Standardied Tweak Windows?

CraziFuzzy · Jul 28, 2006, 09:09 AM

I have just finished the hardware end of building my pseudo studio system, and am focusing now on the software. Everything is working great, but I'm just not getting the DSP Setup in a way that really satisfies me. I am using a dual monitor setup, and plan on having some DSP windows up permanantly on the second screen, with Sonic running on the main screen. My system is set up using 8 mono inputs, from an 8 Channel Mic Pre-Amp unit, into my Audigy. I would like to be able to setup some volume controls and peak meters on the screen in a nice fancy layout. Unfortunately, the Peak Meters are huge, and only Stereo, and the Vol slider is, well, not pretty, and horizontal.

I guess what I'm looking for is some simple controls I can put on the screen, that are either resizable, or all themed in the same way so that they can be layed out to appear as a single, customizable panel. I would gladly help in the making of these in any way I can, but unfortunately, I have Visual Studio .Net 2005, which I'm pretty sure can't be used for developing the plugins. The Plugins I'm looking for here would be:

Mono Peak
Stereo Peak
Mono Volume
Stereo Volume
Mono Gain
Stereo Gain
Pan Control

I know there are a lot of Mixer's and such out there, but they are all great, but they are all styled differently, and made to drastically different scales. It seems the custimizability of kX is such that you should be able to build just about anything, with the basic building blocks.

Maddogg6 · Jul 28, 2006, 09:27 AM

Look here....

http://www.hardwareheaven.com/effects-dsp/71010-visual-c-compatibilty-info.html

But yes - with the right tools and knowledge anything is pretty much possible (providing the DSP has enough resources, and well, laws of physics arent broken)

edit:

And you can make the meters vertical of horz (righ click on its 'tweak' gui) ... in case ya didnt see that...

The KX website - as well as these forums have much info about making your own plug-ins - if you understand C++ you have little problem understanding the GUI part (or so I hear - Im programming illiterate) - then its a matter of knowing DSP microcode - which looks is much like assembler.

Now - if you want to make plugins with ALL the same horz slider - you can do that with KX alone - as ALL sliders/faders are horz and sized by default. - GUI window sizes would be also if same number of sliders exist - it does give some sort of consistancy to a fully loaded DSP screen of opened GUIS..

CraziFuzzy · Jul 28, 2006, 10:16 AM

I was thinking of something like this. I just drew these in pbrush, so please, be gentle, but all the pieces would be individual plugins (these are the tweak windows) They are all Borderless, and all sized on multiples of 32 pixels. This way they can be positioned on the screen such that they appear to be a whole panel. You could then draw any border you want and make it the desktop background.

Example: http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/1350/examplewh6.png

**dj_stick** · Jul 28, 2006, 11:51 AM

hmm that would require coding a new method of dealing with the DSP… aswell as the individual modules, and how they interact with each other

CraziFuzzy · Jul 28, 2006, 07:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dj_stick

hmm that would require coding a new method of dealing with the DSP… aswell as the individual modules, and how they interact with each other

Would it? I can build this DSP graph now by using Gain, Peak, and Pan controls (and some stereo mixers in the background), the only thing that is different is the appearance of the Tweak windows.

Something that came up when I was building this though, is a lack of an audio switch control. It wold be nice to be able to have an 8 channel A/B switch. I could put it on the input of the peak meters, that way I can switch the peak meters from either looking at the post fade, for mixer, or pre-fade for adjusting my pre-amp. Basically, it could work like the crossfade, but just be 1, or 0.

ROBSCIX · Aug 6, 2006, 11:45 PM

Have you seen MAX M's UFX pack? they look pretty slick if your gonna have them open all the time...just a thought.

Jul 28, 2006, 09:09 AM	#1
CraziFuzzy DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 28 Rep Power: 0	Standardised Tweak Windows? I have just finished the hardware end of building my pseudo studio system, and am focusing now on the software. Everything is working great, but I'm just not getting the DSP Setup in a way that really satisfies me. I am using a dual monitor setup, and plan on having some DSP windows up permanantly on the second screen, with Sonic running on the main screen. My system is set up using 8 mono inputs, from an 8 Channel Mic Pre-Amp unit, into my Audigy. I would like to be able to setup some volume controls and peak meters on the screen in a nice fancy layout. Unfortunately, the Peak Meters are huge, and only Stereo, and the Vol slider is, well, not pretty, and horizontal. I guess what I'm looking for is some simple controls I can put on the screen, that are either resizable, or all themed in the same way so that they can be layed out to appear as a single, customizable panel. I would gladly help in the making of these in any way I can, but unfortunately, I have Visual Studio .Net 2005, which I'm pretty sure can't be used for developing the plugins. The Plugins I'm looking for here would be: Mono Peak Stereo Peak Mono Volume Stereo Volume Mono Gain Stereo Gain Pan Control I know there are a lot of Mixer's and such out there, but they are all great, but they are all styled differently, and made to drastically different scales. It seems the custimizability of kX is such that you should be able to build just about anything, with the basic building blocks. Last edited by CraziFuzzy; Jul 28, 2006 at 11:44 PM.

Jul 28, 2006, 09:27 AM	#2
Maddogg6 Tail Razer Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Bernyurass, AZ - USA Posts: 4,027 Rep Power: 0	Look here.... http://www.hardwareheaven.com/effects-dsp/71010-visual-c-compatibilty-info.html But yes - with the right tools and knowledge anything is pretty much possible (providing the DSP has enough resources, and well, laws of physics arent broken) edit: And you can make the meters vertical of horz (righ click on its 'tweak' gui) ... in case ya didnt see that... The KX website - as well as these forums have much info about making your own plug-ins - if you understand C++ you have little problem understanding the GUI part (or so I hear - Im programming illiterate) - then its a matter of knowing DSP microcode - which looks is much like assembler. Now - if you want to make plugins with ALL the same horz slider - you can do that with KX alone - as ALL sliders/faders are horz and sized by default. - GUI window sizes would be also if same number of sliders exist - it does give some sort of consistancy to a fully loaded DSP screen of opened GUIS.. Last edited by Maddogg6; Jul 28, 2006 at 09:36 AM.

Jul 28, 2006, 10:16 AM	Thread Starter #3
CraziFuzzy DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 28 Rep Power: 0	I was thinking of something like this. I just drew these in pbrush, so please, be gentle, but all the pieces would be individual plugins (these are the tweak windows) They are all Borderless, and all sized on multiples of 32 pixels. This way they can be positioned on the screen such that they appear to be a whole panel. You could then draw any border you want and make it the desktop background. Example: http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/1350/examplewh6.png

Aug 6, 2006, 11:45 PM	#6
ROBSCIX DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 1,732 Rep Power: 0	Have you seen MAX M's UFX pack? they look pretty slick if your gonna have them open all the time...just a thought.