SB Live Value - Computer sounds on Mic and Mic unmutable

Snypa · Jul 12, 2005, 06:30 AM

I have two problems right now and i cant seem to find a fix anywhere for either of them.

-First problem im having is i think my sound output is being mixed with my mic input.

When i talk on ventrillo people hear my music running when i have headphones on, they also hear my ingame sounds perfectly. I even unplugged my headphones and they could still hear.

If this helps, when im recording stuff it also records the windows noises, like when you select a window but it wont let you and it goes "Bing" or when a key repeats. But it wont record my winamp music in it.

-Second problem im getting is that i cant mute my mic. Ive tried muting the analog thing but its already muted. I also read some other soutions, but i dont understand all the jargon in it, seriously every second word. Just wish i could find an option labled "Mic Playback" that i could mute.

I like these drivers, so i would realy appriciate some help with this. Dont want to go back to my old drivers

.

Thx.

Maddogg6 · Jul 12, 2005, 07:15 AM

- assuming your using the default KX settings
in the 'recording levels' screen on the KX mixer - adjust the WAV RECORDING LEVEL. This will stop others from hearing those other sounds.

This may seem odd because your NOT recording, but its how it is.

The 'INs & outs' screen on the KX mixer ONLY affects what (and how loud) will come out of your speakers or headphones.

while the 'recording levels' screen sets up what gets 'sampled' for processing - like sending voice data over the internet, recording a wave file, as opposed to JUST being sent to the speakers/headphones.

Snypa · Jul 13, 2005, 05:14 AM

My wav recording lvl is already as low as it can go.

Tried muting everything in ins and outs and it made no diffrence. When i unmuted ac97 though, my mic became ultra sensative.

Thx for the info though. Im wondering if my problem cant simply be fixed by changing setings

.

Maddogg6 · Jul 13, 2005, 05:49 AM

What card do you have?
What driver version is installed?
What DSP set up are you using (the default?)

ITS EASY to mis-understand the mixer and its settings. I'm fairly certain that is your problem, but you may be using a card (SBXXX) with known issues, but what you describe is not one of the known issues.

With the minimal info you provided - its difficult for anyone to help out.

Snypa · Jul 14, 2005, 12:52 AM

"SB Live Value"
Latest KX drivers (installer reads kxdrv3537-full)
DSP? Since i dont know what it is its probably default.

Quote:

ITS EASY to mis-understand the mixer and its settings.

Maybe the first time. Ive read on how to fix a problem, then re-read it 5 times. Supose its still a possability.

Maddogg6 · Jul 14, 2005, 04:53 AM

Is the drop down on the AC97 screen on the KX mixer set to MIC and NOT stereo mix. - I bet its on stereo mix - right - set it to mic.

Snypa · Jul 14, 2005, 08:52 PM

Nope its set to mic right now.

Russ · Jul 22, 2005, 05:33 PM

This is a non-standard setup, but I find that it works better for recording, and for things like VOIP.

In the kX DSP Window: Connect the top 2 outputs of "prolog" directly to the RecL/RecR (15th/16th) inputs of "epilog" (disconnect the current connections to xrouting from the top 2 outputs of prolog).

Then in kxmixer:
On the "Ins and Outs" page, unmute the "AC97" slider, and set volume at max (this slider will control the base recording level for the mic (muting this will mute the mic for recording))
On the "Recording" page, the "Master Recording Level" slider should be at 100%, and all other sliders should be muted (inf).
On the "AC97" page:
The AC97 source (the dropdown box) should be mic.
The "mic boost" option should be set to your preference.
The "Recording Gain" slider can be used to increase the mic level if it is still to low (otherwise leave it at 0).
The "Mic-In" slider is used for mic playback and should be muted unless you want to monitor the mic signal (i.e. hear what you are recording while recording).

Versusnja · Jan 30, 2006, 03:13 PM

I have quite the same thing with SB Live! 5.1 Digital.
I connect 2 speakers to "Front", headphones to "Digital output" and microphone to "Microphone".

If I activate microphone in mixer in AC97 page it becomes unstoppable: I cant mute it, I cant adjust volume. I always hear microphone in speakers ("Front").

I tried to find why it is happening and in DSP disabled everything: disconnected all outputs, removed all connections and still this f&^%ing microphone is in my speakers.

But when I connect speakers to "Rear" and in swap rear and front in Mixer - the problem is gone. Frotn signal goes to rear output on soundcard, speakers and microphone work as they should do.

So as far as I understand, microphone signal somehow directly goes to the front outpust of Live soudncard despite all settings.

What can you say about it? How can I solve this problem?
------------

P.S. Finally I connected desk speakers to Rear, headphones to Front and in DSP connected right and left channel to rear left and rear right. So that the same left and right channel goes to rear and front output. I still hear microphone in my headphones but it does not bother me much.
And still I am interested in why it is happening?

Russ · Jan 31, 2006, 10:47 PM

Make sure that the 'MIC In' slider on the 'AC97' page of kxmixer is muted.
Also, if you are using the default DSP setup, then the 'AC97' slider on the "Ins and Outs' page of kxmixer should be muted (as you would be using the 'AC97' slider on the 'Recording' page instead).

hmp22 · Feb 25, 2006, 04:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maddogg6

- assuming your using the default KX settings
in the 'recording levels' screen on the KX mixer - adjust the WAV RECORDING LEVEL. This will stop others from hearing those other sounds.

This may seem odd because your NOT recording, but its how it is.

The 'INs & outs' screen on the KX mixer ONLY affects what (and how loud) will come out of your speakers or headphones.

while the 'recording levels' screen sets up what gets 'sampled' for processing - like sending voice data over the internet, recording a wave file, as opposed to JUST being sent to the speakers/headphones.

Maddogg6 for the win! You have no idea how much this post just helped me. THANK YOU! http://www.hardwareheaven.com/images/s...big%20grin.gif http://www.hardwareheaven.com/images/s...big%20grin.gif http://www.hardwareheaven.com/images/s...big%20grin.gif http://www.hardwareheaven.com/images/s...big%20grin.gif

h0mer`- · Oct 21, 2006, 08:14 AM

Does anybody know a fix for this now?

I just installed the Driver and having the exact same problem. I already did all the microphon setup tutorials but still i can hear my mic on my speakers.
The only Slider fixing this is the "Mic In" on the AC97 Page in the Mixer but then i cant hear anything. So it doesnt solve my problem because i want to use my microphone for TeamSpeak and stuff....

Please help if you know the reason for that strange behavior.

Russ · Oct 22, 2006, 07:10 AM

Verify the following:

Ins and Outs page of kX Mixer:

AC97 slider is muted (reads 'inf').

Recording Page of kX Mixer:

The Master Recording Level slider is set to 100%.
The AC97 slider is set to 0 dB (reads '0' not 'inf').
All other slider are muted.

AC97 page of kX Mixer:

The AC97 source is set to MIC.
The (Analog Recording) Gain slider is not muted (does not read 'inf').
All other sliders are muted.

With the above setup and the default DSP config, the MIC should work for you with TS. You will not hear the MIC in the speakers unless you are doing the loopback test (verify that you can hear yourself using the loopback test in TS), but others should be able to hear you in TS. Use the MIC boost option and the (Analog Recording) Gain slider (both on the AC97 page of kX Mixer) to adjust the MIC level to the desired volume. Beyond that, verify that TS is setup properly. Try recording something (form the MIC) using Windows Sound Recorder (if you are able to record the MIC in Sound Recorder, than it should work in TS as well).

h0mer`- · Nov 5, 2006, 01:56 PM

Thank you for your answer. I checked everything u said and everything was already set correctly. But i can still hear my microphone on my speaker.

Russ · Nov 5, 2006, 02:46 PM

That should work, so please verify (double-check) the above, and post a sceenshot of your DSP config (a screen shot of the above 3 (see my previous reply), kX Mixer pages would be useful as well).

BTW: In order to post screenshots on this message board, use your own website (or one of the free image hosting websites (www.tinypic.com for example)), to host the image(s), and post the link(s) to the image(s) here.

Jul 12, 2005, 06:30 AM	#1
Snypa DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 10 Rep Power: 0	SB Live Value - Computer sounds on Mic and Mic unmutable I have two problems right now and i cant seem to find a fix anywhere for either of them. -First problem im having is i think my sound output is being mixed with my mic input. When i talk on ventrillo people hear my music running when i have headphones on, they also hear my ingame sounds perfectly. I even unplugged my headphones and they could still hear. If this helps, when im recording stuff it also records the windows noises, like when you select a window but it wont let you and it goes "Bing" or when a key repeats. But it wont record my winamp music in it. -Second problem im getting is that i cant mute my mic. Ive tried muting the analog thing but its already muted. I also read some other soutions, but i dont understand all the jargon in it, seriously every second word. Just wish i could find an option labled "Mic Playback" that i could mute. I like these drivers, so i would realy appriciate some help with this. Dont want to go back to my old drivers . Thx.

Jan 30, 2006, 03:13 PM	#9
Versusnja DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 1 Rep Power: 0	Same thing I have quite the same thing with SB Live! 5.1 Digital. I connect 2 speakers to "Front", headphones to "Digital output" and microphone to "Microphone". If I activate microphone in mixer in AC97 page it becomes unstoppable: I cant mute it, I cant adjust volume. I always hear microphone in speakers ("Front"). I tried to find why it is happening and in DSP disabled everything: disconnected all outputs, removed all connections and still this f&^%ing microphone is in my speakers. But when I connect speakers to "Rear" and in swap rear and front in Mixer - the problem is gone. Frotn signal goes to rear output on soundcard, speakers and microphone work as they should do. So as far as I understand, microphone signal somehow directly goes to the front outpust of Live soudncard despite all settings. What can you say about it? How can I solve this problem? ------------ P.S. Finally I connected desk speakers to Rear, headphones to Front and in DSP connected right and left channel to rear left and rear right. So that the same left and right channel goes to rear and front output. I still hear microphone in my headphones but it does not bother me much. And still I am interested in why it is happening?

Oct 22, 2006, 07:10 AM	#13
Russ HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 5,563 Rep Power: 62	Verify the following: Ins and Outs page of kX Mixer: AC97 slider is muted (reads 'inf'). Recording Page of kX Mixer: The Master Recording Level slider is set to 100%. The AC97 slider is set to 0 dB (reads '0' not 'inf'). All other slider are muted. AC97 page of kX Mixer: The AC97 source is set to MIC. The (Analog Recording) Gain slider is not muted (does not read 'inf'). All other sliders are muted. With the above setup and the default DSP config, the MIC should work for you with TS. You will not hear the MIC in the speakers unless you are doing the loopback test (verify that you can hear yourself using the loopback test in TS), but others should be able to hear you in TS. Use the MIC boost option and the (Analog Recording) Gain slider (both on the AC97 page of kX Mixer) to adjust the MIC level to the desired volume. Beyond that, verify that TS is setup properly. Try recording something (form the MIC) using Windows Sound Recorder (if you are able to record the MIC in Sound Recorder, than it should work in TS as well).

Jul 12, 2005, 07:15 AM	#2
Maddogg6 Tail Razer Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Bernyurass, AZ - USA Posts: 4,027 Rep Power: 0	- assuming your using the default KX settings in the 'recording levels' screen on the KX mixer - adjust the WAV RECORDING LEVEL. This will stop others from hearing those other sounds. This may seem odd because your NOT recording, but its how it is. The 'INs & outs' screen on the KX mixer ONLY affects what (and how loud) will come out of your speakers or headphones. while the 'recording levels' screen sets up what gets 'sampled' for processing - like sending voice data over the internet, recording a wave file, as opposed to JUST being sent to the speakers/headphones.

Jul 13, 2005, 05:14 AM	Thread Starter #3
Snypa DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 10 Rep Power: 0	My wav recording lvl is already as low as it can go. Tried muting everything in ins and outs and it made no diffrence. When i unmuted ac97 though, my mic became ultra sensative. Thx for the info though. Im wondering if my problem cant simply be fixed by changing setings .

Jul 13, 2005, 05:49 AM	#4
Maddogg6 Tail Razer Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Bernyurass, AZ - USA Posts: 4,027 Rep Power: 0	What card do you have? What driver version is installed? What DSP set up are you using (the default?) ITS EASY to mis-understand the mixer and its settings. I'm fairly certain that is your problem, but you may be using a card (SBXXX) with known issues, but what you describe is not one of the known issues. With the minimal info you provided - its difficult for anyone to help out.

Jul 14, 2005, 04:53 AM	#6
Maddogg6 Tail Razer Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Bernyurass, AZ - USA Posts: 4,027 Rep Power: 0	Is the drop down on the AC97 screen on the KX mixer set to MIC and NOT stereo mix. - I bet its on stereo mix - right - set it to mic.

Jul 14, 2005, 08:52 PM	Thread Starter #7
Snypa DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 10 Rep Power: 0	Nope its set to mic right now.

Jul 22, 2005, 05:33 PM	#8
Russ HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 5,563 Rep Power: 62	This is a non-standard setup, but I find that it works better for recording, and for things like VOIP. In the kX DSP Window: Connect the top 2 outputs of "prolog" directly to the RecL/RecR (15th/16th) inputs of "epilog" (disconnect the current connections to xrouting from the top 2 outputs of prolog). Then in kxmixer: On the "Ins and Outs" page, unmute the "AC97" slider, and set volume at max (this slider will control the base recording level for the mic (muting this will mute the mic for recording)) On the "Recording" page, the "Master Recording Level" slider should be at 100%, and all other sliders should be muted (inf). On the "AC97" page: The AC97 source (the dropdown box) should be mic. The "mic boost" option should be set to your preference. The "Recording Gain" slider can be used to increase the mic level if it is still to low (otherwise leave it at 0). The "Mic-In" slider is used for mic playback and should be muted unless you want to monitor the mic signal (i.e. hear what you are recording while recording).

Jan 31, 2006, 10:47 PM	#10
Russ HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 5,563 Rep Power: 62	Make sure that the 'MIC In' slider on the 'AC97' page of kxmixer is muted. Also, if you are using the default DSP setup, then the 'AC97' slider on the "Ins and Outs' page of kxmixer should be muted (as you would be using the 'AC97' slider on the 'Recording' page instead).

Oct 21, 2006, 08:14 AM	#12
h0mer`- DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 17 Rep Power: 0	Does anybody know a fix for this now? I just installed the Driver and having the exact same problem. I already did all the microphon setup tutorials but still i can hear my mic on my speakers. The only Slider fixing this is the "Mic In" on the AC97 Page in the Mixer but then i cant hear anything. So it doesnt solve my problem because i want to use my microphone for TeamSpeak and stuff.... Please help if you know the reason for that strange behavior.

Nov 5, 2006, 01:56 PM	#14
h0mer`- DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 17 Rep Power: 0	Thank you for your answer. I checked everything u said and everything was already set correctly. But i can still hear my microphone on my speaker.

Nov 5, 2006, 02:46 PM	#15
Russ HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 5,563 Rep Power: 62	That should work, so please verify (double-check) the above, and post a sceenshot of your DSP config (a screen shot of the above 3 (see my previous reply), kX Mixer pages would be useful as well). BTW: In order to post screenshots on this message board, use your own website (or one of the free image hosting websites (www.tinypic.com for example)), to host the image(s), and post the link(s) to the image(s) here.