WTT: Core 2 Duo Gaming Rig and 20.1" Widescreen LCD For A Compareable Laptop

F1N3ST · Jan 7, 2007, 11:32 PM

E6300 Cooled by Scythe Ninja SCNJ-1100P CPU Cooler
2x1GB pqi TURBO DDR2-667 Stable at Cas-4 DDR2-800
ECS P965T-a Motherboard (Crossfire Capable)
eVGA 7600GT Cooled by Zalman VF-900Cu
Seagate 320GB 7200.10 SATA 3.0Gb/s Perpendicular recording Hard Drive
Lite-On CD Burner
Samsung DVD Burner
XION XON-103 Case and 450W 18A PSU
2x120mm Fans 1x80mm fan
Thermaltake Power Express 250W GPU PSU
Creative Sound Blaster Live! 24-Bit 7.1Channel
56k PCI Modem
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Sceptre 20.1" Widescreen LCD 1680x1050 DVI/VGA
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1350$+Shipping
I will trade for a good laptop, or laptop+cash. Here is what i want in the laptop
Turion X2 or Core (2) Duo
1-2GB Of Dual-Channel RAM
Geforce Go 7600 Or X1600 (The higher the better)
80GB+ HD
1280x800+ Res
Some form of wireless internet connection

Or

MrSpock2002 · Jan 12, 2007, 03:57 AM

Hey,
I've been thinking about a desktop. Here's the specs of my laptop. My laptop is worth more then your machine. But I might be interested in a trade. Get the specs here: http://www.vdhsoft.be/specs/24799.htm

fobis · Jan 12, 2007, 10:41 PM

Laptops of that caliber do cost tons more than PC's... As in.. usually more than 1500 at least.

F1N3ST · Jan 15, 2007, 02:51 AM

There about 1100 brand new with windows......

fobis · Jan 15, 2007, 04:14 AM

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Originally Posted by F1N3ST

There about 1100 brand new with windows......

ooo, if that's the case, where can i find some of these?

my friends are looking into getting some new laptops.

F1N3ST · Jan 15, 2007, 05:54 PM

www.ibuypower.com Im not lying either go check it out.

MrSpock2002 · Jan 15, 2007, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by fobis

Laptops of that caliber do cost tons more than PC's... As in.. usually more than 1500 at least.

My machine was $2200 last Feb. I bought it in Norway. My laptop has better specs then the US versions. It also has more accessories.

I also just looked at that ibuypower.com None of those compare to mine. I have a desktop P4, not one of those chinsy mobility Core 2 things. Also none of those displays can even compare. Not to mention the optical drive, the full size keyboard with Num pad. I could go on and on.

I had set up a laptop on that site and the cheapest I came to with decent and close somewhat specs to mine was $1800. Not bad considering mine is roughly a year old. I would never buy off those people anyways. I know of 2 people who bought desktops from them, and their warrenties were not honored. Besides that, they build their machines like crap.

Randomletters · Jan 15, 2007, 08:24 PM

Sorry not trying to rag on your laptop at all Spock as I would love to have one with comparable specs but a Core 2 Duo is Better then a P4 in every way. The Asus S96J Notebook on ibuypower is 1200 and is better then the laptop your looking to trade.

MrSpock2002 · Jan 15, 2007, 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Randomletters

Sorry not trying to rag on your laptop at all Spock as I would love to have one with comparable specs but a Core 2 Duo is Better then a P4 in every way. The Asus S96J Notebook on ibuypower is 1200 and is better then the laptop your looking to trade.

Oh I didn't see any other machines, just the ones they build. I'll have another look later on. But as far as the core 2 duo being better, I dissagree big time.

Nice myspace btw :P

**kris23** · Jan 16, 2007, 12:52 AM

umm core 2 duo processors run circles around ANY pentium 4 an E6300 desktop can destroy an amd fx62 desktop when OCed

a laptop core 2 duo trashes any of the previous netburst architecture P4, celeron or any AMD processor out now.....

reading is good you should read benchmarks on core 2 duos vs everything else

my dad has a toshiba laptop with a 3.06GHz mobile P4 processor while his specs dont compare to that, the darn thing cant run more than 30 minutes on the battery power... 2 gigs ddr 333 of ram and mobility radeon 9000....i dont know what monitor resolution he has but its a 17" widescreen

i can say to FIN3ST you DONT want a laptop running that ESPECIALLY if its running a "desktop" 650 processor.

get a core 2 duo notebook like XPS if anyone is willing to give it up.

Randomletters · Jan 16, 2007, 01:06 AM

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Originally Posted by MrSpock2002

Oh I didn't see any other machines, just the ones they build. I'll have another look later on. But as far as the core 2 duo being better, I dissagree big time.

Nice myspace btw :P

You can disagree all you want, Doesnt change fact.

http://www23.tomshardware.com/cpu.html Select the e6600 ( Or even the 6400 ) then select your processor, C2D beats it in every test, Hell, Compare the 6600 to my Pentium D @ 3.5GHZ and the 6600 with its stock 2.4ghz beats it in every test.

Are you confusing the Core 2 duo for something else perhaps?

Ty for the Myspace comment, Someday ill put a background up lol

MrSpock2002 · Jan 16, 2007, 01:42 AM

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Originally Posted by kris23

umm core 2 duo processors run circles around ANY pentium 4 an E6300 desktop can destroy an amd fx62 desktop when OCed

a laptop core 2 duo trashes any of the previous netburst architecture P4, celeron or any AMD processor out now.....

reading is good you should read benchmarks on core 2 duos vs everything else

my dad has a toshiba laptop with a 3.06GHz mobile P4 processor while his specs dont compare to that, the darn thing cant run more than 30 minutes on the battery power... 2 gigs ddr 333 of ram and mobility radeon 9000....i dont know what monitor resolution he has but its a 17" widescreen

i can say to FIN3ST you DONT want a laptop running that ESPECIALLY if its running a "desktop" 630 processor.

get a core 2 duo notebook like XPS if anyone is willing to give it up.

The processor in my notebook is the 650 with the upgraded net architecture. Also it is capable of running any 64 bit program. I've benched it with a core 2 duo notebook about a month ago, and both marks were nearly identicle. I'll see if I can find the bench info later on. I myself prefere the Pentium 4 over the core 2 duo. I didn't buy my notebook to be "portable and run on battery power". It is always plugged in. I just like being able to take it with me when I travel. It's all my opinion. Besides that, my machine is just under a year old, and at the time it was one of the most powerful notebooks money could buy. The main reason why I had even thought about a possable trade if at all was the fact that I game heavily. And the X600 isn't putting out like it did then with the newest games. Remember back then sli notebooks didn't really exist yet. Hell only now very very few companies are even making them. Alienware is the first to actually market the sli notebook, and until recently had 2 patents preventing anyone else marketing them. Only now are other's starting to make them available. Sadly that's the only real setback with my machine is the video.

**kris23** · Jan 16, 2007, 02:09 AM

if its only good plugged in, then theres no point in having a laptop. as you said, it matches a core 2 duo which runs off a much better architecture........ that means it consumes less power, and less heat get the core 2 duo if u want mobility, get this thing if you just want to stay home..... find a laptop with a desktop E6600 and have a godly laptop but stay home

Randomletters · Jan 16, 2007, 02:22 AM

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Originally Posted by MrSpock2002

The processor in my notebook is the 650 with the upgraded net architecture. Also it is capable of running any 64 bit program. I've benched it with a core 2 duo notebook about a month ago, and both marks were nearly identicle. I'll see if I can find the bench info later on.

So by what Ive said earlier and what you've just said your Pentium 4 650 is faster then my Pentium D?

fobis · Jan 16, 2007, 06:30 AM

I'm still seeing at least 1400 on that site... if you upgrade the CPU to the 2.33GHz one.

MrSpock2002 · Jan 16, 2007, 06:35 AM

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Originally Posted by fobis

I'm still seeing at least 1400 on that site... if you upgrade the CPU to the 2.33GHz one.

Yeah, no mater what anyone says, to get a quality laptop of this caliber will cost you.

I've decided I'm going to keep the laptop, and just build me a desktop. Even if I was to trade for that computer, I'd have to upgrade the power supply and video cards, not to mention more hard drives. It just isnt worth it. It will be cheaper for me just to build a desktop.

**kris23** · Jan 17, 2007, 01:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Randomletters

So by what Ive said earlier and what you've just said your Pentium 4 650 is faster then my Pentium D?

obviously theres something wrong with this picture then..... maybe he just wanted to get his hands on a Core 2 Duo Machine? either way since hes just gonna build one.....ya good enough, interesting stuff on this thread.

interesting how he said "worth more than your desktop" anything can be worth more than anything if its expensive.....hey i got a pretty new computer with a p4 socket 478 thing. costed $1200 just last year the 478 processor was $200 last year......... now theyre like 50 bucks if you can find them.....theyre so old

you can get a pentium 3 machine and put it in a 24k gold case then it would REALLY be worth more but it still cant outperform the cheaper item.

you cant judge computers by worth, only by its performance.......besides the value of something deminishes the moment its used.

MrSpock2002 · Jan 17, 2007, 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by kris23

obviously theres something wrong with this picture then..... maybe he just wanted to get his hands on a Core 2 Duo Machine? either way since hes just gonna build one.....ya good enough, interesting stuff on this thread.

interesting how he said "worth more than your desktop" anything can be worth more than anything if its expensive.....hey i got a pretty new computer with a p4 socket 478 thing. costed $1200 just last year the 478 processor was $200 last year......... now theyre like 50 bucks if you can find them.....theyre so old

you can get a pentium 3 machine and put it in a 24k gold case then it would REALLY be worth more but it still cant outperform the cheaper item.

you cant judge computers by worth, only by its performance.......besides the value of something deminishes the moment its used.

Actually when it comes to a laptop being compared to a desktop, yes you can judge it by worth. To get a machine that can match a well built desktop you would have to spend well over $2800. That's because it costs a whoe hell of a lot more to built a laptop then a desktop. To custom build a desktop *tower only* with sli 7900's or x1800's 2gb of ram, and oh lets go with a core 2 duo. To make it interesting an audigy card. You could build that if you scrounged around on the net *somthing you can't do with a laptop* you could do it for roughly $1800, $2000 tops. Now, make that machine a laptop, and your spending well over $3000. I know, my brother just had an alienware sli notebook made. Now if you say Alienware is overpriced, fine, go with a dell xps system which can now be built with sli. Still $3000. So as you can see a laptop is much more valuable then a desktop when it comes to cost. I'll add one other point. To get a machine with the exact specs of my laptop would be $1500 to $1800. Sure you can go to a cheap site like ibuypower, but your going to have to skimp on atleast one thing to make a laptop on that site be $1200 bucks. Either screen quality *mine has a high definition display with brightview* a smaller HDD 80GB or so, slower memory, a cramped keyboard *mine is a fullsize keyboard with num pad*, etc. So in reality you can not compare desktop prices with laptop prices. Laptop's that can compete with a comparable desktop will always cost more then the desktop. Those are actual facts, not opinions.

**kris23** · Jan 17, 2007, 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by MrSpock2002

Actually when it comes to a laptop being compared to a desktop, yes you can judge it by worth. To get a machine that can match a well built desktop you would have to spend well over $2800. That's because it costs a whoe hell of a lot more to built a laptop then a desktop. To custom build a desktop *tower only* with sli 7900's or x1800's 2gb of ram, and oh lets go with a core 2 duo. To make it interesting an audigy card. You could build that if you scrounged around on the net *somthing you can't do with a laptop* you could do it for roughly $1800, $2000 tops. Now, make that machine a laptop, and your spending well over $3000. I know, my brother just had an alienware sli notebook made. Now if you say Alienware is overpriced, fine, go with a dell xps system which can now be built with sli. Still $3000. So as you can see a laptop is much more valuable then a desktop when it comes to cost. I'll add one other point. To get a machine with the exact specs of my laptop would be $1500 to $1800. Sure you can go to a cheap site like ibuypower, but your going to have to skimp on atleast one thing to make a laptop on that site be $1200 bucks. Either screen quality *mine has a high definition display with brightview* a smaller HDD 80GB or so, slower memory, a cramped keyboard *mine is a fullsize keyboard with num pad*, etc. So in reality you can not compare desktop prices with laptop prices. Laptop's that can compete with a comparable desktop will always cost more then the desktop. Those are actual facts, not opinions.

true a laptop will always cost more than the comparable desktop.......but your hardware is old accept that fact already.

if you say your machine is that great then show us proof..... show your benches and against what mobile processor, or comparable core 2 duo laptop

MrSpock2002 · Jan 18, 2007, 01:20 AM

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Originally Posted by kris23

true a laptop will always cost more than the comparable desktop.......but your hardware is old accept that fact already.

if you say your machine is that great then show us proof..... show your benches and against what mobile processor, or comparable core 2 duo laptop

My last reply was stating facts. I wasn't saying how great my machine was at all. I was explaining how a laptop is worth more then a desktop of comparable value by about 30 to 40 percent in most cases.

I also commented on the ibuypower website, stating that there wasn't a true comparable laptop to mine in the $1100 to $1200 braket. Every one on there in that price braket had 1 component that was less then my particular laptop. Either slower memory, sucky screen, etc. So I was stating that it was unfair to judge my machine upagainst a machine of that price range.

As for the benchmarks I'm still looking thru my cd's. I had PC Marks but when I had to format I lost the key. I've contacted support for help but still no reply.

**kris23** · Jan 18, 2007, 02:08 AM

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Originally Posted by MrSpock2002

My last reply was stating facts. I wasn't saying how great my machine was at all. I was explaining how a laptop is worth more then a desktop of comparable value by about 30 to 40 percent in most cases.

I also commented on the ibuypower website, stating that there wasn't a true comparable laptop to mine in the $1100 to $1200 braket. Every one on there in that price braket had 1 component that was less then my particular laptop. Either slower memory, sucky screen, etc. So I was stating that it was unfair to judge my machine upagainst a machine of that price range.

As for the benchmarks I'm still looking thru my cd's. I had PC Marks but when I had to format I lost the key. I've contacted support for help but still no reply.

alright, i see what you are getting at, but you should notice the better side of these notebooks, im comparing to the Battalion 101-RL 700

your notebook first has the desktop P4 650 processor which can really decrease its value as a mobility item, the notebook has a core 2 duo which is less power consuming and i say superior to the pentium 4 in performance until i see those benches if possible.

then theres the DDR2 667 memory in the battalion book vs your DDR2 533 another win,

you have a full size keyboard which is very nice if youre looking for some sort of desktop replacement laptop so thats a plus if you like to type alot of documents through out the day but its not THAT great if its just to be used for gaming,

then theres the graphics cards of the systems x1600 can easily beat an x600 mobility radeon.

hard drives in the battalion are much better since they run of of sata150 vs IDE and they have 5200rpm and 7200rpm drives vs your 4800rpm

it has the same display resolution at 1440x900 but i dont know the details of either so i cant go further

i cant really tell the rest of the details so it seems to be a 5 for Battalion to 3 points for the HP book

your laptop certainly is powerful for something from last year but you simply cant say its worth more than the desktop now since its just slightly inferior to the $1375 laptop that i described.

F1N3ST · Jan 18, 2007, 04:50 AM

Just to add to this ruined thread lol, here are some benches from a while ago.

3DMark 2001SE Default Settings

3DMark 2006 Default Settings

Aquamark3 Default Settings

Counter-Strike: Source 1024x768 4xAA Highest Everything (Full HDR)

Half-Life 2: Lost Coast 1024x768 6xAA Highest Everything (Full HDR)

BTW Im not trading anymore, im going SFF, a mATX mobo and a small case are coming soon

**kris23** · Jan 18, 2007, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by F1N3ST

Just to add to this ruined thread lol, here are some benches from a while ago.

BTW Im not trading anymore, im going SFF, a mATX mobo and a small case are coming soon

man i just love wreaking havok

lol so what did you want the laptop for then anyway? a more compact computer? or something else?

are these benches for the machine you wanted to sell?

F1N3ST · Jan 18, 2007, 10:28 PM

Yes, it is the machine i am wanting to sell. Yes because it is smaller (And cooler)

mxrev134 · Feb 18, 2007, 11:31 PM

f1n3st, I don't know if you read it yet, but i sent you a PM a while ago and haven't had a reply. please hit me back whenever you get a chance.

thanks again.

AnthonyJPerez · Feb 21, 2007, 07:43 PM

The core 2 duo processors beat a pentium 4 any day. Pentium 4 is just too old of an architecture to compete now. I would love for spock to post those benchmarks, but he probably wont seeing as the core 2 duo will murder his defenseless pentium 4 hahah.

RIP P4

Asmoday · Feb 22, 2007, 09:17 PM

Guys I suggest you get back to the original topic of the thread, this is not the place for debates.

Jan 7, 2007, 11:32 PM	#1
F1N3ST DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Michigan, USA Posts: 123 Rep Power: 0	FS/FT: Core 2 Duo Gaming Rig and 20.1" Widescreen LCD For A Compareable Laptop E6300 Cooled by Scythe Ninja SCNJ-1100P CPU Cooler 2x1GB pqi TURBO DDR2-667 Stable at Cas-4 DDR2-800 ECS P965T-a Motherboard (Crossfire Capable) eVGA 7600GT Cooled by Zalman VF-900Cu Seagate 320GB 7200.10 SATA 3.0Gb/s Perpendicular recording Hard Drive Lite-On CD Burner Samsung DVD Burner XION XON-103 Case and 450W 18A PSU 2x120mm Fans 1x80mm fan Thermaltake Power Express 250W GPU PSU Creative Sound Blaster Live! 24-Bit 7.1Channel 56k PCI Modem ~ Sceptre 20.1" Widescreen LCD 1680x1050 DVI/VGA ~ 1350$+Shipping I will trade for a good laptop, or laptop+cash. Here is what i want in the laptop Turion X2 or Core (2) Duo 1-2GB Of Dual-Channel RAM Geforce Go 7600 Or X1600 (The higher the better) 80GB+ HD 1280x800+ Res Some form of wireless internet connection Or __________________ E6300@2330Mhz--> 4x1GB G.Skill 800 4-4-4-12--> ABIT IB9 Motherboard--> eVGA 7800GT--> XION Xon-103 Case/450W PSU--> Last edited by F1N3ST; Jan 8, 2007 at 03:38 AM.

Jan 12, 2007, 10:41 PM	#3
fobis DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 716 Rep Power: 51	Laptops of that caliber do cost tons more than PC's... As in.. usually more than 1500 at least. __________________ MacBook Pro Mac OS X Leopard 10.5.4 Intel Core 2 Duo 2.33GHz 2GB DDR2-677 ATi Mobility Radeon X1600 256MB 120GB 7200RPM SATA HDD

Jan 15, 2007, 02:51 AM	Thread Starter #4
F1N3ST DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Michigan, USA Posts: 123 Rep Power: 0	There about 1100 brand new with windows...... __________________ E6300@2330Mhz--> 4x1GB G.Skill 800 4-4-4-12--> ABIT IB9 Motherboard--> eVGA 7800GT--> XION Xon-103 Case/450W PSU-->

Jan 15, 2007, 05:54 PM	Thread Starter #6
F1N3ST DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Michigan, USA Posts: 123 Rep Power: 0	www.ibuypower.com Im not lying either go check it out. __________________ E6300@2330Mhz--> 4x1GB G.Skill 800 4-4-4-12--> ABIT IB9 Motherboard--> eVGA 7800GT--> XION Xon-103 Case/450W PSU-->

Jan 15, 2007, 08:24 PM	#8
Randomletters ))<>(( Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 2,418 Rep Power: 54	Sorry not trying to rag on your laptop at all Spock as I would love to have one with comparable specs but a Core 2 Duo is Better then a P4 in every way. The Asus S96J Notebook on ibuypower is 1200 and is better then the laptop your looking to trade. __________________ <----------- Sexy Budget Rig stats to the left.

Jan 12, 2007, 03:57 AM	#2
MrSpock2002 Because I said so! Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Watkins Glen NY Posts: 542 Rep Power: 0	Hey, I've been thinking about a desktop. Here's the specs of my laptop. My laptop is worth more then your machine. But I might be interested in a trade. Get the specs here: http://www.vdhsoft.be/specs/24799.htm

Jan 16, 2007, 12:52 AM	#10
kris23 Going Insane..... Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 6,017 Rep Power: 131 System Specs	umm core 2 duo processors run circles around ANY pentium 4 an E6300 desktop can destroy an amd fx62 desktop when OCed a laptop core 2 duo trashes any of the previous netburst architecture P4, celeron or any AMD processor out now..... reading is good you should read benchmarks on core 2 duos vs everything else my dad has a toshiba laptop with a 3.06GHz mobile P4 processor while his specs dont compare to that, the darn thing cant run more than 30 minutes on the battery power... 2 gigs ddr 333 of ram and mobility radeon 9000....i dont know what monitor resolution he has but its a 17" widescreen i can say to FIN3ST you DONT want a laptop running that ESPECIALLY if its running a "desktop" 650 processor. get a core 2 duo notebook like XPS if anyone is willing to give it up. __________________ Hardwareheaven Super-Moderator Building a new computer system and not sure where to start? Click Here! last updated (5/18/11) Rosewill FUTURE case replaces CM 690 II with its greater interior length. Building a PC: Step by Step Guide Written by Kristopher Pedemonte and Nathan Marks-Forder Edited by Allan Campbell Questions or Comments? feel free to post them in the forums! Last edited by kris23; Jan 16, 2007 at 01:38 AM.

Jan 16, 2007, 02:09 AM	#13
kris23 Going Insane..... Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 6,017 Rep Power: 131 System Specs	if its only good plugged in, then theres no point in having a laptop. as you said, it matches a core 2 duo which runs off a much better architecture........ that means it consumes less power, and less heat get the core 2 duo if u want mobility, get this thing if you just want to stay home..... find a laptop with a desktop E6600 and have a godly laptop but stay home __________________ Hardwareheaven Super-Moderator Building a new computer system and not sure where to start? Click Here! last updated (5/18/11) Rosewill FUTURE case replaces CM 690 II with its greater interior length. Building a PC: Step by Step Guide Written by Kristopher Pedemonte and Nathan Marks-Forder Edited by Allan Campbell Questions or Comments? feel free to post them in the forums!

Jan 16, 2007, 06:30 AM	#15
fobis DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 716 Rep Power: 51	I'm still seeing at least 1400 on that site... if you upgrade the CPU to the 2.33GHz one. __________________ MacBook Pro Mac OS X Leopard 10.5.4 Intel Core 2 Duo 2.33GHz 2GB DDR2-677 ATi Mobility Radeon X1600 256MB 120GB 7200RPM SATA HDD

Jan 18, 2007, 04:50 AM	Thread Starter #22
F1N3ST DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Michigan, USA Posts: 123 Rep Power: 0	Just to add to this ruined thread lol, here are some benches from a while ago. 3DMark 2001SE Default Settings 3DMark 2006 Default Settings Aquamark3 Default Settings Counter-Strike: Source 1024x768 4xAA Highest Everything (Full HDR) Half-Life 2: Lost Coast 1024x768 6xAA Highest Everything (Full HDR) BTW Im not trading anymore, im going SFF, a mATX mobo and a small case are coming soon __________________ E6300@2330Mhz--> 4x1GB G.Skill 800 4-4-4-12--> ABIT IB9 Motherboard--> eVGA 7800GT--> XION Xon-103 Case/450W PSU-->

Jan 18, 2007, 10:28 PM	Thread Starter #24
F1N3ST DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Michigan, USA Posts: 123 Rep Power: 0	Yes, it is the machine i am wanting to sell. Yes because it is smaller (And cooler) __________________ E6300@2330Mhz--> 4x1GB G.Skill 800 4-4-4-12--> ABIT IB9 Motherboard--> eVGA 7800GT--> XION Xon-103 Case/450W PSU-->

Feb 18, 2007, 11:31 PM	#25
mxrev134 DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: dirty Jer-Z Posts: 19 Rep Power: 0	f1n3st, I don't know if you read it yet, but i sent you a PM a while ago and haven't had a reply. please hit me back whenever you get a chance. thanks again.

Feb 21, 2007, 07:43 PM	#26
AnthonyJPerez DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 1 Rep Power: 0	The core 2 duo processors beat a pentium 4 any day. Pentium 4 is just too old of an architecture to compete now. I would love for spock to post those benchmarks, but he probably wont seeing as the core 2 duo will murder his defenseless pentium 4 hahah. RIP P4 Last edited by AnthonyJPerez; Feb 21, 2007 at 07:48 PM.

Feb 22, 2007, 09:17 PM	#27
Asmoday Demonic Join Date: May 2002 Location: In the cold, dark north... Posts: 5,198 Rep Power: 92 System Specs	Guys I suggest you get back to the original topic of the thread, this is not the place for debates.