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Old Jan 24, 2005, 12:22 AM   #1
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just finished my new mixer

Hi, I just finished my new mixer v005 (i mean is fully functional, i'll keep work on it).
Here is a screenshot of it.
http://www.geocities.com/picacioiu/Mixy4x2.jpg
It is compiled for 3537.
The steps i do to make it work are :
1. Close kx mixer.
2. Open with winrar C:\Program Files\kX Project\3537\kxskin.kxs
3. Copy
http://www.geocities.com/picacioiu/vu0.jpg
http://www.geocities.com/picacioiu/vu1.jpg
in "Mixer" directory from winrar window.
4.Close Winrar
5. Download
http://www.geocities.com/picacioiu/mixy4x2v005.bin
and rename to mixy4x2v005.kxl
5. Run Kx mixer
6. Run mixy4x2v005.kxl
Thats all.

I dont know how to pack them in a kxl, if anyone can help...pls...

Alot of thnx to LeMury for his help!! Thank You!
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Old Jan 24, 2005, 04:04 PM   #2
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Nice.

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I dont know how to pack them in a kxl, if anyone can help...pls...
Rar your bitmaps + custom kxskin.ini into your.kxs.
Then simply concatenate your.kxl and your.kxs;

copy /b your.kxl + your.kxs

(See readme.txt in SDK for more details)

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Old Jan 24, 2005, 07:24 PM Threadstarter Thread Starter   #3
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Thnx LeMury,

Here is a new version, the only changes are the vu bitmaps, a little brighter..
http://www.geocities.com/picacioiu/Mixy4x2v006.jpg
http://www.geocities.com/picacioiu/mixy4x2v006.bin (rename to mixy4x2v006.kxl)

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Old Jan 24, 2005, 10:42 PM   #4
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gee i wish you would have compiled that for 3538... fyi, the 3538 driver seems to do much better with cpu useage and "vu meters" or any thing like that
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Old Jan 25, 2005, 12:05 AM Threadstarter Thread Starter   #5
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i dont know how to compile for 3538, i belive i need the 3538 sdk and as i know is not out yet, if anyone can help ...
i have switched from 3538 to 3537 just to be able to test the plugs i compile so...
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Old Jan 25, 2005, 02:42 AM   #6
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That's really nice. It amazes me that you guys can build these plug-ins and make it sound so simple.

If I may make one suggestion, although minor, you should have the right level arrow pointing the other way.

Great job though

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Old Jan 25, 2005, 02:52 AM   #7
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another idea, the kx drivers do have 12 db of "headroom" so it may make sense to make the "top" of the meters read out at +12 db, not 0 db, you can test the fact that it is 12 db by loading up two gain hq plugins, set them up in paralell, then add a peak to the end of the chain, DO NOT play this through your speakers that would be bad. anyways, the first gain hq in the chain needs to be at +60, the seccond needs to be at -12 db, as you will see on the peak meter, it will be at 0.0 db, which leads us to the conclusion that we have 12 db of headroom above 0.0 db anyways, it would be nice to see up to +12 db on the vu things

EDIT: in the little experiment i spoke of, you need to play some sort of music through it, preferably at a level above -30 db so you can see it work
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Old Jan 25, 2005, 02:28 PM Threadstarter Thread Starter   #8
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1." you should have the right level arrow pointing the other way."
I wanted it to do it right that way but i couldnt with kx standard controls i know how to use (i tried width negative -30 or something), when i'll find out how to do that be sure i'll do it.
2.the kx drivers do have 12 db of "headroom"...
Yep, i know, this is posible i belive because of the 10kx procesors calculate with 32bit.
The outs of mixy also dont stop at 0db like the vu's do.
I done it that way because i belive in digital domain the 0db should be the limit , it is the maximum safe value, i dont belive the a/d convertors can convert more than 0db anyway.
But i can modify it with no problem. Tell me also what the min value vus can read should be,
is -120 to low?

What i also whated to do and i dont know how is to make the vu text smaller and other color...anyone know how? thnx
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Old Jan 25, 2005, 06:58 PM   #9
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it looks very nice.
waiting for 3538 release.
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Old Jan 25, 2005, 07:49 PM   #10
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looks really nice. they could be thinner so they don't use so much screen space, IMHO.

I would love to see meters where you can change the range displayed, ie. -24db to 0db, -60 to +12db, -120 to 0db, etc.

Waiting for version 3538 here too.

Thanks for the great work!!
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Old Jan 26, 2005, 12:57 AM Threadstarter Thread Starter   #11
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i just uninstalled 3537 to install 3538 to build mixy for 3538 and all the files in sdk 3537 where deleted, my mixy project was there... and also its rar backup was there... so u'll have to wait a little for the 3538 mixy, i have to remake it all ...
sorry, my fault
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Old Jan 26, 2005, 02:34 AM   #12
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That's really sad!!!

I don't know if that should be considered your fault. I've uninstalled dozens of programs which hold my documents in their folder, and they never erased any document

Shouldn't this be considered a bug?
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Old Jan 26, 2005, 03:49 AM   #13
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.. I've uninstalled dozens of programs which hold my documents in their folder, and they never erased any document

Shouldn't this be considered a bug?
1. An SDK is not a program, so it doesn't produce any documents at all.
2. One may expect that a programmer is not a 'normal user' and at least knows were his sources reside on his hard disc.
3. format c: erases all data too. Shouldn't that be considered a bug too?

Nevertheless a pitty, but I'm sure Townkat will not make the same mistake twice
by putting his sources anywhere on c: and never in any SDK's install dir.

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Old Jan 26, 2005, 01:08 PM Threadstarter Thread Starter   #14
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be sure i'll not make the same mistake again ,
..i hope i'll remake it soon, anyway this is a good practicing c++ way to me ...
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Old Jan 27, 2005, 06:09 PM   #15
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System Specs

Food for thought:

LeMury is right about one thing -- it is not a bug. But I do not agree with him totally. I believe that this issue is a sign of a bad design.

Installer creates log of installed (copied) files. Uninstaller should not remove files that did not come from the installer. At least it should warn the user that there are other files that will be destroyed if he proceeds.
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Old Jan 27, 2005, 08:54 PM   #16
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....I believe that this issue is a sign of a bad design.
Well, I have never heard any active kX developer making an issue out of this.
TownKat also doesn't complain. (and he is the one who has to do the work)
So I think it's really funny to see users or non kX programmers turning this into an 'issue'.

All things aside; A programmer should never rely on some un/installer when it comes to the safety of his sources.
Even if it askes a hundred times for confirmation!

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here is v007
http://www.geocities.com/picacioiu/mixy4x2v007.jpg
http://www.geocities.com/picacioiu/mixy4x2v007.bin (rename to kxl)
edit: i forgot, it is compiled for 3538 now
It behave strange when mute is used with stereo link...
Vu range menu appears at right click in vu.
alot of thnx to LeMury

for who know c++
after i changed
"void iMixyPluginDlg::sync(int ndx)
{
char c[MAX_LABEL_STRING];
kxparam_t v;
int i;
switch(ndx)..."

into

"void iMixyPluginDlg::sync(int ndx)
{
char c[MAX_LABEL_STRING];
kxparam_t v;
int i;

if (ndx==EVERYPM_ID) // update all controls
{
for (i=0; i<5; i=i++)
if (ndx==i){..."

i get strange behaviour from some controlls, is it a must to use switch in this case? or my conversion is bad..
Pls tell me what should be the things to keep in mind when performing this conversion.
(an example would be great)
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Old Jan 31, 2005, 03:20 AM   #18
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good god I love this mixer thank you; an option between a gain and a "volume control" may be something to look into, from +12 db to -whatever.... or maybe have it be selectable what gains we want (like you can right click and select the range of the vu meters, you could select the range of gains)

EDIT: not taht I dont like volume controls its just that gains seem to give a much more versitle range over volume control, if I set it to 50 for volume, I only loose 6 db gain, also since I have a maximum peak readout at the top, it would be extremely nice to say "oh, my level is over by 4.3 db," and then adjust the gain 4.3 db down

EDIT2: It turns out that the readout caps off at 0.0 db (I can only see that I am at 0.0, not 1.4 or whatever), can this be fixed? sorry to be a bother
Re-Edit: My bad, when you select a range that is x - +12 db, you then can get readouts above 0.0 db sorry I didnt catch that at first
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v008
http://www.geocities.com/picacioiu/mixy4x2v008.bin (rename to kxl)
compiled for 3538
fixed strange behaviour when mute was used with stereo link..
learned how to convert from switch to if


"an option between a gain and a "volume control""
i dont like volume control too, i'll probably make it only gain from -120 to +12 without any selectable options

edit: http://www.geocities.com/picacioiu/m...008for3537.bin (rename to kxl)
this version is compiled for 3537 with 3537 libraries but is not tested so test it on your own risk and if u test it pls tell me if its working
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Old Feb 1, 2005, 09:06 AM   #20
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Hi townkat, first off wanted to say thanks for the great Mixer, its simplicity yet functionality is a really great addition to the fray of kX DSP Plugins.

I wanted to ask if you could also release an uncocatenated version, as I wanted to have a go at making and putting slightly different Vu Meters in. Maybe I can make up for my lacking C++ skills with a little basic Photoshop work.

That is not to say your VUs aren't esthetically pleasing, would just be a nice thing to play with (while I await the final release of 3538 final and the updated UFX plugins).
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" release an uncocatenated version"
I am not sure what do you mean. do u want me to post the entire c++ project?, or just the bitmaps so u can tweak in photoshop? if it's just the bitmaps u can find them in the kxl if u open it with winrar, when u tweak them in photoshop keep in mind not to modify the height.
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Old Feb 1, 2005, 10:19 AM   #22
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Ah sorry, my mistake, I just meant tweaking the bitmaps, I had made the error of making a copy of the kxl and renaming it to .rar and trying to open it that way (threw me an error).

Once I tried to just open the .kxl with winrar it worked, thanks. I will play with the VUs and post some shots later.

Once again great work townkat.
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Ok, for my first mini-mod I did Alpine style blue bar VUs.

Can be seen in action here:

http://nyquility.ny.funpic.de

I've only done the -120 to 0 db now because its the one I use. If anyone likes this and wants to use it, I can finish up the complete set and either upload an updated mixy kxl or pass my bitmaps over to townkat. He can then include them in his builds as he sees fit.
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really nice , did u made that in photoshop? i made mine in corel draw..
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Yes I used Photoshop but apart from the bevel on the background and the gradient used to create the color variation on the bars the rest is pixeled by hand.. I am a pixeler and not a graphic artist
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Thumbs Up!

That looks great! Please upload the bitmaps and/or an updated .kxl -- I, for one, would love to use it.

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Ok, for my first mini-mod I did Alpine style blue bar VUs.

Can be seen in action here:

http://nyquility.ny.funpic.de

I've only done the -120 to 0 db now because its the one I use. If anyone likes this and wants to use it, I can finish up the complete set and either upload an updated mixy kxl or pass my bitmaps over to townkat. He can then include them in his builds as he sees fit.
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Hi wonderbred! Thank you very much for liking it I will get the set finished up today and upload. Check back later.
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with gains instead of volume controls?
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dont hurry up do make your mod bitmaps cause i'll make the vus height smaller
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Well if you are redesigning anyway, how about together we have a go at fully skinning it? ;D
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