latency problem with sonar4 and MOTU 828

bmaciver · Mar 17, 2006, 03:12 PM

I am experiencing a slight latency problem with external effects and when playing a live, using soft synths.
I have contacted MOTU and cakewalk tech support and done everything they suggest to minimize latency. Plus i have my windows and PC extremely tweaked out.
People in the audience do not hear it but it's irretable to me. If I MIDI tight sounds like a piano with another piano sound it's obvious.
My system is as follows:

Home built PC / ABIT MOBO / AMD Athlon XP CPU / 1GB Ram / Asus G-force Video card
Sonar 4 / including various soft synths
Lexicon MX200
MOTU 828 mk2 USB
Kurzweil PC2X

Any advice would be much appreciated.

thomasabarnes · Mar 17, 2006, 08:17 PM

Hi:

What kX Driver version are you using? I assume youre using some version of the kX Project Audio Driver?

If you have a true SB Live! and not a SB Live 24 Bit or some other non EMU10kx sound card, and if you have truely tweaked your PC for audio programs (also see this tweak guide: [color=#808000]http://www.musicxp.net/ [/color]), then try kX Driver 3534f. The ASIO performance is reported to be better than driver versions released after 3534f.

Here's the link to 3534f and New ProFX (including a new MX8) downloads:

ProFX: http://members.home.nl/nahutec/ProFx/profx3x.htm (scroll down to where it says ProFX For 3534)

3534f Download: http://www.electricstart.de/index.htm

EDIT

I just thought about something. SONAR can only support ASIO for one sound card at a time. If you're using 2 or more sound cards, your SB Live is probably using the WDM driver and another sound card using the ASIO driver. That may be you latency problem. Of course, if you're using just one sound card (the true SB Live!) make sure you're using the ASIO driver mode in SONAR (Options/Audio Advanced mode ASIO set under driver mode section of the Advanced tab).

Maddogg6 · Mar 17, 2006, 09:20 PM

@Thomas:

I dont see a Live card - just a MOTU... ?? - I think he uses his rig for live performance - or at least thats how I inturpit his post anyway..

@OP:
This forum here is meant for KX Driver users (replacement driver for SB Live/Audigy cards with a 10KX DSP)
So, we prolly cant help any more than what you have already have tried...

thomasabarnes · Mar 17, 2006, 09:31 PM

"I am experiencing a slight latency problem with external effects and when playing a live..."

Because of the quote above from his post, I figured he may be using a SB Live.

Maddogg6 · Mar 17, 2006, 09:36 PM

But then he also says...
' People in the audience do not hear it but it's irretable to me.'

?? who knows - but I suspect he isnt using a Live card - otherwise I suspect he would have listed the card model..

Mar 17, 2006, 03:12 PM	#1
bmaciver DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: South Carolina Posts: 1 Rep Power: 0	latency problem with sonar4 and MOTU 828 I am experiencing a slight latency problem with external effects and when playing a live, using soft synths. I have contacted MOTU and cakewalk tech support and done everything they suggest to minimize latency. Plus i have my windows and PC extremely tweaked out. People in the audience do not hear it but it's irretable to me. If I MIDI tight sounds like a piano with another piano sound it's obvious. My system is as follows: Home built PC / ABIT MOBO / AMD Athlon XP CPU / 1GB Ram / Asus G-force Video card Sonar 4 / including various soft synths Lexicon MX200 MOTU 828 mk2 USB Kurzweil PC2X Any advice would be much appreciated.

Mar 17, 2006, 08:17 PM	#2
thomasabarnes Long Time ***** Friend Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: USA Posts: 1,375 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	Hi: What kX Driver version are you using? I assume youre using some version of the kX Project Audio Driver? If you have a true SB Live! and not a SB Live 24 Bit or some other non EMU10kx sound card, and if you have truely tweaked your PC for audio programs (also see this tweak guide: [color=#808000]http://www.musicxp.net/ [/color]), then try kX Driver 3534f. The ASIO performance is reported to be better than driver versions released after 3534f. Here's the link to 3534f and New ProFX (including a new MX8) downloads: ProFX: http://members.home.nl/nahutec/ProFx/profx3x.htm (scroll down to where it says ProFX For 3534) 3534f Download: http://www.electricstart.de/index.htm EDIT I just thought about something. SONAR can only support ASIO for one sound card at a time. If you're using 2 or more sound cards, your SB Live is probably using the WDM driver and another sound card using the ASIO driver. That may be you latency problem. Of course, if you're using just one sound card (the true SB Live!) make sure you're using the ASIO driver mode in SONAR (Options/Audio Advanced mode ASIO set under driver mode section of the Advanced tab). __________________ May a song always touch you in a positive way. SONAR X1D Expanded, Windows 7 Pro 64Bit, MOTU UltraLite MK3, 150 GB HDD, 250 GB HDD, 1 TB x2 HDD 7200 rpm My Music Production: Top 40, Contemporary Christian, Pop/Rock, Decent Rap, Inspirationals, and Children Songs Last edited by thomasabarnes; Mar 17, 2006 at 08:27 PM.

Mar 17, 2006, 09:31 PM	#4
thomasabarnes Long Time ***** Friend Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: USA Posts: 1,375 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	"I am experiencing a slight latency problem with external effects and when playing a live..." Because of the quote above from his post, I figured he may be using a SB Live. __________________ May a song always touch you in a positive way. SONAR X1D Expanded, Windows 7 Pro 64Bit, MOTU UltraLite MK3, 150 GB HDD, 250 GB HDD, 1 TB x2 HDD 7200 rpm My Music Production: Top 40, Contemporary Christian, Pop/Rock, Decent Rap, Inspirationals, and Children Songs

Mar 17, 2006, 09:20 PM	#3
Maddogg6 Tail Razer Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Bernyurass, AZ - USA Posts: 4,027 Rep Power: 0	@Thomas: I dont see a Live card - just a MOTU... ?? - I think he uses his rig for live performance - or at least thats how I inturpit his post anyway.. @OP: This forum here is meant for KX Driver users (replacement driver for SB Live/Audigy cards with a 10KX DSP) So, we prolly cant help any more than what you have already have tried...

Mar 17, 2006, 09:36 PM	#5
Maddogg6 Tail Razer Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Bernyurass, AZ - USA Posts: 4,027 Rep Power: 0	But then he also says... ' People in the audience do not hear it but it's irretable to me.' ?? who knows - but I suspect he isnt using a Live card - otherwise I suspect he would have listed the card model..