E-MU PowerFX Hardware VST Effects

Rivera · Jul 25, 2004, 08:31 PM

Seems like E-MU(Creative) has manage to make their newer cards handle full hardware-accelerated VST effects plug-ins, not in the usual E-Wire fashion, but in full blown selectable VST insert effects that can also handle automation. Kinda gives a little hope for us KX users since the E-DSP is somewhat similar to the Audigy 10k2 (I could be wrong).

Links:

http://www.sonicstate.com/news/shownews.cfm?newsid=1583

http://namm.harmony-central.com/SNAM...werFX-VST.html

Tiger M · Jul 25, 2004, 09:06 PM

Nope, they don't make VST effects hardware-accelerated, they rather make existing EMU dsp effects usable as VST effects through some interface.

Lex Nahumury · Jul 25, 2004, 09:44 PM

Yep, Tiger is right. you can only use EMU's own effects, so forget about
accelerating your favorite VST(i)s with it.

More interesting is wheter or not EMU provides an open programming enviroment
for third party fx dev.

/LeMury

**dj_stick** · Jul 25, 2004, 10:07 PM

Thread

Quote:

Originally posted by ICHi001
***If anyone is serious about wanting to program 3rd party DSP FX for the DAS's you can submit a formal business plan/resume to E-MU Systems attn: Yuichiro Nagai for review. No guarantees but we are currently open to the idea of letting a few select people in. Be forewarned though that this is not for the meek of heart. 10KX DSP programming is a ring 0 affair so prerequisite chops required. There will also be very strict NDA control on anyone that participates. If that doesn't scare you away we'd be interested in hearing from you.

Best,
ICHi
E-MU Systems

Tiger M · Jul 25, 2004, 10:17 PM

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Be forewarned though that this is not for the meek of heart

"not for the meek of heart"

good Lord! D

these japanese ninnys are crazy! " letting a few select people in"!

I guess this means there will not be any "open" environment after all.
This is only for their loss.

Rivera · Jul 26, 2004, 10:48 AM

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they rather make existing EMU dsp effects usable as VST effects through some interface.

This IS what I meant. Being able to use the E-DSP effects in your inserts, which simplifies things, not to mention consuming less CPU resources. Although at a 48Khz limit, which is not acceptable to some.

Rivera

**dj_stick** · Jul 26, 2004, 10:54 AM

still you can use DSP plugins in VST sequencers… but in a more round-about way… i wonder if eugene could modify the DSP slightly to allow a VST controller to access the DSP? or maybe its technically too hard

Rivera · Jul 26, 2004, 11:10 AM

Although I have no experience in modern programing (except for BASIC in the late seventies and early eighties with Apple 2's and commodores), I believe it can be done. It is just that Eugene has to go at it on a trial and error basis, because Creative/E-MU does not want to share their full information regarding the KX compatible cards. Maybe they think it might hurt their bussiness in some way.

Rivera

**Eugene Gavrilov** · Jul 26, 2004, 12:55 PM

it is currently impossible to hardware-accelerate any VST effect.
the only thing that currently exists is kX Automation / kX VSTi

/E

Rivera · Jul 26, 2004, 01:09 PM

Thanks for the response, Eugene.

Rivera

Jul 25, 2004, 08:31 PM	#1
Rivera DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 64 Rep Power: 0	E-MU PowerFX Hardware VST Effects Seems like E-MU(Creative) has manage to make their newer cards handle full hardware-accelerated VST effects plug-ins, not in the usual E-Wire fashion, but in full blown selectable VST insert effects that can also handle automation. Kinda gives a little hope for us KX users since the E-DSP is somewhat similar to the Audigy 10k2 (I could be wrong). Links: http://www.sonicstate.com/news/shownews.cfm?newsid=1583 http://namm.harmony-central.com/SNAM...werFX-VST.html

Jul 25, 2004, 09:06 PM	#2
Tiger M kX user Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 851 Rep Power: 0	Nope, they don't make VST effects hardware-accelerated, they rather make existing EMU dsp effects usable as VST effects through some interface. __________________ Miss you, Steve...

Jul 25, 2004, 09:44 PM	#3
Lex Nahumury DH Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 1,932 Rep Power: 64	Yep, Tiger is right. you can only use EMU's own effects, so forget about accelerating your favorite VST(i)s with it. More interesting is wheter or not EMU provides an open programming enviroment for third party fx dev. /LeMury

Jul 26, 2004, 11:10 AM	Thread Starter #8
Rivera DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 64 Rep Power: 0	Although I have no experience in modern programing (except for BASIC in the late seventies and early eighties with Apple 2's and commodores), I believe it can be done. It is just that Eugene has to go at it on a trial and error basis, because Creative/E-MU does not want to share their full information regarding the KX compatible cards. Maybe they think it might hurt their bussiness in some way. Rivera

Jul 26, 2004, 12:55 PM	#9
Eugene Gavrilov kX Project Lead Programmer and Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 3,119 Rep Power: 75	it is currently impossible to hardware-accelerate any VST effect. the only thing that currently exists is kX Automation / kX VSTi /E

Jul 26, 2004, 01:09 PM	Thread Starter #10
Rivera DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 64 Rep Power: 0	Thanks for the response, Eugene. Rivera