WTB: Want to buy Broken 9700/9800 Pro card(s)

BLHealthy4life · May 17, 2003, 10:53 PM

I'm looking to purchase a messed up/nonfunctional 9700 Pro or 9800 Pro; for cheap of course. I need the card to have the stock VPU shim mounted. If the stock HSF is not available (though preferred), no problem. I need a card(s) that have had no hardware mods or BIOS changes. Thanks.
Please e-mail me at BLHealthy4life@aol.com

HardWired · May 18, 2003, 06:44 AM

Why, so you can try and RMA them and get a new $300-$400 card out of the deal and then head off to eBay with them. That would be the only reason I could think of.

If not that, what is your plan for them once you acquire these "messed up/nonfunctional" cards?

Do tell...

BlkJello · May 18, 2003, 06:52 AM

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Originally posted by HardWired
Why, so you can try and RMA them and get a new $300-$400 card out of the deal and then head off to eBay with them. That would be the only reason I could think of.

If not that, what is your plan for them once you acquire these "messed up/nonfunctional" cards?

Do tell...

Does it really matter what he does?? Dont jump to conclusions captain america!!!!!

Jeez...

scobywhru · May 18, 2003, 07:35 AM

I know I wouldn't mind having one to make a nice keyring for, go nice along side my Voodoo 3

HardWired · May 18, 2003, 08:23 AM

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Originally posted by BlkJello
Does it really matter what he does?? Dont jump to conclusions captain america!!!!! Jeez...

Yeah, to me it does matter. If it's a completely innocent reason I'm sure he won't have any trouble explaining to all that visit these forums and all that he's addressing the post to.

I (and the decent people I know) don't like a scam artist. What other reason could he possibly have? Can you think of one? Oh that's right...to you it doesn't really matter

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Originally posted by scobywhru
I know I wouldn't mind having one to make a nice keyring for, go nice along side my Voodoo 3

Sure I could see for that reason, but this guy doesn't want it to be messed with or altered. And he doesn't want just one, he wants as many as he can come up with, hence the request for "card(s)" with "no hardware mods or BIOS changes".

What would hardware or bios changes matter if he was just going to hang it/them on a wall. I smell a scam. Whether it's to scam ATI with their RMA service or to scam "Joe Consumer" who he tells, "it was working just fine before I sold/sent it to you".

BWX · May 18, 2003, 08:32 AM

I saw an auction for some on ebay- the guy had like 5 or 6 cards that worked but were "displaying artifacts" he was selling all of them for pretty cheap- maybe I can find the auction.

BlkJello · May 18, 2003, 08:45 AM

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Originally posted by HardWired
Yeah, to me it does matter. If it's a completely innocent reason I'm sure he won't have any trouble explaining to all that visit these forums and all that he's addressing the post to.

I (and the decent people I know) don't like a scam artist. What other reason could he possibly have? Can you think of one? Oh that's right...to you it doesn't really matter

Sure I could see for that reason, but this guy doesn't want it to be messed with or altered. And he doesn't want just one, he wants as many as he can come up with, hence the request for "card(s)" with "no hardware mods or BIOS changes".

What would hardware or bios changes matter if he was just going to hang it/them on a wall. I smell a scam. Whether it's to scam ATI with their RMA service or to scam "Joe Consumer" who he tells, "it was working just fine before I sold/sent it to you".

Your post was harsh and accusational from the start!!!! Its none of your damn concern what he does with whatever. And saying thats the only reason you can think of is just being judgemental from the gate. The guy just asked if anyone had a buggered card that someone wanted to sell. You can put your badge down now...... your shift is over. Damn dood....you could have just asked him what he needed it for....and not told him....blah blah blah thats the only reason blah blah. Im freaking tired of pompous people taking it upon themselves to find out what the other guy is doin. Yes it does matter to me about fraud and how much it costs us all. But when people get to the point of immediatly jumping down someones throat in sarcastic accusations....... you need to step off.

HardWired · May 18, 2003, 10:16 AM

My post wasn't meant to be sarcastic. It was a direct question. And if your so freaking tired, then just push away from the keyboard and call it a day mate.

If you think I have to sit hear like a helpless bunny and read these posts and pass them off at face value, you're wrong. This is a public forum. When you make a post, expect it to be criticized, or at least scrutinized. As I read my first post, I will admit it was "harsh and accusational ", but the wording in his post was so odd and specific it raised an eyebrow. And as it turns out, I was right on the money. Maybe not about the eBay part, but at least about scamming ATI and their warranty/RMA policy.

I took it upon myself to find out "what the other guy is doin" (as you put it) and found my answer by searching his prior posts:

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Originally posted by BLHealthy4life
Def. need to remove the shim. I removed mine..it's very easy to do. If you take a ruler and lay it across the shim, the ruler will not touch the GPU - crazy. When I removed my shim, I was able to get 40Mhz more out of the core.

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Originally posted by BLHealthy4life
I used a wood chisel since the edge is already angled. It popped right off for me. I don't recommend using a razor. They are flimpsy and dangerous. Use something very sturdy to give you some leverage. But honestly, mine popped right off with hardly any force. Start from one of the corners. I used AS3 on the core.

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Originally posted by BLHealthy4life at 02:24 PM on 05-16-2003 in the Current ATI Graphic Cards forum
How much do you want for it? Has it ever been overclocked? I fried mine yesterday.

You see, he modified his card then "fried it", so now he want's someone elses dead card so he can RMA it to ATI in place of his own. If it wasn't previously modified (probably the hsf and epoxied ramsinks that he can't remove...ooops, there I go again with the accusations), he would have no problem sending it in for an RMA. And the reason he doesn't care if it has a stock ATI hsf is because he has one from his own dead, previously modified card.

That sir, is a scam, and I'll point it out every time...whether you like it or not.

When you modify hardware, (which I do), you had better be able to replace it with your own money after you kill it.

Under ATI's warranty, you cannot modify a card and then have it replaced free-of-charge. They will replace, and should only be expected to replace in cases of defective materials and/or workmanship.

I expect your answer to this post to be something like "I don't care, you still had no right to blah blah blah...

Whatever...have a nice day

BLHealthy4life · May 18, 2003, 01:59 PM

Hi There Hardwired. This is my plan. I was going to buy as many messed up cards as I can, RMA all of them, get new cards and sell them on Ebay hoping that you would buy one of them. You are exactly right!! You have me figured out, you are a genius. That's a good plan and I actually didn't think of that...would it work?

But seriously, I'm looking for A card, one card really. It could be either a 9700 or 9800. The reason I have "card(s)" is for the simple reason that If I had the opportunity to purchase two cards, then I would for cheap. This could be 2 9700s, or 2 9800s or one of each or whatever.

But tell me this Hardwired, why would someone sell me a card that they themselves could RMA and get a new card?? Think about that. Would YOU sell me a card when in fact YOU yourself could RMA that card and get a new one? Well since I've already stated that you are a genius, I don't think that you would. Soo...

I'm simply looking for a few a card(s) to mess around with. I've got my original card that I fried and I'm trying to make a peltied HSF for my next ATI card. Just an innocent post in search of a card or two to tinker with.

I did see the guy on Ebay selling the set of 5 cards that were PREVIOUSLY RMA'ed. I wrote several e-mails to him about the cards when all 5 were only $9.99. The next worning when I went t place a bid on them, the auction had ended and i missed my chance. He has the auction up again, BUT as of lastnight they were at $57 - No thanks. So I e-mailed him and asked if he had just ONE messed up card he was willing to sell and he doesn't.

Didn't mean to get your wires in a bundle hardwired. Untangle them, put some wire look around them and take it easy.

PS - No expoxied ramsinks or HSF. Everything has been removed Hardwired. Why the hell would anyone expoxy ramsinks/HSF to their card anyway with the possibility of frying it?

Edit: corrected some typos.

BLHealthy4life · May 18, 2003, 02:29 PM

Just read some of your other comments Hardwired. As a matter of fact I do not have the original HSF for the card. I bought an OC System Level 2 card that came with the Zalman 80 heatpipe. You can look up my same name on Rage3d and see that my card had the Zalman. So, If I do not care if the stock HSF comes with the broken card, AND I do not have a stock HSF myself, how do you suppose I would RMA this card?? Do tell...

Kgentatszu] · May 18, 2003, 02:37 PM

hardwired, sorry to say, seems like he got you.....

BlkJello · May 18, 2003, 04:52 PM

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Originally posted by HardWired
My post wasn't meant to be sarcastic. It was a direct question. And if your so freaking tired, then just push away from the keyboard and call it a day mate.

If you think I have to sit hear like a helpless bunny and read these posts and pass them off at face value, you're wrong. This is a public forum. When you make a post, expect it to be criticized, or at least scrutinized. As I read my first post, I will admit it was "harsh and accusational ", but the wording in his post was so odd and specific it raised an eyebrow. And as it turns out, I was right on the money. Maybe not about the eBay part, but at least about scamming ATI and their warranty/RMA policy.

I took it upon myself to find out "what the other guy is doin" (as you put it) and found my answer by searching his prior posts:

You see, he modified his card then "fried it", so now he want's someone elses dead card so he can RMA it to ATI in place of his own. If it wasn't previously modified (probably the hsf and epoxied ramsinks that he can't remove...ooops, there I go again with the accusations), he would have no problem sending it in for an RMA. And the reason he doesn't care if it has a stock ATI hsf is because he has one from his own dead, previously modified card.

That sir, is a scam, and I'll point it out every time...whether you like it or not.

When you modify hardware, (which I do), you had better be able to replace it with your own money after you kill it.

Under ATI's warranty, you cannot modify a card and then have it replaced free-of-charge. They will replace, and should only be expected to replace in cases of defective materials and/or workmanship.

I expect your answer to this post to be something like "I don't care, you still had no right to blah blah blah...

Whatever...have a nice day

Your being an overzealous hall monitor boy!!! Your post was NOT a direct question....it was a deliberate accusation!! Oh and im sure the people are so happy and comforted that your on the case.

" Just read some of your other comments Hardwired. As a matter of fact I do not have the original HSF for the card. I bought an OC System Level 2 card that came with the Zalman 80 heatpipe. You can look up my same name on Rage3d and see that my card had the Zalman. So, If I do not care if the stock HSF comes with the broken card, AND I do not have a stock HSF myself, how do you suppose I would RMA this card?? Do tell..."

So what do you have to say for yourself MR DOGOOD?? You need to get a life and quit being a "ATI" cop. Hmmmm.... lemme guess....your a guy who tried out for the police force but was turned down....so now your using your crime fighting abilty to make sure everyones on the up and up at this forum. Wow i feel better already!!!

Oh yeah....dont forget to put your crime fighting cape on!!! You owe the man an apology....but he wont get it......because your just doin your duty aye??? Pfffft.... oh well.... Good luck on your quest BLHealthy4life. Be careful though..... Hardwired is watching!!!!! LOL What a joke!!!!

HardWired · May 18, 2003, 06:39 PM

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Originally posted by BLHealthy4life
[B}I'm simply looking for a few a card(s) to mess around with. I've got my original card that I fried and I'm trying to make a peltied HSF for my next ATI card. Just an innocent post in search of a card or two to tinker with.

Dude you already have a dead card "to tinker with". How many dead cards would one need to tinker with before they think they've got a good cooling solution to mount on a card that is not dead? And why is it so important that it not be hardware modified or bios modified if you're just going to tinker with it from an external point of view? Come on....why is having an unmodified bois so important? BlkJello doesn't seem to have enough intelligence to insult, but I do.

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Originally posted by BlkJello
Your being an overzealous hall monitor boy!!! Your post was NOT a direct question....it was a deliberate accusation!! Oh and im sure the people are so happy and comforted that your on the case.

<snip>

So what do you have to say for yourself MR DOGOOD?? You need to get a life and quit being a "ATI" cop. Hmmmm.... lemme guess....your a guy who tried out for the police force but was turned down....so now your using your crime fighting abilty to make sure everyones on the up and up at this forum. Wow i feel better already!!! Oh yeah....dont forget to put your crime fighting cape on!!! You owe the man an apology....but he wont get it......because your just doin your duty aye??? Pfffft.... oh well.... Good luck on your quest BLHealthy4life. Be careful though..... Hardwired is watching!!!!! LOL What a joke!!!!

As for you Mr. BlkJello, my accusation (as you refer to it) was not directed towards you. Your replies are nothing but juvenile ranting and name calling that will now be ignored. If you cannot have a discussion without all the shouting and name calling, like BLHealthy4life seems to be able to do, then I will not converse with you any further. - - - Plonk!

BlkJello · May 18, 2003, 07:13 PM

Thank you!!! thats all i was after.

BlkJello · May 18, 2003, 07:19 PM

Im sorry if i was loud and juvenile ...like you say.

But the way you are questioning people is absolutely NAZI. And you needed alittle disrespect back at ya! Good day. Out

BLHealthy4life · May 18, 2003, 08:37 PM

[QUOTE]Originally posted by HardWired
[B]Dude you already have a dead card "to tinker with". How many dead cards would one need to tinker with before they think they've got a good cooling solution to mount on a card that is not dead? And why is it so important that it not be hardware modified or bios modified if you're just going to tinker with it from an external point of view? Come on....why is having an unmodified bois so important? BlkJello doesn't seem to have enough intelligence to insult, but I do.

Hardwired, my post asked for a MESSED UP or nonfunctional card. I did not specifically ask for a DEAD card. The reason I do not want any hardware mods or BIOS mods done to the card is the simple fact that when these mods are done, then there is no telling what is wrong with the card. My card will pass POST but yet the screen is garbage when the display starts to show, so technically my card is not dead...though I gave that impression with the description that my card was "fried".

There is a guy selling messed up cards on Ebay, he states that someone may be able to repair them or dowhatever with them that they like. I did not make my post until after I saw his site and thought it was a good idea. If I received a dead card, then I guess the BIOS wouldn't matter, BUT if I received a card that is functional yet is messed up (as requested), and it has had mods done to it, then there is no telling what is wrong with it.

Why don't you go harass the guy on ebay for selling those cards or better yet why don't you harass the ones that are trying to get the cards. What does it matter to you what I want to do with the cards if you know that you aren't going to participate in either the selling of one to me.

I really do not have to answer to you Hardwired but I'm taking the time to do so so that others know I'm not a scammer, deciever, or a thief of any sort. AND I ESPECIALLY WOULD NOT TRY TO SCAM FELLOW ATI USERS. But you know, It never crossed my mind to do what you have accussed me of, I guess only scammers, deceivers, and thiefs think like you do.

I guess my post should have read: I'm looking for a 9700/9800 Pro card(s) that are as stock as possible that will not be RMA'ed. What I do woth this card/these cards are my personal business and should be of no concern to anyone else. If you feel that I'm up to something suspicious such as to scam fellow a fellow ATI user or users, or ATI themselves, then by all means do not participate in offering to sell me your card.

Like I said Hardwired, if the person had a card that was eligable for RMA, why would they not do it themselves? If the owners or owners decide they want to sell their stock messed up/nonfunctional card(s) to me, that is their business and my business - not your business or anyone else's business.

I'm done answering your questions. If you have any more questions, turn and face the nearest corner of the room in which you are located and ask the wall your question(s).

Oh and by the way, your quote about Blkjello and his insults makes no sense.

Thanks

kinetic · May 18, 2003, 08:49 PM

Chill out guys this is the buy and sell forum not the Flame Warzone! You have been warned!

***craig5320*** · May 18, 2003, 08:54 PM

The original post is not going to have any offers so I'm closing this thread, and please don't get so heated there really is no need. Wanna let off steam head into the FlameWarzone.

May 17, 2003, 10:53 PM	#1
BLHealthy4life DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 18 Rep Power: 0	WTB: Want to buy Broken 9700/9800 Pro card(s) I'm looking to purchase a messed up/nonfunctional 9700 Pro or 9800 Pro; for cheap of course. I need the card to have the stock VPU shim mounted. If the stock HSF is not available (though preferred), no problem. I need a card(s) that have had no hardware mods or BIOS changes. Thanks. Please e-mail me at BLHealthy4life@aol.com

May 18, 2003, 07:35 AM	#4
scobywhru DriverHeaven Senile Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Penthouse Basement Posts: 619 Rep Power: 0	I know I wouldn't mind having one to make a nice keyring for, go nice along side my Voodoo 3 __________________

May 18, 2003, 08:32 AM	#6
BWX unplugged Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: USNY Posts: 19,669 Rep Power: 110 System Specs	I saw an auction for some on ebay- the guy had like 5 or 6 cards that worked but were "displaying artifacts" he was selling all of them for pretty cheap- maybe I can find the auction. __________________

May 18, 2003, 01:59 PM	Thread Starter #9
BLHealthy4life DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 18 Rep Power: 0	Hi There Hardwired. This is my plan. I was going to buy as many messed up cards as I can, RMA all of them, get new cards and sell them on Ebay hoping that you would buy one of them. You are exactly right!! You have me figured out, you are a genius. That's a good plan and I actually didn't think of that...would it work? But seriously, I'm looking for A card, one card really. It could be either a 9700 or 9800. The reason I have "card(s)" is for the simple reason that If I had the opportunity to purchase two cards, then I would for cheap. This could be 2 9700s, or 2 9800s or one of each or whatever. But tell me this Hardwired, why would someone sell me a card that they themselves could RMA and get a new card?? Think about that. Would YOU sell me a card when in fact YOU yourself could RMA that card and get a new one? Well since I've already stated that you are a genius, I don't think that you would. Soo... I'm simply looking for a few a card(s) to mess around with. I've got my original card that I fried and I'm trying to make a peltied HSF for my next ATI card. Just an innocent post in search of a card or two to tinker with. I did see the guy on Ebay selling the set of 5 cards that were PREVIOUSLY RMA'ed. I wrote several e-mails to him about the cards when all 5 were only $9.99. The next worning when I went t place a bid on them, the auction had ended and i missed my chance. He has the auction up again, BUT as of lastnight they were at $57 - No thanks. So I e-mailed him and asked if he had just ONE messed up card he was willing to sell and he doesn't. Didn't mean to get your wires in a bundle hardwired. Untangle them, put some wire look around them and take it easy. PS - No expoxied ramsinks or HSF. Everything has been removed Hardwired. Why the hell would anyone expoxy ramsinks/HSF to their card anyway with the possibility of frying it? Edit: corrected some typos. Last edited by BLHealthy4life; May 18, 2003 at 02:06 PM.

May 18, 2003, 07:13 PM	#14
BlkJello DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: So Cal USA Posts: 69 Rep Power: 0	Thank you!!! thats all i was after. __________________ Athlon64 x2 5600+ Asus m2n sli deluxe 4gig corsair ddr800 Asus EN8800 GT TOP 512mb 1x 200gb sata 2x 160gb sata Winxp Pro Sp 2\Win Vista ult 64bit dual boot

May 18, 2003, 06:44 AM	#2
HardWired DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Rocky Mountains Posts: 61 Rep Power: 0	Why, so you can try and RMA them and get a new $300-$400 card out of the deal and then head off to eBay with them. That would be the only reason I could think of. If not that, what is your plan for them once you acquire these "messed up/nonfunctional" cards? Do tell...

May 18, 2003, 02:29 PM	Thread Starter #10
BLHealthy4life DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 18 Rep Power: 0	Just read some of your other comments Hardwired. As a matter of fact I do not have the original HSF for the card. I bought an OC System Level 2 card that came with the Zalman 80 heatpipe. You can look up my same name on Rage3d and see that my card had the Zalman. So, If I do not care if the stock HSF comes with the broken card, AND I do not have a stock HSF myself, how do you suppose I would RMA this card?? Do tell...

May 18, 2003, 02:37 PM	#11
Kgentatszu] DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Australia Posts: 1,802 Rep Power: 0	hardwired, sorry to say, seems like he got you.....

May 18, 2003, 07:19 PM	#15
BlkJello DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: So Cal USA Posts: 69 Rep Power: 0	Im sorry if i was loud and juvenile ...like you say. But the way you are questioning people is absolutely NAZI. And you needed alittle disrespect back at ya! Good day. Out __________________ Athlon64 x2 5600+ Asus m2n sli deluxe 4gig corsair ddr800 Asus EN8800 GT TOP 512mb 1x 200gb sata 2x 160gb sata Winxp Pro Sp 2\Win Vista ult 64bit dual boot

May 18, 2003, 08:37 PM	Thread Starter #16
BLHealthy4life DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 18 Rep Power: 0	[QUOTE]Originally posted by HardWired [B]Dude you already have a dead card "to tinker with". How many dead cards would one need to tinker with before they think they've got a good cooling solution to mount on a card that is not dead? And why is it so important that it not be hardware modified or bios modified if you're just going to tinker with it from an external point of view? Come on....why is having an unmodified bois so important? BlkJello doesn't seem to have enough intelligence to insult, but I do. Hardwired, my post asked for a MESSED UP or nonfunctional card. I did not specifically ask for a DEAD card. The reason I do not want any hardware mods or BIOS mods done to the card is the simple fact that when these mods are done, then there is no telling what is wrong with the card. My card will pass POST but yet the screen is garbage when the display starts to show, so technically my card is not dead...though I gave that impression with the description that my card was "fried". There is a guy selling messed up cards on Ebay, he states that someone may be able to repair them or dowhatever with them that they like. I did not make my post until after I saw his site and thought it was a good idea. If I received a dead card, then I guess the BIOS wouldn't matter, BUT if I received a card that is functional yet is messed up (as requested), and it has had mods done to it, then there is no telling what is wrong with it. Why don't you go harass the guy on ebay for selling those cards or better yet why don't you harass the ones that are trying to get the cards. What does it matter to you what I want to do with the cards if you know that you aren't going to participate in either the selling of one to me. I really do not have to answer to you Hardwired but I'm taking the time to do so so that others know I'm not a scammer, deciever, or a thief of any sort. AND I ESPECIALLY WOULD NOT TRY TO SCAM FELLOW ATI USERS. But you know, It never crossed my mind to do what you have accussed me of, I guess only scammers, deceivers, and thiefs think like you do. I guess my post should have read: I'm looking for a 9700/9800 Pro card(s) that are as stock as possible that will not be RMA'ed. What I do woth this card/these cards are my personal business and should be of no concern to anyone else. If you feel that I'm up to something suspicious such as to scam fellow a fellow ATI user or users, or ATI themselves, then by all means do not participate in offering to sell me your card. Like I said Hardwired, if the person had a card that was eligable for RMA, why would they not do it themselves? If the owners or owners decide they want to sell their stock messed up/nonfunctional card(s) to me, that is their business and my business - not your business or anyone else's business. I'm done answering your questions. If you have any more questions, turn and face the nearest corner of the room in which you are located and ask the wall your question(s). Oh and by the way, your quote about Blkjello and his insults makes no sense. Thanks

May 18, 2003, 08:49 PM	#17
kinetic DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Manchester England Posts: 2,559 Rep Power: 0	Chill out guys this is the buy and sell forum not the Flame Warzone! You have been warned!

May 18, 2003, 08:54 PM	#18
*craig5320* HH Administrator Join Date: May 2002 Location: Manchester, UK Posts: 8,565 Rep Power: 445 System Specs	The original post is not going to have any offers so I'm closing this thread, and please don't get so heated there really is no need. Wanna let off steam head into the FlameWarzone. __________________ HardwareHeaven on Facebook