atid

hi,

i have audigy ZS. and kx project.
i work with kxdrv3541 - and run a 4way audio system (in a car-pc).

ok now so the problam is this:
how can i pick a slope to use in the cross (6/12/18/24OCT)
because right now, i see only the cutting. but i want to pick the slope - its very important in my set-up

thank you all !

Russ

Slope is determined by the filter order.

i.e.
2nd Order Crossover is 12 dB/octave.
4th Order Crossover is 24 dB/octave.

atid

thanks

how can i pick the
2nd Order Crossover is 12 dB/octave.
4th Order Crossover is 24 dB/octave.
?

i use the lowpassEQ.
and the hipassEQ.
(and hi after low to get a band-pass)
from the original EQ plugin

Russ

I am not sure what you are asking...

There are crossover plugins (2nd order and 4th order) bundled with kX and with the UFX plugin pack.

6/12/18/24 dB/octave refers to the slope of the transition band. This is determined by the filter order.

As for the EQ Lowpass, EQ Highpass, etc, they are 2nd order filters.

atid

yes yes now i see.

i find the
2nd Order Crossover is 12 dB/octave.
4th Order Crossover is 24 dB/octave.

so if i understand right the kx include
only 12db slope (2n)
and 24db slope (4th)

there is a way to get a 6/18/30 slopes ?

thank you so much !

Russ

Right.

Currently there are no such plugins (that I am aware of).

poz

i have a question about cascading

if i put 2 x (2nd Order Crossover) connected together
what is the slope i get 12 or 24 ?

thanks

Russ

I think you would get 24 dB/octave, but I do not think you really want to use crossovers like this as there are other effects that result (i.e. signal would be attenuated by 6 dB, there is possible summing issues and phasing issues, etc). You are better off just using a crossover designed with the slope that you need.

poz

russ,
if i use 2 2-order cross in a line
the first to cut the low and the second to cut the high,
the slops work individually right?

lets say i want to change the first one to 4-order cross
-> [4-order[50hz]]-> high -> [2-order[4000hz]] -> low ->

so i get 24db slope at the 50hz cut and 12db slope at the 4000hz cut right?

Russ

I am really not an expert on this, but I think that's right (with the cutoff frequencies so far apart, you should not get the same interaction with the different bands).

Assuming you are trying to make a 3-Way crossover, your other option is to just use a Lowpass, Highpass, and Bandpass filter in parallel (2nd order filters, so 12 dB/ocatve (BTW: IIRC, the Phat EQ is 24 db/ocatve?)).

poz

Ok
i think i understand what i need to do now

thank you for your help russ