3538i bug reports

Samir

Are you using standard DSP settings?

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BiCho

Guess the static noise problem is not on SB0240 [d000] but on SB0240 [e800] like mine. The other soundcard I use has the same problem. Its model is SB0060 5.1 [e000].

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Russ

That value is the starting I/O address that the card is using and has nothing to do with the card model.

Russ

@BiCho,

Do you happen to know what IRQ, and what I/O range your card(s) was using previously? I was just wondering if it had changed, and if so, then it might be something to look into.

Additionally, is it normal when having 2 sound cards installed, for them to both use the same I/O address range? That seems odd to me, but I have never had 2 audio cards installed so I do not know if it is a common thing.

-Russ

nakamichi

The kX 3538i driver is very buggy. Screwed up so bad,I find this driver unusable for my card (SB0240) Audigy2 Retail
I uninstalled the 3538h driver,which I was using for a long time without problems,except for the bad bug in the 24/96 router with the red and green lights.
Used Driver Cleaner Pro to clean up everything after uninstall.
Installed kX 3538i and rebooted. After reboot,when kX Mixer and the driver were installed,there was a constant medium-volume white noise and the card wasn't doing anything but outputting noise.Even muting it didn't get rid of the noise.
Changing the volume doesn't do anything either.Opened the DSP and I couldn't do anything.The right-click context menu does not work at all,so you can't add any effect,even "peak"
This bug renders the card useless - having Audigy2 Retail (SB0240)
Tried the speaker test - nothing,just noise.Tried fiddling with other options,but the driver screwed up the card from the start.
Uninstalled 3538i and reinstalled 3538h,and now everything works great as before - stable and correct (aside of the annoying 24/96 router bug I mentioned before)

Card using non-shared IRQ and range.Only one card in my PC.

The only thing I found interesting in this driver as a change was the "Show Contents While Dragging Window" option,which is very useful if you disable.Uses a lot less CPU when moving windows.
I couldn't test if the 24/96 router bug was ever fixed,because I couldnt get the card to work by getting rid of the noise bug..
It seems other people with different cards do not have problems with 3538i,just SB0240 users (the majority of kX users have this card,I think)
I also couldn't see what other features this driver offers,compared to 3538h,and if there was any change in performance and the effects and new features added in the DSP
And,also I couldn't check whether 24/96 was still just a placeholder,or it was sorta half-working in an experimental mode,with a fair share of bugs

Russ

There appears to be a bug with the "Show window content while dragging" option.
If you disable that feature, then you do not get the context menus in kxmixer nor in the DSP window (you get the context menu for the individual plugins in the DSP window, but not the menu to add effects, etc)

BTW: The windows need to be closed (if they are currently open) for the change to take effect, and if you do not close the windows after changing this setting, then you may get additional bugs, like not being able to drag the window at all.

How this setting works also depends on the setting of the Windows XP "Show window contents while dragging" option (the Windows XP option however has no effect on the bug). If the Windows XP option is enabled then you will see the Window contents (while dragging) no matter what the kX setting is.

I would guess that the problem you had with the DSP window was related to this bug, and is seperate from the other problems with your card and the 3538i driver.

-Russ

Samir

I tried to install 3538i on clean windows install but SB0240 won't give out any sound... Well, DSP & other options are working fine, but no sound at all...

Any kxconosle stuff to try???

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cocute

I have same problem, 3538i drivers with Audigy2 SB0240 10K2 [9000] not works, not sound output.

with 3538h drivers works.


some solution for this?

John Lodge

The result is better than with 3538H but:

With 5.1 speakers:

1. Toggle swap front rear must be unticked.

2. Sound is adjusted with
a. analog rear
b. generic spdif out
c. analog front, Analog Center, Analog Subwoofer; can all be set to zero.
3. The speaker test works and the Windows sounds work both before and after the driver is loaded (during startup)

4. From wave in (with media player) to record (Adobe Audition) it works both in 0/1 and HQ still takes a bit of fiddling to get a choice that records in float. They did not work though until the speaker test worked it might be the front rear toggle.

5. Cannot get AUX to work peaking around did not yield the input. But upon loading Profx SRC and peaking the input is there.

6. The four windows (master, ins n outs, recording and AC97) are still a mixture of things that work inconsistency and not apparent change with this hardware.

7. I will be more or less waiting for LeMury to recompile the ProfX plugins for anything more.

All in all this is good progress but I am starting to wonder if the default DSP setup with its implicit interactions with the four windows (6. above) is now too complex to get right with the diversity of hardware out there.

...John

John Lodge

See Item 4: nope, cannot now reproduce a reason the wave drivers into Audition did not work at first.

...John

bennetng

I also have the same problem that soundfont synth ch10 is unusable.

Some old problems listed below still remain unfixed:

1. unable to use sf2.1 modulators

2. unable to playback sample in Vienna's loop editor window

3. stange sound come out when there is no sample assigned in some of the midi key range (e.g. if an instrument is mapped to C3-C6, then when playing a key below C3 or above C6 there will be strange sound)

4. Even when voices are still available, stereo samples may lose a voice while playing, causing unwanted panning

Russ

Any work arounds for the midi drums issue?
I can use a softsynth for the drums but unfortuanalty they have different latency times then the kX Synths, so the drums end up being out of sync with the rest of the song, etc. I suppose I could add a delay to FxBus 2/3, but I was wondering if anyone had any other workarounds.

Maddogg6

I went to H because of this, after trying the YouP drivers...

bennetng

You can modify the soundfont so that the drums are in the melodic pool instead of percussion pool, then you can use drums in other MIDI channels apart from ch10.

You can use EMU SoundFont Libarian to do that
http://www.emu.com/support/files/storage/sflib10c.zip

Russ

Interesting...
I will look into that.
Thanks for the info.

Russ

I gave it a try using Vienna Soundfont Studio to edit the soundfont and it works good with some midi apps. Unfortunatley some apps will not let you reassign a percussion track once it is created (it locks it to channel 10), so it is not a good solution for programs like that (hopefully that is not a common thing).

Using a delay on FxBus 2/3 (when using a softsynth for drums) works ok as well, but when used along with other effects it doesn't always work great (depending on the other effects used, it can make other parts of the midi sound out of sync).

In any case thanks again for the info.

gambit2054

Hi, the h version did run very nice, after I changed it to the i version, I have a lot noise on all input channels line in 1 2 3 and its not useable at all, reinstalled the h version again and its run well again.

Using a audigy 2 zs platinum pro, Windows Xp Sp2 ..

Sincerely ...

Den_VS

SB22x Hack WORKS !
but in this mode KXMIXER & KX DSP has some real bad glitches!


At first, IT NEEDS to RESET DEVICE SETTINGS
* this must be done if the sound is dissapeared AT ALL, when you done something ... wrong ... maybe ...

Second thing, is to SETUP YOUR MIXER, LEVELS etc.,
but above all: HeadPhones & Front\Rear Swap chekboxes,
then you MUST SAVE IT (c:\kxdefault.kx) .
.. if you Dont want to waste your time restoring ALL mixer settings by hands IN CASE OF ....

Third, maybe one of the regular things, you should do from now is go to:
KX settings > Driver Compatibility ... >
there you need to check "Sb22x Hack Enabled" checkbox
... nothing happened? thats not all!
NOW YOU CAN'T TOUCH "Front\Rear SWAP" checkbox, DAO checkbox, LFE\C HeadPhones checkbox and much more in KXmixer\KX DSP !!!
Oops ... you did it again - GO RESET DEVICE SETTINGS !!! (or enjoy the silence )

LAST THING TO DO,
is to RESET AC97 STATUS (and check its inputs after reset) ...
... and thats all! realy ?!

Q: how to automate this steps, because this must be done after every reboot ...

DJ Damiani0

I Have a problem with kxdrv3538i

I have Sound Blaster Live 5.1 SB022x 10k1 [C000]. I don't have any sound on rear out only in line out.

My configurate looks this:
http://www.sierzchow.webpark.pl/kxmikser.jpg
http://www.sierzchow.webpark.pl/kxspeakers.jpg
http://www.sierzchow.webpark.pl/ksdsp.jpg

----Hardware / Software configuration---------------
Nazwa sterownika:kX Audio Driver (Debug)
Data sterownika: Jul 14 2005 17:03:16
Wersja sterownika: 5.10.00.3538 - debug
Nazwa DB:none
SB022xb 10k1 [c000]
PCI Information:
Device: 21102 Subsys: 100a1102 ChipRev: a
Card has MPU device
Model karty to 5.1
Card HAS AC97 codec
Codec name: Unk AC97-codec [83847658]
3D Extension: SigmaTel 3D Enhancement
Codec is 2.0 compliant
Capabilities[6a90] : -headphone out-
DAC resolutions : -16-bit- -20-bit-
ADC resolutions : -16-bit- -20-bit-
Ext Capabilities [bc7]: -var rate PCM audio- -2x PCM audio out- -PCM center DAC- -PCM surround DAC- -PCM LFE DAC- -slot/DAC mappings-
Port: c000 Irq: 0x16(22)
Playback buffer: 20a0
Record buffer: 4000
Number of AC3 buffers: 4
Tank memory: 256 kb
GSIF buffer: 256 samples
OS version: [2 5 1 Dodatek Service Pack 2; 2 5 1 Dodatek Service Pack 2; 156 148]
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Please Help Me!

Behaviour

I have same problem http://www.hardwareheaven.com/showthre...ewpost&t=82529
But my card is displayed as 'c400', not as 'c000' and third (center/sub) out works fine.

Russ

@Behavior, your situation is a little different from that of DJ Damiani0. His card did not work with 3537, but you say that yours did, so the situation is a little different (different hardware). It looks as though your card's I/O Address changed when you updated kX and that is why it now shows 'c400'. You may want to boot into safe mode, and check device manager to be sure you card is not listed twice. Also, the description of your problem is a little confusing as you are relating kX's inputs to kX's outputs. You should start by doing the above (the safe mode thing), and then Reintialize the DSP, then set Surrounder to 5.1 with Surround On, and then use kX's speaker test to test your speakers. I do not know if it will work for you, as you may have the same problem as Mistan (or another sb022x 3538i issue), but it is not quite the same problem as DJ Damiani0's.

Behaviour

Ok, i've readed something about and i think that my card is a bit different than DJ Damiani0's.
I've checked in safe mode and my card isn't listed twice.
I reinitialized DSP and set surrounder but that wasn't works.
First after install 3538i i reinstalled winxp, cause i think that was fail of system.
After installing i try to install 3538i but that wasn't works properly on rear, then i tried to check another PCI input on my MoBo with SB.. that also not working.
I tried :
and that wasn't works (i can't find RESET AC97 STATUS in my kX drivers ).
If someone wants, that's my Hardware/Software Configuration:
Driver Name:kX Audio Driver (Debug)
Driver Date: Jul 14 2005 17:03:16
Driver Version: 5.10.00.3538 - debug
DB Name:none
SB022xa 10k1 [c400]
PCI Information:
Device: 21102 Subsys: 80661102 ChipRev: a
Card has MPU device
Card model is '5.1'
Card HAS AC97 codec
Codec name: SigmaTel STAC9708
3D Extension: SigmaTel 3D Enhancement
Codec is 2.0 compliant
Capabilities[6940] :
DAC resolutions : -16-bit- -18-bit-
ADC resolutions : -16-bit- -18-bit-
Ext Capabilities [80]: -PCM surround DAC-
Port: c400 Irq: 0x14(20)
Playback buffer: 20a0
Record buffer: 4000
Number of AC3 buffers: 4
Tank memory: 256 kb
GSIF buffer: 256 samples
OS version: [2 5 1 Dodatek Service Pack 2; 2 5 1 Dodatek Service Pack 2; 156 148]
And last: i wonder why newest drivers (i think they are 'oficially') aren't works properly with one of models .
I hope that will be fixed in newer versions of best drivers (kX ).

Russ

Reset AC97 is on the AC97 page of kX Mixer, or you could open up kX Console and type "sac97 0 0".

Russ

I wonder what is SB022xa -vs- SB022xb?

Russ

It appears to me like some cards are being detected wrong, and kX is doing the translation (that is necessary for people with STAC9758) for cards that do not need it (and not doing it for some cards that do need it), and it is causing problems with those cards. I wonder if there is a way to turn that off/on manually (maybe that is what the SB022x hack thing does)? I would guess that the SB022xa/SB022xb thing would have something to do with the AC97 codec, but looking at other poeple's reports that does not seem to be the case. In any case, it is just a guess.

Russ

I think I may be right with my above guess. I just did a couple searches in the kX forum and this is what I discovered:

My card:

• Detected as SB022xa and has STAC9758 (Unk AC97-codec [83847658])
• Does work with 3538i

kellson's card:

• Detected as SB022xa and has STAC9758
• Does work with 3538i

Darth Vallium's card:

• Detected as SB022xb and has STAC9758
• Does NOT work with 3538i

DJ Damiani0's card:

• Detected as SB022xb and has STAC9758
• Does NOT work with 3538i

Ivank's card:

• Detected as SB022xb and has STAC9758
• Does NOT work with 3538i

Den_VS's card:

• Detected as SB022xb and has STAC9758
• Does NOT work with 3538i

Behaviour's card:

• Detected as SB022xa and has STAC9708 (note: 9708 not 9758)
• Does NOT work with 3538i

From this I would guess that SB022xa does the translation while SB022b does not.

BTW: I did not take into account the sb022x hack option as I am not completley sure what it is supposed to do (and I haven't seen any reports of success by simply enabling that option).

Behaviour

That Den_VS way dosen't works on my SB .

Russ

Yeah, I am not sure what that option is supposed to do, this is what is does with my card:

BTW: The sb022x hack option seems to require the kX Mixer startup sequence for any changes to take effect. This means that any time you change that option, you must either reboot, or Quit kX Mixer and startup kX Mixer again using the --startup switch ("kxmixer --startup"), otherwise it has no effect.

My card works normally without the hack option. If I enable the hack option, the speaker test does not work at all (none of the channels), but I do get sound (seems only to be stereo mix... nothing from FxBux(4/5/6/7/8/9)), although not from my rear speakers. Additionally, none of the volume controls work (it seems to bypass epilog completely). I tried the same thing with my test plugin and had the same result (the test plugin worked without the hack option enabled, but with that option enabled, the rear speakers did not work, and none of the volume controls in the test plugin worked, thus it seems to bypass the test plugin as well). There may be even more going on, I only did some basic testing with it.

In any case, the point of this post was to point out that the sb022x hack option does not take effect by simply enabling/disbaling it, and to point out the the speaker test may or may not work with that enabled, so be sure to test using other methods as well.

rainiere

Just to join the ranks of Audigy 2 users, who can't get the new 3538i drivers to work. In fact, there is only a high level of static coming out of my 6.1 setup.

Went back to previous version, which worked fine.

Hopefully this problem will be solved in the near future, because kx rocks!

microcris

Same here

There is any solution for this?

My Card: