APS Expander 3531 not running with 3535

TravelRec. · Oct 10, 2003, 06:23 AM

Hi all!

With the new drivers the APS-Expander plugin unfortunately doesn´t work anymore. Internally all seems okay, but there are no tweakings possible. No silders if I doubleclick the plugin. In the automation-window the effect appears, but also without any GPRs.

Please help me - I miss my noise-gates...!

Thanx in advance!

TravelRec.

**Eugene Gavrilov** · Oct 10, 2003, 11:32 PM

>> APS-Expander

what plugin are you speaking about?
what is its GUID?
bundled with kX or 3rd-party?

/E

kokoon · Oct 11, 2003, 03:50 PM

same here, i cant use the new versions because of this. whose plugins were those anyway? eyegos?

TravelRec. · Oct 13, 2003, 06:39 AM

Hi Eugene!

This is it:

APSExpander 141a09a2-3d0b-11d6-a4c7-8fae6d701846
Fri Jul 13 12:59:04 2001
Expander (based on the APS Diet Compressor) EMU10K1_A0
Copyright 1998 E-mu Systems/Creative Technology, Ltd.

I found it into this forum as an *.kxl-file (don´t remember, where - think, MaxB told about it)

You can download the complete file here:

http://www.electricstart.de/plug/apsexp31.zip

Thankx for your reply!

TravelRec.

Daniel Drummond · Oct 13, 2003, 07:19 AM

Here: http://www.hardwareheaven.com/showthre...light=expander

TravelRec. · Oct 20, 2003, 07:22 AM

Hi Guys!

So... no-one here to bring back the little noise-killers???

PPPPPPLLLLLLEEEEEEAAAAAASSSSSSEEEEEE HELP!

Thanx in advance!

TravelRec.

Soeren_B · Oct 20, 2003, 08:28 AM

Well, it should not be that hard provided that the source code (for the GUI stuff) is there.... Eyagos does not seem to hang around here anymore, but it may be possible to recreate a GUI using the APS compressor sources.

I assume that you want side band functionality in there aswell

?

Cheers
Soeren

P.S. Eyagos: Are you still around?

TravelRec. · Oct 21, 2003, 05:54 AM

Hi Soeren!

Yes, that would be nice. Sorry for my impatience, but these little gates are so useful and they save a lot of work in processing waves after recording, ´cause they process them before...

Thanks for coming in here!

TravelRec.

eyagos · Oct 24, 2003, 10:52 PM

Sorry for not being here all this time. Don't have too much time now, but I'll update to 3535 in a few days. And I'll send the code to KX team too.

See you in a days.

Plugg · Oct 31, 2003, 07:49 PM

Hi TravelRec!

I compiled an Expander and a Compressor plugin - for kX 3536a - based on the kX driver's APSCompressor and the APSExpander made by eYagos. I don't tested it deeply, but it seems good and working.

I can't upload it anywhere, but i send it to You via e-mail if You interested.

And thank you the whole kX team, and eYagos for the great driver and effects.

P.S. Sorry for my bad english, i hope You understand what i wan't to say.

mAlo · Oct 31, 2003, 08:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Plugg
Hi TravelRec!

I compiled an Expander and a Compressor plugin - for kX 3536a - based on the kX driver's APSCompressor and the APSExpander made by eYagos. I don't tested it deeply, but it seems good and working.

I can't upload it anywhere, but i send it to You via e-mail if You interested.

And thank you the whole kX team, and eYagos for the great driver and effects.

P.S. Sorry for my bad english, i hope You understand what i wan't to say.

Great News!

I have a request for all dsp programmers: can you please compile a "mono" version for the compressor and the expander?

Thanks a lot!

MaxB · Nov 2, 2003, 12:32 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Plugg
Hi TravelRec!

I compiled an Expander and a Compressor plugin - for kX 3536a - based on the kX driver's APSCompressor and the APSExpander made by eYagos. I don't tested it deeply, but it seems good and working.

I can't upload it anywhere, but i send it to You via e-mail if You interested.

Please Plugg can you send it to me too??
My Email is riptide@infinito.it

Thank you!

MaxB

eyagos · Nov 2, 2003, 01:24 PM

Sorry again. My Visual Studio 6.0 CD is broken and I can't install it. I have the .NET version, but I cant compile with this version because an error. Is it possible to compile with the .Net version??

Thanks.

Plugg · Nov 2, 2003, 02:25 PM

Eyagos:

If I good know it's not possible to compile with .NET for kX. I found this topic and the possible answer:

http://www.hardwareheaven.com/showthre...threadid=17714

MaxB:

I uploaded the plugins to this location. Here is the links to them:

Compressor: http://plugg.fpn.hu/compress.kxl

Expander: http://plugg.fpn.hu/expander.kxl

P.S.: I'm not a professional DSP programmer, I just in the learning phase, so if anybody find an error, please write it to me, and I try to correct it. Thank You.

P.S.2: mAlo: here You find a Mono Compressor please test it. I hope it works good. The link is: http://plugg.fpn.hu/monocomp.kxl

MaxB · Nov 2, 2003, 02:53 PM

Thank you so much PLugg!!
I will test these plugs as soon as possible!

MaxB

mAlo · Nov 2, 2003, 07:19 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Plugg
...

P.S.2: mAlo: here You find a Mono Compressor please test it. I hope it works good. The link is: http://plugg.fpn.hu/monocomp.kxl

Thanks a lot!

I'm testing!

sAluti

eyagos · Nov 2, 2003, 07:47 PM

Well, could you please test this new compressor:

Comp-T.da

- It has a new level detector, and it would must work better.
- It is not in a .dll, and the values can't be choosen properly. The defaults values are the same as the APS compressor.
- This compressor (and the APS too) works in stereo and mono: Practically no difference if it would be coded for mono.

gribelu · Nov 3, 2003, 07:30 AM

The recompiles of the compressor and expander crash the kx mixer when i try to adjust the sliders. Close, but not quite there

Thanks for the work though and i hope you'll fix it

Plugg · Nov 3, 2003, 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by gribelu
The recompiles of the compressor and expander crash the kx mixer when i try to adjust the sliders. Close, but not quite there Thanks for the work though and i hope you'll fix it

Thank You for the reply.

I don't tested it with the default kX DSP setup so far, but today i tried it. For me - with the default setup of kX - the original APS plugins crashes my kX mixer. The APSCompressor and the others like Flanger etc. So i think the bug is not in my recompiles. But i hope somebody can figure out why these crashes happen.

I use different plugins instead Epilog and Prolog. Most of them written by LeMury and with those the Compressor and the Expander is working properly.

Here is my DSP setup and this is fully working without crashes.

http://plugg.fpn.hu/DSP.jpg

But i don't give up and i try to find the answer to these things.

eyagos · Nov 3, 2003, 12:41 PM

Maybe due to differences between 3536a and 3536b. Here it crashes too, with 3536b.

mAlo · Nov 3, 2003, 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Plugg

P.S.2: mAlo: here You find a Mono Compressor please test it. I hope it works good. The link is: http://plugg.fpn.hu/monocomp.kxl

It works! Thanks a lot!

Can you please remove even the mon_gain output and the related gprs?

Plugg · Nov 3, 2003, 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by mAlo
It works! Thanks a lot!
Can you please remove even the mon_gain output and the related gprs?

Hi mAlo!

Thank You for the great news!

If You wish i can remove it. I upload it to the same site. Here is the URL:

http://plugg.fpn.hu/monocomplt.kxl

mAlo · Nov 4, 2003, 02:39 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by eyagos
Well, could you please test this new compressor:

Comp-T.da

- It has a new level detector, and it would must work better.
- It is not in a .dll, and the values can't be choosen properly. The defaults values are the same as the APS compressor.
- This compressor (and the APS too) works in stereo and mono: Practically no difference if it would be coded for mono.

It sounds very interesting!

mAlo · Nov 4, 2003, 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Plugg
Hi mAlo!

Thank You for the great news!

If You wish i can remove it. I upload it to the same site. Here is the URL:

http://plugg.fpn.hu/monocomplt.kxl

Thanks again!
It works!

TravelRec. · Nov 5, 2003, 06:26 AM

Hi!

eyagos - Comp-T is not working on my system with 3536a, not like a comp - more like a volume fader with not reproduceable tweakings - sorry...

Plugg - the new compiled expander works with 3536a, but could you please remove the mon_out? It makes no sense, fills up some space and kills some GPRs. Thanks!

Keep up the good work!

TravelRec.

Plugg · Nov 5, 2003, 01:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by TravelRec.
Hi!

Plugg - the new compiled expander works with 3536a, but could you please remove the mon_out? It makes no sense, fills up some space and kills some GPRs. Thanks!

Hi!

Thank You for the reply and testing. I'm happy if it's useful to You.

I removed the mon_out and created a simple but (I think so

) useful website for the plugins.
Here You find all versions.

http://plugg.fpn.hu

And thank You everybody who tested the plugins.

P.S. The previously posted links not work anymore please follow the above link, and you find the files.

gribelu · Nov 5, 2003, 01:25 PM

no, i like the mon_gain output

But please recompile it to work with 3536b ... because it currently doesn't

Thanks

gribelu · Nov 5, 2003, 03:56 PM

The monitor/no-monitor versions are an even better idea

. This way i can use the ones with the monitor for setting up the thing and then free some GPRs when i'm pleased with the result.
I found a workaround for the 3536b... sorta. I set it up in 3536a and then installed 3536b on top. I can't change the settings anymore but they use the settings i saved. That will be ok for me till the recompile.

Thanks for your work Plugg

eyagos · Nov 5, 2003, 04:35 PM

Quote:

(TravelRec)
Hi!

eyagos - Comp-T is not working on my system with 3536a, not like a comp - more like a volume fader with not reproduceable tweakings - sorry...

Yep, I have detected some errors. Give me time...

eYagos.

kokoon · Nov 5, 2003, 09:47 PM

hooray!!! thanks guys!

Oct 10, 2003, 06:23 AM	#1
TravelRec. Alternative Audioproductions Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Germany / Sachsen-Anhalt Posts: 1,710 Rep Power: 0	APS Expander 3531 not running with 3535 Hi all! With the new drivers the APS-Expander plugin unfortunately doesn´t work anymore. Internally all seems okay, but there are no tweakings possible. No silders if I doubleclick the plugin. In the automation-window the effect appears, but also without any GPRs. Please help me - I miss my noise-gates...! Thanx in advance! TravelRec. __________________ Always take a look behind.

Oct 11, 2003, 03:50 PM	#3
kokoon DriverHeaven Addict Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: slovenia Posts: 269 Rep Power: 0	same here, i cant use the new versions because of this. whose plugins were those anyway? eyegos? __________________ [kokoon]

Oct 13, 2003, 06:39 AM	Thread Starter #4
TravelRec. Alternative Audioproductions Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Germany / Sachsen-Anhalt Posts: 1,710 Rep Power: 0	Hi Eugene! This is it: APSExpander 141a09a2-3d0b-11d6-a4c7-8fae6d701846 Fri Jul 13 12:59:04 2001 Expander (based on the APS Diet Compressor) EMU10K1_A0 Copyright 1998 E-mu Systems/Creative Technology, Ltd. I found it into this forum as an *.kxl-file (don´t remember, where - think, MaxB told about it) You can download the complete file here: http://www.electricstart.de/plug/apsexp31.zip Thankx for your reply! TravelRec. __________________ Always take a look behind.

Oct 13, 2003, 07:19 AM	#5
Daniel Drummond DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Brazil Posts: 1,137 Rep Power: 0	Here: http://www.hardwareheaven.com/showthre...light=expander __________________ www.palcomp3.com.br/ed

Oct 20, 2003, 07:22 AM	Thread Starter #6
TravelRec. Alternative Audioproductions Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Germany / Sachsen-Anhalt Posts: 1,710 Rep Power: 0	Hi Guys! So... no-one here to bring back the little noise-killers??? PPPPPPLLLLLLEEEEEEAAAAAASSSSSSEEEEEE HELP! Thanx in advance! TravelRec. __________________ Always take a look behind.

Oct 10, 2003, 11:32 PM	#2
Eugene Gavrilov kX Project Lead Programmer and Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 3,119 Rep Power: 75	>> APS-Expander what plugin are you speaking about? what is its GUID? bundled with kX or 3rd-party? /E

Oct 20, 2003, 08:28 AM	#7
Soeren_B kX Project DSP Engineer Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Denmark Posts: 94 Rep Power: 0	Well, it should not be that hard provided that the source code (for the GUI stuff) is there.... Eyagos does not seem to hang around here anymore, but it may be possible to recreate a GUI using the APS compressor sources. I assume that you want side band functionality in there aswell ? Cheers Soeren P.S. Eyagos: Are you still around?

Oct 21, 2003, 05:54 AM	Thread Starter #8
TravelRec. Alternative Audioproductions Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Germany / Sachsen-Anhalt Posts: 1,710 Rep Power: 0	Hi Soeren! Yes, that would be nice. Sorry for my impatience, but these little gates are so useful and they save a lot of work in processing waves after recording, ´cause they process them before... Thanks for coming in here! TravelRec. __________________ Always take a look behind.

Oct 24, 2003, 10:52 PM	#9
eyagos DriverHeaven Addict Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 259 Rep Power: 0	Sorry for not being here all this time. Don't have too much time now, but I'll update to 3535 in a few days. And I'll send the code to KX team too. See you in a days.

Oct 31, 2003, 07:49 PM	#10
Plugg DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 7 Rep Power: 0	Hi TravelRec! I compiled an Expander and a Compressor plugin - for kX 3536a - based on the kX driver's APSCompressor and the APSExpander made by eYagos. I don't tested it deeply, but it seems good and working. I can't upload it anywhere, but i send it to You via e-mail if You interested. And thank you the whole kX team, and eYagos for the great driver and effects. P.S. Sorry for my bad english, i hope You understand what i wan't to say.

Nov 2, 2003, 01:24 PM	#13
eyagos DriverHeaven Addict Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 259 Rep Power: 0	Sorry again. My Visual Studio 6.0 CD is broken and I can't install it. I have the .NET version, but I cant compile with this version because an error. Is it possible to compile with the .Net version?? Thanks.

Nov 2, 2003, 02:25 PM	#14
Plugg DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 7 Rep Power: 0	Eyagos: If I good know it's not possible to compile with .NET for kX. I found this topic and the possible answer: http://www.hardwareheaven.com/showthre...threadid=17714 MaxB: I uploaded the plugins to this location. Here is the links to them: Compressor: http://plugg.fpn.hu/compress.kxl Expander: http://plugg.fpn.hu/expander.kxl P.S.: I'm not a professional DSP programmer, I just in the learning phase, so if anybody find an error, please write it to me, and I try to correct it. Thank You. P.S.2: mAlo: here You find a Mono Compressor please test it. I hope it works good. The link is: http://plugg.fpn.hu/monocomp.kxl Last edited by Plugg; Nov 2, 2003 at 02:41 PM.

Nov 2, 2003, 02:53 PM	#15
MaxB DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 39 Rep Power: 0	Thank you so much PLugg!! I will test these plugs as soon as possible! MaxB

Nov 2, 2003, 07:47 PM	#17
eyagos DriverHeaven Addict Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 259 Rep Power: 0	Well, could you please test this new compressor: Comp-T.da - It has a new level detector, and it would must work better. - It is not in a .dll, and the values can't be choosen properly. The defaults values are the same as the APS compressor. - This compressor (and the APS too) works in stereo and mono: Practically no difference if it would be coded for mono.

Nov 3, 2003, 07:30 AM	#18
gribelu DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 10 Rep Power: 0	The recompiles of the compressor and expander crash the kx mixer when i try to adjust the sliders. Close, but not quite there Thanks for the work though and i hope you'll fix it

Nov 3, 2003, 12:41 PM	#20
eyagos DriverHeaven Addict Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 259 Rep Power: 0	Maybe due to differences between 3536a and 3536b. Here it crashes too, with 3536b.

Nov 5, 2003, 06:26 AM	Thread Starter #25
TravelRec. Alternative Audioproductions Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Germany / Sachsen-Anhalt Posts: 1,710 Rep Power: 0	Hi! eyagos - Comp-T is not working on my system with 3536a, not like a comp - more like a volume fader with not reproduceable tweakings - sorry... Plugg - the new compiled expander works with 3536a, but could you please remove the mon_out? It makes no sense, fills up some space and kills some GPRs. Thanks! Keep up the good work! TravelRec. __________________ Always take a look behind.

Nov 5, 2003, 01:25 PM	#27
gribelu DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 10 Rep Power: 0	no, i like the mon_gain output But please recompile it to work with 3536b ... because it currently doesn't Thanks

Nov 5, 2003, 03:56 PM	#28
gribelu DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 10 Rep Power: 0	The monitor/no-monitor versions are an even better idea . This way i can use the ones with the monitor for setting up the thing and then free some GPRs when i'm pleased with the result. I found a workaround for the 3536b... sorta. I set it up in 3536a and then installed 3536b on top. I can't change the settings anymore but they use the settings i saved. That will be ok for me till the recompile. Thanks for your work Plugg

Nov 5, 2003, 09:47 PM	#30
kokoon DriverHeaven Addict Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: slovenia Posts: 269 Rep Power: 0	hooray!!! thanks guys! __________________ [kokoon]