My 3DMark score, have a laugh why don't you.

***craig5320*** · Dec 23, 2002, 02:23 AM

Well I've seen a lot of talk of 3DMarks recently, and until now I've restrained from running one myself... because I knew it'd be bad.

But well I did anyway.

2,802

I'm utterly ashamed

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=5410320

check it out, have a laugh at my expense

craig5320

JavaFox · Dec 23, 2002, 03:13 AM

Mwahahahahahaha!

There. Happy?

Zarathustra · Dec 23, 2002, 03:51 AM

That is simply amazing man!

Vampyromaniac · Dec 23, 2002, 03:59 AM

Hey, cool! Someone to actually look up to my 3285!

Zarathustra · Dec 23, 2002, 04:29 AM

This one score of mine should make you feel better

***craig5320*** · Dec 23, 2002, 04:33 AM

Wooo!

thanks for that

ToshiroOC · Dec 23, 2002, 04:33 AM

Don't worry man - my monstrous AXP system, with 320gb of storage, 512mb of ram, and a brand-name video card, pulls around 3500 fully overclocked, 2500 not. I don't have compare links because I never felt like it was worth having up... it angers me so much when people with geforce 4's (like one of my friends) whine when they say that they can't break 10k 3dmarks in 1600x1200... I'm lucky if I can get menus to show up in 1600x1200, much less real 3d graphix. Even old quake 2 stuffs (counterstrike anyone?) hit around 20fps at that resolution, and they are missing out on 150fps... damn... I really need a new video card...

mbeeston · Dec 23, 2002, 06:23 AM

tosh... what is the video card?

ToshiroOC · Dec 23, 2002, 07:12 AM

Vid card is a GF2 GTS 32mb, but its not a real GTS, its some wierd gts-v variant that's underclocked and has very little overclocking room on the GPU - I just call it a GF2MX to avoid confusion, but its an underclocked GF2GTS...

mbeeston · Dec 23, 2002, 09:08 AM

gf2gtsLE ? lol nice

new card time

fornicatarachnid · Dec 23, 2002, 09:51 AM

Ive got a real GF2 GTS and I'm in the middle of downloadin

the 3D Mark test......(56k modem

)

I'll post my score later

It will give me something to compare my new system to when I

finally get round to building it next month

digitalwanderer · Dec 23, 2002, 02:20 PM

Bubble's with a Voodoo3

Bubble's with a 64MB GF2 MX400 (240/420)

Blue with 32MB radeon 7200 183/183

I had a GTS-V too for a while, but I passed it on to a friend and kept the GF2 MX400....the MX400 was the better card! (It's a sweet MX400, abit siluro.

)

Your score isn't that shabby, it's about what I started this year with as me best. I CAN'T WAIT TO SEE WHAT THE NEXT YEAR WILL BRING!!!!!!

EDITED BITS: BTW-I'm on a 56K too, you have me sympathies. If it's any consolation I've been finding there ain't a whole lot you can't do with a 56K that you can do with a T3, it just takes a bit longer.

fornicatarachnid · Dec 23, 2002, 04:01 PM

As promised, here's my score....3709

Im chuffed to bits

My scores better than Craigs he he

BTW Dig, it looks like you were wrong to swap your GTS for an

MX400 cos if you compare mine and Craigs scores the GTS is

obviously the better card

***craig5320*** · Dec 23, 2002, 04:05 PM

Yup He's right, I will have my revenge

digitalwanderer · Dec 23, 2002, 04:16 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by fornicatarachnid
BTW Dig, it looks like you were wrong to swap your GTS for an

MX400 cos if you compare mine and Craigs scores the GTS is

obviously the better card

ROFLMAOTTRIME~~~~~~~

Don't try and teach your grandpa how to skin cats! Do you seriously think I just chose the MX400 over the GTS-V on a whim? This is me we're talking about, I threw those puppies through the grinder to decide 'tween 'em!

The GTS-V did bench about 20 points higher in 3dm2k1, but it wasn't as solid feeling about it and doesn't have half as nice a 2D as my MX400. (Not to mention the MX400 is really a T400, an MX400 w/tv-out.

)

Seriously, I kept the better card. I know a GF2 GTS is normally a better card than a GF2 MX400, but a no-name GF2 GTS-V wasn't better than me Abit Siluro T400. It just wasn't.

The_Neon_Cowboy · Dec 23, 2002, 04:40 PM

pik up a Geforce 4200 Ti for about $140 and you'll about triple if not quadriple your score... your video card is your weak link there

***craig5320*** · Dec 23, 2002, 04:55 PM

^ I'm in the UK, Ti4200's which is what I'm after are about $225-$250

fornicatarachnid · Dec 23, 2002, 05:38 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by digitalwanderer
ROFLMAOTTRIME~~~~~~~

Don't try and teach your grandpa how to skin cats! Do you seriously think I just chose the MX400 over the GTS-V on a whim? This is me we're talking about, I threw those puppies through the grinder to decide 'tween 'em!

The GTS-V did bench about 20 points higher in 3dm2k1, but it wasn't as solid feeling about it and doesn't have half as nice a 2D as my MX400. (Not to mention the MX400 is really a T400, an MX400 w/tv-out. )

Seriously, I kept the better card. I know a GF2 GTS is normally a better card than a GF2 MX400, but a no-name GF2 GTS-V wasn't better than me Abit Siluro T400. It just wasn't.

All Ive got to go off is the figures Dig and they don't lie

Craig has a faster CPU than me (1404 v's 1276)....more memory

(512mb v's 384mb) yet his score was a massive

907 points lower than mine which in my 'humble'

opinion, 'grandpa', is purely down to my GTS ( an Asus BTW)

***craig5320*** · Dec 23, 2002, 05:43 PM

My MX400 is Creative 3D Blaster

Zarathustra · Dec 23, 2002, 05:44 PM

Here's my best GF2GTS score. I threw it back in during my Ti4600 review and decided to see if I could break 5k. Almost did, I'm sure it will blow past that mark with the 40.xx series. But I don't have the card anymore.

fornicatarachnid · Dec 23, 2002, 05:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by craig5320
^ I'm in the UK, Ti4200's which is what I'm after are about $225-$250

mmmm, dunno where you do your shopping Craig but you can

get the card you want a lot cheaper than that. Have a look

here

***craig5320*** · Dec 23, 2002, 05:57 PM

that's still nearly $200 inc delivery and thats for a 64mb version

fornicatarachnid · Dec 23, 2002, 06:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by craig5320
that's still nearly $200 inc delivery and thats for a 64mb version

Just one question Craig....why are you quoting prices in Dollars ?

I was under the impression that here in the U.K we use the 'Â£'

currency ( for the now at least, until the euro inevitably comes

along)....or does your 'Â£' key not work ?

kinetic · Dec 23, 2002, 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by fornicatarachnid
Just one question Craig....why are you quoting prices in Dollars ?

I was under the impression that here in the U.K we use the 'Â£'

currency ( for the now at least, until the euro inevitably comes

along)....or does your 'Â£' key not work ?

Reminds me of my fave film 'A Fistful of Pound Notes'

fornicatarachnid · Dec 23, 2002, 06:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by kinetic
Reminds me of my fave film 'A Fistful of Pound Notes'

LOL

ToshiroOC · Dec 23, 2002, 07:08 PM

The thing that is starting to bother me now is that I used to have a normal GTS in my system (64mb, oced very nicely, went to 245/420 with stock cooling, no ramsinks), but I built a computer for my grandfather who was still insisting that his 486 was good enough for everything but calculating the sun, and what I found to my dismay was that though the GTS-V worked in my AXP system, and the GTS 64mb worked in my AXP system, only the GTS 64mb would work in the system I had for my grandpa (a dell from an old friend that I fixed up, so it wasn't like I had a warranty to fall back on to get it fixed.) Make a long story short, my grandpa's 733pIII benches around the same 3dmarks as my 1.7ghz AXP system...

EDIT: oh ya, with everything oc'ed out, I was hitting a sweet 5000-5500 3dmarks with my old card... but now I'm down to 3500... New card time is here with Christmas methinks...

EDIT EDIT: Found one of my few posted compare scores - I normally don't upload them to the ORB because I haven't ever seen a real need or reason to...
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=2604687

~~Asuka~~ · Dec 24, 2002, 12:07 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by craig5320
^ I'm in the UK, Ti4200's which is what I'm after are about $225-$250

Yeah, tha't way too much for that card, and there's no cheap alternative... don't let them fool you with the Geforce 4 MX which has nothing to do with a Geforce 4, but it's only a marginally modified Geforce 2 (which you also notice performace-wise).
Don't make the same mistake I did this March - I got one of these GF4MX piece of $hit thingies

(and even paid $80 for it!

)
With an 1200 Amd TB, I had problems to hit even lousy 4k

I then upgraded to an Amd XP 2000+ and got only around 4600

So I eventually got even more pissed than I already was at this bull$hit card (if that was even possible), and at the first possible opportunity that I had enough money (September), I got myself an Ati Radeon 8500 (275/550, no LE) from HIS for measly $65 (incl. tax). Guess what? My score doubled to about 9000 points!

(no o/c - I've seen guys which got easily 10k with o/c and also Amd XP 2000+)
Clearly makes a difference, doesn't it?

So, taking a look at the "Scan" shop, I'd recommend you the following cards:

If you only have a small budget, get this one. Not quite as expensive or performant as the 8500, but still easily kicks the ass of a GF4MX:
LN4220 64Mb ATI Radeon 9000 Pro Retail DVI/TV Out - Ex. Vat 61.00 / Inc. Vat 71.68

If you can shell out some more cash, get an 9500 - clearly kicks the as of even a Geforce 4 4200 and is a full-fledged DirectX 9 card! (much unlike anything from nvdidia until now). Also supports 8x AGP! Ok, 8xAGP is also avaiable for some nVidia cards, but only for an ungodly sum, and the tiny improvement over 4xAGP clearly isn't worth that much more money.
LN4630 64Mb ATI Radeon 9500 Retail DDR/DVI/TV Out - Ex. Vat 109.00 / Inc. Vat 128.08

Of course, if you have still more money to burn, you can also get an Ati Radeon 9700/9700 Pro. Both cards clearly wipe the floor with any nVidia card that is currently avaiable

So if you want to be the King, get one of these!

Vampyromaniac · Dec 24, 2002, 02:58 AM

craig, dig', forni' . . . do you guys have 3DMark2000 scores for these cards?

fornicatarachnid · Dec 24, 2002, 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Vampyromaniac
craig, dig', forni' . . . do you guys have 3DMark2000 scores for these cards?

nope, but if I can find 3D Mark 2000 to download I will get get it

and do a test

Edit: I've found it, i'll post the result later

fornicatarachnid · Dec 24, 2002, 01:06 PM

As promised, here are the results of the 3D Mark2000 test ......

7144 points

Hope this info is helpful

Dec 23, 2002, 02:23 AM	#1
*craig5320* HH Administrator Join Date: May 2002 Location: Manchester, UK Posts: 8,565 Rep Power: 445 System Specs	My 3DMark score, have a laugh why don't you. Well I've seen a lot of talk of 3DMarks recently, and until now I've restrained from running one myself... because I knew it'd be bad. But well I did anyway. 2,802 I'm utterly ashamed http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=5410320 check it out, have a laugh at my expense craig5320 __________________ HardwareHeaven on Facebook

Dec 23, 2002, 03:59 AM	#4
Vampyromaniac confutatis maledictis Join Date: May 2002 Location: somewhere dark Posts: 5,974 Rep Power: 77 System Specs	Hey, cool! Someone to actually look up to my 3285! __________________ *Digitalis 3.3* Athlon 64 3000 // ASUS K8V SE Deluxe // 1024MB PC3200 (2-2-2-10 1T) ATI All-In-Wonder 9700 Pro // 20" Dell 2005FPW (DVI) M-Audio Revo 7.1 + Philips Acoustic Edge // Klipsch ProMedia 2.1 320/16 Western Digital WD3200KS + 120/8 Seagate 7200.7 NEC ND-3550A 16x DVD±RW + Lite-On 52x24x CD-RW Antec Sonata case // 480W Antec TruePower personal bests \|\| Aq'3: 46796 \| 3D'01: 20461 \| 3D'03: 6336 \| 3D'05: 2677 \| PC'04: 4605 \| PC'02: 7691,9092,1250

Dec 23, 2002, 04:33 AM	Thread Starter #6
*craig5320* HH Administrator Join Date: May 2002 Location: Manchester, UK Posts: 8,565 Rep Power: 445 System Specs	Wooo! thanks for that __________________ HardwareHeaven on Facebook

Dec 23, 2002, 04:33 AM	#7
ToshiroOC Unbiased. Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 4,812 Rep Power: 0	Don't worry man - my monstrous AXP system, with 320gb of storage, 512mb of ram, and a brand-name video card, pulls around 3500 fully overclocked, 2500 not. I don't have compare links because I never felt like it was worth having up... it angers me so much when people with geforce 4's (like one of my friends) whine when they say that they can't break 10k 3dmarks in 1600x1200... I'm lucky if I can get menus to show up in 1600x1200, much less real 3d graphix. Even old quake 2 stuffs (counterstrike anyone?) hit around 20fps at that resolution, and they are missing out on 150fps... damn... I really need a new video card... __________________ [img][/img] [color=White]Peace be with you, Joe.[/color] Driverheaven Staff Member (Supermoderator)

Dec 23, 2002, 06:23 AM	#8
mbeeston HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: alberta, canada (thats north of the usa people) Posts: 1,037 Rep Power: 68 System Specs	tosh... what is the video card? __________________ R.I.P Roadee - you will be missed T_T peace,love, and war... 3 things people look for... "if your going off the deep end, show off, do a cannon ball!" - me

Dec 23, 2002, 03:13 AM	#2
JavaFox E Pluribus Unum Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 3,203 Rep Power: 0	Mwahahahahahaha! There. Happy?

Dec 23, 2002, 03:51 AM	#3
Zarathustra Elite Bastard Join Date: May 2002 Location: The Confederacy Posts: 841 Rep Power: 0	That is simply amazing man!

Dec 23, 2002, 04:29 AM	#5
Zarathustra Elite Bastard Join Date: May 2002 Location: The Confederacy Posts: 841 Rep Power: 0	This one score of mine should make you feel better

Dec 23, 2002, 07:12 AM	#9
ToshiroOC Unbiased. Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 4,812 Rep Power: 0	Vid card is a GF2 GTS 32mb, but its not a real GTS, its some wierd gts-v variant that's underclocked and has very little overclocking room on the GPU - I just call it a GF2MX to avoid confusion, but its an underclocked GF2GTS... __________________ [img][/img] [color=White]Peace be with you, Joe.[/color] Driverheaven Staff Member (Supermoderator)

Dec 23, 2002, 09:08 AM	#10
mbeeston HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: alberta, canada (thats north of the usa people) Posts: 1,037 Rep Power: 68 System Specs	gf2gtsLE ? lol nice new card time __________________ R.I.P Roadee - you will be missed T_T peace,love, and war... 3 things people look for... "if your going off the deep end, show off, do a cannon ball!" - me

Dec 23, 2002, 09:51 AM	#11
fornicatarachnid Clanless Join Date: May 2002 Location: On the web, England UK Posts: 714 Rep Power: 0	Ive got a real GF2 GTS and I'm in the middle of downloadin the 3D Mark test......(56k modem ) I'll post my score later It will give me something to compare my new system to when I finally get round to building it next month

Dec 23, 2002, 02:20 PM	#12
digitalwanderer Colour Commentator Join Date: May 2002 Location: Highland, IN USA Posts: 5,619 Rep Power: 0	Bubble's with a Voodoo3 Bubble's with a 64MB GF2 MX400 (240/420) Blue with 32MB radeon 7200 183/183 I had a GTS-V too for a while, but I passed it on to a friend and kept the GF2 MX400....the MX400 was the better card! (It's a sweet MX400, abit siluro. ) Your score isn't that shabby, it's about what I started this year with as me best. I CAN'T WAIT TO SEE WHAT THE NEXT YEAR WILL BRING!!!!!! EDITED BITS: BTW-I'm on a 56K too, you have me sympathies. If it's any consolation I've been finding there ain't a whole lot you can't do with a 56K that you can do with a T3, it just takes a bit longer. __________________ WTF is up with the sigs?

Dec 23, 2002, 04:01 PM	#13
fornicatarachnid Clanless Join Date: May 2002 Location: On the web, England UK Posts: 714 Rep Power: 0	As promised, here's my score....3709 Im chuffed to bits My scores better than Craigs he he BTW Dig, it looks like you were wrong to swap your GTS for an MX400 cos if you compare mine and Craigs scores the GTS is obviously the better card

Dec 23, 2002, 04:05 PM	Thread Starter #14
*craig5320* HH Administrator Join Date: May 2002 Location: Manchester, UK Posts: 8,565 Rep Power: 445 System Specs	Yup He's right, I will have my revenge __________________ HardwareHeaven on Facebook

Dec 23, 2002, 04:40 PM	#16
The_Neon_Cowboy HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: U.S.A. Posts: 16,009 Rep Power: 92 System Specs	Buy a new video card pik up a Geforce 4200 Ti for about $140 and you'll about triple if not quadriple your score... your video card is your weak link there __________________

Dec 23, 2002, 04:55 PM	Thread Starter #17
*craig5320* HH Administrator Join Date: May 2002 Location: Manchester, UK Posts: 8,565 Rep Power: 445 System Specs	^ I'm in the UK, Ti4200's which is what I'm after are about $225-$250 __________________ HardwareHeaven on Facebook

Dec 23, 2002, 05:43 PM	Thread Starter #19
*craig5320* HH Administrator Join Date: May 2002 Location: Manchester, UK Posts: 8,565 Rep Power: 445 System Specs	My MX400 is Creative 3D Blaster __________________ HardwareHeaven on Facebook

Dec 23, 2002, 05:44 PM	#20
Zarathustra Elite Bastard Join Date: May 2002 Location: The Confederacy Posts: 841 Rep Power: 0	Here's my best GF2GTS score. I threw it back in during my Ti4600 review and decided to see if I could break 5k. Almost did, I'm sure it will blow past that mark with the 40.xx series. But I don't have the card anymore.

Dec 23, 2002, 05:57 PM	Thread Starter #22
*craig5320* HH Administrator Join Date: May 2002 Location: Manchester, UK Posts: 8,565 Rep Power: 445 System Specs	that's still nearly $200 inc delivery and thats for a 64mb version __________________ HardwareHeaven on Facebook

Dec 23, 2002, 07:08 PM	#26
ToshiroOC Unbiased. Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 4,812 Rep Power: 0	The thing that is starting to bother me now is that I used to have a normal GTS in my system (64mb, oced very nicely, went to 245/420 with stock cooling, no ramsinks), but I built a computer for my grandfather who was still insisting that his 486 was good enough for everything but calculating the sun, and what I found to my dismay was that though the GTS-V worked in my AXP system, and the GTS 64mb worked in my AXP system, only the GTS 64mb would work in the system I had for my grandpa (a dell from an old friend that I fixed up, so it wasn't like I had a warranty to fall back on to get it fixed.) Make a long story short, my grandpa's 733pIII benches around the same 3dmarks as my 1.7ghz AXP system... EDIT: oh ya, with everything oc'ed out, I was hitting a sweet 5000-5500 3dmarks with my old card... but now I'm down to 3500... New card time is here with Christmas methinks... EDIT EDIT: Found one of my few posted compare scores - I normally don't upload them to the ORB because I haven't ever seen a real need or reason to... http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=2604687 __________________ [img][/img] [color=White]Peace be with you, Joe.[/color] Driverheaven Staff Member (Supermoderator) Last edited by ToshiroOC; Dec 23, 2002 at 07:16 PM.

Dec 24, 2002, 02:58 AM	#28
Vampyromaniac confutatis maledictis Join Date: May 2002 Location: somewhere dark Posts: 5,974 Rep Power: 77 System Specs	craig, dig', forni' . . . do you guys have 3DMark2000 scores for these cards? __________________ *Digitalis 3.3* Athlon 64 3000 // ASUS K8V SE Deluxe // 1024MB PC3200 (2-2-2-10 1T) ATI All-In-Wonder 9700 Pro // 20" Dell 2005FPW (DVI) M-Audio Revo 7.1 + Philips Acoustic Edge // Klipsch ProMedia 2.1 320/16 Western Digital WD3200KS + 120/8 Seagate 7200.7 NEC ND-3550A 16x DVD±RW + Lite-On 52x24x CD-RW Antec Sonata case // 480W Antec TruePower personal bests \|\| Aq'3: 46796 \| 3D'01: 20461 \| 3D'03: 6336 \| 3D'05: 2677 \| PC'04: 4605 \| PC'02: 7691,9092,1250

Dec 24, 2002, 01:06 PM	#30
fornicatarachnid Clanless Join Date: May 2002 Location: On the web, England UK Posts: 714 Rep Power: 0	As promised, here are the results of the 3D Mark2000 test ...... 7144 points Hope this info is helpful