3538j bug reports

Russ · Apr 27, 2006, 05:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thorhajo

Look, buddy. I -am- using analog outputs! The kX driver -calls- them digital outputs. I have no idea why!

Ok, I do not have an a2zsnb, so I have no way of knowing that. You referred to it as Digital Front/Rear/Center/LFE, so I assumed you were talking about digital connections.

In any case, "Toggle Swap Front and Rear mode" only effects the analog outputs (as labelled on epilog), so if you are using the digital pins of epilog for the connections (whether they are digital or not), swap front and rear will not work. Once Eugene figures out all the particulars for that card, then that stuff will probably be fixed, but in the mean time, to swap front and rear you will need to do it manually (swap the relevant connections to epilog in the DSP window).

thorhajo · Apr 27, 2006, 06:29 PM

Actually, I was hoping to get a reply from Eugene, who'd probably know about the output naming issue already. I'm using Creative's drivers for now, since kX refused to do 24/96 ASIO recording.

Russ · May 11, 2006, 02:15 PM

I do not know if this issue existed with previous kX versions, but I just noticed that AC97 is bleeding into a couple ASIO channels under some configurations (even without any AC97 Recording source plugin loaded).

i.e.
If I load the kX default configuration, and unload prolog and epilog, then open up an ASIO host, Line_In bleeds into a couple channels (maybe ASIO 2/3, it is hard to know for sure which two specifically, because of the mapping issue).

If I load ProFX:k1lt then it seems to only bleed into one of those channles.

It does not seem to do it with epilog or ProFX:ASIO loaded.

It is not a major issue, as if I want to use ASIO, I would either have epilog or ProFX:ASIO loaded, but I do not know if this might be causing any problems elsewhere (and why is it the AC97 signal?).

My card is a Live! 5.1 model (SB0228).

Lex Nahumury · May 11, 2006, 05:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Russ

It does not seem to do it with epilog or ProFX:ASIO loaded.

Yes, if neither epilog or pfx:asio is loaded,
those asio registers are more or less left 'undefined or floating'.
This is all microcode register assignment load/unload etc. related.
(Max.M already explained this somewere)
That is one of the reasons why epilog uses all outputs.
Since user always needs epilog, such 'abnomalies' do not occure
so I wouldn't call it a bug. (btw same behaviour in other driver versions)

Put differently, removing Epilog is considered to be "not normal operation"
leading to possible abnormal behaviour.

In this respect, may i remind people that ProFx's Kxlt, asio, src and adc
are and always have been experimental plugins originaly meant for 'kx power users'.

/Lex.

TemporarySaint · May 20, 2006, 10:36 PM

Hi everyone,

Just to confirm the bug that causes a crash when you adjust the master volume fader still exists in 3538j (in fact it seems to happen even more often now). My work around is to never use the master fader and use MX6 for volume control but this leaves a bit to be desired as some software automatically takes control of the master volume and causes a crash.

If anyone has a better workaround I'd love to hear it.

Eugene, If there are any tests that I can run for you to help get to the bottom of this problem just let me know.

TS

jeff312 · Jun 3, 2006, 08:40 PM

Noise in right channel of A2 ZS notebook
http://www.hardwareheaven.com/showthre...647#post919647

tbarbanti · Jun 8, 2006, 07:41 PM

I've a a2zsnb, a interesting feature its that is conector for fone and spdif out are the same:

see this image for details:
http://asia.cnet.com/i/r/2004/nb/39197856/sc002.jpg

a posted a thread with a question about front/rear/sub control:
http://www.hardwareheaven.com/general-discussion/108320-audigy2-zs-notebook-no-rear-center-audio-output.html

In creative drive that has a automatic detection for switch headfone <-> spdif/out , i had some tests with my spdif/in through my desktop and a2zsnb spdif/out, the creative driver made this switch automaticly, I'm think this is a uncovered feature in kx. Can I help in beta tests? I know that is few peoples has this card.

Dancing-Sphinx · Jun 21, 2006, 02:16 PM

ocassional system crash after stopping or pausing playback in 24/96 (32/96) using wave HQ. Tested on 2 different computers w A2 & A2ZS - same problem. drivers setup is default

Russ · Jul 4, 2006, 01:59 AM

I do not know all the details, but, there appears to be a bug when using the kX1/MicIn slider, and the kX0/LineIn slider (Windows Mixer sliders), when assigning them to microcode registers. Under some conditions, when you adjust the slider's value (through the Windows Mixer, or other software), it not only changes the microcode register assigned to it, it also changes another register(s).

i.e.
Create a (.da) plugin similar to the following:

control kX0=0, Dummy0=0.25;
control kX1=0, Dummy1=0.25;

(thats it, you really do not need any inputs/outputs or code to test it).

Using kX Control (-ma), assign kX0/LineIn to the above 'kX0' register, and assign kX1/MicIn to the above 'kX1' regsiter. Then, if you adjust the kX0/LineIn slider, you will see that it not only changes the microcode register kX0, but it also changes the microcode register Dummy0. Similairly, if you adjust kX1/MicIn, it not only changes the microcode register kX1, it also changes the microcode register Dummy1.

More testing would be needed to see if that is the full extent of the issue.

BTW: kX appears to divide the value of those sliders by 4 when updating the microcode registers. I am not sure why it does this, as this does not match the DSP sliders range. i.e. When the Windows Mixer slider is 100%, it sets the DSP slider to 25%.

Owiec · Jul 7, 2006, 04:22 PM

Hi!

Someone could answer me why sometimes when i change volume on my kX3538j driver my PC just reset!?Anyone had similiar problem?Is it possible that's fault of my multimedia settings, cause i changed speaker settings from 5.1 to 2.0?
I've got Soundblaster Live! 5.1 sound card(sb0222).

btw.why i cant use HPh Lt and HPh on surrounder+ settings on my soundcard?

Ferow2k · Jul 8, 2006, 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Owiec

Someone could answer me why sometimes when i change volume on my kX3538j driver my PC just reset!?
Anyone had similiar problem?
Is it possible that's fault of my multimedia settings, cause i changed speaker settings from 5.1 to 2.0?
I've got Soundblaster Live! 5.1 sound card(sb0222).

Yes, I had a similar problem, but it was only when changing Master Record volume. It seems to be an IRQ conflict... What OS ar you using? If it's 2000/XP, to see what error message you got, disable automatic rebooting on errors (System Properties, Advanced options, Startup and recovery) and the next time it happens, you should see the bsod.

Owiec · Jul 8, 2006, 04:56 PM

I use windows xp.I'd turned off OSD, remote IR, and since then it didnt hapend again.Its hard to tell did that really solve problem.I dobut that IRQ is responsible because my pc is just after reinstalling system without any configuration change.Anyway id use your advice, and hope it just wont happend again.thx.

Owiec · Jul 13, 2006, 05:49 PM

Something must be wrong with driver.Now i have blue screen with kx.sys error.

BboyDubC · Jul 16, 2006, 09:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maddogg6

AC3 decoding from external SPDIF has problems:
1) FXBuss 5 has no output
2) Stuttering 'massively'

- through PM its been indicated by another user, that this bug exists in that version as well.

full thread here
http://www.hardwareheaven.com/bug-reports/102532-ac3-decode-spdif-bug.html

Bug confirmed. Responded in the thread.

**Eugene Gavrilov** · Aug 2, 2006, 01:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Russ

I do not know all the details, but, there appears to be a bug when using the kX1/MicIn slider, and the kX0/LineIn slider (Windows Mixer sliders), when assigning them to microcode registers. Under some conditions, when you adjust the slider's value (through the Windows Mixer, or other software), it not only changes the microcode register assigned to it, it also changes another register(s).

i.e.
Create a (.da) plugin similar to the following:

control kX0=0, Dummy0=0.25;
control kX1=0, Dummy1=0.25;

if I'm not mistaken, the driver always assumes the registers are allocated continuously. that is, kX0 should be right before kX1. both sliders assume the control is -stereo-.
for the '-ma' command, you specify the first register only, however, the slider will affect both (n) and (n+1) registers
--

Quote:

Originally Posted by Russ

kX appears to divide the value of those sliders by 4 when updating the microcode registers. I am not sure why it does this, as this does not match the DSP sliders range. i.e. When the Windows Mixer slider is 100%, it sets the DSP slider to 25%.

yes, you are right. the value 25% (0x20000000) is 0dB. higher values are used for amplification, lower - for attenuation. we don't support this for Windows mixer, however, epilog supports amplification (see ins/outs page and epilog microcode for details).

E.

Owiec · Aug 2, 2006, 01:59 AM

Ok.Latest is stable.
Whats wrong with microphone sound when gain and mic volume are on max.?Every time i move mouse there is noise interference.

Russ · Aug 2, 2006, 02:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eugene Gavrilov

if I'm not mistaken, the driver always assumes the registers are allocated continuously. that is, kX0 should be right before kX1. both sliders assume the control is -stereo-.
for the '-ma' command, you specify the first register only, however, the slider will affect both (n) and (n+1) registers

Ok, that makes sense. I forgot that the slider is stereo.

Thanks for the info...
-Russ

May 20, 2006, 10:36 PM	#35
TemporarySaint DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 10 Rep Power: 0	master volume bug Hi everyone, Just to confirm the bug that causes a crash when you adjust the master volume fader still exists in 3538j (in fact it seems to happen even more often now). My work around is to never use the master fader and use MX6 for volume control but this leaves a bit to be desired as some software automatically takes control of the master volume and causes a crash. If anyone has a better workaround I'd love to hear it. Eugene, If there are any tests that I can run for you to help get to the bottom of this problem just let me know. TS

Jun 8, 2006, 07:41 PM	#37
tbarbanti DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 3 Rep Power: 0	I've a a2zsnb, a interesting feature its that is conector for fone and spdif out are the same: see this image for details: http://asia.cnet.com/i/r/2004/nb/39197856/sc002.jpg a posted a thread with a question about front/rear/sub control: http://www.hardwareheaven.com/general-discussion/108320-audigy2-zs-notebook-no-rear-center-audio-output.html In creative drive that has a automatic detection for switch headfone <-> spdif/out , i had some tests with my spdif/in through my desktop and a2zsnb spdif/out, the creative driver made this switch automaticly, I'm think this is a uncovered feature in kx. Can I help in beta tests? I know that is few peoples has this card. Last edited by tbarbanti; Jun 8, 2006 at 07:54 PM.

Apr 27, 2006, 06:29 PM	#32
thorhajo DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 5 Rep Power: 0	Actually, I was hoping to get a reply from Eugene, who'd probably know about the output naming issue already. I'm using Creative's drivers for now, since kX refused to do 24/96 ASIO recording.

May 11, 2006, 02:15 PM	#33
Russ HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 5,563 Rep Power: 62	I do not know if this issue existed with previous kX versions, but I just noticed that AC97 is bleeding into a couple ASIO channels under some configurations (even without any AC97 Recording source plugin loaded). i.e. If I load the kX default configuration, and unload prolog and epilog, then open up an ASIO host, Line_In bleeds into a couple channels (maybe ASIO 2/3, it is hard to know for sure which two specifically, because of the mapping issue). If I load ProFX:k1lt then it seems to only bleed into one of those channles. It does not seem to do it with epilog or ProFX:ASIO loaded. It is not a major issue, as if I want to use ASIO, I would either have epilog or ProFX:ASIO loaded, but I do not know if this might be causing any problems elsewhere (and why is it the AC97 signal?). My card is a Live! 5.1 model (SB0228).

Jun 3, 2006, 08:40 PM	#36
jeff312 DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 2 Rep Power: 0	Noise in right channel of A2 ZS notebook http://www.hardwareheaven.com/showthre...647#post919647

Jun 21, 2006, 02:16 PM	#38
Dancing-Sphinx DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 5 Rep Power: 0	ocassional system crash after stopping or pausing playback in 24/96 (32/96) using wave HQ. Tested on 2 different computers w A2 & A2ZS - same problem. drivers setup is default

Jul 4, 2006, 01:59 AM	#39
Russ HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 5,563 Rep Power: 62	I do not know all the details, but, there appears to be a bug when using the kX1/MicIn slider, and the kX0/LineIn slider (Windows Mixer sliders), when assigning them to microcode registers. Under some conditions, when you adjust the slider's value (through the Windows Mixer, or other software), it not only changes the microcode register assigned to it, it also changes another register(s). i.e. Create a (.da) plugin similar to the following: control kX0=0, Dummy0=0.25; control kX1=0, Dummy1=0.25; (thats it, you really do not need any inputs/outputs or code to test it). Using kX Control (-ma), assign kX0/LineIn to the above 'kX0' register, and assign kX1/MicIn to the above 'kX1' regsiter. Then, if you adjust the kX0/LineIn slider, you will see that it not only changes the microcode register kX0, but it also changes the microcode register Dummy0. Similairly, if you adjust kX1/MicIn, it not only changes the microcode register kX1, it also changes the microcode register Dummy1. More testing would be needed to see if that is the full extent of the issue. BTW: kX appears to divide the value of those sliders by 4 when updating the microcode registers. I am not sure why it does this, as this does not match the DSP sliders range. i.e. When the Windows Mixer slider is 100%, it sets the DSP slider to 25%.

Jul 7, 2006, 04:22 PM	#40
Owiec DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 6 Rep Power: 0	Hi! Someone could answer me why sometimes when i change volume on my kX3538j driver my PC just reset!?Anyone had similiar problem?Is it possible that's fault of my multimedia settings, cause i changed speaker settings from 5.1 to 2.0? I've got Soundblaster Live! 5.1 sound card(sb0222). btw.why i cant use HPh Lt and HPh on surrounder+ settings on my soundcard?

Jul 8, 2006, 04:56 PM	#42
Owiec DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 6 Rep Power: 0	I use windows xp.I'd turned off OSD, remote IR, and since then it didnt hapend again.Its hard to tell did that really solve problem.I dobut that IRQ is responsible because my pc is just after reinstalling system without any configuration change.Anyway id use your advice, and hope it just wont happend again.thx.

Jul 13, 2006, 05:49 PM	#43
Owiec DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 6 Rep Power: 0	Something must be wrong with driver.Now i have blue screen with kx.sys error.

Aug 2, 2006, 01:59 AM	#46
Owiec DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 6 Rep Power: 0	Ok.Latest is stable. Whats wrong with microphone sound when gain and mic volume are on max.?Every time i move mouse there is noise interference.