lite versions of prolog and epilog...

Eminos · Sep 24, 2003, 06:32 PM

Is there any negative stuff about using "prologlt" (lite) and epiloglt_k1 (lite) in the DSP, instead of the original prolog and epilog?

Howcome they don't use any resources, and the original prolog and epilog does?

Greatful for reply...

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I've just discovered that there isn't the same inputs in epiloglt as in epilog...where is the analog center/sub and headphones "input", for example?

Well, the more I look at the lite versions, the more confused I'm getting :)

Please, someone explain...

/Eminos

kode54 · Sep 24, 2003, 08:06 PM

If you edit their source code, you'll notice that those "lite" versions are non-functional.

Eminos · Sep 24, 2003, 08:46 PM

Why are they included then?

HarmLammers · Sep 24, 2003, 09:50 PM

They are functional, but they lack the links to the faders in the mixing console and they don't save the cable connections you made to them, so you can use them, they are just the ports of the EMU10Kx, but you have to restore the connections to epiloglt everytime you restart your computer.

Eminos · Sep 24, 2003, 10:21 PM

Ok, that's shit then...

Thanks anyway

kode54 · Sep 24, 2003, 10:59 PM

The versions bundled with 3534 are non-functional. You can connect to them, but they don't actually do anything.

epologlt_k1:

Code:

; Generated by kX DSP Editor - microcode dump
name "epiloglt_k1";
copyright "Copyright (c) Eugene Gavrilov, 2003.";
engine "kX";
created "05/11/2003";
comment "epilog lite - no resources used";
guid "85e97848-0004-4006-a500-5a6a03b1bf09";
; Registers
	input ac97_l, ac97_r, spdif0_l;
	input spdif0_r, spdif1_l, spdif1_r;
	input spdif2_l, spdif2_r, spdif3_l;
	input spdif3_r, recl, recr;
	input rec_mic, out_13, out_14;
	input out_15, asio0, asio1_cnt;
	input asio2_lfe, asio3, asio4;
	input asio5, asio6, asio7;
	input asio8, asio9, asio10;
	input asio11, asio12, asio13;
	input asio14, asio15

; Code

end

prologlt:

Code:

; Generated by kX DSP Editor - microcode dump
name "prologlt";
copyright "Copyright (c) Eugene Gavrilov, 2003.";
engine "kX";
created "05/11/2003";
comment "prolog lite - no resources used";
guid "06f1854e-8e8f-465f-8d9c-966cfcc20dc7";
; Registers
	output ac97_l, ac97_r, spdifA_l;
	output spdifA_r, spdifC_l, spdifC_r;
	output spdifB_l, spdifB_r, i2s0_l;
	output i2s0_r, i2s1_l, i2s1_r;
	output i2s2_l, i2s2_r, ac97_mic

; Code

end

And you can save your full configuration, including the DSP setup. It should remember your most recent configuration and reload on startup. ...which isn't much use if the effects aren't doing anything.

**Eugene Gavrilov** · Sep 25, 2003, 12:53 AM

kX-related Myths are my favourite threads

so, what are the 'lite' versions?
they are just 'placeholders' representing 10k1/10k2 chips' "physical" inputs and outputs
that's why they don't require any additional resources
and that's why their inputs and outputs are labelled 'i2sXX', 'spdifXX' instead of 'analog center' or 'CD SPDIF'
certain chip outputs and inputs aren't connected to the codecs (it depends on the card model)

they are useful only for people interested in freeing some DSP registers...
they are also used for testing purposes

of course, kX Mixer's 'Ins and Outs' page will be unavailable when using 'lite' prolog/epilog
and, finally, this feature isn't supposed to be widely used and is currently under development
that's why epilog/prolog lite connections aren't restored on reboot

/Eugene

p.s.
btw, the 'FXBUS' effect is practically the same 'pseudo-plugin' -- it doesn't use any resources and simply represents software outputs

kode54 · Sep 25, 2003, 05:58 AM

I apologize for generating any myths.

**Eugene Gavrilov** · Sep 25, 2003, 10:04 PM

there's absolutely no problem with kX Myths

I find them interesting -- and, by the way, I find it interesting to be a myth-maker & myth-breaker, too

/Eugene

Sep 24, 2003, 06:32 PM	#1
Eminos DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Sweden Posts: 133 Rep Power: 0	lite versions of prolog and epilog... Is there any negative stuff about using "prologlt" (lite) and epiloglt_k1 (lite) in the DSP, instead of the original prolog and epilog? Howcome they don't use any resources, and the original prolog and epilog does? Greatful for reply... --- I've just discovered that there isn't the same inputs in epiloglt as in epilog...where is the analog center/sub and headphones "input", for example? Well, the more I look at the lite versions, the more confused I'm getting :) Please, someone explain... /Eminos

Sep 24, 2003, 08:06 PM	#2
kode54 DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 30 Rep Power: 0	If you edit their source code, you'll notice that those "lite" versions are non-functional.

Sep 24, 2003, 08:46 PM	Thread Starter #3
Eminos DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Sweden Posts: 133 Rep Power: 0	Why are they included then?

Sep 24, 2003, 09:50 PM	#4
HarmLammers DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 68 Rep Power: 0	They are functional, but they lack the links to the faders in the mixing console and they don't save the cable connections you made to them, so you can use them, they are just the ports of the EMU10Kx, but you have to restore the connections to epiloglt everytime you restart your computer.

Sep 24, 2003, 10:21 PM	Thread Starter #5
Eminos DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Sweden Posts: 133 Rep Power: 0	Ok, that's shit then... Thanks anyway

Sep 25, 2003, 12:53 AM	#7
Eugene Gavrilov kX Project Lead Programmer and Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 3,119 Rep Power: 75	kX-related Myths are my favourite threads so, what are the 'lite' versions? they are just 'placeholders' representing 10k1/10k2 chips' "physical" inputs and outputs that's why they don't require any additional resources and that's why their inputs and outputs are labelled 'i2sXX', 'spdifXX' instead of 'analog center' or 'CD SPDIF' certain chip outputs and inputs aren't connected to the codecs (it depends on the card model) they are useful only for people interested in freeing some DSP registers... they are also used for testing purposes of course, kX Mixer's 'Ins and Outs' page will be unavailable when using 'lite' prolog/epilog and, finally, this feature isn't supposed to be widely used and is currently under development that's why epilog/prolog lite connections aren't restored on reboot /Eugene p.s. btw, the 'FXBUS' effect is practically the same 'pseudo-plugin' -- it doesn't use any resources and simply represents software outputs

Sep 25, 2003, 05:58 AM	#8
kode54 DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 30 Rep Power: 0	I apologize for generating any myths.

Sep 25, 2003, 10:04 PM	#9
Eugene Gavrilov kX Project Lead Programmer and Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 3,119 Rep Power: 75	there's absolutely no problem with kX Myths I find them interesting -- and, by the way, I find it interesting to be a myth-maker & myth-breaker, too /Eugene