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Old Feb 23, 2006, 12:24 AM Threadstarter Thread Starter   #271
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..The SRC plugin has listings for the AC97/UDA inputs, i though there were removed in an earlier version as the ADC plugin made them redundant?
Yes, they are redundant and they shouldn't show up in SRC.
Hmm,... what card? 10k1 based or 10k2?
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Old Feb 23, 2006, 12:33 AM   #272
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10k2 based on two cards

however i should probably say that i misread earlier, the only one that's there is ac972/line2, which is still part of the ADC anyway right?
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.... but what happened to maybe having an MX8?

That would allow for a purely ProFX DSP setup (with the exception of FX Plugins) entailing Wave 0/1 (for WMP playback), 2/3, 4/5, 6/7, 8/9 (for MIDI, and all wave devices,), ADC for Mic and Line In, Plus 2 effects can be always enabled for FX Sends via the MX8. That would be great!
I thought I had explained that already.
Anyway, yes a mx8 would be nice but kX API has a limit of ~64 parameters per plugin.
Since I use a trick to store the Edit Label characters as parameters in the preset,
and the fact that MX6 itself already has 40 controls (= 40 parameters),
I can't squeeze an extra 2 channels out of it unless I dump the channel labels.

Eugene has added some extra storage feautures but IIRC they
reside in KXGUI which I dont use.

However, I may still have some trick up my sleave to solve this,
but it would be easier (for me) if Eugene increases the max num of params.
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10k2 based on two cards

however i should probably say that i misread earlier, the only one that's there is ac972/line2, which is still part of the ADC anyway right?
Aha, No, ac972/line2 is on extension board/bay/drive.
So SRC behaves correct then.
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if that's the case, there's also a listing for "Line2/Aux2" which is what i though would be the extension bay port
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I thought I had explained that already.
Anyway, yes a mx8 would be nice but kX API has a limit of ~64 parameters per plugin.
Since I use a trick to store the Edit Label characters as parameters in the preset,
and the fact that MX6 itself already has 40 controls (= 40 parameters),
I can't squeeze an extra 2 channels out of it unless I dump the channel labels.

Eugene has added some extra storage feautures but IIRC they
reside in KXGUI which I dont use.

However, I may still have some trick up my sleave to solve this,
but it would be easier (for me) if Eugene increases the max num of params.
Oh, OK I see. I do vaguely recall you mentioning something like that.
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Ok LeMury, if the previous APS bug was in the SRC then kXlt has always been ok, just that kind of a deja-vu I had and I related it to that old bug. If anything I can tell you that the installer version you released (2.1beta) listed A7/A8 twice in the list but otherwise worked ok.
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if that's the case, there's also a listing for "Line2/Aux2" which is what i though would be the extension bay port
Hmm,..now you got me doubting
and you could be right there.
Hmm,..Why the heck did I leave it there if that is UDA? (i'm getting old)
I'll look into it when I put back in some 10k2 card.
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Nice work LeMury. I like the new GUI, (and that minimized plugin thing bugged me too, so I am glad you changed that behavior).

Good stuff

ADC is missing the TAD input (not that I really use it or anything).
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Ok LeMury, if the previous APS bug was in the SRC then kXlt has always been ok, just that kind of a deja-vu I had and I related it to that old bug. If anything I can tell you that the installer version you released (2.1beta) listed A7/A8 twice in the list but otherwise worked ok.
Ok, but apart from the wrong labels, the outputs do work,.. right?

Anyway, here's an updated version to support APS;
http://members.home.nl/nahutec/kxplu...roFx_v3.01.zip

It contains both release and debug version.
If it works correctly for APS,
- kXlt should not display DOO switch
- preset list is empty
- has 1 "Not Used" output
- Micro code dump should read:
macints tmpl, 0x0, Out1L, 0x1;
macints tmpr, 0x0, Out1R, 0x1;
on the first two code lines.

Please let me know if it works (or not)!!

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Hi LeMury,

I just did a clean install of 3538J and the new ProFx. I can't open any of the plug-ins, either by double-clicking or right-click-tweak. I can get the other plug-ins to open and the original ProFx works. I can't figure out why, everything was fine before with 3538h and the newer Pro FX. Anyone else have this problem? I tried with both the release and debug versions, same result. I tried resetting device, and re-installed twice, still can't open the plug-ins.

I'm using the SB0060 with Win2k SP4.

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Hmm,.. it's probably win2k related.
Please wait untill other win2k users report the same ok?
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Nice work LeMury. I like the new GUI, (and that minimized plugin thing bugged me too, so I am glad you changed that behavior).

Good stuff

ADC is missing the TAD input (not that I really use it or anything).
Thanks.
Yep,..ADC has never had a TAD input and I don't miss it either .
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confirmed, hooked both the SRC set to AC97.2/Line2 and the ADC;s UDA outputs to seperate peakmeters, and ran a signal into the line in port on my audigy 2

both peak meters were identical
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I'll confirm it's related to Win2k (see thread above).I just tried the plug-ins on a WinXP lite set-up on another hard drive and they opened up no problem, and fast too I noticed. They look great. I hope you can fix this. Many thanks.

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confirmed, hooked both the SRC set to AC97.2/Line2 and the ADC;s UDA outputs to seperate peakmeters, and ran a signal into the line in port on my audigy 2
both peak meters were identical
OK, so theoreticly we can remove AC97.2/Line2 from SRC.
Still wondering why I left it there in the firts place though.
Probably just forgot about it.
Thanks for the checking.
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Thanks for the checking.
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Ok, but apart from the wrong labels, the outputs do work,.. right?

Anyway, here's an updated version to support APS;
http://members.home.nl/nahutec/kxplu...roFx_v3.01.zip

It contains both release and debug version.
If it works correctly for APS,
- kXlt should not display DOO switch
- preset list is empty
- has 1 "Not Used" output
- Micro code dump should read:
macints tmpl, 0x0, Out1L, 0x1;
macints tmpr, 0x0, Out1R, 0x1;
on the first two code lines.

Please let me know if it works (or not)!!

/LeMury
By now I had tasted the outs with 3.0. They work fine also with 3.01. Still I couldn't test A7/A8, sorry. I've got nothing connected to them and would have to open the case, pull out the card and mess with those little GND pins, that gets me a little nervous at 3:00 AM. I'll try sometime later, or maybe someone with a MOC card to test?

Oh and thank you for the extra work of removing DOO and the new "Not Used" entry. Wasn't really needed at all.

About the Microcode Dump, I think I get something different:

Code:
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	 macints 	 KX_OUT(0x0),  0x0,  Out1L,  0x4;
	 macints 	 KX_OUT(0x1),  0x0,  Out1R,  0x4;
	 macints 	 KX_OUT(0x2),  0x0,  Out2L,  0x4;
	 macints 	 KX_OUT(0x3),  0x0,  Out2R,  0x4;
	 macints 	 KX_OUT(0x4),  0x0,  Out3L,  0x4;
	 macints 	 KX_OUT(0x5),  0x0,  Out3R,  0x4;
	 macints 	 KX_OUT(0x6),  0x0,  Out4L,  0x4;
	 macints 	 KX_OUT(0x7),  0x0,  Out4R,  0x4;
	 macints 	 tmpl,  0x0,  Out5L,  0x1;
	 macints 	 tmpr,  0x0,  Out5R,  0x1;
	 macints 	 KX_OUT(0x11),  0x0,  Out6L,  0x4;
	 macints 	 KX_OUT(0x12),  0x0,  Out6R,  0x4;
	 macints 	 KX_OUT(0xa),  0x0,  Out7L,  0x4;
	 macints 	 KX_OUT(0xb),  0x0,  Out7R,  0x4;
	 macints 	 KX_OUT(0x8),  0x0,  tmpl,  0x4;
	 macints 	 KX_OUT(0x9),  0x0,  tmpr,  0x4;

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Microcode is ok, and no need to rip open you PC at 3.00 am.
So does kXlt now display the correct APS Output names?
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I also have win2k and 3538J, and can't tweak or double-click the ProFX plug-ins.
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Win2K users please try ProFx v3.02:

http://members.home.nl/nahutec/kxplu...roFx_v3.02.zip

and let me know if it is fixed.

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Fixed !
Magnificent !
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Fixed !
Magnificent !
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Yes, they now open for me too. You're the best LeMury, thanks.

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I also tested they work fine for my SB0400...I like the new look...thx for taking the time to put them together for us...Really appreciated.
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I also tested they work fine for my SB0400...I like the new look...thx for taking the time to put them together for us...Really appreciated.
Yes, the GUI looks nice with the buttons, but I have to say I miss the LED indicators as in the .3537 or .3538H versions for channel Record, Main, an Enable and such. But thanks a bunch LeMury, we have a great ProFX pack with a great full driver installation package. And, I'm grateful!
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...we have a great ProFX pack with a great full driver installation package. And, I'm grateful!
Completely agree
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Completely agree
I say those LED indicators made ProFX look really professional, and I would slap that nice perormance and Professional look in the face of the Cakewalk SONAR users who speak badly about the Creative sound cards, and I tell them when using the kX Project Audio Driver and a compatible card, it's an entirely different situation cause the music production potential of kX is noteworthy when you only have in mind what you could do with the Creative drivers and software!!!!!!!!
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Yes, the GUI looks nice with the buttons, but I have to say I miss the LED indicators...
Yes, those color thingies give a more direct visual feedback on switch state.
However I must draw some 'Leds' first that match with the rest/background.
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