Volume increases when browsing..

ClementGram · Aug 5, 2004, 11:08 PM

Hi,

First of all I would like to thank the developer of the kX project for doing a great job!

My problem is this;

When playing music on my computer, and using Internet Explorer (yes I know it's crappy, but I cba to install firefox

), sometimes, when clicking a link, the volume increases from with some 70 percentage points.

I.e. if I have my volume at 10%, and I open Internet Explorer, and press a link, the volume goes to 80%. This is, as you can imagine, very annoying, causing me some major shocks, when Norah Jones suddenly sings for the entire neighbourhood..

My setup is;

ASUS P4S8X mobo
P4 2.4GHz
512MB DDR-RAM
Soundblaster Audigy Player
etc.

Any suggestions will be appreciated..

Thanks,
Clement

[edit]
Oh well.. I tried firefox, but the problem persists..

[/edit]

**dj_stick** · Aug 6, 2004, 01:12 AM

strange issue, but its best that you keep the volume of your soundcard at 100% (for full quality of the audio) and use your speaker controls to control the volume

5th element · Oct 17, 2004, 11:29 PM

I also have the same problem. What happens is when you load up IE or for me anything that uses sound the volume resets itself to what it was at when the current DSP set up was saved.

So if you say added a notch filter to correct a room node, then saved, but your volume was saved at 50% volume it would save that too. Now if you have your volume set at 10% or 100% if you load something that uses sound it will reset to 50%.

caleb77 · Oct 22, 2004, 03:03 AM

I'm new to kx drivers and I'm having this problem too !!!

noccy · Oct 28, 2004, 04:06 AM

I have got this problem as well, which is an annoyance since the entire kX driver is awesome... Anybody got a solution to this?

The thing is the volume control doesn't move within the volume control, and all you have to do is click it to restore it to the volume it was...

Edit: Ah, just hit me, might be a good thing to tell you about my hardware specs

I got a Creative Audigy soundcard running on a P3@733mhz with 1gb of RAM and Windows XP without any service pack. I noticed that the first user in this thread also used a Audigy soundcard. Could probably be something specific to the Audigy series. You that has posted that you experience the same problem, have you got Audigy as well?

koyak13 · Feb 27, 2005, 09:08 AM

hey mi too... it seems that everytime an application that is somehow involved with sound (like media player, activexes in webpages, or even icq and trillian) the vol will reset to the volume last set before shutdown.

Chester01 · Feb 27, 2005, 08:52 PM

does it just affect the "master mixer"? if so, try bypassing it by using src plugins instead of the default dsp http://n.1asphost.com/Chesteta/full%20dsp.JPG (i use the p16v plugin for my wave in since I have an audigy2.) good luck!

**Eugene Gavrilov** · Feb 28, 2005, 08:00 PM

this is a known issue. no solution except tweaking 'ins and outs' sliders currently exists

E.

koyak13 · Mar 2, 2005, 06:53 AM

any idea wat causes it? is it becos the settings of kx master volumes are not reflected to the applications, which seem to use the vol b4 shutdown that is stored somewhere? can we not find where this somewhere is? does it affaect programs using direct sound only, or all programs? might help alot if we have the code to kx... i am using global audio control to control the volume, so i have to use master volume.... i just use my keyboard to control it...

koyak13 · Mar 2, 2005, 07:38 AM

ok. now i have both sndvol32.exe and kxmixer open.
scenario 1:
kxmixer at vol <A>
shift master mixer vol in sndvol (the windows mixer) to vol .
kxmixer updates to vol .
open skype.
global vol suddenly switches back to vol <A>.
neither kxmixer nor sndvol reflected any changes tho.

scenario 2:
sndvol at vol <A>
shift vol in kxmixer to vol .
sndvol updates to vol .
open skype.
global vol stays at vol .

somehow, as reflected in scenario 1, even tho kxmixer updates to vol that u set in some other application, its not the same as moving the slider in kxmixer. altho one may say "just use kxmixer then" its avoiding the problem altogether. as stated, i m using global audio control to control my vol, tru the keyboard, so i do not have to click and drag, a huge waste of time. problem is, GAC functions just like sndvol32.exe, thus I will experience scenario 1 the next time i open some program that uses sound.

i have a naggy feeling, as i have mentioned, that moving master vol control w/o using kxmixer, tho the changes r reflected in kxmixer, the code that is being run is diffferent from if u drag the mixer slider.

one possible solution for this may be to run (the same code as when u r dragging the slider, i.e set vol and reflect changes) for when updating the kxmixer when using external programs to set the volume instead of just (reflecting the changes to vol).

in another words, when detecting a change to the master vol, kx should not just (display the change) but also (reset the master volume <again> to the desired vol using its own algo).

just my 2cents.

koyak13 · Mar 2, 2005, 08:22 AM

i set vol to <0> and did a registry scan ->results <A>
then i scanned for changes when using kx vs sndvol32.

-scenario 1:
when i set the volume to about 10 using sndvol or any external programs, these changes were made (added):

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Control\De viceClasses\{6994AD04-93EF-11D0-A3CC-00A0C9223196}\##?#PCI#VEN_1102&DEV_0004&SUBSYS_005 31102&REV_03#3&3196FF30&0&60F0#{6994ad04-93ef-11d0-a3cc-00a0c9223196}\#kx_wave0\Device Parameters\Mixer\0\Controls\0]
"Channel0"=dword:00001810
"Channel1"=dword:00001810

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Contro l\DeviceClasses\{6994AD04-93EF-11D0-A3CC-00A0C9223196}\##?#PCI#VEN_1102&DEV_0004&SUBSYS_005 31102&REV_03#3&3196FF30&0&60F0#{6994ad04-93ef-11d0-a3cc-00a0c9223196}\#kx_wave0\Device Parameters\Mixer\0\Controls\0]
"Channel0"=dword:00001810
"Channel1"=dword:00001810

-scenario 2:
when i set the volume to about 10 using kx, these changes were made (added):

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Control\De viceClasses\{6994AD04-93EF-11D0-A3CC-00A0C9223196}\##?#PCI#VEN_1102&DEV_0004&SUBSYS_005 31102&REV_03#3&3196FF30&0&60F0#{6994ad04-93ef-11d0-a3cc-00a0c9223196}\#kx_wave3\Device Parameters\Mixer\0\Controls\0]
"Channel0"=dword:00001900
"Channel1"=dword:00001900

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Contro l\DeviceClasses\{6994AD04-93EF-11D0-A3CC-00A0C9223196}\##?#PCI#VEN_1102&DEV_0004&SUBSYS_005 31102&REV_03#3&3196FF30&0&60F0#{6994ad04-93ef-11d0-a3cc-00a0c9223196}\#kx_wave0\Device Parameters\Mixer\0\Controls\0]
"Channel0"=dword:00001900
"Channel1"=dword:00001900

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Contro l\DeviceClasses\{6994AD04-93EF-11D0-A3CC-00A0C9223196}\##?#PCI#VEN_1102&DEV_0004&SUBSYS_005 31102&REV_03#3&3196FF30&0&60F0#{6994ad04-93ef-11d0-a3cc-00a0c9223196}\#kx_wave1\Device Parameters\Mixer\0\Controls\0]
"Channel0"=dword:00001900
"Channel1"=dword:00001900

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Contro l\DeviceClasses\{6994AD04-93EF-11D0-A3CC-00A0C9223196}\##?#PCI#VEN_1102&DEV_0004&SUBSYS_005 31102&REV_03#3&3196FF30&0&60F0#{6994ad04-93ef-11d0-a3cc-00a0c9223196}\#kx_wave2\Device Parameters\Mixer\0\Controls\0]
"Channel0"=dword:00001900
"Channel1"=dword:00001900

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Contro l\DeviceClasses\{6994AD04-93EF-11D0-A3CC-00A0C9223196}\##?#PCI#VEN_1102&DEV_0004&SUBSYS_005 31102&REV_03#3&3196FF30&0&60F0#{6994ad04-93ef-11d0-a3cc-00a0c9223196}\#kx_wave3\Device Parameters\Mixer\0\Controls\0]
"Channel0"=dword:00001900
"Channel1"=dword:00001900

only in senario 2 did the changes persist when i open skype or any other program, in that the vol do not reset to zero. can this be the answer? when sndvol32 or any extternal program is usedm, wave1, 2 and 3 should also be set simultaneously in the registry? I seriously do not know. Will this affect other apps, or any functionality if i do so??

koyak13 · Mar 3, 2005, 08:23 AM

ok. for all of you out there, like me, who dont just use kxmixer but also other programs to change the master volume, but the master volume just will not stay...

ok... i wrote a simple program that looks periodically the wave0-3 settings in the registry so that when wave0 changes, all the rest will follow suit, as per kxmixer. so that when u use the windows mixer or any other program, the settings will stay, and this vol thing will be solved.

goto
http://www.pscode.com/vb/scripts/Sho...=9046&lngWId=3

or pscode.com and search for allvolctrl under c++.

u have to change the registry settings in the code to suit ur software config tho i think. then compile it and put it in the startup.

this is the temporary workaround i created for my computer for now, while waiting for the bug to be resolved... maybe in the meantime i should include checking for wave volumes too...

Aug 5, 2004, 11:08 PM	#1
ClementGram DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 1 Rep Power: 0	Volume increases when browsing.. Hi, First of all I would like to thank the developer of the kX project for doing a great job! My problem is this; When playing music on my computer, and using Internet Explorer (yes I know it's crappy, but I cba to install firefox ), sometimes, when clicking a link, the volume increases from with some 70 percentage points. I.e. if I have my volume at 10%, and I open Internet Explorer, and press a link, the volume goes to 80%. This is, as you can imagine, very annoying, causing me some major shocks, when Norah Jones suddenly sings for the entire neighbourhood.. My setup is; ASUS P4S8X mobo P4 2.4GHz 512MB DDR-RAM Soundblaster Audigy Player etc. Any suggestions will be appreciated.. Thanks, Clement [edit] Oh well.. I tried firefox, but the problem persists.. [/edit] Last edited by ClementGram; Aug 5, 2004 at 11:25 PM.

Oct 28, 2004, 04:06 AM	#5
noccy DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Karlstad, Sweden Posts: 2 Rep Power: 0	I have got this problem as well, which is an annoyance since the entire kX driver is awesome... Anybody got a solution to this? The thing is the volume control doesn't move within the volume control, and all you have to do is click it to restore it to the volume it was... Edit: Ah, just hit me, might be a good thing to tell you about my hardware specs I got a Creative Audigy soundcard running on a P3@733mhz with 1gb of RAM and Windows XP without any service pack. I noticed that the first user in this thread also used a Audigy soundcard. Could probably be something specific to the Audigy series. You that has posted that you experience the same problem, have you got Audigy as well? Last edited by noccy; Oct 28, 2004 at 02:59 PM.

Feb 27, 2005, 08:52 PM	#7
Chester01 HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: St. Cloud, MN Posts: 492 Rep Power: 0	does it just affect the "master mixer"? if so, try bypassing it by using src plugins instead of the default dsp http://n.1asphost.com/Chesteta/full%20dsp.JPG (i use the p16v plugin for my wave in since I have an audigy2.) good luck! __________________ COMP: Dual Intel PIII 733 Mhz; GeForce 4 Ti 4600; 1.128 Gb RAM; SB0350 (Audigy 2 ZS Platnium) STEREO(I UPGRADED):Crown Audio K1 and K2 amplifiers (4000 watts at .1% THD ), JL 13w7 Subwoofer (6.5 CF) (2) 18" PR's, Klipsch SB-1's, some cement blocks for speaker stands...

Mar 2, 2005, 06:53 AM	#9
koyak13 DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 11 Rep Power: 0	this is crucial man... any idea wat causes it? is it becos the settings of kx master volumes are not reflected to the applications, which seem to use the vol b4 shutdown that is stored somewhere? can we not find where this somewhere is? does it affaect programs using direct sound only, or all programs? might help alot if we have the code to kx... i am using global audio control to control the volume, so i have to use master volume.... i just use my keyboard to control it...

Mar 2, 2005, 07:38 AM	#10
koyak13 DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 11 Rep Power: 0	a possible solution???? ok. now i have both sndvol32.exe and kxmixer open. scenario 1: kxmixer at vol <A> shift master mixer vol in sndvol (the windows mixer) to vol <B>. kxmixer updates to vol <B>. open skype. global vol suddenly switches back to vol <A>. neither kxmixer nor sndvol reflected any changes tho. scenario 2: sndvol at vol <A> shift vol in kxmixer to vol <B>. sndvol updates to vol <B>. open skype. global vol stays at vol <B>. somehow, as reflected in scenario 1, even tho kxmixer updates to vol <b> that u set in some other application, its not the same as moving the slider in kxmixer. altho one may say "just use kxmixer then" its avoiding the problem altogether. as stated, i m using global audio control to control my vol, tru the keyboard, so i do not have to click and drag, a huge waste of time. problem is, GAC functions just like sndvol32.exe, thus I will experience scenario 1 the next time i open some program that uses sound. i have a naggy feeling, as i have mentioned, that moving master vol control w/o using kxmixer, tho the changes r reflected in kxmixer, the code that is being run is diffferent from if u drag the mixer slider. one possible solution for this may be to run (the same code as when u r dragging the slider, i.e set vol and reflect changes) for when updating the kxmixer when using external programs to set the volume instead of just (reflecting the changes to vol). in another words, when detecting a change to the master vol, kx should not just (display the change) but also (reset the master volume <again> to the desired vol using its own algo). just my 2cents.

Oct 17, 2004, 11:29 PM	#3
5th element DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 19 Rep Power: 0	I also have the same problem. What happens is when you load up IE or for me anything that uses sound the volume resets itself to what it was at when the current DSP set up was saved. So if you say added a notch filter to correct a room node, then saved, but your volume was saved at 50% volume it would save that too. Now if you have your volume set at 10% or 100% if you load something that uses sound it will reset to 50%.

Oct 22, 2004, 03:03 AM	#4
caleb77 DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 1 Rep Power: 0	I'm new to kx drivers and I'm having this problem too !!!

Feb 27, 2005, 09:08 AM	#6
koyak13 DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 11 Rep Power: 0	hey mi too... it seems that everytime an application that is somehow involved with sound (like media player, activexes in webpages, or even icq and trillian) the vol will reset to the volume last set before shutdown.

Feb 28, 2005, 08:00 PM	#8
Eugene Gavrilov kX Project Lead Programmer and Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 3,119 Rep Power: 75	this is a known issue. no solution except tweaking 'ins and outs' sliders currently exists E.

Mar 2, 2005, 08:22 AM	#11
koyak13 DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 11 Rep Power: 0	ok i found something... i set vol to <0> and did a registry scan ->results <A> then i scanned for changes when using kx vs sndvol32. -scenario 1: when i set the volume to about 10 using sndvol or any external programs, these changes were made (added): [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Control\De viceClasses\{6994AD04-93EF-11D0-A3CC-00A0C9223196}\##?#PCI#VEN_1102&DEV_0004&SUBSYS_005 31102&REV_03#3&3196FF30&0&60F0#{6994ad04-93ef-11d0-a3cc-00a0c9223196}\#kx_wave0\Device Parameters\Mixer\0\Controls\0] "Channel0"=dword:00001810 "Channel1"=dword:00001810 [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Contro l\DeviceClasses\{6994AD04-93EF-11D0-A3CC-00A0C9223196}\##?#PCI#VEN_1102&DEV_0004&SUBSYS_005 31102&REV_03#3&3196FF30&0&60F0#{6994ad04-93ef-11d0-a3cc-00a0c9223196}\#kx_wave0\Device Parameters\Mixer\0\Controls\0] "Channel0"=dword:00001810 "Channel1"=dword:00001810 -scenario 2: when i set the volume to about 10 using kx, these changes were made (added): [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Control\De viceClasses\{6994AD04-93EF-11D0-A3CC-00A0C9223196}\##?#PCI#VEN_1102&DEV_0004&SUBSYS_005 31102&REV_03#3&3196FF30&0&60F0#{6994ad04-93ef-11d0-a3cc-00a0c9223196}\#kx_wave3\Device Parameters\Mixer\0\Controls\0] "Channel0"=dword:00001900 "Channel1"=dword:00001900 [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Contro l\DeviceClasses\{6994AD04-93EF-11D0-A3CC-00A0C9223196}\##?#PCI#VEN_1102&DEV_0004&SUBSYS_005 31102&REV_03#3&3196FF30&0&60F0#{6994ad04-93ef-11d0-a3cc-00a0c9223196}\#kx_wave0\Device Parameters\Mixer\0\Controls\0] "Channel0"=dword:00001900 "Channel1"=dword:00001900 [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Contro l\DeviceClasses\{6994AD04-93EF-11D0-A3CC-00A0C9223196}\##?#PCI#VEN_1102&DEV_0004&SUBSYS_005 31102&REV_03#3&3196FF30&0&60F0#{6994ad04-93ef-11d0-a3cc-00a0c9223196}\#kx_wave1\Device Parameters\Mixer\0\Controls\0] "Channel0"=dword:00001900 "Channel1"=dword:00001900 [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Contro l\DeviceClasses\{6994AD04-93EF-11D0-A3CC-00A0C9223196}\##?#PCI#VEN_1102&DEV_0004&SUBSYS_005 31102&REV_03#3&3196FF30&0&60F0#{6994ad04-93ef-11d0-a3cc-00a0c9223196}\#kx_wave2\Device Parameters\Mixer\0\Controls\0] "Channel0"=dword:00001900 "Channel1"=dword:00001900 [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Contro l\DeviceClasses\{6994AD04-93EF-11D0-A3CC-00A0C9223196}\##?#PCI#VEN_1102&DEV_0004&SUBSYS_005 31102&REV_03#3&3196FF30&0&60F0#{6994ad04-93ef-11d0-a3cc-00a0c9223196}\#kx_wave3\Device Parameters\Mixer\0\Controls\0] "Channel0"=dword:00001900 "Channel1"=dword:00001900 only in senario 2 did the changes persist when i open skype or any other program, in that the vol do not reset to zero. can this be the answer? when sndvol32 or any extternal program is usedm, wave1, 2 and 3 should also be set simultaneously in the registry? I seriously do not know. Will this affect other apps, or any functionality if i do so?? Last edited by koyak13; Mar 2, 2005 at 11:49 PM.

Mar 3, 2005, 08:23 AM	#12
koyak13 DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 11 Rep Power: 0	a program to correct the above. ok. for all of you out there, like me, who dont just use kxmixer but also other programs to change the master volume, but the master volume just will not stay... ok... i wrote a simple program that looks periodically the wave0-3 settings in the registry so that when wave0 changes, all the rest will follow suit, as per kxmixer. so that when u use the windows mixer or any other program, the settings will stay, and this vol thing will be solved. goto http://www.pscode.com/vb/scripts/Sho...=9046&lngWId=3 or pscode.com and search for allvolctrl under c++. u have to change the registry settings in the code to suit ur software config tho i think. then compile it and put it in the startup. this is the temporary workaround i created for my computer for now, while waiting for the bug to be resolved... maybe in the meantime i should include checking for wave volumes too... Last edited by koyak13; Mar 3, 2005 at 12:16 PM.