NEW: ProFx (3538) Update Incl. MX6 and AC97

Lex Nahumury · Mar 4, 2006, 03:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Tril

I would like it. I use the QuickLaunch bar a lot.

have you already tried this (or missed that post?);
http://www.hardwareheaven.com/showpost...&postcount=370

Tril · Mar 4, 2006, 04:01 AM

I tried it but you were talking about being able to do the same thing with plugins tweak windows, at least that's what I understood.

Would it be possible to force the DSP window on top when executing kxdsp.exe?
Would it be possible to maximize the DSP window if it is minimized when executing kxdsp.exe?

Can you tell me how it's programmed? How does it work? Is it using something from the kX SDK?

Lex Nahumury · Mar 4, 2006, 06:05 AM

Quote:

I tried it but you were talking about being able to do the same thing with plugins tweak windows, at least that's what I understood.

Not easy, but should be possible.
However, as mentioned, launching an effect from any menu would still take 2 mouseclicks.

Quote:

Could it be possible to force the DSP window on top when executing kxdsp.exe?
Would it be possible to maximize the DSP window if it is minimized when executing kxdsp.exe?

Possible yes, but there's no convenient way of doing so.
Tricky to say the least and not worth the trouble IMO.

Quote:

Can you tell me how it's programmed? How does it work? Is it using something from the kX SDK?

see kxmixer.h

/Lex.

Russ · Mar 4, 2006, 07:03 AM

Did you release the new Peak8 plugin yet? I did not think so, but the info on your webpage makes it look as though it is included in ProFX 3.x (and as far as I can tell, it is not, as of yet).

BTW: It looks great... Should be very useful.

**dj_stick** · Mar 4, 2006, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by thomasabarnes

I think I remember what you're referring to Robscix. I think one was for the 10 band EQ as well. I also think I remember Lex (former LeMury) saying some of the plugins were someone else's work, so he wouldnt make them public because he didnt know if they would consent to that. Or something like that.

Does this sound familiar?

EDIT:

Here's the thread I'm speaking about. The skined Reverb Lt pic is in this thread too closer to the begining of the thread: http://driverheaven.net/showthread.p...6&page=4&pp=15

Heck here are some pics:

http://members.home.nl/nahutec/kxplugins/new_look.PNG

http://members.home.nl/nahutec/kxplugins/new_looks.PNG

And here's the conversation I was taling about:

those skins look professional, awesome aesthetics there

miguel · Mar 4, 2006, 02:28 PM

Hey Lex, the multipeak looks nice, I can't tell from the screencapture but did you make the channel labels editable? I think it's an important feature.

About reskinning some of the stock plugins... well I'd rather cast by vote that you invest that time in improving/updating some of your other synths. I'll gladly do my best at skinning those as you suggested the other day. Designing those from scratch appleals me greatly. But do what you please, please

regards

Lex Nahumury · Mar 4, 2006, 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by miguel

Hey Lex, the multipeak looks nice, I can't tell from the screencapture but did you make the channel labels editable? I think it's an important feature.

Hey there Miquel,..yeah but those edit boxes would get very small.
Not enough width for any text, and spreading the meters further apart is not an option.

Quote:

Originally Posted by miguel

About reskinning some of the stock plugins... well I'd rather cast by vote that you invest that time in improving/updating some of your other synths. I'll gladly do my best at skinning those as you suggested the other day. Designing those from scratch appleals me greatly.

I agree. Besides, one doesn't exclude the other here.
Asynth is in desperate need for an update so Yes let me know if, when and how
so we can discuss the technical details.

/Lex

Lex Nahumury · Mar 4, 2006, 03:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Russ

Did you release the new Peak8 plugin yet? I did not think so.....

I was about to, but then something came up.

Russ · Mar 4, 2006, 03:11 PM

I figured it was somthing like that. Just wanted to be sure that I did not miss something (i.e. downloaded a cached copy of an older version or something, instead of the latest). In any case, I look forward to being able to use them, as I really do use multiple peak meters frequently.

miguel · Mar 4, 2006, 03:36 PM

Well, even if the edit boxes are tiny, the idea came because I'd like them named 0 to 15 for fxbus monitoring. But then 1 to 8 was ok too

SoI thought that with editable boxes there'd be no need for such request. This is just a minor thing, no big deal, really.

For the synths I'll mail you pretty soon, I promise.

Lex Nahumury · Mar 4, 2006, 04:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by miguel

Well, even if the edit boxes are tiny, the idea came because I'd like them named 0 to 15 for fxbus monitoring. But then 1 to 8 was ok too

SoI thought that with editable boxes there'd be no need for such request. This is just a minor thing, no big deal, really.

Ok ,I'll add editboxes instead, but they will be just wide enough to hold just a few digits.

Russ · Mar 4, 2006, 05:06 PM

One feature that I thought was missing from the kX Peak Meters, was the ability to rename the tweak window. You could rename the plugin, but the tweak window's title bar stayed the same, and I always thought that it would be much more useful, if the title bar reflected the new name, so when you are moniting the signal (and had renamed the plugin to reflect which signal it is), you could see this info, in the title bar of the tweak window, etc (i.e. when you activate the window from Windows taskbar, you cannot be sure which one it is, if you are using multiple ones). I think it would be great if your PEAK8 meter had this ability. The editable labels sound cool, but in some cases it would be easier to just rename the plugin to reflect the connections (and have something in the tweak window reflect the new name, whether it be the title bar, or a label or whatever (obviously, you would not want it resize the tweak window, so you would have to limit the text, but I think it would be useful, and there should be some room for it in the title bar)). In any case, just an idea.

ROBSCIX · Mar 4, 2006, 05:15 PM

Hey LEX those default plugins you did were great!! Too bad if others didn't notice they were there all you had to do was read the thread...YOu mentioned you used these for your personal use and modified them somwhat..I am also with Stick I kinda liked the Black also...had much more propfessional look that is not to say I don't like the new PROFX I like them very much...U gonna do a black version? similar to the other release?

Lex Nahumury · Mar 4, 2006, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Russ

I figured it was somthing like that.

Yeah I got distracted
when I ran into some weird VS2005Express/PSDK compatibility issue.
What compiler version did you use again? VC7 or VC8?

Lex Nahumury · Mar 4, 2006, 05:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Russ

One feature that I thought was missing from the kX Peak Meters, was the ability to rename the tweak window. You could rename the plugin, but the tweak window's title bar stayed the same, and I always thought that it would be much more useful, if the title bar reflected the new name, so when you are moniting the signal (and had renamed the plugin to reflect which signal it is), you could see this info, in the title bar of the tweak window, etc (i.e. when you activate the window from Windows taskbar, you cannot be sure which one it is, if you are using multiple ones). I think it would be great if your PEAK8 meter had this ability. The editable labels sound cool, but in some cases it would be easier to just rename the plugin to reflect the connections (and have something in the tweak window reflect the new name, whether it be the title bar, or a label or whatever (obviously, you would not want it resize the tweak window, so you would have to limit the text, but I think it would be useful, and there should be some room for it in the title bar)). In any case, just an idea.

Yes, I can understand the need for that in single Peak, but in case of the Peak8 I see little use in custom-renaming it's WindowTiltle.
But to be honest, I don't like user-renaming WindowTitle in general for a variatie of reasons. The fact that user can rename dsp_wnd tiltle should suffice.

Russ · Mar 4, 2006, 05:49 PM

When I did my testing, I used VC++ .NET 2003, which I believe is VC7.
Which file is giving you trouble? iirc, I had to modify plgmath.h and kDefs.h to do some things, but that was some time ago, and was with 3538h (not sure what has changed since then).

Lex Nahumury · Mar 4, 2006, 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Russ

When I did my testing, I used VC++ .NET 2003, which I believe is VC7.

Yep that's VC7 and used to work fine for me also( untill it expired).
It's as if executables build with VC8 require some extra (newer)
OS updates/features/SPs etc for them to work properly.
Oh well, I'll figure it out after some good night rest.

[EDIT]
No, it's nothing with the kX headers&stuff , that's easy.
The builds run fine on the xp partition I made them,
but won't run at all on some other xp partition.
(yes, all vc8 dlls are there too)

Russ · Mar 4, 2006, 06:04 PM

Expired? I guess you are talking about an older Express Edition or something? I have VC++ .NET 2003 Standard Edition (retail). In any case, I am sure you will figure it out.

<edit>
Did you check it with Dependancy Walker?

Lex Nahumury · Mar 4, 2006, 06:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Russ

Expired? I guess you are talking about an older Express Edition or something? I have VC++ .NET 2003 Standard Edition (retail). In any case, I am sure you will figure it out.

<edit>
Did you check it with Dependancy Walker?

Yep an older 2003 Express Edition, no retail.
Yep, checked with DepWalker, it reports the dll is 'totaly messed up';
"side by side comparison error ..bla..bla"
I think I'm goin to bed. Not feeling to well, which also isn't exactly the best
condition to solve such matters

.

[Rectification]
It was a 2005 Beta trial that got expired.

townkat · Mar 6, 2006, 03:30 AM

Hi, just wanted to THANK YOU !!! Lex,
i am am using the new proFX version and its working great.

cya

Lex Nahumury · Mar 6, 2006, 06:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by townkat

Hi, just wanted to THANK YOU !!! Lex,
i am am using the new proFX version and its working great. cya

Your welcome.
I just made some more code optimization and re-compiled it with .NET optimizing Compiler.
The plugs run even faster now and consume hardly any cpu.

townkat · Mar 6, 2006, 11:18 AM

, nice,

Be carefull Lex, you are on the level that if you optimize more the plugs can start to generate CPU power by themself, i just don't want you to have problems with the processors producers

btw, i hope you feel ok now

cya

Lex Nahumury · Mar 6, 2006, 02:09 PM

Yeah, feeling a bit better now. Thanks!

Lex Nahumury · Mar 6, 2006, 06:20 PM

Update: ProFx v3.04 Release Build (compiled for 3538j)

http://members.home.nl/nahutec/ProFx/profx3x.htm

- removed: kXGUI/MFC dependancy
- Peak meter Release Speed added
- ADC 'Clip Indicator' added
- LED graphics provided by Miquel.M
- Peak8 Multi-channel peak meter added
- overall code optimization

Installation;
Remove/delete any previous profx_xxx.kxl file
Unzip and register the new .KXL file.

Please report any bugs,

/Lex.

[EDIT]forgot:
- Peak8 labels are editable and stored in preset.
Peak8 meter settings are set for all 8 channels and are also stored in preset.
- Overall (mx6, adc and peak8) peak release times changed (bit faster)

bzdang · Mar 6, 2006, 06:37 PM

Thank-you! I will try it out later (after work) but I'm excited about the Peak8 and the clip indication, very good !

Russ · Mar 6, 2006, 07:10 PM

ADC and MX6 window's do not open, and eventually cause kxmixer to crash (some time after unloading the plugin and closing the DSP window).

The rest seem to work ok.

I really like the nice and compact Peak8 window. I did not realize that it was 8 stereo channels. How about a Peak4 for those times when you do not need 16 inputs?

BTW: I am using WinXP Pro SP2

<edited to add more info>

**dj_stick** · Mar 6, 2006, 07:11 PM

profx: peak8 goes missing, turns up in at the bottom of the first list, not in the profx menu

Lex Nahumury · Mar 6, 2006, 07:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dj_stick

profx: peak8 goes missing, turns up in at the bottom of the first list, not in the profx menu

That is correct. Only Eugene can add extra items to the fx submenus.

But do you experience the same as Russ?

Lex Nahumury · Mar 6, 2006, 07:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Russ

ADC and MX6 window's do not open, and eventually cause kxmixer to crash (after unloading the plugin).
The rest seem to work ok.

That is too weird.
After a clear dsp add MX6/ADC manualy and check the info. It should read 3.04.
3538 does not always unregister plugs correctly.
Let me know.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Russ

I really like the nice and compact Peak8 window. I did not realize that it was 8 stereo channels. How about a Peak4 for those times when you do not need 16 inputs?

And a Peak2 for those times when you do not need 8 inputs

.

Russ · Mar 6, 2006, 07:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lex Nahumury

That is too weird.
After a clear dsp add MX6/ADC manualy and check the info. It should read 3.04.
3538 does not always unregister plugs correctly.
Let me know.

Yes it reads "ProFx v3.04 -Release Build (3538j)" and clearing the DSP did not help.
I also tried rebooting and that didn't help either.

Quote:

And a Peak2 for those times when you do not need 8 inputs

.

Why not, they are great

Mar 4, 2006, 05:06 PM	#402
Russ HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 5,563 Rep Power: 62	One feature that I thought was missing from the kX Peak Meters, was the ability to rename the tweak window. You could rename the plugin, but the tweak window's title bar stayed the same, and I always thought that it would be much more useful, if the title bar reflected the new name, so when you are moniting the signal (and had renamed the plugin to reflect which signal it is), you could see this info, in the title bar of the tweak window, etc (i.e. when you activate the window from Windows taskbar, you cannot be sure which one it is, if you are using multiple ones). I think it would be great if your PEAK8 meter had this ability. The editable labels sound cool, but in some cases it would be easier to just rename the plugin to reflect the connections (and have something in the tweak window reflect the new name, whether it be the title bar, or a label or whatever (obviously, you would not want it resize the tweak window, so you would have to limit the text, but I think it would be useful, and there should be some room for it in the title bar)). In any case, just an idea. Last edited by Russ; Mar 4, 2006 at 05:20 PM. Reason: typo... I do not know why I always mess up the word multiple

Mar 4, 2006, 05:49 PM	#406
Russ HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 5,563 Rep Power: 62	When I did my testing, I used VC++ .NET 2003, which I believe is VC7. Which file is giving you trouble? iirc, I had to modify plgmath.h and kDefs.h to do some things, but that was some time ago, and was with 3538h (not sure what has changed since then). Last edited by Russ; Mar 4, 2006 at 05:54 PM.

Mar 4, 2006, 06:04 PM	#408
Russ HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 5,563 Rep Power: 62	Expired? I guess you are talking about an older Express Edition or something? I have VC++ .NET 2003 Standard Edition (retail). In any case, I am sure you will figure it out. <edit> Did you check it with Dependancy Walker? Last edited by Russ; Mar 4, 2006 at 06:09 PM.

Mar 6, 2006, 03:30 AM	#410
townkat DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Romania Posts: 123 Rep Power: 0	Hi, just wanted to THANK YOU !!! Lex, i am am using the new proFX version and its working great. cya __________________ mixy kx plugins http://mixy.0fees.net/

Mar 6, 2006, 11:18 AM	#412
townkat DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Romania Posts: 123 Rep Power: 0	, nice, Be carefull Lex, you are on the level that if you optimize more the plugs can start to generate CPU power by themself, i just don't want you to have problems with the processors producers btw, i hope you feel ok now cya __________________ mixy kx plugins http://mixy.0fees.net/

Mar 4, 2006, 04:01 AM	#392
Tril S-3D enthusiast Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 1,676 Rep Power: 64 System Specs	I tried it but you were talking about being able to do the same thing with plugins tweak windows, at least that's what I understood. Would it be possible to force the DSP window on top when executing kxdsp.exe? Would it be possible to maximize the DSP window if it is minimized when executing kxdsp.exe? Can you tell me how it's programmed? How does it work? Is it using something from the kX SDK?

Mar 4, 2006, 07:03 AM	#394
Russ HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 5,563 Rep Power: 62	Did you release the new Peak8 plugin yet? I did not think so, but the info on your webpage makes it look as though it is included in ProFX 3.x (and as far as I can tell, it is not, as of yet). BTW: It looks great... Should be very useful.

Mar 4, 2006, 02:28 PM	#396
miguel DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 209 Rep Power: 0	Hey Lex, the multipeak looks nice, I can't tell from the screencapture but did you make the channel labels editable? I think it's an important feature. About reskinning some of the stock plugins... well I'd rather cast by vote that you invest that time in improving/updating some of your other synths. I'll gladly do my best at skinning those as you suggested the other day. Designing those from scratch appleals me greatly. But do what you please, please regards

Mar 4, 2006, 03:11 PM	#399
Russ HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 5,563 Rep Power: 62	I figured it was somthing like that. Just wanted to be sure that I did not miss something (i.e. downloaded a cached copy of an older version or something, instead of the latest). In any case, I look forward to being able to use them, as I really do use multiple peak meters frequently.

Mar 4, 2006, 03:36 PM	#400
miguel DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 209 Rep Power: 0	Well, even if the edit boxes are tiny, the idea came because I'd like them named 0 to 15 for fxbus monitoring. But then 1 to 8 was ok too SoI thought that with editable boxes there'd be no need for such request. This is just a minor thing, no big deal, really. For the synths I'll mail you pretty soon, I promise.

Mar 4, 2006, 05:15 PM	#403
ROBSCIX DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 1,732 Rep Power: 0	Hey LEX those default plugins you did were great!! Too bad if others didn't notice they were there all you had to do was read the thread...YOu mentioned you used these for your personal use and modified them somwhat..I am also with Stick I kinda liked the Black also...had much more propfessional look that is not to say I don't like the new PROFX I like them very much...U gonna do a black version? similar to the other release?

Mar 6, 2006, 02:09 PM	Thread Starter #413
Lex Nahumury DH Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 1,932 Rep Power: 64	Yeah, feeling a bit better now. Thanks!

Mar 6, 2006, 06:20 PM	Thread Starter #414
Lex Nahumury DH Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 1,932 Rep Power: 64	Update: ProFx v3.04 Release Build (compiled for 3538j) http://members.home.nl/nahutec/ProFx/profx3x.htm - removed: kXGUI/MFC dependancy - Peak meter Release Speed added - ADC 'Clip Indicator' added - LED graphics provided by Miquel.M - Peak8 Multi-channel peak meter added - overall code optimization Installation; Remove/delete any previous profx_xxx.kxl file Unzip and register the new .KXL file. Please report any bugs, /Lex. [EDIT]forgot: - Peak8 labels are editable and stored in preset. Peak8 meter settings are set for all 8 channels and are also stored in preset. - Overall (mx6, adc and peak8) peak release times changed (bit faster) Last edited by Lex Nahumury; Mar 6, 2006 at 06:55 PM.

Mar 6, 2006, 06:37 PM	#415
bzdang DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Toronto Canada Posts: 36 Rep Power: 0	Thank-you! I will try it out later (after work) but I'm excited about the Peak8 and the clip indication, very good !

Mar 6, 2006, 07:10 PM	#416
Russ HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 5,563 Rep Power: 62	ADC and MX6 window's do not open, and eventually cause kxmixer to crash (some time after unloading the plugin and closing the DSP window). The rest seem to work ok. I really like the nice and compact Peak8 window. I did not realize that it was 8 stereo channels. How about a Peak4 for those times when you do not need 16 inputs? BTW: I am using WinXP Pro SP2 <edited to add more info> Last edited by Russ; Mar 6, 2006 at 07:29 PM.