3551 bugs

**Eugene Gavrilov** · Dec 18, 2010, 02:18 AM

please post 3551 bugs here

3551 has several 'known issues':

* audio quality for master mixer under windows 7 is not optimal
* memory leak in directsound applications (need more input on this in corresponding thread)
* sfman32 is not functioning properly because it (and kxapi.dll) are not located in system32 folder
* IR remote/multimedia keyboard under Win64
* soundfonts under x64

please don't report these issues

your feedback is welcome

E.

jaromanda · Dec 18, 2010, 04:20 AM

Some initial problems (Windows 7x86)

FXMix2 plugin, sliders do not work - double clicking FXMix2, all in levels are shown as 100% value, slider at 0 ... trying to move slider, sets displayed value to 0%, slider will not move

you can load the (bundled) profx adc? plugin, but "Tweak..."ing it (i.e. double click it) crashes kx to the point one has to reboot to do anything with kxmixer - same issue with ProFx311_48.kxl (ProFX:ADC) ...

lack of profx plugins (either bundled or addon) is a deal breaker for me, so I reverted to 3550

qweiwei · Dec 18, 2010, 07:02 AM

Broadcasting: Foobar0.9.x + oddcastv3 + icecast2
Receiver + playback: Foobar0.9.x + Audigy 2 zs notebook
Ploblem: The random beep (or silence) will occur.

Test condition:
Winxp sp2
1.Play the broadcasting signal a few minutes, and toggle to play local songs, Perhaps will occur the ploblem. then click the play button about 28 times, the sound is normal again.
2.open or close application sometimes will make noise!

Dave_Scream · Dec 18, 2010, 08:52 PM

W7 32bit - 4gb RAM
1.
3551 - ASIO registration problem (need to use regsvr32.exe)
3550 - ASIO registration ok

2. kxmixer.exe crash when doubl click PROFX->AC97 plugin

3. too many kx asio drivers: http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/5602/..._58fde56c_orig (work only first)
3551 installed above 3550. (3550 not deleted before update)

**Eugene Gavrilov** · Dec 18, 2010, 10:10 PM

Dave,
You need to delete 3550 completely before installing 3551. Otherwise it will not work properly. ASIO should register itself correctly after you remove 3550...

jaromanda:
will test this, thanks

jaromanda · Dec 19, 2010, 01:53 AM

On further investigation, none of the sliders for the "pseudo plugins" (as listed in fxlib.cpp) work

also, anything I compile - the sliders do not work - however, check box works

and ASIO definitely does no register - have to run regsvr32 kxasio.dll to make asio work - same problem in 3550

ReWired · Dec 19, 2010, 02:35 PM

Win 7 Ultimate x64, 4GB RAM, SB Live! 5.1 (SB0102 10k1 [bc00])

Installation went normally - clean install. ASIO registered well.
I found 2 installations of kX - 64 and 32 bit, does not know why x64 OS needs x86 driver presented (but that's not a big deal anyway).

Most of the bundled plugins work as expected. Few of them are buggy - for example Stereo Mixer's sliders do not move (and no sound goes out from the effect, because default positions are set to 0).

All of the included ProFX plugins work normally, except ADC, which crashes kX Mixer if I try to tweak it.

I play MIDI files only with Windows Media Player. In such scenario there is no matter if soundfont is loaded or not in kX Mixer. Too strange for me, but I am not so deep into Win 7 architecture, codecs and etc.
Also when playing MIDI file - the sound comes from FXbus 2/3 as if I play any other multimedia files.

There are few Master Mixer issues too.
If I use it as Default - sound is distorted raqndomly, crackles sometimes. But this is the only way to hear multichannels audio.
Strange thing is, that regardless of what type audio is played - the sound never comes through FXBus 0/1.
So, setup is this:
Master Mixer as Default
FXBus 0/1 - main stereo, 2/3 - front, 4/5 - rear, 6/7 - c/lfe.
Playing AC3 5.1 stream produce sound in 2/3, 4/5 and 6/7.
Normal stereo file - sound is only through 2/3.
The only time I can hear sound out from 0/1 is if this bus is selected as ASIO output.

Using bus 2/3 as Default device fixes the audio quality problems (but no AC3/DTS multichannel sound).

My DSP is custom made - k1lt, asio, 4 src's, nouse gate.
Not tested with default DSP!

Dave_Scream · Dec 19, 2010, 08:12 PM

oh noo.. crackling still here in 3551. dunno what to do, im depressed

where the problem can be?? the crackling starts when my pc working for a while... for example now my pc is online for about 5 hours... if i restart, the sound will ok for a while but after few hours crackling start to appear more and more..

I tryed to record this crackles. here the file: 3551.wma — RGhost — ôàéëîîáìåííèê (rewind a little forward). For recording i used tonal signal in FL Studio -> kx Asio 10/12. And in DSP window I just routed ProFX src 10/12 to K1LT WinnMM recording...

my soundcard is SB Live! CT4832

help! where i can found solution ((( please. what should i try to look?

jaromanda · Dec 20, 2010, 01:03 AM

Forgot to specify in my posts, sound card = SB0350

Ferow2k · Dec 27, 2010, 10:37 PM

Hi!, I'm using a SB0102 with Win 7 x64, and I'm having some minor problems in addition to the known issues.

When starting windows (or resuming from hibernation) my last DSP configuration is not restored, instead it's reset to the default.
However, the position of kX Mixer's sliders is saved and restored correctly.

Also, when starting kX Mixer for the first time after windows startup (clicking an icon I pinned on the taskbar), instead of opening the main kX mixer window, it opens the Peak meter window

. Closing it and clicking it again a few more times brings up kX Mixer.
Note: I had to recreate the taskbar icon after upgrading because the old shortcut became broken (kxmixer.exe was not found at the old location).

Both of these were not happening in 3550.

Edit: I was also not able to load .kx presets by double-clicking them.
I couldn't restore the file association using windows' built-in control panel applet, however I was able to do it using FileTypesMan (freeware from NirSoft).
Using this utility I saw that all the .kx? (.kx, .kxl, etc) file associations pointed to c:\windows\system32\kxmixer.exe instead of c:\program files\kx Audio Driver\kxmixer.exe.
After correcting all these paths, everything worked again.

Edit 2: The previous issue was also caused by a wrong path: Using regedit I saw that there was a key named kX Mixer in "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\Cur rentVersion\Run". Guess what, it ran: c:\windows\system32\kxmixer.exe --startup. After changing it to Program files, the load of settings at startup was fixed!

Many thanks for your time (and for this great software!)

Ferow2k

erim · Jan 1, 2011, 12:14 AM

After a couple of system restarts now KX mixer no longer starts up. No tray icon, no sound, no error, nothing.
Then I started KX mixer manually and everything was set to default values.

Win 7 64. SB Live (SB0060)

EDIT: today, after starting the PC, there is sound, but no KX icon or any KX process in the Task Manager.

EditioN · Jan 4, 2011, 11:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by erim

After a couple of system restarts now KX mixer no longer starts up. No tray icon, no sound, no error, nothing.
Then I started KX mixer manually and everything was set to default values.

Win 7 64. SB Live (SB0060)

EDIT: today, after starting the PC, there is sound, but no KX icon or any KX process in the Task Manager.

Look at the post before yours, you have to change key in registry to address to program files instead of system32.

-----------------------

Win7 X64 4Gb RAM

Did the registry modification, and the file extension redirection to program files and that is working.

Other thing i noticed is that "10 band EQ" is not working with "Wave Out HQ", only with SPDIF/AC3 Output, Master Mixer, etc...

regards.

korogui · Jan 7, 2011, 04:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EditioN

Look at the post before yours, you have to change key in registry to address to program files instead of system32.

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Win7 X64 4Gb RAM

Did the registry modification, and the file extension redirection to program files and that is working.

Other thing i noticed is that "10 band EQ" is not working with "Wave Out HQ", only with SPDIF/AC3 Output, Master Mixer, etc...

regards.

It's not a BUG, if you have an Audigy 2 or newer card, you must use a different sound path (cause it uses a separate chip for HQ Sound). Look at my DSP...

http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/2585/kxhd.jpg

Notice that if you have 'Swap frontal/rear channels' ticked in KX-Mixer, you should connect your DSP Effects to p16v output pins 7 and 8 instead of 1 and 2.

erim · Jan 7, 2011, 10:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eugene Gavrilov

* soundfonts under x64

I'm not sure if this is what you mean, but when I started KXi VSTi in Ableton Live the host -Ableton- crashed.

BTW, I don't need that VST functionality, it was installed by accident or by a KX bug.

sghpunk · Jan 14, 2011, 08:27 PM

Don't even know where to start...
So. When I use foobar2000 with default output (DS?), i have differen results on differen output sound formats and kx playback buffer size.

24bit/44100Hz and kx buffer>1008 bytes - causes system hangs (from 1-2 sec to 1-2min, and may start playing after that, and hang time increases with increasing the buffer size.) when start playing or change song, or song position change.
24bit/44100Hz and kx buffer<1008 bytes - only silence.

So I can use 24bit/44100Hz with only kx buffer = 1008 bytes.

24bit/48000Hz and kx buffer = 1008 bytes - causes strange noice (seems like it is jerkiness, but its frequency so high, that it looks like noice) with sound (recorded sound).
24bit/48000Hz and 8184>kx buffer>1008 - causes jerky sound like above, but jerking decreases with increasing the buffer size.

So I can use 24bit/48000Hz with only kx buffer >= 8184 bytes.

With 16bit sound I have no problem I can use 16/44 and 16/48 with kx buffer size>1008 bytes (with buffer = 1008 got little jerkiness on 48kHz).

I use SB0530 (Audigy 2 ZS notebook).
WinXP SP3
What else information you need?

Sorry for my english. I from Ukraine, so I can explain all this in russian )).

silvertones · Jan 22, 2011, 02:38 PM

As well as 3551 works on my Win7X64 machine I could not get it working on the XP machine. All I could get was output on the front outs. I reinstalled 3550 and it's fine. ???????? I went back and forth a couple of times with no luck.

silvertones · Jan 22, 2011, 10:05 PM

OOPS!!! Forgot to check the mixer page. The wav slider was down I never use this page as I do a custom DSP and usually everything is up by default. At least 3550 was & even 3551 on the Win7x64 machine.
Solved.

sapo_joe · Jan 24, 2011, 07:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave_Scream

oh noo.. crackling still here in 3551. dunno what to do, im depressed

where the problem can be?? the crackling starts when my pc working for a while... for example now my pc is online for about 5 hours... if i restart, the sound will ok for a while but after few hours crackling start to appear more and more..

I tryed to record this crackles. here the file: 3551.wma — RGhost — ôàéëîîáìåííèê (rewind a little forward). For recording i used tonal signal in FL Studio -> kx Asio 10/12. And in DSP window I just routed ProFX src 10/12 to K1LT WinnMM recording...

my soundcard is SB Live! CT4832

help! where i can found solution ((( please. what should i try to look?

Mate, try these settings in the buffers config:

256 kb
9600 bytes (~10.00ms)
65536 bytes
16 buffers
2048 samples

With this I got rid of crackling in Master Mixer for good. Watched some intense 5.1 content for hours (~6 hours and didn't restart pc from yesterday til today) and it's still good!

Hope it fixes stuff for you!

Kanst · Jan 25, 2011, 11:00 PM

Problem:
Windows 7

Kermet · Jan 30, 2011, 03:28 PM

Still crackling noise (also with sapo joe's buffer settings) under Win 7 32bit using Master Mixer.
Also surrounder (bass redirection) not working for stereo sources when speaker configuration set to more speakers than 2.1.

Using SPIDF as output device I can only get stereo sound from 5.1 sources,
using WaveHQ 5.1 sound is fine, but surrounder completely not working, so no bass redirection from stereo sources.

So the great kx drivers are unfortunately still useless under Win 7...

Russ · Feb 2, 2011, 08:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kermet

Also surrounder (bass redirection) not working for stereo sources when speaker configuration set to more speakers than 2.1.

This is probably related to the routing bug (of stereo audio) with Master Mixer on Vista/7. (i.e. in the default DSP config, Surrounder (basically) expects that stereo audio will come from FxBus 0/1).

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kermet

Using SPIDF as output device I can only get stereo sound from 5.1 sources,

That is expected behavior. The only multichannel outputs are Wave 0/1 / Master Mixer (and equivalent WaveHQ device). (The SPDIF/AC3 output is intended for stereo PCM or AC3 (utilizing the sound card's SPDIF output (assuming the kX AC3 decoder is not enabled))).

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kermet

using WaveHQ 5.1 sound is fine, but surrounder completely not working, so no bass redirection from stereo sources.

As indicated in a previous post, WaveHQ requires a custom DSP config in order to utilize certain DSP plugins (like Surrounder). i.e. In order to avoid resampling, etc, WaveHQ bypasses the DSP (thus no DSP effects). However, WaveHQ can be routed to the DSP via P16v plugin (and 26/96 router), but (IIRC) the default config only routes P16v to reverb/chorus... for Surrounder to work with WaveHQ, it (P16v plugin) would need to be connected to Surrounder with the appropriate channels connected to the appropriate inputs on Surrounder, etc. (along with the appropriate settings in 24/96 router).

johnsmith1 · Feb 3, 2011, 04:58 AM

Just thought I'd chime in with regards to the "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\Cur rentVersion\Run" entry being wrong. I went from a fully uninstalled 3548 to this 3551 Alpha, and the installer made the following entry:

"C:\Documents and Settings\{username}\kxmixer.exe --startup"

where {username} is of course resolved to your actual username.

before I detected this, ASIO wasn't working at all. Manually registering the kxasio.dll made ASIO work but a manually opened kxmixer could not open the ASIO Control Panel, and some of my setting would not stick after restarts.

Anyways, it appears (for now) that the erroneous registry entry is to blame - but I definitely think there's a bug in the installer.

Oh, and: WinXP SP3 32-bit, Audigy 2 ZS Platinum

jaromanda · Feb 10, 2011, 11:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jaromanda

On further investigation, none of the sliders for the "pseudo plugins" (as listed in fxlib.cpp) work

also, anything I compile - the sliders do not work - however, check box works

and ASIO definitely does no register - have to run regsvr32 kxasio.dll to make asio work - same problem in 3550

so ... it seems I'm the only one with these issues, as nobody else is saying the 3551 is practically useless since half the sliders don't work

is there some guide to upgrading from 3550 to 3551 ... I mean, I uninstalled 3550 completely (folder removed and everything ) before installing 3551 ... tried several times

windows 7 32bit

MusicDream · Feb 12, 2011, 02:51 PM

Hello,
ok, where to begin... my system:

Q6600
X38-DQ6
8GB RAM

Windows 7 x64

Creative Sound Blaster Audigy 2 Platinum eX
PCI\VEN_1102&DEV_7003&SUBSYS_00601102&REV_04

Long time ago I have used Windows XP and don't had any problems, but with Win7 x64 it will not work.

Reboot after installation

Volume is at max

kX Mixer started

Default device: Wave Out HQ

Set Playback Buffer Size to 10 ms (because of crackling, thanks to sapo_joe in Post #18)

Volume can't be changed
Dont' work: Remote, ext. Box, kX Mixer
Work: Properties of Wave Out HQ

Set Master Mixer as default sound-device

Volume can be changed, but not from everywhere
Dont' work: Remote, ext. Box
Work: Properties of Wave Out HQ, kX Mixer

Played with DPS settings, but Surrounder+ don't want work like I want: 5.1 + Surround + Bass Redirection

Reverb Lite and Stereo Chorus don't work to

Reboot system

kX Mixer don't started

C:\Windows\system32\kxmixer.exe --startup changed to:
"C:\Program Files\kX Project\kxmixer.exe" --startup

Reboot system again

kX Mixer started now

Bass Redirection in Surrounder+ work only for 2.1 but not 4.1, 5.1, 6.1, 7.1

Surround in Surrounder+ don't work complete (no sound from sL and sR)

Many Plugins like Mono Mix,Delay A, Chorus works, but can't be modified because scrollbars are on the left and can't be moved.

And now some screenshots.

Some provisional solutions for me:

Problem with 2.0 sound source like winamp solved by connect nw and ne from xrouting to in_L and in_R of Surrounder+. (Thanks for the info Russ in Post #24)

Many Plugins works, but can't be modified => Workaround by Russ

Unsolved problems for me:

Volume can't be changed by remote control and external Box.But for a alpha version it works very well.

Russ · Feb 14, 2011, 06:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jaromanda

so ... it seems I'm the only one with these issues, as nobody else is saying the 3551 is practically useless since half the sliders don't work
i

I was able to do some limited testing (WinXP 32 bit), and can confirm that the sliders in .da plugins do not appear to work (and probably .kxl plugins that use kX provided GUI (i.e. IKXPLUGIN_SIMPLE)).

Sliders do appear to work in .kxl plugins that use a custom GUI (i.e. IKXPLUGIN_OWNER).

I can also confirm that the wrong path is used in the RUN key in the registry and for all of kX's file associations.

Also, the installer no longer lets you choose what to install (e.g. SDK, etc).

totya · Feb 15, 2011, 09:43 AM

Hi, thank you for this excellent application/driver. Original creative driver bad for me, I get distorted record from wave, low audio volume etc...

KX Bugs:

"St Vol" and "Stereo Mix" and "FXMix" (and many I think...) built-in plugin don't works, because slider is can't move. Under x86 and x64 mixer too.

Speaker test all: "failed to create sound".

With master mixer, I get clicking/popping sound. Wave Out 2/3 is OK.
I think this is buffer problem.
Example: With 1008byte buffer I get clear sound with wave out 2/3,
with master mixer with this buffer size, I get comletely noise distortion. Master mixer need 9600byte buffer to clear sound. Shortly, master mixer need bigger buffer than wave out 2/3.

x64 and x86 version setting is common, this is not optimal every times, see this, shortly, if member uses not built-in x86 plugins with x86 mixer, after start x64 mixer, all activated x86 plugins is deleted, and don't works under x86 mixer too, need unregister, and register again.

All KX version problem: uncomfortable record source choice. Example, if I want record from linein, I need goto kx DSP...or load setting. After if I want use skype, need again this... At the moment, this is the one big problem with this driver.

Not bug I think: FXBusX: FXBus0 and FXBus1 is asio source, FXBus2 and FXBus2 is Wave source.
Edit: KX Router settings define this, this is not error or bug.

Thanks again, and sorry my poor english.

Audigy2 Value (SB0400 10k2 [9000]), Win7 x64

totya · Feb 20, 2011, 10:38 AM

Not bug, only idea:
In DSP if I set plugin/effekt to OFF, plugin capton color changed cyan to gray. This is good. But if I set plugin to "bypass", capton color is stay. If I see DSP, I don't see, plugin is bypass or not. But this is very important information. Good idea, if bypass too change caption color to different color. Thanks.

Bug: in plugin/tweak, I click bypass icon, this is works, but this settings don't see plugin/right click menu bypass item (checked state is missing).

silvertones · Feb 20, 2011, 01:02 PM

I'm using 4 pairs of outs from my recording software for my "band" playing live. Each time I boot the computer and go to use it ,even though my DSP config. is still loaded ,one of the pairs doesn't work. I have to reload the config. each time. The first time I installed 3551A I didn't have this problem.

jaromanda · Feb 22, 2011, 09:20 AM

why are you using 32bit (x86) in 64bit (x64) environment

totya · Feb 22, 2011, 09:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jaromanda

why are you using 32bit (x86) in 64bit (x64) environment

Hi!

Because 32bit KX plugins works only with kmixer x86.

And I dont see why better x64 than x86. Memory usage possible over >4GB thats all. Speed is not faster, somtimes x64 version applications slower than x86 version (x86 optimized assembly code is lost, processor cache usage higher etc). IIRC x264 x64 version faster than x86 version, but different only about 10%.

But settings load does not works with kmixer x64 version too.

Dec 18, 2010, 07:02 AM	#3
qweiwei HardwareHeaven Newbie Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 6 Rep Power: 0	Re: 3551 bugs Broadcasting: Foobar0.9.x + oddcastv3 + icecast2 Receiver + playback: Foobar0.9.x + Audigy 2 zs notebook Ploblem: The random beep (or silence) will occur. Test condition: Winxp sp2 1.Play the broadcasting signal a few minutes, and toggle to play local songs, Perhaps will occur the ploblem. then click the play button about 28 times, the sound is normal again. 2.open or close application sometimes will make noise! Last edited by qweiwei; Dec 18, 2010 at 07:22 AM.

Dec 18, 2010, 08:52 PM	#4
Dave_Scream HardwareHeaven Newbie Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 14 Rep Power: 0	Îòâåò: 3551 bugs W7 32bit - 4gb RAM 1. 3551 - ASIO registration problem (need to use regsvr32.exe) 3550 - ASIO registration ok 2. kxmixer.exe crash when doubl click PROFX->AC97 plugin 3. too many kx asio drivers: http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/5602/..._58fde56c_orig (work only first) 3551 installed above 3550. (3550 not deleted before update) Last edited by Dave_Scream; Dec 18, 2010 at 09:03 PM.

Dec 18, 2010, 10:10 PM	Thread Starter #5
Eugene Gavrilov kX Project Lead Programmer and Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 3,119 Rep Power: 75	Îòâåò: 3551 bugs Dave, You need to delete 3550 completely before installing 3551. Otherwise it will not work properly. ASIO should register itself correctly after you remove 3550... jaromanda: will test this, thanks

Dec 19, 2010, 01:53 AM	#6
jaromanda HardwareHeaven Lover Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 138 Rep Power: 33 System Specs	Re: 3551 bugs On further investigation, none of the sliders for the "pseudo plugins" (as listed in fxlib.cpp) work also, anything I compile - the sliders do not work - however, check box works and ASIO definitely does no register - have to run regsvr32 kxasio.dll to make asio work - same problem in 3550 __________________ Feed your head.

Dec 19, 2010, 02:35 PM	#7
ReWired HardwareHeaven Lover Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 100 Rep Power: 0	Re: 3551 bugs Win 7 Ultimate x64, 4GB RAM, SB Live! 5.1 (SB0102 10k1 [bc00]) Installation went normally - clean install. ASIO registered well. I found 2 installations of kX - 64 and 32 bit, does not know why x64 OS needs x86 driver presented (but that's not a big deal anyway). Most of the bundled plugins work as expected. Few of them are buggy - for example Stereo Mixer's sliders do not move (and no sound goes out from the effect, because default positions are set to 0). All of the included ProFX plugins work normally, except ADC, which crashes kX Mixer if I try to tweak it. I play MIDI files only with Windows Media Player. In such scenario there is no matter if soundfont is loaded or not in kX Mixer. Too strange for me, but I am not so deep into Win 7 architecture, codecs and etc. Also when playing MIDI file - the sound comes from FXbus 2/3 as if I play any other multimedia files. There are few Master Mixer issues too. If I use it as Default - sound is distorted raqndomly, crackles sometimes. But this is the only way to hear multichannels audio. Strange thing is, that regardless of what type audio is played - the sound never comes through FXBus 0/1. So, setup is this: Master Mixer as Default FXBus 0/1 - main stereo, 2/3 - front, 4/5 - rear, 6/7 - c/lfe. Playing AC3 5.1 stream produce sound in 2/3, 4/5 and 6/7. Normal stereo file - sound is only through 2/3. The only time I can hear sound out from 0/1 is if this bus is selected as ASIO output. Using bus 2/3 as Default device fixes the audio quality problems (but no AC3/DTS multichannel sound). My DSP is custom made - k1lt, asio, 4 src's, nouse gate. Not tested with default DSP!

Dec 18, 2010, 02:18 AM	#1
Eugene Gavrilov kX Project Lead Programmer and Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 3,119 Rep Power: 75	3551 bugs please post 3551 bugs here 3551 has several 'known issues': * audio quality for master mixer under windows 7 is not optimal * memory leak in directsound applications (need more input on this in corresponding thread) * sfman32 is not functioning properly because it (and kxapi.dll) are not located in system32 folder * IR remote/multimedia keyboard under Win64 * soundfonts under x64 please don't report these issues your feedback is welcome E.

Dec 18, 2010, 04:20 AM	#2
jaromanda HardwareHeaven Lover Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 138 Rep Power: 33 System Specs	Re: 3551 bugs Some initial problems (Windows 7x86) FXMix2 plugin, sliders do not work - double clicking FXMix2, all in levels are shown as 100% value, slider at 0 ... trying to move slider, sets displayed value to 0%, slider will not move you can load the (bundled) profx adc? plugin, but "Tweak..."ing it (i.e. double click it) crashes kx to the point one has to reboot to do anything with kxmixer - same issue with ProFx311_48.kxl (ProFX:ADC) ... lack of profx plugins (either bundled or addon) is a deal breaker for me, so I reverted to 3550 __________________ Feed your head.

Dec 19, 2010, 08:12 PM	#8
Dave_Scream HardwareHeaven Newbie Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 14 Rep Power: 0	Îòâåò: 3551 bugs oh noo.. crackling still here in 3551. dunno what to do, im depressed where the problem can be?? the crackling starts when my pc working for a while... for example now my pc is online for about 5 hours... if i restart, the sound will ok for a while but after few hours crackling start to appear more and more.. I tryed to record this crackles. here the file: 3551.wma — RGhost — ôàéëîîáìåííèê (rewind a little forward). For recording i used tonal signal in FL Studio -> kx Asio 10/12. And in DSP window I just routed ProFX src 10/12 to K1LT WinnMM recording... my soundcard is SB Live! CT4832 help! where i can found solution ((( please. what should i try to look? Attached Thumbnails __________________ OS: W7 - 32bit RAM: 2+2=4 Gb CPU: Intel Core2Quad 6600 2.4 Ghz @ 3.0 Ghz MB: Asus P5K (Intel P35)

Dec 20, 2010, 01:03 AM	#9
jaromanda HardwareHeaven Lover Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 138 Rep Power: 33 System Specs	Re: 3551 bugs Forgot to specify in my posts, sound card = SB0350 __________________ Feed your head.

Dec 27, 2010, 10:37 PM	#10
Ferow2k HardwareHeaven Newbie Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 7 Rep Power: 0	Re: 3551 bugs Hi!, I'm using a SB0102 with Win 7 x64, and I'm having some minor problems in addition to the known issues. When starting windows (or resuming from hibernation) my last DSP configuration is not restored, instead it's reset to the default. However, the position of kX Mixer's sliders is saved and restored correctly. Also, when starting kX Mixer for the first time after windows startup (clicking an icon I pinned on the taskbar), instead of opening the main kX mixer window, it opens the Peak meter window . Closing it and clicking it again a few more times brings up kX Mixer. Note: I had to recreate the taskbar icon after upgrading because the old shortcut became broken (kxmixer.exe was not found at the old location). Both of these were not happening in 3550. Edit: I was also not able to load .kx presets by double-clicking them. I couldn't restore the file association using windows' built-in control panel applet, however I was able to do it using FileTypesMan (freeware from NirSoft). Using this utility I saw that all the .kx? (.kx, .kxl, etc) file associations pointed to c:\windows\system32\kxmixer.exe instead of c:\program files\kx Audio Driver\kxmixer.exe. After correcting all these paths, everything worked again. Edit 2: The previous issue was also caused by a wrong path: Using regedit I saw that there was a key named kX Mixer in "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\Cur rentVersion\Run". Guess what, it ran: c:\windows\system32\kxmixer.exe --startup. After changing it to Program files, the load of settings at startup was fixed! Many thanks for your time (and for this great software!) Ferow2k Last edited by Ferow2k; Jan 1, 2011 at 11:52 PM. Reason: solved

Jan 1, 2011, 12:14 AM	#11
erim HardwareHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 55 Rep Power: 0	Re: 3551 bugs After a couple of system restarts now KX mixer no longer starts up. No tray icon, no sound, no error, nothing. Then I started KX mixer manually and everything was set to default values. Win 7 64. SB Live (SB0060) EDIT: today, after starting the PC, there is sound, but no KX icon or any KX process in the Task Manager. Last edited by erim; Jan 1, 2011 at 12:43 PM.

Jan 14, 2011, 08:27 PM	#15
sghpunk HardwareHeaven Newbie Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 1 Rep Power: 0	Foobar2000 0.9.5.5, and different output formats. Don't even know where to start... So. When I use foobar2000 with default output (DS?), i have differen results on differen output sound formats and kx playback buffer size. 24bit/44100Hz and kx buffer>1008 bytes - causes system hangs (from 1-2 sec to 1-2min, and may start playing after that, and hang time increases with increasing the buffer size.) when start playing or change song, or song position change. 24bit/44100Hz and kx buffer<1008 bytes - only silence. So I can use 24bit/44100Hz with only kx buffer = 1008 bytes. 24bit/48000Hz and kx buffer = 1008 bytes - causes strange noice (seems like it is jerkiness, but its frequency so high, that it looks like noice) with sound (recorded sound). 24bit/48000Hz and 8184>kx buffer>1008 - causes jerky sound like above, but jerking decreases with increasing the buffer size. So I can use 24bit/48000Hz with only kx buffer >= 8184 bytes. With 16bit sound I have no problem I can use 16/44 and 16/48 with kx buffer size>1008 bytes (with buffer = 1008 got little jerkiness on 48kHz). I use SB0530 (Audigy 2 ZS notebook). WinXP SP3 What else information you need? Sorry for my english. I from Ukraine, so I can explain all this in russian )).

Jan 22, 2011, 02:38 PM	#16
silvertones HardwareHeaven Addict Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 283 Rep Power: 39	Re: 3551 bugs As well as 3551 works on my Win7X64 machine I could not get it working on the XP machine. All I could get was output on the front outs. I reinstalled 3550 and it's fine. ???????? I went back and forth a couple of times with no luck.

Jan 22, 2011, 10:05 PM	#17
silvertones HardwareHeaven Addict Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 283 Rep Power: 39	Re: 3551 bugs OOPS!!! Forgot to check the mixer page. The wav slider was down I never use this page as I do a custom DSP and usually everything is up by default. At least 3550 was & even 3551 on the Win7x64 machine. Solved.

Jan 25, 2011, 11:00 PM	#19
Kanst HardwareHeaven Newbie Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 10 Rep Power: 0	Îòâåò: 3551 bugs Problem: Windows 7

Jan 30, 2011, 03:28 PM	#20
Kermet HardwareHeaven Newbie Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 9 Rep Power: 0	AW: 3551 bugs Still crackling noise (also with sapo joe's buffer settings) under Win 7 32bit using Master Mixer. Also surrounder (bass redirection) not working for stereo sources when speaker configuration set to more speakers than 2.1. Using SPIDF as output device I can only get stereo sound from 5.1 sources, using WaveHQ 5.1 sound is fine, but surrounder completely not working, so no bass redirection from stereo sources. So the great kx drivers are unfortunately still useless under Win 7...

Feb 3, 2011, 04:58 AM	#22
johnsmith1 HardwareHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 20 Rep Power: 0	Re: 3551 bugs Just thought I'd chime in with regards to the "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\Cur rentVersion\Run" entry being wrong. I went from a fully uninstalled 3548 to this 3551 Alpha, and the installer made the following entry: "C:\Documents and Settings\{username}\kxmixer.exe --startup" where {username} is of course resolved to your actual username. before I detected this, ASIO wasn't working at all. Manually registering the kxasio.dll made ASIO work but a manually opened kxmixer could not open the ASIO Control Panel, and some of my setting would not stick after restarts. Anyways, it appears (for now) that the erroneous registry entry is to blame - but I definitely think there's a bug in the installer. Oh, and: WinXP SP3 32-bit, Audigy 2 ZS Platinum

Feb 12, 2011, 02:51 PM	#24
MusicDream HardwareHeaven Newbie Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Germany Posts: 1 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	Re: 3551 bugs Hello, ok, where to begin... my system: Q6600 X38-DQ6 8GB RAM Windows 7 x64 Creative Sound Blaster Audigy 2 Platinum eX PCI\VEN_1102&DEV_7003&SUBSYS_00601102&REV_04 Long time ago I have used Windows XP and don't had any problems, but with Win7 x64 it will not work. Reboot after installation Volume is at max kX Mixer started Default device: Wave Out HQ Set Playback Buffer Size to 10 ms (because of crackling, thanks to sapo_joe in Post #18) Volume can't be changed Dont' work: Remote, ext. Box, kX Mixer Work: Properties of Wave Out HQ Set Master Mixer as default sound-device Volume can be changed, but not from everywhere Dont' work: Remote, ext. Box Work: Properties of Wave Out HQ, kX Mixer Played with DPS settings, but Surrounder+ don't want work like I want: 5.1 + Surround + Bass Redirection Reverb Lite and Stereo Chorus don't work to Reboot system kX Mixer don't started C:\Windows\system32\kxmixer.exe --startup changed to: "C:\Program Files\kX Project\kxmixer.exe" --startup Reboot system again kX Mixer started now Bass Redirection in Surrounder+ work only for 2.1 but not 4.1, 5.1, 6.1, 7.1 Surround in Surrounder+ don't work complete (no sound from sL and sR) Many Plugins like Mono Mix,Delay A, Chorus works, but can't be modified because scrollbars are on the left and can't be moved. And now some screenshots. Some provisional solutions for me: Problem with 2.0 sound source like winamp solved by connect nw and ne from xrouting to in_L and in_R of Surrounder+. (Thanks for the info Russ in Post #24) Many Plugins works, but can't be modified => Workaround by Russ Unsolved problems for me: Volume can't be changed by remote control and external Box.But for a alpha version it works very well. Attached Thumbnails Last edited by MusicDream; Feb 16, 2011 at 05:58 PM. Reason: Another workaround found in forum ;)

Feb 15, 2011, 09:43 AM	#26
totya HardwareHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 23 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	Re: 3551 bugs Hi, thank you for this excellent application/driver. Original creative driver bad for me, I get distorted record from wave, low audio volume etc... KX Bugs: "St Vol" and "Stereo Mix" and "FXMix" (and many I think...) built-in plugin don't works, because slider is can't move. Under x86 and x64 mixer too. Speaker test all: "failed to create sound". With master mixer, I get clicking/popping sound. Wave Out 2/3 is OK. I think this is buffer problem. Example: With 1008byte buffer I get clear sound with wave out 2/3, with master mixer with this buffer size, I get comletely noise distortion. Master mixer need 9600byte buffer to clear sound. Shortly, master mixer need bigger buffer than wave out 2/3. x64 and x86 version setting is common, this is not optimal every times, see this, shortly, if member uses not built-in x86 plugins with x86 mixer, after start x64 mixer, all activated x86 plugins is deleted, and don't works under x86 mixer too, need unregister, and register again. All KX version problem: uncomfortable record source choice. Example, if I want record from linein, I need goto kx DSP...or load setting. After if I want use skype, need again this... At the moment, this is the one big problem with this driver. Not bug I think: FXBusX: FXBus0 and FXBus1 is asio source, FXBus2 and FXBus2 is Wave source. Edit: KX Router settings define this, this is not error or bug. Thanks again, and sorry my poor english. Audigy2 Value (SB0400 10k2 [9000]), Win7 x64 Last edited by totya; Feb 20, 2011 at 10:39 AM.

Feb 20, 2011, 10:38 AM	#27
totya HardwareHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 23 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	Re: 3551 bugs Not bug, only idea: In DSP if I set plugin/effekt to OFF, plugin capton color changed cyan to gray. This is good. But if I set plugin to "bypass", capton color is stay. If I see DSP, I don't see, plugin is bypass or not. But this is very important information. Good idea, if bypass too change caption color to different color. Thanks. Bug: in plugin/tweak, I click bypass icon, this is works, but this settings don't see plugin/right click menu bypass item (checked state is missing).

Feb 20, 2011, 01:02 PM	#28
silvertones HardwareHeaven Addict Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 283 Rep Power: 39	Re: 3551 bugs I'm using 4 pairs of outs from my recording software for my "band" playing live. Each time I boot the computer and go to use it ,even though my DSP config. is still loaded ,one of the pairs doesn't work. I have to reload the config. each time. The first time I installed 3551A I didn't have this problem.

Feb 22, 2011, 09:20 AM	#29
jaromanda HardwareHeaven Lover Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 138 Rep Power: 33 System Specs	Re: 3551 bugs why are you using 32bit (x86) in 64bit (x64) environment __________________ Feed your head.