Benchmark way lower than should be, cpu problem?

windowlicker · Oct 13, 2005, 06:03 AM

Well I just did a fresh install of XP SP2, used the latest NVidia drivers and other system drivers.

My system is a 915p chipset, 3.4ghz p4 w/ HT, NVidia 6800GT OC, and 1 gb of pc400 memory.

My 3dMark score is 2355 and my cpu score is 804. On the cpu test its at a constant 0 fps and the game test scene "return to proxicon" my fps is around 12 or so.

Does anyone have any suggestions? These scores are crazy low! This is a fresh system, I shouldn't be seeing these numbers.

Thanks in advance for your input.

Dyre Straits · Oct 13, 2005, 06:16 AM

After doing the fresh install, have you installed the latest chipset drivers for your system? You should check at www.intel.com for the latest.

OR, check at your motherboard's WEB site for latest drivers for that specific mobo.

windowlicker · Oct 13, 2005, 06:26 AM

Yup, Took care of that.

CDsDontBurn · Oct 13, 2005, 06:40 AM

turn down all of the quality settings to "performance" in your NV control panel. should help out a bit

Dyre Straits · Oct 13, 2005, 06:41 AM

Time to get a little more specific:

What motherboard, PSU, brand of RAM, type of Hardware, mother's maiden name, the whole gamut.

windowlicker · Oct 13, 2005, 07:19 AM

Set to performance mode. got maybe 2-300 points.

As for my setup.

MotherBoard = GigaByte GA-8I915P pro-a

Ram = 1 stick of 512mb pc400 Kingston HyperX and 1 stick of 512mb Corsaid pc400 (not sure which type)

Video card = BFG Tech Nvidia 6800 GT OC (clocked to 400/1000)

And the PSU is a "ENERMAX Noisetaker EG375P-VE-SFMA 370W"

ReDGuiTaR · Oct 13, 2005, 09:00 AM

If i remember right NVidia recommend at least a 400 watt power supply to run a 6800 series .

windowlicker · Oct 13, 2005, 08:54 PM

Box for the video card says a 350w

Vikingod · Oct 13, 2005, 08:57 PM

3dMark05 or 03? Did you have the setting set to default, or higher? Was v-sinc on?

windowlicker · Oct 13, 2005, 09:13 PM

vsync on and off and 3dmark05 set to default. I am getting fluxuating scores of 2200 to 2450

NUCLEARWINTER · Oct 14, 2005, 02:00 AM

this may sound like a stupid question...but r u running any programs in the background?

[hobo]eclipse · Oct 14, 2005, 02:03 AM

maybe because yer CPU is Hyperthreading, maybe give it a whirl with HT disabled??

CDsDontBurn · Oct 14, 2005, 03:28 AM

the only things i can think of are v-sync, and the performance options like we have said earlier. also, like nuke there said, turn off any unnecessary background applications that you have running.

windowlicker · Oct 14, 2005, 04:37 AM

I have yet to install anything other than norton 2005 and firefox, task manager shows i hav 800 megs of ram available. I am running no other basic processes. Every driver setting has been placed to performance, vysnc off, 3dmark05 at default.

I'm going to try turning HT off and see what that does, but I'de be surprised if that fixed it.

Is it just me...or with my specs should I be seeing a higher score for a box with a fresh install and latest drivers?

windowlicker · Oct 14, 2005, 04:44 AM

I turned off HT and performance got worse.

windowlicker · Oct 14, 2005, 05:06 AM

i read this post on this website and the guy states

"I got 5405 3dmarks with a 6800GT @ 420/1200 using 66.51 drivers...
The Cpu @ default 3.2ghz.."

and on another post

"
I got 5911 with the rig in my sig, all is stock with no overclocking, 3dmark05 on default settings...(edited out some unneeded info)

These are with cat 5.6
Any feedback appreciated, thx [img]images/smilies/oops.gif[/img]
__________________
AMD Athlon 64 3200+ Venice (Socket 939)
Epox EP-9NPA+ nForce4 (Socket 939) (PCI-Express)
GeIL 1GB PC3200
Sapphire ATI Radeon X850XT 256MB (PCI-Express)
"

I'de imagine that being modest i should easily be obtaining over 3k.

I wonder if some part of my computer is bad, I should start by returning the vid card for a replacement eh?

Anyone have anymore suggestions?

CDsDontBurn · Oct 14, 2005, 06:29 AM

your rig is plenty powerful to easily be scoring in the 5k range for the '05 benchmark. check all your video settings and set everything to performance, disable any background programs that don't need to be running (like norton.....ESPECIALLY norton

), and turn off v-sync.

these are all suggestions we have already given you.

Dyre Straits · Oct 14, 2005, 06:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by windowlicker

I have yet to install anything other than norton 2005 and firefox, task manager shows i hav 800 megs of ram available. I am running no other basic processes. Every driver setting has been placed to performance, vysnc off, 3dmark05 at default.

I'm going to try turning HT off and see what that does, but I'de be surprised if that fixed it.

Is it just me...or with my specs should I be seeing a higher score for a box with a fresh install and latest drivers?\

No, it's not just you. You should be seeing scores at least in the upper 5000s....and maybe into the 6000s. I just did a little check on Futuremark's ORB site and there are scores in the 7000s....with higher speed CPUs and likely some overclocking all around.

What I would do is reinstall your updated motherboard drivers....making absolutely sure you install everything.

Make sure your RAM timings are as tight as the RAM specifies.

If there's anything sharing an IRQ with your Video Card, try to make sure it's disabled for the mean time while you do the testing.

You might even boost the voltage to your video card an increment at a time. I find my own X800 runs really good with 1.55 instead of 1.5.

If you have any DVD/CDs in the drive, remove it/those in order to avoid having the benchmark program make an attempt to access it/them.

If I were in your shoes, I'd be greatly concerned, too. You should be seeing some much higher scores than you're getting.

windowlicker · Oct 14, 2005, 06:45 AM

Oh trust me, I am concerned.

I'm not a newbie and I am very familiar with my system, and this just baffles me. I'm going to try reinstalling system drivers and checking for IRQ conflicts. If that doesn't work I'm exchanging the card tomorrow =/

Dyre Straits · Oct 14, 2005, 06:56 AM

When you start up the 3DMark program, have you done a System check? You can see all the RAM timings, settings, etc, by doing that. It might help get to the bottom of the problem if you can see what's really 'under the hood'.

CDsDontBurn · Oct 14, 2005, 07:13 AM

take a screenie of your task manager in desending order of programs by amount of memory being used up. then between myself and others here, we can help you out as to which background programs can be turned off to help improve your scores. the other thing i want you to take a screenshot of is your nVidia control panel where it shows what settings you have your card at.

CDsDontBurn · Oct 14, 2005, 07:19 AM

here is an old screenie of one of my scores back when i had a 6800GT. the circled area is the places i want you to take screen shots of. I want to see what settings you have your gfx card running at. I still believe you are doing something wrong.

and like i said, also take a screen shot of your task manager. You said you have about 800Mb of memory available when you go benchmark. 800Mb available would mean that 200Mb of memory is being used up. Clearing up some of the programs running will also help out some.

windowlicker · Oct 14, 2005, 04:34 PM

Ignore the azureus and javaw process, i have those off when i bench. As for disabling norton completly, i dont think 100megs of mem or whatever it's using will make the differance in my score I am looking for.

Here are some screen shots of what you requested

Lowfat · Oct 14, 2005, 04:38 PM

Do you have rivatuner installed? you shoud check if all 16 pixelpiplines are open, and 6 vertex shaders as well.. if so. then it could only be drivers. Only those could give the performance hits your getting.

windowlicker · Oct 14, 2005, 04:46 PM

Yea I installed RivaTuner and all the pipes and verts are on 16,6

windowlicker · Oct 14, 2005, 04:57 PM

I think it might be my cpu guys, I ran sisoft sandra and benchmarked my cpu. Check out how I compare to their same cpu comparison. I have a 3.4ghz p4

CDsDontBurn · Oct 14, 2005, 06:54 PM

well, i don't have enough time right now to go through the task manager, but i can already see all kinds of different madness that needs to be turned off.

as for the CPU part, you might be right there as well. It might be that your CPU's HSF assembly is not properly seated. That happened to a customer at my work and his 5x0 CPU. It wasn't properly seated and by default his CPU clocked down to like 1.6Ghz So check that as well.

windowlicker · Oct 14, 2005, 07:10 PM

Yea I think i need a new HSF, looking at my temps and with this hot cpu tester program running i am at like 76-80C, which is way too high, so I think I am going to goto the store and get a more powerful PSU and a better HSF, see what happens.

UPDATE::

Well i lowered my multiplier and my cpu is at 2.8ghz now, i did actually see a slight increase in performance, very slight, and the cpu test in 3dmark05 still crawls at 0 fps. Sandra is still reporting the performance of my cpu at less than half the performance of a pentium 2.66ghz with mine running at 2.8.

Does this sound like a cpu problem or a motherboard problem?

CDsDontBurn · Oct 14, 2005, 10:26 PM

going through your list, here is what i have come up with that shouldn't be running when running benchmarks. turning these off certainly does help out quite a bit

Lowfat · Oct 15, 2005, 01:44 AM

[QUOTE=CDsDontBurn]going through your list, here is what i have come up with that shouldn't be running when running benchmarks. turning these off certainly does help out quite a bit

he doesn't want to shut down alg.exe, he might not have internet anymore

Oct 13, 2005, 06:03 AM	#1
windowlicker DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 40 Rep Power: 0	Benchmark way lower than should be, cpu problem? Well I just did a fresh install of XP SP2, used the latest NVidia drivers and other system drivers. My system is a 915p chipset, 3.4ghz p4 w/ HT, NVidia 6800GT OC, and 1 gb of pc400 memory. My 3dMark score is 2355 and my cpu score is 804. On the cpu test its at a constant 0 fps and the game test scene "return to proxicon" my fps is around 12 or so. Does anyone have any suggestions? These scores are crazy low! This is a fresh system, I shouldn't be seeing these numbers. Thanks in advance for your input.

Oct 13, 2005, 06:40 AM	#4
CDsDontBurn Lurking DriverHeaven Join Date: May 2003 Location: Southern California Posts: 22,779 Rep Power: 235 System Specs	turn down all of the quality settings to "performance" in your NV control panel. should help out a bit __________________ Her First Day \| A year later

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ReDGuiTaR DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Quebec , Canada Posts: 746 Rep Power: 0	If i remember right NVidia recommend at least a 400 watt power supply to run a 6800 series . __________________ Zing a ling... zing a ling a ling ... A8N-E - A64x2 4600, 2048 Mb Kingston ram 400mhz cas 2.5 ( 2 x 1024 DualChannel ), Seagate 320 Gig 7200 16Mb cache S-ata 2, GeForce 7900GT 512MB, Enermax 460watt power supply, WindowsXP SP2.

Oct 13, 2005, 09:13 PM	Thread Starter #10
windowlicker DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 40 Rep Power: 0	vsync on and off and 3dmark05 set to default. I am getting fluxuating scores of 2200 to 2450 Last edited by windowlicker; Oct 13, 2005 at 09:52 PM.

Oct 14, 2005, 02:00 AM	#11
NUCLEARWINTER Reap What You Sow. Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Louisville, Kentucky Posts: 1,135 Rep Power: 65 System Specs	this may sound like a stupid question...but r u running any programs in the background? __________________ insert witty comment here!

Oct 13, 2005, 06:26 AM	Thread Starter #3
windowlicker DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 40 Rep Power: 0	Yup, Took care of that.

Oct 13, 2005, 07:19 AM	Thread Starter #6
windowlicker DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 40 Rep Power: 0	Set to performance mode. got maybe 2-300 points. As for my setup. MotherBoard = GigaByte GA-8I915P pro-a Ram = 1 stick of 512mb pc400 Kingston HyperX and 1 stick of 512mb Corsaid pc400 (not sure which type) Video card = BFG Tech Nvidia 6800 GT OC (clocked to 400/1000) And the PSU is a "ENERMAX Noisetaker EG375P-VE-SFMA 370W"

Oct 13, 2005, 08:54 PM	Thread Starter #8
windowlicker DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 40 Rep Power: 0	Box for the video card says a 350w

Oct 13, 2005, 08:57 PM	#9
Vikingod Int'l Fish Liaison Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: By the light of lamp I sit and type... Posts: 16,197 Rep Power: 112 System Specs	3dMark05 or 03? Did you have the setting set to default, or higher? Was v-sinc on?

Oct 14, 2005, 02:03 AM	#12
[hobo]eclipse ...just bummin 'round Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 2,907 Rep Power: 112 System Specs	maybe because yer CPU is Hyperthreading, maybe give it a whirl with HT disabled??

Oct 14, 2005, 03:28 AM	#13
CDsDontBurn Lurking DriverHeaven Join Date: May 2003 Location: Southern California Posts: 22,779 Rep Power: 235 System Specs	the only things i can think of are v-sync, and the performance options like we have said earlier. also, like nuke there said, turn off any unnecessary background applications that you have running. __________________ Her First Day \| A year later

Oct 14, 2005, 04:37 AM	Thread Starter #14
windowlicker DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 40 Rep Power: 0	I have yet to install anything other than norton 2005 and firefox, task manager shows i hav 800 megs of ram available. I am running no other basic processes. Every driver setting has been placed to performance, vysnc off, 3dmark05 at default. I'm going to try turning HT off and see what that does, but I'de be surprised if that fixed it. Is it just me...or with my specs should I be seeing a higher score for a box with a fresh install and latest drivers?

Oct 14, 2005, 04:44 AM	Thread Starter #15
windowlicker DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 40 Rep Power: 0	I turned off HT and performance got worse.

Oct 14, 2005, 05:06 AM	Thread Starter #16
windowlicker DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 40 Rep Power: 0	i read this post on this website and the guy states "I got 5405 3dmarks with a 6800GT @ 420/1200 using 66.51 drivers... The Cpu @ default 3.2ghz.." and on another post " I got 5911 with the rig in my sig, all is stock with no overclocking, 3dmark05 on default settings...(edited out some unneeded info) These are with cat 5.6 Any feedback appreciated, thx [img]images/smilies/oops.gif[/img] __________________ AMD Athlon 64 3200+ Venice (Socket 939) Epox EP-9NPA+ nForce4 (Socket 939) (PCI-Express) GeIL 1GB PC3200 Sapphire ATI Radeon X850XT 256MB (PCI-Express) " I'de imagine that being modest i should easily be obtaining over 3k. I wonder if some part of my computer is bad, I should start by returning the vid card for a replacement eh? Anyone have anymore suggestions? Last edited by windowlicker; Oct 14, 2005 at 05:20 AM.

Oct 14, 2005, 06:29 AM	#17
CDsDontBurn Lurking DriverHeaven Join Date: May 2003 Location: Southern California Posts: 22,779 Rep Power: 235 System Specs	your rig is plenty powerful to easily be scoring in the 5k range for the '05 benchmark. check all your video settings and set everything to performance, disable any background programs that don't need to be running (like norton.....ESPECIALLY norton ), and turn off v-sync. these are all suggestions we have already given you. __________________ Her First Day \| A year later

Oct 14, 2005, 06:45 AM	Thread Starter #19
windowlicker DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 40 Rep Power: 0	Oh trust me, I am concerned. I'm not a newbie and I am very familiar with my system, and this just baffles me. I'm going to try reinstalling system drivers and checking for IRQ conflicts. If that doesn't work I'm exchanging the card tomorrow =/

Oct 14, 2005, 07:13 AM	#21
CDsDontBurn Lurking DriverHeaven Join Date: May 2003 Location: Southern California Posts: 22,779 Rep Power: 235 System Specs	take a screenie of your task manager in desending order of programs by amount of memory being used up. then between myself and others here, we can help you out as to which background programs can be turned off to help improve your scores. the other thing i want you to take a screenshot of is your nVidia control panel where it shows what settings you have your card at. __________________ Her First Day \| A year later

Oct 14, 2005, 07:19 AM	#22
CDsDontBurn Lurking DriverHeaven Join Date: May 2003 Location: Southern California Posts: 22,779 Rep Power: 235 System Specs	here is an old screenie of one of my scores back when i had a 6800GT. the circled area is the places i want you to take screen shots of. I want to see what settings you have your gfx card running at. I still believe you are doing something wrong. and like i said, also take a screen shot of your task manager. You said you have about 800Mb of memory available when you go benchmark. 800Mb available would mean that 200Mb of memory is being used up. Clearing up some of the programs running will also help out some. __________________ Her First Day \| A year later

Oct 14, 2005, 04:34 PM	Thread Starter #23
windowlicker DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 40 Rep Power: 0	Ignore the azureus and javaw process, i have those off when i bench. As for disabling norton completly, i dont think 100megs of mem or whatever it's using will make the differance in my score I am looking for. Here are some screen shots of what you requested

Oct 14, 2005, 04:38 PM	#24
Lowfat Xtreme Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Grande Prairie, AB, Can Posts: 4,254 Rep Power: 101	Do you have rivatuner installed? you shoud check if all 16 pixelpiplines are open, and 6 vertex shaders as well.. if so. then it could only be drivers. Only those could give the performance hits your getting. __________________

Oct 14, 2005, 04:46 PM	Thread Starter #25
windowlicker DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 40 Rep Power: 0	Yea I installed RivaTuner and all the pipes and verts are on 16,6

Oct 14, 2005, 04:57 PM	Thread Starter #26
windowlicker DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 40 Rep Power: 0	I think it might be my cpu guys, I ran sisoft sandra and benchmarked my cpu. Check out how I compare to their same cpu comparison. I have a 3.4ghz p4

Oct 14, 2005, 06:54 PM	#27
CDsDontBurn Lurking DriverHeaven Join Date: May 2003 Location: Southern California Posts: 22,779 Rep Power: 235 System Specs	well, i don't have enough time right now to go through the task manager, but i can already see all kinds of different madness that needs to be turned off. as for the CPU part, you might be right there as well. It might be that your CPU's HSF assembly is not properly seated. That happened to a customer at my work and his 5x0 CPU. It wasn't properly seated and by default his CPU clocked down to like 1.6Ghz So check that as well. __________________ Her First Day \| A year later

Oct 14, 2005, 07:10 PM	Thread Starter #28
windowlicker DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 40 Rep Power: 0	Yea I think i need a new HSF, looking at my temps and with this hot cpu tester program running i am at like 76-80C, which is way too high, so I think I am going to goto the store and get a more powerful PSU and a better HSF, see what happens. UPDATE:: Well i lowered my multiplier and my cpu is at 2.8ghz now, i did actually see a slight increase in performance, very slight, and the cpu test in 3dmark05 still crawls at 0 fps. Sandra is still reporting the performance of my cpu at less than half the performance of a pentium 2.66ghz with mine running at 2.8. Does this sound like a cpu problem or a motherboard problem? Last edited by windowlicker; Oct 14, 2005 at 07:24 PM.

Oct 14, 2005, 10:26 PM	#29
CDsDontBurn Lurking DriverHeaven Join Date: May 2003 Location: Southern California Posts: 22,779 Rep Power: 235 System Specs	going through your list, here is what i have come up with that shouldn't be running when running benchmarks. turning these off certainly does help out quite a bit __________________ Her First Day \| A year later

Oct 15, 2005, 01:44 AM	#30
Lowfat Xtreme Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Grande Prairie, AB, Can Posts: 4,254 Rep Power: 101	[QUOTE=CDsDontBurn]going through your list, here is what i have come up with that shouldn't be running when running benchmarks. turning these off certainly does help out quite a bit he doesn't want to shut down alg.exe, he might not have internet anymore __________________