Output Rerouting

microfreek · Apr 1, 2004, 02:19 AM

I was wondering if it was possible on a Live soundcard, using the DSP, to reroute the line in on the back of the card to become say the front out port.

Thanks in advance,
Jared

**dj_stick** · Apr 1, 2004, 02:38 AM

you mean turn the input into an output?
i don't think this is possible, as it is only the more modern chips that can switch assignments, the only way to do this is a hard ware re-routing

microfreek · Apr 1, 2004, 02:45 AM

Hmm... I'm confused then, how is it possible to get 5.1 sound out of this card? Does the mini-din output double as center/sub out?

microfreek · Apr 1, 2004, 02:47 AM

Sorry I guess I should specify that I have an original SB Live its the CT4760.

microfreek · Apr 1, 2004, 02:49 AM

Oh, another question, where do the headphones L/R on the epilog route to on the Live? What I'm mainly trying to accomplish is figure out some way to hook up my front audio ports on my case to the Live.

**dj_stick** · Apr 1, 2004, 03:22 AM

headphones route to either the sub/center on live! 5.1/audigy (if u set it to) or the headphone port in the live!/audigy drive.
Sounds like you only have a 4 channel card so there is no wa to get 5.1 w/o using an external DAC

microfreek · Apr 1, 2004, 05:44 AM

Hmm, well there is this site that suggests the only difference between the original live and live 5.1 is the ID stored on this EEPROM: http://www.digit-life.com/articles/livetolive51/?98294 I was gonna try reprogramming it to see if it opens up any new features.

**dj_stick** · Apr 1, 2004, 06:40 AM

that is the only difference firmware wise, but there is no physical connection between the 5th and 6th channels on the chip to a DAC codec and then to an output jack

**dj_stick** · Apr 1, 2004, 06:41 AM

btw with some soldering and some ICs you can turn ur live into a 7.1 channel card

microfreek · Apr 1, 2004, 10:00 PM

That sounds interesting.... do you have a link to a tutorial or diagram or anything?

**dj_stick** · Apr 2, 2004, 12:40 AM

no sorry no tuts on it… but using the 10k1 pinout available somewhere i can't remember where… an DAC and some wires… it's possible, but be very careful if soldering… the 10k1 pins are very small if you bridge them you my just ruin your card

microfreek · Apr 2, 2004, 01:39 AM

Hmm, yeah unfortunately I don't think I'd have the skill to do that without a tutorial. Thanks for all the help though.

**dj_stick** · Apr 2, 2004, 04:35 AM

try looking at travelrec's site, i think its www.electricstart.de - he has some useful tips for using s/pdif out to analog

TravelRec. · Apr 2, 2004, 06:27 AM

Hi!

No, not really - for the moment only analog to digital or digital interconnection is available. I doubt that I make digital to analog next time, think, inputs are more important than outs to achieve multitrack recording at highest performance...

CU!

TravelRec.

**dj_stick** · Apr 2, 2004, 10:23 AM

that is true travelrec, but simply changing the IC you used with a DAC, then it is quite possible to manage extra outputs

Kongio · Apr 2, 2004, 03:36 PM

If you want to build a DAC then try the following link.
It describes how to build an SPDIF to Analogue converter.

http://sound.westhost.com/project85.htm

Also mentions connecting to the pins on soundblaster cards

kongio

TravelRec. · Apr 5, 2004, 09:03 AM

Ahh,

I see - quite clear - seems that I have to increase my stock of solder wire

, but not yet - the 3 analog stereo pairs of the card are enough for hearing - for external recording I use the digital SPDIFs. So with 10k2 you can have 6 stereo out pairs - 3 digitals for DAC and the 3 analogs - cool, isn´t it?

Greetings!

TravelRec.

Apr 1, 2004, 02:19 AM	#1
microfreek DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 9 Rep Power: 0	Output Rerouting I was wondering if it was possible on a Live soundcard, using the DSP, to reroute the line in on the back of the card to become say the front out port. Thanks in advance, Jared

Apr 2, 2004, 06:27 AM	#14
TravelRec. Alternative Audioproductions Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Germany / Sachsen-Anhalt Posts: 1,710 Rep Power: 0	Hi! No, not really - for the moment only analog to digital or digital interconnection is available. I doubt that I make digital to analog next time, think, inputs are more important than outs to achieve multitrack recording at highest performance... CU! TravelRec. __________________ Always take a look behind.

Apr 5, 2004, 09:03 AM	#17
TravelRec. Alternative Audioproductions Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Germany / Sachsen-Anhalt Posts: 1,710 Rep Power: 0	Ahh, I see - quite clear - seems that I have to increase my stock of solder wire , but not yet - the 3 analog stereo pairs of the card are enough for hearing - for external recording I use the digital SPDIFs. So with 10k2 you can have 6 stereo out pairs - 3 digitals for DAC and the 3 analogs - cool, isn´t it? Greetings! TravelRec. __________________ Always take a look behind.

Apr 1, 2004, 02:45 AM	Thread Starter #3
microfreek DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 9 Rep Power: 0	Hmm... I'm confused then, how is it possible to get 5.1 sound out of this card? Does the mini-din output double as center/sub out?

Apr 1, 2004, 02:47 AM	Thread Starter #4
microfreek DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 9 Rep Power: 0	Sorry I guess I should specify that I have an original SB Live its the CT4760.

Apr 1, 2004, 02:49 AM	Thread Starter #5
microfreek DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 9 Rep Power: 0	Oh, another question, where do the headphones L/R on the epilog route to on the Live? What I'm mainly trying to accomplish is figure out some way to hook up my front audio ports on my case to the Live.

Apr 1, 2004, 05:44 AM	Thread Starter #7
microfreek DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 9 Rep Power: 0	Hmm, well there is this site that suggests the only difference between the original live and live 5.1 is the ID stored on this EEPROM: http://www.digit-life.com/articles/livetolive51/?98294 I was gonna try reprogramming it to see if it opens up any new features.

Apr 1, 2004, 10:00 PM	Thread Starter #10
microfreek DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 9 Rep Power: 0	That sounds interesting.... do you have a link to a tutorial or diagram or anything?

Apr 2, 2004, 01:39 AM	Thread Starter #12
microfreek DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 9 Rep Power: 0	Hmm, yeah unfortunately I don't think I'd have the skill to do that without a tutorial. Thanks for all the help though.

Apr 2, 2004, 03:36 PM	#16
Kongio DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 13 Rep Power: 0	If you want to build a DAC then try the following link. It describes how to build an SPDIF to Analogue converter. http://sound.westhost.com/project85.htm Also mentions connecting to the pins on soundblaster cards kongio