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Ati Mobility Radeon 9700 With XP SP 2

Discussion in 'AMD Graphics Cards' started by Matrixdz2002, May 28, 2005.

  1. Matrixdz2002

    Matrixdz2002 New Member

    Hello All,

    My Vaio Laptop was running just fine until yesterday. I finally decided to install XP SP2. When I re-booted to complete the SP2 install, I got always the same error "ati2dvag driver has stopped working" then I have a blue screen. All I did was the SP2 install and it broke the ati driver. I uninstalled SP2 and all returned to normal.

    What is the conflict with SP2 and is there a cure? I checked MS and their Knowledge base but found nothing. Is this ati driver the problem or is it something else ??

    I'd like to install SP2 so any help would be appreciated.

    Sony VAIO VGN-S1XP Technical specifications :

    Operating System
    Microsoft® Windows® XP Professional incl. Sevice Pack 1a

    CPU Section
    Intel® Pentium® M Processor 735 Processor speed 1.70A GHz, 2 MB L2 Cache, 400 MHz FSB

    Memory
    Memory Size (MB) 512
    Memory Speed (MHz) 333
    Memory Type PC 2700 DDR SDRAM

    Graphics
    ATI MOBILITY RADEON™ 9700 with 3D performance and 64 MB VRAM

    Display
    Display Type X-black LCD
    Diagonal Size (in) 13.3
    Resolution Format 1200 x 800

    Thanks a lot
  2. thegave

    thegave -=[DHzer0point Team]=-

    Hi what drivers are you using for your video card at the moment? Have you tried uninstalling the video drivers, installing SP2 and then reinstalling the drivers on top of it?

    Have you tried modded drivers such as the Omega catalysts or the latest official drivers from ATi using the Mobility Modder?
  3. Matrixdz2002

    Matrixdz2002 New Member

    thanks for your reply,

    I'm using the original Driver with XP SP1 since I tried Radeon Omega Drivers 2.6.25a (Catalyst 5.4) and on XP SP2 but it didn't work I always get error related to ati2dvag.

    Any solutions ? :(
  4. Matrixdz2002

    Matrixdz2002 New Member

    Hoooooooooooooooraaaaaaaaaaaa !!!!



    I found the solution after several hours of research.

    Anyhow, no more wait, give this a shot :

    Right click-mouse over My Computer
    Properties
    Hardware(Tab)
    Device Manager(button)
    Click [+] next to System devices
    right-mouse on CPU to AGP Controller (or whatever your controller is called, mine was Intel(R) 82855 AGP)
    Update Driver(button)

    Select Install from a list or specific location (Advanced)
    Next(button)
    Select Don't search. I will choose the driver to install.
    Next(button)
    Select PCI standard PCI-to-PCI bridge
    Next(button)
    Finish(button)
    Reboot.

    Please let me know how this works for you.
    Good luck.
  5. samlight

    samlight New Member

    Hi there,
    I was totally stumped until I read your solution... same laptop, same problem.
    So I do as you say, and sure enough I can boot back in, however, it seems to only work sometimes... sometimes it makes it to log in, sometimes not, sometimes it will last half an hour and then freeze for a few secs and then say the ati2dvag driver has stopped working. The screen jumps to 4bit 640x480 and either shortly thereafter bluescreens or I get out.

    There has to be something else other than just the AGP-PCI bridge going on here... has yours been fine since?
  6. redsolar

    redsolar Off duty

    You must reinstall the driver fresh after you install SP2. Since the driver is not signed, SP2 overwrites it with an older version of driver, which is incompatible with many other things Omega drivers include.
  7. nascotdan

    nascotdan New Member

    Thank Heaven

    Matrixdz2002 & Redsolar -

    Well done for posting this!! I've just spend 2 weeks trying to resolve this problem on my (now out of warranty Sony S1-XP laptop, until I finally stumbled upon this thread.

    Neither Sony, ATI or Microsoft sites were able to help.

    The only other thing to note, for anyone else who comes across this problem, is that when the SP2 update is complete, but prior to rebooting the machine make sure you go in to the system devices within control panel and reset the CPU to AGP controller back to PCI Standard PCI to PCI bridge. I noticed that SP2 set's it back to Intel(R) 82855 AGP, and then re-apply the original drivers.

    When I rebooted having done that I had no problem whatsoever..

    I also rang Sony back and told them about problem for those people.

    Thanks

    Nascotdan
  8. lolly

    lolly New Member

    Thanks for the info..

    i have just experienced the same problem (random bluescreens with video adapter stoped working msg) with a Vaio S360 which has been running XP Sp2 perfectly fine for ~2 years until last night.

    After reading around i came across this thread and changing the driver seems to have fixed the problem for now (my machine has been running fine for a couple of hours). What i am still wondering though is what exactly causes this issue to surface (as i havent done anything major to the laptop for the past couple of days), and also what exactly the problem is.

    One note from me is that i was able to get my computer to start up under safe mode and, at least for as long as i ran it, it did not crash.
  9. MrSpock2002

    MrSpock2002 Because I said so!

    Sony blows when it comes to computers. I love their tv's and dvd players. But when it comes to computers they blow monkey balls. I used to own a Vaio desktop, had nothing but problems. That was 6 years ago. I used it for target practice with my shot gun, and built a custom pc, sold that, now I use an HP laptop. When it comes to Laptops, I'll never use anything but HP.
  10. Dyre Straits

    Dyre Straits 9 Count 'em, 9 Grandkids!

    I can't even begin to say for sure in your case or these mentioned here. BUT, if any one of you has Windows Updates set to Install Automatically, I suggest you turn that option off and set it to Download and PROMPT you before installing.

    The reason I say this is that I've had problems on a few systems re: Audio Device Drivers where Microsoft's Updates has mistakenly identified my Audio Devices as being C-Media. Instead, I had RealTek Audio and the Microsoft Updates completely skewed my sound.

    If the Updates can do that with my Audio, I'm sure it can do the same thing with any other device in the system if it mistakes one for another.

    Since my experience with this, I simply won't ever again let the Updates install automatically.

    So, this is just a heads up as it may or may not be the source of the problems specifically mentioned here.
  11. Oppie77

    Oppie77 New Member

    scrolling problems

    I also have the vgn-s1xp vaio.
    I followed all the instructions and the bluescreen issues etc seem to be solved.
    I'm using the newest omega driver cause the original sony driver won't work.
    No the only problem I'm left with is that I have funny scrolling as in the screen refreshing with every step.

    Incredibly irritating whilst on the internet etc.

    Can anyone help me?

    Thanks
  12. dmp

    dmp New Member

    same scrolling problem

    I also have a sony S1XP laptop: To fix the blue screen problems mentioned above, I have completely uninstalled all ati software/drivers and have instead installed the omega drivers. I have also followed the instructions above:

    "Right click-mouse over My Computer
    Properties
    Hardware(Tab)
    Device Manager(button)
    Click [+] next to System devices
    right-mouse on CPU to AGP Controller (or whatever your controller is called, mine was Intel(R) 82855 AGP)
    Update Driver(button)

    Select Install from a list or specific location (Advanced)
    Next(button)
    Select Don't search. I will choose the driver to install.
    Next(button)
    Select PCI standard PCI-to-PCI bridge
    Next(button)
    Finish(button)
    Reboot."

    (thanks for this, you rule!)

    This has completely resolved the "blue screen" issues reported by myself and others, but the installed driver seems quite poor. In particular, as someone else mentioned, the scrolling is rather jerky (this is the same problem someone else had, right?). Is there some display setting that I am missing? I think am rather close to resolving this issue but would really like to be able to have a properly working display driver.

    Thanks for your help in advance! Loads of people seem to be having these problems (club vaio forums are full of this problem!) but it seems that sony and ati don't really care enough to provide a properly working driver!
    Last edited: Feb 4, 2007
  13. dmp

    dmp New Member

    temporary fix

    oppie77, i've found a less than perfect fix for our problem. do the following:

    go to control panel->display->settings (tab)->advanced->troubleshoot (tab).

    set the hardware acceleration tab all the way down to min. This makes browsing the internet for a proper solution to our problem much more manageable ;-).

    If anyone has a better idea I would love to hear it!!!?
  14. TotallyBushed

    TotallyBushed New Member

    I have found a solution....

    I also developed a spontaneous video driver problem... started with sluggish performance originating in atidvag2.dll manifested as spikes of cpu cycles, screen freezes then blue screening to THAT file.

    I reinstalled the latest omega drivers (after rebooting in safe mode, driver clean pro'ed, rebooted etc. etc.) to no avail.

    Then I changed the AGP driver to PCItoPCI standard bridge and volia! Stability but rubbish perfomance. Internet surfing would instantly reboot the video card and I would face that ribboning, jerky scrolling motion whilst surfing....

    Then I stumbled on a solution:

    Check "enable write combining" on the ATI/Omega "Advanced" "Troubleshooting" section of the video driver panel. This is accessed by the "Display" icon in Control Panel. And there you go... reboot and you have regained stability and performance. Beautiful.

    Hope you read this... :hmm:
  15. Flawd

    Flawd New Member

    Hello! I know this thread is very old, but it helped me get to my solution, so I thought I would share it as others have.

    I recently reinstalled Windows on a Sony Vaio VGN-S170 with the Mobility 9700 and got the same driver error as everyone else. I tried the PCI to PCI bridge fix, and it only worked for a couple days. The driver didn't revert or anything but it was still blue screening.

    I reinstalled Windows again, and this time the PCI to PCI trick didn't work, so I tried the "Enable write combining" trick but mine was already checked. It didn't work, checked or not.

    Then I went to Omega Drivers and got the newest current version (Radeon Omega Drivers 4.8.442 (Catalyst 7.12)). Those didn't work either.

    NEXT! I got the Mobility Modder! (Very cool program by the way, thanks to the author(s)) And I modded the Omega Drivers, installed, and currently it's working.

    So, right now, I have the PCI to PCI trick in place, Write Combining disabled, and modded Omega Drivers.

    If it fails (like last time) I'll edit this so everyone knows.

    Thanks for the help and ideas!


    Edit: While installing drivers, the screen went black. Now it won't post. POS Sony!


    Edit2: Well now it's bricked. Board is bad. These sony boards are horrible.
    Last edited: Mar 13, 2008
  16. Wai

    Wai New Member

    [FINAL EDIT: IT IS A HARDWARE PROBLEM: SEE BOTTOM]
    [EDIT: Transient solution] to the Sony VAIO Mobility Radeon 9700 ATI2DVAG / blue screen problem...[EDIT: i.e. Still UNSUCCESSFUL, sorry folks]

    Hello, I had this problem for a few months like you guys. I have a Sony VAIO S2XP (running XP SP2) for more than 4 years without any graphics problem. Suddenly it started to play up first as second CD drive not recognised and later the display driver screwed up and I've got this ATI2DVAG problem as well as blue screen. Reinstallation of the original ATI driver that is downloadable from Sony site didn't help. It was an ancient driver and I must say although I take pride in Sony products, their customer support sucks. No updates.

    So I googled and found several solutions including those listed up there in this thread. I am not satisfied with the PCI to PCI bridge "solution" because it caused sub-optimal performance, not to say the turning off of hardware acceleration. So I tried Omega drivers. This is a great product and the installation experience was great. However it's performance was not the best neither. After I installed it, my screen saver, which uses hardware 3D acceleration did not work. It was also noted by others that with this driver, performance was seriously compromised.

    Finally I tried Mobility Modder + latest Catalyst. I don't know whether it helped or not but I first did a thorough ATI drivers clean up (TweakXP.com - How to uninstall Radeon drivers in Windows XP). Since I had a Sony which is not supported by ATI, I have to download the Catalyst from this website (driverheaven). I simply followed the instructions described in the modder webpage. But note I am using modder on ATI Catalyst not like the previous poster using modder on Omega drivers. I got one of these "RegPermWriter.exe" problem during installing the ATI catalyst driver but if one just ignores this the installation can go to completion. The only other thing to note is after the modding, at the beginning of installing the ATI display driver, it took ages for anything to appear. The task manager showed that the installation programme is running with no signs of lock up or so, but nothing happened like for 30 minutes, but be patient and believe me it is working. I was impatient and stopped the installation program a few times, uninstalled everything and reinstalled and it cost me a whole day. Eventually I waited and the installation completed and asked for reboot. After that, everything seemed to work like a charm.

    Just share with every one so they know a solution exists, unlike what was claimed elsewhere on the web. Three cheers to the modder folks.

    EDIT (26/3/2008): I laughed too soon and offered too much hope in the above message. After a few hours of perfect performance, I tried to play a DVD and it didn't play. Device manager showed that second IDE channle is inactivated (with a red cross over it) so I tried to activate it and then everything screwed up again. Got blue screen all the time. In my case this is certainly related to video playing on the DVD drive.

    So I spent a whole day fixing it, first I tried to just uninstall the ATI display driver in Add/Remove software in control panels... and left the CCC, it did not work. Then I uninstalled everything, used driver cleaner pro v.1.5 (freely downloadable on somewhere in the web), then reinstalled everything. After reboot it works for a short while. Once I clicked on the "video" options on the CCC, the computer stalled, reported a GPU reset and asked to restart the computer. After reboot, the graphics works OK to the 1280X800 resolution but I lost 3D hardware acceleration. Using DXDIAG I found that Direct3D is disabled. Now everything seems fine except there is no hardware 3D, any idea how to fix this? Occasionally I still get a blue screen but the system usually can get back after reboot. The annoying ATI2DVAG problem is totally gone. Sorry folks.

    [Final note]
    I am editing this so that my painful experience may end up saving somebody else's time. This problem atarted occuring to me since January 2008, now, 8 months later, after I have exhausted every method excepting reinstalling windows (newest drivers, customerised drivers, putting cooling materials on CPU & graphics chip) I found on the internet, I have to admit defeat: IT IS A HARDWARE PROBLEM. Some people thought/claim they found the solution by turning off hardware acceleration or using PCI other than AGP; that is not a real solution. That is like running 10 mph with a BMW, well it still runs... The most compelling tale-telling evidence that this is a hardware problem was this: mine is a dual boot sustem (windows XP & Linux). The graphics card failed on both OS at the same time. Eventually I took it to a local laptop repair shop in Hong Kong, it spent 3 days and got it fixed for me. Now it is back to normal, with 3D hardware acceleration. I spent about US$200 which is not cheap, but much cheaper if it was repaired by Sony. They told me that they replaced the graphics component (what exactly they didn't tell me) and some ROM. Another symptom of this problem was one does not have any video RAM reported in DXDIAG although it should have 64MB; now this has got fixed too. The repair people tested the notebook in Win XP and it was fine. I then tested it in Linux and it was also good.
    Last edited: Sep 3, 2008
  17. Gingerthreads

    Gingerthreads New Member

    Thanks to everyone here who posted about this ATI drivers problem. You helped me find my solution.

    I have a Sony laptop PCG-Z1VA. After several years of working fine, it started having problems with the ATI driver ATI2DVAG.dll. I would get the "Thread Stuck in Infinite Loop Error" consistently, followed by freeze-ups and the BSOD. I scoured the net for about a month and tried lots of fixes suggested to no avail.

    Here's what finally worked for me: I went to the Omega Drivers website and downloaded the Radeon Omega Driver 3.8.252. I installed that, and my computer's been running better than new for 3 days now! It's weird, but at first when I installed it, I was afraid it wouldn't work, as my screen flashed a few times, but now it's just perfect! Be sure to uninstall your old ATI drivers first, though, using the add/remove programs. Also, verify they are removed by going into Control Panel--System--Hardware--Device Manager--Display Adapters and making sure it's gone there, too.

    Hope maybe this post can help someone else, as I am very grateful for all the help I found here when I was searching.
  18. Gingerthreads

    Gingerthreads New Member

    Re: Ati Mobility Radeon Problem with Sony VAIO--Omega Drivers Work!

    Thanks to everyone here who posted about this ATI drivers problem. You helped me find my solution.

    I have a Sony laptop PCG-Z1VA. After several years of working fine, it started having problems with the ATI driver ATI2DVAG.dll. I would get the "Thread Stuck in Infinite Loop Error" consistently, followed by freeze-ups and the BSOD. I scoured the net for about a month and tried lots of fixes suggested to no avail.

    Here's what finally worked for me: I went to the Omega Drivers website and downloaded the Radeon Omega Driver 3.8.252. I installed that, and my computer's been running better than new for 3 days now! It's weird, but at first when I installed it, I was afraid it wouldn't work, as my screen flashed a few times, but now it's just perfect! Be sure to uninstall your old ATI drivers first, though, using the add/remove programs. Also, verify they are removed by going into Control Panel--System--Hardware--Device Manager--Display Adapters and making sure it's gone there, too.

    Hope maybe this post can help someone else, as I am very grateful for all the help I found here when I was searching.
  19. stjepanovic

    stjepanovic New Member

    I have question for Alpha and Omega Lords who figured or organized this site to tame beast called MS XP/vista. Yes Linux self configures itself not OEM laptop manufacturer can meddle into this. OS X (mac) provides similar solution.

    Anyway: What should I do? I use heavily 3d Apps
    I have absymal performance with rhino 3D others work fine. Ocasionaly windows leave nasty trail. Maybe they could perform better. I am enclosing my spec at the end.

    - Omega Drivers 3.8.252? how can I install them clean since already there is ATI 6.14.0010.6458 driver plus Fujitsu's (laptop) 8.031-040624a
    - Use the modder 1.1 and the Mobility 8.1 Catalyst? what is difference between Catalyst 7.11 recomended for my mobility 9700 and Mobility Catalyst 8.1 recomnded on the ATI site? How should I perform proper install? ALso please provide me info how I should boost my performance and what other part should I update.

    Please help and thank you my lords
  20. stjepanovic

    stjepanovic New Member

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    System Information
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    Time of this report: 2/12/2009, 14:40:09
    Machine name: MODELER-2009
    Operating System: Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600) Service Pack 3 (2600.xpsp_sp3_qfe.080814-1300)
    Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
    System Manufacturer: FUJITSU
    System Model: N6010
    BIOS: PhoenixBIOS 4.0 Release 6.0
    Processor: Mobile Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.20GHz (2 CPUs)
    Memory: 2046MB RAM
    Page File: 494MB used, 3445MB available
    Windows Dir: C:\WINDOWS
    DirectX Version: DirectX 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904)
    DX Setup Parameters: Not found
    DxDiag Version: 5.03.2600.5512 32bit Unicode

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    DxDiag Notes
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    DirectX Files Tab: No problems found.
    Display Tab 1: No problems found. DirectDraw test results: All tests were successful. Direct3D 7 test results: All tests were successful. Direct3D 8 test results: All tests were successful. Direct3D 9 test results: All tests were successful.
    Sound Tab 1: No problems found.
    Music Tab: No problems found.
    Input Tab: No problems found.
    Network Tab: No problems found.

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    DirectX Debug Levels
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    Direct3D: 0/4 (n/a)
    DirectDraw: 0/4 (retail)
    DirectInput: 0/5 (n/a)
    DirectMusic: 0/5 (n/a)
    DirectPlay: 0/9 (retail)
    DirectSound: 0/5 (retail)
    DirectShow: 0/6 (retail)

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    Display Devices
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    Card name: ATI MOBILITY RADEON 9600/9700 Series
    Manufacturer: ATI Technologies Inc.
    Chip type: ATI MOBILITY RADEON 9700 AGP (0x4E50)
    DAC type: Internal DAC(400MHz)
    Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_4E50&SUBSYS_127F10CF&REV_00
    Display Memory: 128.0 MB
    Current Mode: 1440 x 900 (32 bit) (60Hz)
    Monitor: Default Monitor
    Monitor Max Res:
    Driver Name: ati2dvag.dll
    Driver Version: 6.14.0010.6458 (English)
    DDI Version: 9 (or higher)
    Driver Attributes: Final Retail
    Driver Date/Size: 6/24/2004 06:40:08, 207360 bytes
    WHQL Logo'd: Yes
    WHQL Date Stamp: n/a
    VDD: n/a
    Mini VDD: ati2mtag.sys
    Mini VDD Date: 6/24/2004 06:39:50, 747008 bytes
    Device Identifier: {D7B71EE2-0D10-11CF-456A-7532A1C2CB35}
    Vendor ID: 0x1002
    Device ID: 0x4E50
    SubSys ID: 0x127F10CF
    Revision ID: 0x0000
    Revision ID: 0x0000
    Video Accel: ModeMPEG2_C ModeMPEG2_D ModeWMV8_B ModeWMV9_A
    Deinterlace Caps: {6E8329FF-B642-418B-BCF0-BCB6591E255F}: Format(In/Out)=(YUY2,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,1) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
    {335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(YUY2,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch
    {552C0DAD-CCBC-420B-83C8-74943CF9F1A6}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,2) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
    {6E8329FF-B642-418B-BCF0-BCB6591E255F}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,1) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
    {335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch
    Registry: OK
    DDraw Status: Enabled
    D3D Status: Enabled
    AGP Status: Enabled
    DDraw Test Result: All tests were successful.
    D3D7 Test Result: All tests were successful.
    D3D8 Test Result: All tests were successful.
    D3D9 Test Result: All tests were successful.

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