...150-619&depa=0

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduc...146-219&depa=0

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduc...145-026&depa=0

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduc...144-305&depa=0

snake · Jan 23, 2005, 06:28 PM

Well timings are important but are very weak compare to your gfx card. My OC 9700Pro gives me around 2500 in 3DMark05 with my actual config, so 3000 with a 9800XT and 1800 with a 9600XT seem quite correct after all

Jan 22, 2005, 04:04 AM	#1
nitrousoxide52 Driverheaven.com err .net Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 1,719 Rep Power: 0	!HORRIBLE! scores in 3dmark05 My test scores in 3dmark05 are 1400-1500......!!!! AHHHH!!!!!!! I have amd athlon xp 3000+ and Radeon 9600xt..... Is it me or should my score be alot higher? Can someone please help me?

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CDsDontBurn Lurking DriverHeaven Join Date: May 2003 Location: Southern California Posts: 22,779 Rep Power: 235 System Specs	what drivers are you using? Are you using the latest ATI/omega drivers? What about your chipset drivers? Usually the newest available drivers help out your scores quite a bit. Speaking of chipset, what chipset do you have? Is it the nForce 2 chipset, VIA, or SIS? How much memory do you have in your system? Give us more specs on your system. __________________ Her First Day \| A year later

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CDsDontBurn Lurking DriverHeaven Join Date: May 2003 Location: Southern California Posts: 22,779 Rep Power: 235 System Specs	sandra, CPU-Z are two programs i use all the time to find the most accurate specs on my system . If you want, get rid of your DDR333 and get DDR400. Then you'll be able to OC your 3000+ and get some better scores in 3Dmark __________________ Her First Day \| A year later

Jan 22, 2005, 07:12 AM	#12
CDsDontBurn Lurking DriverHeaven Join Date: May 2003 Location: Southern California Posts: 22,779 Rep Power: 235 System Specs	Well, do this. When you get the stick of memory take out the DDR333 stick, and run just the DDR400 stick in your system. Try overclocking your system a little bit by manually raising the FSB (1Mhz at a time...remember to increase voltages to maintain system stability) and re-benching your system in 3Dmark. OCing your CPU you'll find out will give you just what you need to break 1,500. Also try finding some program to OC your video card. Back when i had my 9700pro, i used Rage3D to overclock it. But i'm aware that the XT series of cards have Overdrive. But there are also other programs out there that will allow you to OC your card. Just use what you feel most comfortable with. __________________ Her First Day \| A year later

Jan 22, 2005, 11:15 AM	#18
davidnsibs 9500pro Forever Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Bath, UK Posts: 273 Rep Power: 0	On 3DMark05 with all at stock I get 1708, the 9500pro and 9600xt tend to benchmark about the same across a variety of games. I wouldnt worry too much. 3d05 is silly, even the top of the range systems arnt getting over 30fps in all the game tests, games just arn't gonna hurt your system that bad for a long time, and when they do theyll look a lot better, its not been very well optimised at all imho __________________ Goodbye 9500pro, you've been a faithful servant through Half life, Deus Ex, Unreal 2, Max Payne 1+2, Nolf 1+2, CoD, Far Cry, Civ IV, F.E.A.R and many more

Jan 22, 2005, 06:35 AM	Thread Starter #6
nitrousoxide52 Driverheaven.com err .net Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 1,719 Rep Power: 0	Just tested again, and it's still in the same range of 1400-1500 (1497)

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jasonbourne DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: great yarmouth uk Posts: 1,082 Rep Power: 0	I Scored 3006 With The New Ati's Drivers .is That Horrible For Me Too? __________________ http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y28...asonBourne.jpg

Jan 22, 2005, 04:37 PM	#21
CDsDontBurn Lurking DriverHeaven Join Date: May 2003 Location: Southern California Posts: 22,779 Rep Power: 235 System Specs	you guys aren't scoring all that bad. You guys are right where you're supposed to be at. But if you want to score higher on 3Dmark, then you gotta tweak out your system as much as possible. Overclocking is a gimme, but you also need to disable any services and/or background programs running on your machine taking up rescourses (sp?) to give you a better score on your system. __________________ Her First Day \| A year later

Jan 22, 2005, 07:13 PM	Thread Starter #24
nitrousoxide52 Driverheaven.com err .net Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 1,719 Rep Power: 0	This is the RAM I'm thinking of picking up, is it good,and is it good for the price displayed? http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/Produc...ctCode=80098-5

Jan 23, 2005, 05:41 AM	Thread Starter #26
nitrousoxide52 Driverheaven.com err .net Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 1,719 Rep Power: 0	What does it mean when it has dashes in the number for the CL latency? Like, 2.5-6-3-3.

Jan 23, 2005, 07:48 AM	#27
CDsDontBurn Lurking DriverHeaven Join Date: May 2003 Location: Southern California Posts: 22,779 Rep Power: 235 System Specs	those are the timings for the memory. The lower the timings, the better. The best timings available for DDR400 are 2-2-2-5. But for memory w/those timings, you'll be paying an arm and a leg. http://www.cooltechzone.com/index.ph...d=377&Itemid=0 check out that read on memory timings. It'll explain some things better than i will be able to. __________________ Her First Day \| A year later

Jan 23, 2005, 05:06 PM	Thread Starter #28
nitrousoxide52 Driverheaven.com err .net Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 1,719 Rep Power: 0	Since you know better than I will ever know, can you tell me what the best stick of RAM I will be able to get off of newegg for under, say 80$?

Jan 23, 2005, 05:43 PM	#29
CDsDontBurn Lurking DriverHeaven Join Date: May 2003 Location: Southern California Posts: 22,779 Rep Power: 235 System Specs	Any of these will do you fine http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduc...150-619&depa=0 http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduc...146-219&depa=0 http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduc...145-026&depa=0 http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduc...144-305&depa=0 __________________ Her First Day \| A year later

Jan 23, 2005, 06:28 PM	#30
snake HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: France Posts: 422 Rep Power: 65 System Specs	Well timings are important but are very weak compare to your gfx card. My OC 9700Pro gives me around 2500 in 3DMark05 with my actual config, so 3000 with a 9800XT and 1800 with a 9600XT seem quite correct after all __________________ i7 930@4Ghz-DFI T3EH6-6Go OCZPC12800-GTX480+8800GT Barton 2600+@2.16 (188x11.5) # GeForce 6800 GT@Ultra 1.5Go PC3200 #Asus A7N8X Deluxe Bios 1008 26397 3DMark06/ 57736 3DMark01/163152 Aquamark3