just finished my new mixer

BiCho · Feb 20, 2005, 09:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by townkat

v016

-hopefully midi automation fixed (untested again)

MIDI automation is working better. But when I send value 127, the slider doesn't go to the top, but to 0db.

nice mixer, gets better everyday

radiocolonel.it · Feb 21, 2005, 11:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by townkat

v016

http://www.geocities.com/picacioiu/mixy4x2v016_3538.bin (rename to .kxl)
http://www.geocities.com/picacioiu/mixy4x2v016.jpg

-hopefully midi automation fixed (untested again)
-added solo checkboxes

HI, i'm a kx user and lately i'm trying to make some simple dsp. I found your mixer really usefulhttp://www.hardwareheaven.com/images/s...big%20grin.gif and i just would like to ask townkat if it is possible to add another output for Rec so we can send different levels to playback and to Recording.
Thanks again for your mixer!

Chester01 · Feb 21, 2005, 12:53 PM

if you need lower output to the card outputs, use a gainhq plugin

radiocolonel.it · Feb 21, 2005, 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chester01

if you need lower output to the card outputs, use a gainhq plugin

1) first of all in my post the question was for townkat
2) i know i can place a volume, a gain hq....
3) with 2 outputs one for playback and one for recording i think the mixer would be more complete
4) thanks anyway for you suggestion

thomasabarnes · Feb 21, 2005, 04:01 PM

People here just try to help somebody radiocolonel.it. That's all.

townkat · Feb 22, 2005, 12:05 AM

Hello, and sorry for not replying faster,

Thnx alot Chester01 and thomasabarnes for helping me answering the question.
Thnx alot radiocolonel.it for the question.

I am verry happy to see people use my mixer..i'll use it too soon

(i am away from my home studio now)

When i build it i was thinking not only that i need a separate volume for speakers and a separate one for recording but also separate mixes (different volume for each channel) for monitoring respectively for recording. So the ideea is to use 2 or many different mixers. I hope this is your situation too.

Also lowering the volume after the a/d convertors means digital information loose so if u use this for recording trough kx a/d convertors i recomend linking the mic.line-in... kx plugin (profx src or anything else like that) directly into recording kx plugin (like k1lt - winmm recording) and controll the level of signal inside the multitrack (or other type) software. Also the level at convertors should be very near to 0 but without clipping (i know everyone know this but...

.

My english is not verry good and i hope i understood your question and my reply is on topic.

cya..

P.S. i wont reply for 3-4 days from now on cause i'll be away.

Chester01 · Feb 22, 2005, 02:09 AM

everything is done in 32 bit i believe SO there shouldnt be too much of a quality loss... however you are correct townkat

radiocolonel.it · Feb 22, 2005, 10:41 AM

Thanks a lot townkat, right now i'm doing the way you said, thanks again for your answer.... i'm just loving this mixer!

townkat · Mar 1, 2005, 06:37 PM

v017

http://www.geocities.com/picacioiu/mixy4x2v017_3538.bin (rename to .kxl)

-fixed input limited to 0dB, now at +12dB
-using 2 registers less

edit: LeMury pls help more with saving text per instance cause i studyed ksettings but i still can't figure out how to do it..thnx alot

townkat · Mar 3, 2005, 11:44 PM

v018

All info and download at my new website.

http://www.geocities.com/picacioiu/

Help needed with saving strings per instance pls.

Nando Dominguez · Mar 4, 2005, 11:20 AM

>>Help needed with saving strings per instance pls.

What do you mean exactly? Saving a preset with the text introduced? If so it doesn't work here. When I load any different preset and load it back again, the text has disappeared and shows the default ones.

Nando

Rogacz · Mar 4, 2005, 11:31 AM

This mixer is very good!

Thanks!

Lex Nahumury · Mar 4, 2005, 11:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by townkat

edit: LeMury pls help more with saving text per instance cause i studyed ksettings but i still can't figure out how to do it..thnx alot

I'll send you a PM.

/LeMury

townkat · Mar 7, 2005, 11:55 PM

Mixy updated to v019

-channel names saving per-instance (still not saving with presets ).

http://www.geocities.com/picacioiu/mixy4x2v019_3538.bin

thnx again LeMury

SUN · Mar 9, 2005, 01:49 PM

Hi townkat,

just a report: With my UC33 Midi controller and the volume slider in the middle -
at 12 o'clock i get -50dB
at 3 o'clock 0dB and just a little bit more to the right i get distortion if i use a digital source :-(
Is there a way 4 better Handling with a Midi-Controller
(Log.-Curve or Buttons to activate 0/12dB max on the left and right of the [reset]-Buttons)?

Thanks,
SUN

townkat · Mar 9, 2005, 02:11 PM

hi,

"and just a little bit more to the right i get distortion if i use a digital source :-("
i don't understand this, pls try to give more informations
-if u turn your knowb more than 3 o'clock diesnt mixy fader move upper than 0?
-mixy faders already move on a logarithmic scale
-just that u selected an x to 0db scale (and not to 12db) for the vus and they show clipping at 0 desnt mean that u get distorsion, select an x to 12db scale and u'll see.

cya

SUN · Mar 9, 2005, 04:31 PM

Hi again townkat,

what i try to say is:
I cannot use your +12 dB version with my Midi-Controller because i need to have 0dB at max. Fader-position! The +12 version is to tricky to use around 80% of faderlevel...
4 my digital-signals 0dB is the maximum possible & usefull!
If you have a low micsignal +12dB is always good but not 4 my Wav or SPDIF-sources!

Thanks,
SUN

townkat · Mar 9, 2005, 06:41 PM

hi

- if u need bit-to-bit than why use mixers?
- i'll probably make it with selectable 0/+12 faders but i have some other priority right now so u'll probably have to wait a little
- mixy works in 1dB increments so your faders cannot escape int 0.5 or other non integers db values even if u use your external controler or your mouse.
- 0 - +12db signals only mean distorsion if they are measured at output plugins (line-out...) because of kx dsp arhitecture.

cya

SUN · Mar 10, 2005, 09:59 AM

Hi,

1.Tip: Look at a real hardware-Mixer:
Above the Mix-Slider there is always a Gain-Trimmer and/or switch!
A mixer is for mixing 2 or more signals :-)
like in my situation 4 DJing!

2. Ok, i'll wait 4 this great mixy-Version!!!

I'll be back!

Lex Nahumury · Mar 18, 2005, 06:05 PM

Towkat,

Regarding 'saving user text strings in Presets';

Next kX SDK release will support this according to Eugene.
In the mean time you can save the strings as params as I do now in new MX6.

/LeMury

townkat · Mar 18, 2005, 08:39 PM

thnx for the info, but.. r u sure?

Because i received from Eugene today this (i hope he don't mind that i post it here):
My question
"
>> will the next sdk going to support
>> storing strings as parameters (with presets etc.)?
"
Eugene answer
"
yes, it will (indirectly) -- there will be iKXPlugin:: functions
called on each save/restore settings. however, presets won't allow you
to save strings, only plugin settings.
"
Maybe i understood wrong but i understand from this that it will still not be posible to save strings with presets. Correct me if i'am wrong.

cya

Chester01 · Mar 28, 2005, 06:20 PM

hey, I just had a thought: wouldnt it be nice to see activity on peak meeters even when a channel is muted; we could have it invert the colors on the peak meeter or something when it is muted but atleast see that there is signal there... just an idea

townkat · Mar 30, 2005, 09:41 AM

yep... i would be nice..but not verry usefull i think

i am still thinking if mono checkbox on master strip is usefull enough to implement...

because sometimes is better not to have some options...they can distract you..

cya

ROBSCIX · Jun 2, 2005, 02:01 AM

Hey Townkat, ANy more thought to Skinning the entire Mixer, I know AOund and function is of utmost importance but skinned plugins in KX is SO amazing..if you wanted to do it I would imagine you would have lots of offers for artistic work..bitmaps and such..what do you think?

townkat · Jun 6, 2005, 12:23 AM

ROBSCIX - sorry to tell u this but i dont think i'll skin mixy too soon, it just do the job right now and i dont wanna mess it .

SUN - if u need +12 to be 0 db add an -12 reduction before mixy ( stereo volume at 25% should do that)

cya

townkat · Aug 22, 2006, 12:21 AM

updates for 3538k
http://www.geocities.com/picacioiu/

anyone still want me to make it skinable

?

ROBSCIX · Aug 22, 2006, 12:31 AM

Is that a joke or are you asking a serious question? -if so yes I love skinned PLugins as do alot of others.

Russ · Aug 22, 2006, 03:00 AM

Hi townkat

Just a thought, if you only update the peak labels ( vutextl/vutextr in OnTimer() ) when thier value changes, it would stop the flickering.

-Russ

townkat · Aug 22, 2006, 03:20 PM

flickering fixed, thnx for the tip

http://www.geocities.com/picacioiu/

next step, i'll try to make it skinable, someone cand help with an example for main window?..or better for sliders..

this way i create sliders, if it helps (it's in a for loop, i:1-5)

create_vslider(fdrvol[2*i-1], 2*i-2, d, -120, 12, vuleft[i-1]-31, vutop-31, 25, 290);

and this way i create the dialog window

create_dialog(plugin_name(mixy), 570, 460);

thnx

Feb 21, 2005, 12:53 PM	#63
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Feb 22, 2005, 12:05 AM	Thread Starter #66
townkat DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Romania Posts: 123 Rep Power: 0	Hello, and sorry for not replying faster, Thnx alot Chester01 and thomasabarnes for helping me answering the question. Thnx alot radiocolonel.it for the question. I am verry happy to see people use my mixer..i'll use it too soon (i am away from my home studio now) When i build it i was thinking not only that i need a separate volume for speakers and a separate one for recording but also separate mixes (different volume for each channel) for monitoring respectively for recording. So the ideea is to use 2 or many different mixers. I hope this is your situation too. Also lowering the volume after the a/d convertors means digital information loose so if u use this for recording trough kx a/d convertors i recomend linking the mic.line-in... kx plugin (profx src or anything else like that) directly into recording kx plugin (like k1lt - winmm recording) and controll the level of signal inside the multitrack (or other type) software. Also the level at convertors should be very near to 0 but without clipping (i know everyone know this but.... My english is not verry good and i hope i understood your question and my reply is on topic. cya.. P.S. i wont reply for 3-4 days from now on cause i'll be away. __________________ mixy kx plugins http://mixy.0fees.net/

Feb 22, 2005, 02:09 AM	#67
Chester01 HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: St. Cloud, MN Posts: 492 Rep Power: 0	everything is done in 32 bit i believe SO there shouldnt be too much of a quality loss... however you are correct townkat __________________ COMP: Dual Intel PIII 733 Mhz; GeForce 4 Ti 4600; 1.128 Gb RAM; SB0350 (Audigy 2 ZS Platnium) STEREO(I UPGRADED):Crown Audio K1 and K2 amplifiers (4000 watts at .1% THD ), JL 13w7 Subwoofer (6.5 CF) (2) 18" PR's, Klipsch SB-1's, some cement blocks for speaker stands...

Feb 22, 2005, 10:41 AM	#68
radiocolonel.it DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Italy Posts: 192 Rep Power: 0	thanks townkat Thanks a lot townkat, right now i'm doing the way you said, thanks again for your answer.... i'm just loving this mixer!

Mar 1, 2005, 06:37 PM	Thread Starter #69
townkat DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Romania Posts: 123 Rep Power: 0	v017 http://www.geocities.com/picacioiu/mixy4x2v017_3538.bin (rename to .kxl) -fixed input limited to 0dB, now at +12dB -using 2 registers less edit: LeMury pls help more with saving text per instance cause i studyed ksettings but i still can't figure out how to do it..thnx alot __________________ mixy kx plugins http://mixy.0fees.net/ Last edited by townkat; Mar 1, 2005 at 07:12 PM.

Mar 3, 2005, 11:44 PM	Thread Starter #70
townkat DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Romania Posts: 123 Rep Power: 0	v018 All info and download at my new website. http://www.geocities.com/picacioiu/ Help needed with saving strings per instance pls. __________________ mixy kx plugins http://mixy.0fees.net/

Mar 4, 2005, 11:20 AM	#71
Nando Dominguez DriverHeaven Addict Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Spain Posts: 280 Rep Power: 0	>>Help needed with saving strings per instance pls. What do you mean exactly? Saving a preset with the text introduced? If so it doesn't work here. When I load any different preset and load it back again, the text has disappeared and shows the default ones. Nando

Mar 4, 2005, 11:31 AM	#72
Rogacz Porcupine Floyd Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Poland Posts: 422 Rep Power: 0	This mixer is very good! Thanks! __________________

Mar 7, 2005, 11:55 PM	Thread Starter #74
townkat DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Romania Posts: 123 Rep Power: 0	Mixy updated to v019 -channel names saving per-instance (still not saving with presets ). http://www.geocities.com/picacioiu/mixy4x2v019_3538.bin thnx again LeMury __________________ mixy kx plugins http://mixy.0fees.net/

Mar 9, 2005, 01:49 PM	#75
SUN DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Made in Germany Posts: 50 Rep Power: 0	Hi townkat, just a report: With my UC33 Midi controller and the volume slider in the middle - at 12 o'clock i get -50dB at 3 o'clock 0dB and just a little bit more to the right i get distortion if i use a digital source :-( Is there a way 4 better Handling with a Midi-Controller (Log.-Curve or Buttons to activate 0/12dB max on the left and right of the [reset]-Buttons)? Thanks, SUN

Mar 9, 2005, 02:11 PM	Thread Starter #76
townkat DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Romania Posts: 123 Rep Power: 0	hi, "and just a little bit more to the right i get distortion if i use a digital source :-(" i don't understand this, pls try to give more informations -if u turn your knowb more than 3 o'clock diesnt mixy fader move upper than 0? -mixy faders already move on a logarithmic scale -just that u selected an x to 0db scale (and not to 12db) for the vus and they show clipping at 0 desnt mean that u get distorsion, select an x to 12db scale and u'll see. cya __________________ mixy kx plugins http://mixy.0fees.net/ Last edited by townkat; Mar 9, 2005 at 02:18 PM.

Mar 9, 2005, 04:31 PM	#77
SUN DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Made in Germany Posts: 50 Rep Power: 0	Hi again townkat, what i try to say is: I cannot use your +12 dB version with my Midi-Controller because i need to have 0dB at max. Fader-position! The +12 version is to tricky to use around 80% of faderlevel... 4 my digital-signals 0dB is the maximum possible & usefull! If you have a low micsignal +12dB is always good but not 4 my Wav or SPDIF-sources! Thanks, SUN

Mar 9, 2005, 06:41 PM	Thread Starter #78
townkat DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Romania Posts: 123 Rep Power: 0	hi - if u need bit-to-bit than why use mixers? - i'll probably make it with selectable 0/+12 faders but i have some other priority right now so u'll probably have to wait a little - mixy works in 1dB increments so your faders cannot escape int 0.5 or other non integers db values even if u use your external controler or your mouse. - 0 - +12db signals only mean distorsion if they are measured at output plugins (line-out...) because of kx dsp arhitecture. cya __________________ mixy kx plugins http://mixy.0fees.net/ Last edited by townkat; Mar 9, 2005 at 06:51 PM.

Mar 10, 2005, 09:59 AM	#79
SUN DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Made in Germany Posts: 50 Rep Power: 0	Hi, 1.Tip: Look at a real hardware-Mixer: Above the Mix-Slider there is always a Gain-Trimmer and/or switch! A mixer is for mixing 2 or more signals :-) like in my situation 4 DJing! 2. Ok, i'll wait 4 this great mixy-Version!!! I'll be back!

Mar 18, 2005, 06:05 PM	#80
Lex Nahumury DH Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 1,932 Rep Power: 64	Towkat, Regarding 'saving user text strings in Presets'; Next kX SDK release will support this according to Eugene. In the mean time you can save the strings as params as I do now in new MX6. /LeMury

Mar 18, 2005, 08:39 PM	Thread Starter #81
townkat DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Romania Posts: 123 Rep Power: 0	thnx for the info, but.. r u sure? Because i received from Eugene today this (i hope he don't mind that i post it here): My question " >> will the next sdk going to support >> storing strings as parameters (with presets etc.)? " Eugene answer " yes, it will (indirectly) -- there will be iKXPlugin:: functions called on each save/restore settings. however, presets won't allow you to save strings, only plugin settings. " Maybe i understood wrong but i understand from this that it will still not be posible to save strings with presets. Correct me if i'am wrong. cya __________________ mixy kx plugins http://mixy.0fees.net/

Mar 28, 2005, 06:20 PM	#82
Chester01 HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: St. Cloud, MN Posts: 492 Rep Power: 0	hey, I just had a thought: wouldnt it be nice to see activity on peak meeters even when a channel is muted; we could have it invert the colors on the peak meeter or something when it is muted but atleast see that there is signal there... just an idea __________________ COMP: Dual Intel PIII 733 Mhz; GeForce 4 Ti 4600; 1.128 Gb RAM; SB0350 (Audigy 2 ZS Platnium) STEREO(I UPGRADED):Crown Audio K1 and K2 amplifiers (4000 watts at .1% THD ), JL 13w7 Subwoofer (6.5 CF) (2) 18" PR's, Klipsch SB-1's, some cement blocks for speaker stands...

Mar 30, 2005, 09:41 AM	Thread Starter #83
townkat DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Romania Posts: 123 Rep Power: 0	yep... i would be nice..but not verry usefull i think i am still thinking if mono checkbox on master strip is usefull enough to implement... because sometimes is better not to have some options...they can distract you.. cya __________________ mixy kx plugins http://mixy.0fees.net/

Jun 2, 2005, 02:01 AM	#84
ROBSCIX DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 1,732 Rep Power: 0	Hey Townkat, ANy more thought to Skinning the entire Mixer, I know AOund and function is of utmost importance but skinned plugins in KX is SO amazing..if you wanted to do it I would imagine you would have lots of offers for artistic work..bitmaps and such..what do you think?

Jun 6, 2005, 12:23 AM	Thread Starter #85
townkat DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Romania Posts: 123 Rep Power: 0	ROBSCIX - sorry to tell u this but i dont think i'll skin mixy too soon, it just do the job right now and i dont wanna mess it . SUN - if u need +12 to be 0 db add an -12 reduction before mixy ( stereo volume at 25% should do that) cya __________________ mixy kx plugins http://mixy.0fees.net/

Aug 22, 2006, 12:21 AM	Thread Starter #86
townkat DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Romania Posts: 123 Rep Power: 0	updates for 3538k http://www.geocities.com/picacioiu/ anyone still want me to make it skinable ? __________________ mixy kx plugins http://mixy.0fees.net/

Aug 22, 2006, 12:31 AM	#87
ROBSCIX DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 1,732 Rep Power: 0	Is that a joke or are you asking a serious question? -if so yes I love skinned PLugins as do alot of others.

Aug 22, 2006, 03:00 AM	#88
Russ HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 5,563 Rep Power: 62	Hi townkat Just a thought, if you only update the peak labels ( vutextl/vutextr in OnTimer() ) when thier value changes, it would stop the flickering. -Russ

Aug 22, 2006, 03:20 PM	Thread Starter #89
townkat DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Romania Posts: 123 Rep Power: 0	flickering fixed, thnx for the tip http://www.geocities.com/picacioiu/ next step, i'll try to make it skinable, someone cand help with an example for main window?..or better for sliders.. this way i create sliders, if it helps (it's in a for loop, i:1-5) create_vslider(fdrvol[2i-1], 2i-2, d, -120, 12, vuleft[i-1]-31, vutop-31, 25, 290); and this way i create the dialog window create_dialog(plugin_name(mixy), 570, 460); thnx __________________ mixy kx plugins http://mixy.0fees.net/ Last edited by townkat; Aug 22, 2006 at 03:45 PM.