synthesizer kx modular system 1

stylus02 · Jan 17, 2008, 11:50 AM

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24.03.2012 version 3.0 (3550) released

hi guys,

version 3.0 is ready!
new design, more functionality, bug fixes & compatibility for latest driver versions 3550 / 3551

new features:

- mostly design finish
- kxm 120/ 230: digital displays with scrolling
- kxm 210: tuning leds
- kxm 340: input/ output leds (treshhold -60db)
. kxm 700: waveform leds
- include 15 presets
- 3550/ 51 compatible
- windows installer/ deinstaller

download:
https://sites.google.com/site/kxmodu...545b_setup.zip
https://sites.google.com/site/kxmodu...3550_setup.zip
screenshot:
https://sites.google.com/site/kxmodu...t_kxm_v3.0.bmp

homepage:
https://sites.google.com/site/kxmodular
http://kxm.dyndns.org (url- forwarded)
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**dj_stick** · Jan 17, 2008, 12:57 PM

that's pretty sweet
i remember suggesting something like this a few years back, but have no idea how to code

stylus02 · Jan 17, 2008, 02:13 PM

yes, it has a little complexity.

stylus02 · Jan 17, 2008, 03:18 PM

module list

kxm 100 - 3 octaves keyboard unit (midi support)
kxm 150 - universal divider (usefull as octave divider)
kxm 160 - universal 4x multiplier (usefull as octave multiplier)
kxm 200 - multi vco saw, spaced saw, triangle, square, pulsewidthed square (aliasing)
kxm 210 - multi vco saw, supersquare, triangle (aliasingfree!)
kxm 220 - white & pink noise
kxm 300 - 4 channel mixer module
kxm 310 - 8 channel mixer module
kxm 320 - 6 channel mixer module
kxm 330 - 2 channel mixer module
kxm 400 - adsr envelope
kxm 500 - MOOG Lowpass -24 db/oct
kxm 510 - state variable filter -12 db/oct
kxm 520 - double MOOG lowpass -48 db/oct
kxm 550 - -6db/oct lowpass filter
kxm 560 - -6db/oct highpass filter
kxm 600 - standard vca
kxm 700 - multi lfo saw, spaced saw, triangle, square, pulsewidthed square
kxm 800 - resampler 1-24 khz
kxm 810 - waveshaper logaritmic, exponential, cut
kxm 820 - ring modulator
kxm 830 - bit crusher 8..1 bit
kxm 900 - unisono module
kxm 910 - phaser module

stylus02 · Jan 18, 2008, 09:50 PM

hi all,

i made a little demo sequence with the kx modular. all you hear is kx- powered (synth, samples, effects, dynamics) except the sequencer work. it came dry out from reason 3.0 through 6 asio channels.

http://freenet-homepage.de/stylish-s...arp_pre_02.mp3
http://freenet-homepage.de/stylish-s...ason_setup.jpg
http://freenet-homepage.de/stylish-s..._dsp_setup.jpg

sounds/samples: kx modular system 1 (prerelease version)
effects: efx-reverbstation, space'80, microchorus, microdelay[x]
dynamics: 10 band eq, dynamic processor

stylus

Russ · Jan 20, 2008, 01:17 AM

Sounds good

stylus02 · Jan 20, 2008, 04:08 PM

another fine tune made today with kx modular

http://freenet-homepage.de/stylish-s...ox4_pre_01.mp3

sorry my upload limit is 1.5 mb

stylus02 · Jan 20, 2008, 07:35 PM

thanks russ. welcome back in the 70's.

Max M. · Jan 20, 2008, 08:32 PM

Yeah, to me these demos sound pretty cool too.

stylus02 · Jan 20, 2008, 09:46 PM

"the beginning is the sound. and sound comes from the audigy."

but we should not forget that "reason" as "sampleplayer" makes the groove. so we use best from both worlds.

ps: next time i try max's ufx reverb

Russ · Jan 21, 2008, 09:51 PM

I have been having fun playing around with these plugins (using MIDI-YOKE/MIDI-OX for automation), but they use quite a bit of resources on my 10k1 card. For this reason I made myself a plugin to replace the kvm-100. It seems to work good, and it uses less resources and handles more notes, so I thought I would post the code in case you want to check it out, etc:

Code:

output cv, gate_;
control note=0x30600000, gate=0x0;
temp t

macs      cv,  0x0,  note,  0x80;
macs      gate_,  0x1,  cv,  0xaaaaaab;       
macints t, 0x0, gate_, 0xc;
macints t, t, cv, 0xffffffff;
macints t, 0xc, t, 0xffffffff;
     
macs cv, 0.62976, 0, 0;     
skip      ccr,  ccr,  0x7fffffff,  t; 
macs      cv,  0x0,  cv,  0x78d0df9c;
macs      cv,  0x0,  cv,  0x78d0df9c;
macs      cv,  0x0,  cv,  0x78d0df9c;
macs      cv,  0x0,  cv,  0x78d0df9c;
macs      cv,  0x0,  cv,  0x78d0df9c;
macs      cv,  0x0,  cv,  0x78d0df9c;
macs      cv,  0x0,  cv,  0x78d0df9c;
macs      cv,  0x0,  cv,  0x78d0df9c;
macs      cv,  0x0,  cv,  0x78d0df9c;
macs      cv,  0x0,  cv,  0x78d0df9c;
macs      cv,  0x0,  cv,  0x78d0df9c;
macs      cv,  0x0,  cv,  0x78d0df9c;            
    
skip ccr, ccr, 0x7fffffff, gate_;
macs cv, 0, cv, 0x40000000;
macs cv, 0, cv, 0x40000000;
macs cv, 0, cv, 0x40000000;
macs cv, 0, cv, 0x40000000;
macs cv, 0, cv, 0x40000000;
macs cv, 0, cv, 0x40000000;
macs cv, 0, cv, 0x40000000;
macs cv, 0, cv, 0x40000000;
macs cv, 0, cv, 0x40000000;
macs cv, 0, cv, 0x40000000;
macs cv, 0, cv, 0x40000000;
macints cv, 0, cv, 0x2            
     
tstneg      gate_,  gate,  0x7fffffff,  0x53e2;

-Russ

stylus02 · Jan 22, 2008, 08:50 AM

a solution without a lookup table. the kbu calculates the exponential cv on the fly - very cool. i tried it out and it works excellent over the full note range. can you explain what you have done exactly? (before i do reverse engieering)

stylus

ps: this kbu could be called "kxm 101" or anything else and could be part of the final release of the synth with your copyright's, if you want. ( the range kxm 100-199 was planned for keyboard related stuff) in each case i want to set a link to this.

Russ · Jan 22, 2008, 12:08 PM

It calculates the note (0-11) and octave (1-11), and then uses the following formula to calculate the frequency (your exp values are related to each other in same way as the original frequencies):

freq = start_freq * 2^(-1/12)^(number of half steps from start_freq)

2^(-1/12) = 0.94387431268169349664191315666753

Raising a number to a power(x) is just multiplying that number by itself (x) number of times, so we can just multiply by 2^(-1/12) for each half step we need.

Then for each octave (x) we need to go down, we just multiply the value by 0.5, (x) number of times.

The calculations use C9 as the starting freq, but it's value is greater than one, so instead I use C8 (0.62976) and multiply by 2 at the end.

The calculations at the top just calculate the note (0-11) and octave (1-11), and then offsets the values, such that it tells us how many multiplies to skip.

note = (slider value * 0x80)
skips for octave calc = 0x1 + (note / 12)
skips for freq calc = 0xC - (((skips for octave calc) * 12) - note)

(hex values (above) represent fractional values)

Does that make sense to you?

Feel free to use the code however you want...

stylus02 · Jan 22, 2008, 12:25 PM

simple, but great idea. actually i'm doing some optimizations in dane and c++ to save gpr's.

copyrights are important to me. every idea should be protected. it does not play rolls if we work on open source or commercially projects.

Russ · Jan 22, 2008, 12:47 PM

If a GPR is overwritten anyway, then it is free to be used for temp storage before that point (and output GPR's can be used more then once in your code (just not inputs)), so take advantage of that fact to save GPR's (i.e. 'cv' and 'gate_' in the above code are used for temp storage in the calculations at the top of the code).

i.e.
kvm300
'a' is not needed at all, as 'out' can be used instead.

stylus02 · Jan 22, 2008, 02:03 PM

for the time being i've made a link to the kbu in the top entry.

Lex Nahumury · Apr 19, 2008, 01:13 PM

(Bump)
How is your synth project coming?
Any luck on the midiport we talked about?

/Lex

stylus02 · Apr 19, 2008, 01:59 PM

the final release comes the next days. many things are improved, some new modules included. no midi api in c++ at the moment. had no really time to work on the project.

regards stylus

stylus02 · Apr 24, 2008, 02:14 PM

kxm has reached final release v1.1. just register all plugins, start "trafo", load "kxm_v11.trf" into it, choose midi connections, load synth preset and play!

(remember the korg poly 800, moog minimoog, oberheim 4voice or yamaha dx7)

http://freenet-homepage.de/stylish-s...final_v1.1.zip

http://freenet-homepage.de/stylish-s...nce_pre_01.mp3

have fun!

last minute: - preset "kxm saw pad" & presets for vco to play minor or major
(very cool polyphonic simulation)

v1.1, 23.04.2008

- final release version
- now 28 modules
- new aliasingfree vco "kxm 210" replaces the old one (based on "kxm 200" with saw, triangle, square, pulswidthed square)
- new full range keyboard unit "kxm 110", thanks russ
- new "kxm 170" 16x multiplier (use as octave multiplier to generate higher frequencies for ringmodulation (fm - modulation))
- new "kxm 180" single dc value
- new "kxm 190" inverter
- new "trafo" preset "kxm_v11" to use with "kxm 110"
- some presets of classic synths with basic automation for nordlead 1 midi controllers
- no more velocity control inputs in vcf's, vca's
- no more spaced saw in vco's
- no more supersquare (maybe later again)
- 2 lfo inputs in vco, vcf's, vca for liquid modulation
- added 16x gain slider in ringmodulator "kxm 820"
- envelope adjustments in "kx 400"
- base frequency adjustments in vco's (2 octaves lower), smaller finetune range
- lfo control adjustments in vcf, vca
- lfo offset slider +/- 0.5
- spike filter on all vca control inputs
- new guid in "kxm 520" (was the same as "kxm 500")
- freeware "trafo 0.8" is bundled, please visit "http://members.nextra.at/hubwin//midi.html"
- some code optimizations

kx it!

stylus02 · Apr 26, 2008, 10:25 AM

what kx modular could do in future (what the dsp is able to do)

-better midi timing
-morph mixer (vector-, wavetable like simulation)
-minimal vco, vcf, vca, envelopes: a (fade in), ad, ar (percussion), ads (minimoog), lfo
-portamento
-polyphonic (up to 8-16 voices in dependence of complexity)
-lfo retrigger
-spring reverb
-single gate (midi) for drums
-step sequencer
-arpeggiator
-fm osc. (sin)
-envelope follower
-noise manipulator (granular simulation)
-gate retrigger (claps)
-simple operators (control voltage & audio): adder, multiplier, rectifier..
-sample rom based synthesis in combination with soundfonts (could imagine a sequential prophet vs or ppg wave synth emulation!)

as you can see, emu has implemented all functions to build synthesizers on that dsp. i allways asked me, why this never was done with exception of kx users (lemury and me). perhaps the dsp power of 100/200 mips was to low in contrast to bigger ones from motorola, texas instruments.. which have 10-20 times more power today. nevertheless for the time, when the dsp was released around year 2000, it had enough capacities to establish on the digital synthesizer market.

Russ · Apr 26, 2008, 02:41 PM

It is good to see that you are still working on it

I have not had a chance to check out the updates yet, but it all sounds good.

...and the demo song has some nice sounds in it.

-Russ

stylus02 · Apr 26, 2008, 11:21 PM

russ, i still see much potential in the dsp and kx/dane. but nobody makes money with kx, so it takes time

next logical step, after improve the basics, is to improve the timing. i'm very impressed of lemury´s fast midi response in his a-synth/ drumsynth demos.

stylus

**Eugene Gavrilov** · May 22, 2008, 03:46 PM

I'm glad to see this project is evolving : )
Good work, thank you!

E.

stylus02 · May 22, 2008, 03:53 PM

i have to thank you eugene. your sdk and max's dane make it possible.

stylus

stylus02 · May 23, 2008, 11:58 AM

important update. new fast keyboard unit "kxm120". see top entry.

stylus

Russ · May 23, 2008, 12:10 PM

BTW: You shouldn't save hardware settings, etc in your kX Settings files that you share with other people (you should probably just save with the default options [COLOR=Gray](when saving from DSP)[/COLOR] + automation).

stylus02 · May 23, 2008, 01:36 PM

you mean the dsp structures *.kx? i allways checked all boxes while saving.
i did'nt know for what all this stuff is for. am i right when i save with following settings?

- dsp
- version ind.
- card ind.
- automation

Russ · May 23, 2008, 01:45 PM

Yes, that would be much better. Some hardware settings are not compatible between different card models, and can cause problems (plus there is no need to have people use your SF, mixer, buffer, etc settings).

BTW: Automation is only needed if your are using automation in that particular DSP config (of course).

stylus02 · May 23, 2008, 01:50 PM

ok i will update the *.zip's.
..
updated version 1.1

Russ · May 23, 2008, 02:30 PM

Oops, did you recompile the 3541 version of kxm120? The GUI is not working (crashes kX Mixer). I think that maybe you forgot to compile it using the release build config.

Jan 17, 2008, 11:50 AM	#1
stylus02 HardwareHeaven Addict Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: germany, sb0090 Posts: 259 Rep Power: 0	synthesizer kx modular system 1 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 24.03.2012 version 3.0 (3550) released hi guys, version 3.0 is ready! new design, more functionality, bug fixes & compatibility for latest driver versions 3550 / 3551 new features: - mostly design finish - kxm 120/ 230: digital displays with scrolling - kxm 210: tuning leds - kxm 340: input/ output leds (treshhold -60db) . kxm 700: waveform leds - include 15 presets - 3550/ 51 compatible - windows installer/ deinstaller download: https://sites.google.com/site/kxmodu...545b_setup.zip https://sites.google.com/site/kxmodu...3550_setup.zip screenshot: https://sites.google.com/site/kxmodu...t_kxm_v3.0.bmp homepage: https://sites.google.com/site/kxmodular http://kxm.dyndns.org (url- forwarded) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Last edited by stylus02; Mar 27, 2012 at 04:10 PM. Reason: adding..

Jan 17, 2008, 03:18 PM	Thread Starter #4
stylus02 HardwareHeaven Addict Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: germany, sb0090 Posts: 259 Rep Power: 0	module list kxm 100 - 3 octaves keyboard unit (midi support) kxm 150 - universal divider (usefull as octave divider) kxm 160 - universal 4x multiplier (usefull as octave multiplier) kxm 200 - multi vco saw, spaced saw, triangle, square, pulsewidthed square (aliasing) kxm 210 - multi vco saw, supersquare, triangle (aliasingfree!) kxm 220 - white & pink noise kxm 300 - 4 channel mixer module kxm 310 - 8 channel mixer module kxm 320 - 6 channel mixer module kxm 330 - 2 channel mixer module kxm 400 - adsr envelope kxm 500 - MOOG Lowpass -24 db/oct kxm 510 - state variable filter -12 db/oct kxm 520 - double MOOG lowpass -48 db/oct kxm 550 - -6db/oct lowpass filter kxm 560 - -6db/oct highpass filter kxm 600 - standard vca kxm 700 - multi lfo saw, spaced saw, triangle, square, pulsewidthed square kxm 800 - resampler 1-24 khz kxm 810 - waveshaper logaritmic, exponential, cut kxm 820 - ring modulator kxm 830 - bit crusher 8..1 bit kxm 900 - unisono module kxm 910 - phaser module Last edited by stylus02; Jan 17, 2008 at 03:20 PM. Reason: speak & spell

Jan 18, 2008, 09:50 PM	Thread Starter #5
stylus02 HardwareHeaven Addict Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: germany, sb0090 Posts: 259 Rep Power: 0	hi all, i made a little demo sequence with the kx modular. all you hear is kx- powered (synth, samples, effects, dynamics) except the sequencer work. it came dry out from reason 3.0 through 6 asio channels. http://freenet-homepage.de/stylish-s...arp_pre_02.mp3 http://freenet-homepage.de/stylish-s...ason_setup.jpg http://freenet-homepage.de/stylish-s..._dsp_setup.jpg sounds/samples: kx modular system 1 (prerelease version) effects: efx-reverbstation, space'80, microchorus, microdelay[x] dynamics: 10 band eq, dynamic processor stylus Last edited by stylus02; Jan 19, 2008 at 10:09 AM.

Jan 20, 2008, 09:46 PM	Thread Starter #10
stylus02 HardwareHeaven Addict Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: germany, sb0090 Posts: 259 Rep Power: 0	"the beginning is the sound. and sound comes from the audigy." but we should not forget that "reason" as "sampleplayer" makes the groove. so we use best from both worlds. ps: next time i try max's ufx reverb Last edited by stylus02; Jan 20, 2008 at 10:43 PM. Reason: koeppi

Jan 22, 2008, 08:50 AM	Thread Starter #12
stylus02 HardwareHeaven Addict Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: germany, sb0090 Posts: 259 Rep Power: 0	a solution without a lookup table. the kbu calculates the exponential cv on the fly - very cool. i tried it out and it works excellent over the full note range. can you explain what you have done exactly? (before i do reverse engieering) stylus ps: this kbu could be called "kxm 101" or anything else and could be part of the final release of the synth with your copyright's, if you want. ( the range kxm 100-199 was planned for keyboard related stuff) in each case i want to set a link to this. Last edited by stylus02; Jan 22, 2008 at 12:04 PM.

Jan 17, 2008, 02:13 PM	Thread Starter #3
stylus02 HardwareHeaven Addict Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: germany, sb0090 Posts: 259 Rep Power: 0	yes, it has a little complexity.

Jan 20, 2008, 01:17 AM	#6
Russ HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 5,563 Rep Power: 62	Sounds good

Jan 20, 2008, 04:08 PM	Thread Starter #7
stylus02 HardwareHeaven Addict Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: germany, sb0090 Posts: 259 Rep Power: 0	another fine tune made today with kx modular http://freenet-homepage.de/stylish-s...ox4_pre_01.mp3 sorry my upload limit is 1.5 mb

Jan 20, 2008, 07:35 PM	Thread Starter #8
stylus02 HardwareHeaven Addict Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: germany, sb0090 Posts: 259 Rep Power: 0	thanks russ. welcome back in the 70's.

Jan 20, 2008, 08:32 PM	#9
Max M. h/h member-shmember Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Evil Empire Posts: 2,640 Rep Power: 69	Yeah, to me these demos sound pretty cool too.

Jan 22, 2008, 12:08 PM	#13
Russ HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 5,563 Rep Power: 62	It calculates the note (0-11) and octave (1-11), and then uses the following formula to calculate the frequency (your exp values are related to each other in same way as the original frequencies): freq = start_freq * 2^(-1/12)^(number of half steps from start_freq) 2^(-1/12) = 0.94387431268169349664191315666753 Raising a number to a power(x) is just multiplying that number by itself (x) number of times, so we can just multiply by 2^(-1/12) for each half step we need. Then for each octave (x) we need to go down, we just multiply the value by 0.5, (x) number of times. The calculations use C9 as the starting freq, but it's value is greater than one, so instead I use C8 (0.62976) and multiply by 2 at the end. The calculations at the top just calculate the note (0-11) and octave (1-11), and then offsets the values, such that it tells us how many multiplies to skip. note = (slider value * 0x80) skips for octave calc = 0x1 + (note / 12) skips for freq calc = 0xC - (((skips for octave calc) * 12) - note) (hex values (above) represent fractional values) Does that make sense to you? Feel free to use the code however you want... Last edited by Russ; Jan 22, 2008 at 12:22 PM. Reason: typo

Jan 22, 2008, 12:25 PM	Thread Starter #14
stylus02 HardwareHeaven Addict Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: germany, sb0090 Posts: 259 Rep Power: 0	simple, but great idea. actually i'm doing some optimizations in dane and c++ to save gpr's. copyrights are important to me. every idea should be protected. it does not play rolls if we work on open source or commercially projects.

Jan 22, 2008, 12:47 PM	#15
Russ HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 5,563 Rep Power: 62	If a GPR is overwritten anyway, then it is free to be used for temp storage before that point (and output GPR's can be used more then once in your code (just not inputs)), so take advantage of that fact to save GPR's (i.e. 'cv' and 'gate_' in the above code are used for temp storage in the calculations at the top of the code). i.e. kvm300 'a' is not needed at all, as 'out' can be used instead.

Jan 22, 2008, 02:03 PM	Thread Starter #16
stylus02 HardwareHeaven Addict Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: germany, sb0090 Posts: 259 Rep Power: 0	for the time being i've made a link to the kbu in the top entry.

Apr 19, 2008, 01:13 PM	#17
Lex Nahumury DH Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 1,932 Rep Power: 64	(Bump) How is your synth project coming? Any luck on the midiport we talked about? /Lex

Apr 19, 2008, 01:59 PM	Thread Starter #18
stylus02 HardwareHeaven Addict Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: germany, sb0090 Posts: 259 Rep Power: 0	the final release comes the next days. many things are improved, some new modules included. no midi api in c++ at the moment. had no really time to work on the project. regards stylus

Apr 24, 2008, 02:14 PM	Thread Starter #19
stylus02 HardwareHeaven Addict Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: germany, sb0090 Posts: 259 Rep Power: 0	kx modular final release v1.1 kxm has reached final release v1.1. just register all plugins, start "trafo", load "kxm_v11.trf" into it, choose midi connections, load synth preset and play! (remember the korg poly 800, moog minimoog, oberheim 4voice or yamaha dx7) http://freenet-homepage.de/stylish-s...final_v1.1.zip http://freenet-homepage.de/stylish-s...nce_pre_01.mp3 have fun! last minute: - preset "kxm saw pad" & presets for vco to play minor or major (very cool polyphonic simulation) v1.1, 23.04.2008 - final release version - now 28 modules - new aliasingfree vco "kxm 210" replaces the old one (based on "kxm 200" with saw, triangle, square, pulswidthed square) - new full range keyboard unit "kxm 110", thanks russ - new "kxm 170" 16x multiplier (use as octave multiplier to generate higher frequencies for ringmodulation (fm - modulation)) - new "kxm 180" single dc value - new "kxm 190" inverter - new "trafo" preset "kxm_v11" to use with "kxm 110" - some presets of classic synths with basic automation for nordlead 1 midi controllers - no more velocity control inputs in vcf's, vca's - no more spaced saw in vco's - no more supersquare (maybe later again) - 2 lfo inputs in vco, vcf's, vca for liquid modulation - added 16x gain slider in ringmodulator "kxm 820" - envelope adjustments in "kx 400" - base frequency adjustments in vco's (2 octaves lower), smaller finetune range - lfo control adjustments in vcf, vca - lfo offset slider +/- 0.5 - spike filter on all vca control inputs - new guid in "kxm 520" (was the same as "kxm 500") - freeware "trafo 0.8" is bundled, please visit "http://members.nextra.at/hubwin//midi.html" - some code optimizations kx it! Last edited by stylus02; Apr 25, 2008 at 03:10 PM.

Apr 26, 2008, 10:25 AM	Thread Starter #20
stylus02 HardwareHeaven Addict Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: germany, sb0090 Posts: 259 Rep Power: 0	what kx modular could do in future (what the dsp is able to do) -better midi timing -morph mixer (vector-, wavetable like simulation) -minimal vco, vcf, vca, envelopes: a (fade in), ad, ar (percussion), ads (minimoog), lfo -portamento -polyphonic (up to 8-16 voices in dependence of complexity) -lfo retrigger -spring reverb -single gate (midi) for drums -step sequencer -arpeggiator -fm osc. (sin) -envelope follower -noise manipulator (granular simulation) -gate retrigger (claps) -simple operators (control voltage & audio): adder, multiplier, rectifier.. -sample rom based synthesis in combination with soundfonts (could imagine a sequential prophet vs or ppg wave synth emulation!) as you can see, emu has implemented all functions to build synthesizers on that dsp. i allways asked me, why this never was done with exception of kx users (lemury and me). perhaps the dsp power of 100/200 mips was to low in contrast to bigger ones from motorola, texas instruments.. which have 10-20 times more power today. nevertheless for the time, when the dsp was released around year 2000, it had enough capacities to establish on the digital synthesizer market. Last edited by stylus02; Apr 26, 2008 at 01:35 PM.

Apr 26, 2008, 02:41 PM	#21
Russ HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 5,563 Rep Power: 62	It is good to see that you are still working on it I have not had a chance to check out the updates yet, but it all sounds good. ...and the demo song has some nice sounds in it. -Russ

Apr 26, 2008, 11:21 PM	Thread Starter #22
stylus02 HardwareHeaven Addict Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: germany, sb0090 Posts: 259 Rep Power: 0	russ, i still see much potential in the dsp and kx/dane. but nobody makes money with kx, so it takes time next logical step, after improve the basics, is to improve the timing. i'm very impressed of lemury´s fast midi response in his a-synth/ drumsynth demos. stylus Last edited by stylus02; Apr 27, 2008 at 08:20 AM.

May 22, 2008, 03:46 PM	#23
Eugene Gavrilov kX Project Lead Programmer and Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 3,119 Rep Power: 75	I'm glad to see this project is evolving : ) Good work, thank you! E.

May 22, 2008, 03:53 PM	Thread Starter #24
stylus02 HardwareHeaven Addict Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: germany, sb0090 Posts: 259 Rep Power: 0	i have to thank you eugene. your sdk and max's dane make it possible. stylus __________________ http://kxm.dyndns.org

May 23, 2008, 11:58 AM	Thread Starter #25
stylus02 HardwareHeaven Addict Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: germany, sb0090 Posts: 259 Rep Power: 0	important update. new fast keyboard unit "kxm120". see top entry. stylus __________________ http://kxm.dyndns.org

May 23, 2008, 12:10 PM	#26
Russ HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 5,563 Rep Power: 62	BTW: You shouldn't save hardware settings, etc in your kX Settings files that you share with other people (you should probably just save with the default options [COLOR=Gray](when saving from DSP)[/COLOR] + automation).

May 23, 2008, 01:36 PM	Thread Starter #27
stylus02 HardwareHeaven Addict Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: germany, sb0090 Posts: 259 Rep Power: 0	you mean the dsp structures *.kx? i allways checked all boxes while saving. i did'nt know for what all this stuff is for. am i right when i save with following settings? - dsp - version ind. - card ind. - automation __________________ http://kxm.dyndns.org

May 23, 2008, 01:45 PM	#28
Russ HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 5,563 Rep Power: 62	Yes, that would be much better. Some hardware settings are not compatible between different card models, and can cause problems (plus there is no need to have people use your SF, mixer, buffer, etc settings). BTW: Automation is only needed if your are using automation in that particular DSP config (of course).

May 23, 2008, 01:50 PM	Thread Starter #29
stylus02 HardwareHeaven Addict Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: germany, sb0090 Posts: 259 Rep Power: 0	ok i will update the .zip's. .. updated version 1.1 __________________ http://kxm.dyndns.org Last edited by stylus02; May 23, 2008 at 02:12 PM.*

May 23, 2008, 02:30 PM	#30
Russ HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 5,563 Rep Power: 62	Oops, did you recompile the 3541 version of kxm120? The GUI is not working (crashes kX Mixer). I think that maybe you forgot to compile it using the release build config.