NEW: ProFx (3538) Update Incl. MX6 and AC97

Russ · Aug 2, 2008, 11:54 PM

Kristal works fine for me (ASIO In and Out) using an all ProFx config, so maybe it is a 10k2 issue only?

Does ASIO work for you at all (with any program) using ProFx (it would be odd if it worked in one program but not another)?

Doug W · Aug 3, 2008, 12:34 AM

Russ,

ASIO works fine with the default DSP but not ProFX. The cards in this computer are SB0090 Audigy 1 and SB0350 Audigy 2 ZS, so maybe it is a 10k2 / ProFX / ASIO issue since Audacity, WMP, and Tiny Wave editor work fine with the custom DSP. I guess I will try Kristal with MME devices and ProFX.

Thanks for your help,
Doug

Doug W · Aug 3, 2008, 12:45 AM

Russ,

You were right. I switched to an MME device in Kristal and the DSP works fine. I wonder if I am the only one with ProFX / ASIO issues?

Thanks,
Doug

Russ · Aug 3, 2008, 12:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doug W

Russ,

You were right. I switched to an MME device in Kristal and the DSP works fine. I wonder if I am the only one with ProFX / ASIO issues?

Thanks,
Doug

It is probably somehow related to the new 24 bit stuff... Of course if another 10k2 user could verify it would be good...

In any case, it is probably just an issue with the SRC plugins using Fxbus, so the best workaround would be to use FxBus instead of SRC. The rest of the ProFx plugins should be OK (assuming ASIO input works correctly for you).

BTW: Check the ASIO Control panel and verify that it is set for 16 bit when using ProFx [COLOR=Gray](as I think 10k2 cards have 24 bit option now? I do not know, I am just guessing here... just check the settings and see if there is anything there that might make a difference)[/COLOR].

Doug W · Aug 3, 2008, 01:39 AM

Russ,

I had to use FXBusX, then MX6 and k2LT worked. I was about to try out the ProFXADC when my daughter took over the computer. I will check back when my daughter gets tired but for sure ProFXSRC ASIO is not working on my setup.

Thanks for your help,
Doug

Doug W · Aug 3, 2008, 08:03 PM

Quote:

From Russ: In any case, it is probably just an issue with the SRC plugins using Fxbus

While preparing my 2 card setup with the 3544a drivers, I found that ProFXSRC does not function for FXBus outs (per Russ), but appears to work for other functions. Using ProFXSRC as SPDIF ins (SB0090-Host Card) from the SPDIF outs (SB0350-Client Card) works properly.

Here is my current 2 card DSP setup for 3544a:

Host Card
http://webpages.charter.net/drw46/ex...090-record.jpg

Client Card
http://webpages.charter.net/drw46/ex...350-record.jpg

Russ · Aug 3, 2008, 08:35 PM

Yeah, that is what I figured...

So regular FxBus [COLOR=Gray](or whichever FxBus plugin the default config used with your card(s) in previous versions of kX)[/COLOR] does not work for ASIO output either?

I wonder if maybe 16 bit ASIO was dropped in favor of 24 bit (or maybe it is just a kX bug (I had thought that 24 bit was optional)) with non-10k1 models...

Did you check the ASIO Control Panel for new formats (i.e. to see if it offers both 16 bit and 24 bit options, etc)?

Doug W · Aug 3, 2008, 09:20 PM

Quote:

So regular FxBus [COLOR=gray](or whichever FxBus plugin the default config used with your card(s) in previous versions of kX)[/COLOR] does not work for ASIO output either?

FXBusX was the only one that worked for me.

Quote:

Did you check the ASIO Control Panel for new formats (i.e. to see if it offers both 16 bit and 24 bit options, etc)?

Yes I tried out all the options. There are 2 24 bit options. I haven't tried recording in 24 bit yet but here are the options offered:

10kX 16 bit/48 kHz (16+16)
10kX 16 bit/44.1 kHz (16+0)
10kX 16 bit/48 kHz (8+8)
10kX 16 bit/44.1 kHz (8+0)
10kX 16 bit/48 kHz (2+2)
10kX 16 bit/44.1 kHz (2+0)
10k2 24 bit/48 kHz (8+0)
10k2 24 bit/48 kHz (8+8)

Russ · Aug 3, 2008, 09:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doug W

FXBusX was the only one that worked for me.

I wonder if that is intentional... You might want to post a bug report about that since it is likely the same issue effecting the SRC plugins (with Fxbus).

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doug W

Yes I tried out all the options. There are 2 24 bit options. I haven't tried recording in 24 bit yet but here are the options offered:

Thanks for the info.

I think this is probably a kX bug, since E. mentioned "If you are using FXBus and FXBus2, you won't get 24-bit!", but he did not say anything about ASIO output not working at all with those plugins (of course this assumes that other 10k2 users are having same issue).

Doug W · Aug 4, 2008, 12:57 AM

I just checked the default DSP for 3544a and it does use FXBusX. I will mention it in the bug reports hoping that Lex sees it and has time to get around to updating ProFX for 3544a.

Russ · Aug 4, 2008, 02:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doug W

I just checked the default DSP for 3544a and it does use FXBusX. I will mention it in the bug reports hoping that Lex sees it and has time to get around to updating ProFX for 3544a.

Sorry, what I meant was, report that ASIO output no longer works using FxBus and FXBus2 with your card(s), not necessarily anything about ProFx:SRC, since it is probably the same issue for all the them.

i.e.
Assuming this is a kX bug, Lex should not have to update the SRC plugins unless he wants to add 24 bit support. If it is not bug, but rather a new feature, well then that is a different story, and I do not know (again it does work with my 10k1 card).

Maddogg6 · Aug 4, 2008, 06:14 AM

Confirmed - Latest ProFx:SRC no longer allows ASIO playback with kX V3544a. Damn - I wish I tested the bundled version of ProFx:Src - but I didnt. Sorry.

Edit: Also, ProFx ASIO doesnt work for 24 bit either - only left channel is recorded. /edit
Edit again - ProFx:ASIO Doesnt work for 16 bit either now. - only left channel gets recorded. /edit again

Lex Nahumury · Aug 6, 2008, 05:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Russ

Assuming this is a kX bug, Lex should not have to update the SRC plugins unless he wants to add 24 bit support. If it is not bug, but rather a new feature, well then that is a different story, and I do not know (again it does work with my 10k1 card).

That is correct.
Best to wait untill Eugene is done and take things from there.
No guarantee though. For all I care this is the end of profx I/O plugins.(at least for 10k2)
The 'normal' profx plugins are not affected of course as is probably ADC.

zambz · Aug 15, 2008, 11:17 PM

Lex,

It seems that the link to download is not working anymore. I'm anxious to try.

Thanks,

Z.

Lex Nahumury · Aug 16, 2008, 06:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zambz

Lex,

It seems that the link to download is not working anymore. I'm anxious to try.

Thanks,

Z.

It should work now.
Please try again.
http://members.home.nl/nahutec/ProFx/profx3x.htm

zambz · Aug 18, 2008, 11:41 PM

Worked Perfectly!

Thanks a lot.

Zambz

Lex Nahumury · Aug 26, 2008, 02:32 PM

Update: ProFx 3.09 for kX driver version 3545

- support for 24-bit features
- support for SB022x (rear outputs issue fixed)

Download (hit F5 to refresh page if needed):
ProFx Version 3.x

/Lex.

PS:
Thanks Russ and maddog6 for the comprehensive tests .

Russ · Aug 26, 2008, 05:48 PM

Thanks Lex

Doug W · Aug 26, 2008, 06:41 PM

Thanks for the work Lex.

BiCho · Aug 26, 2008, 07:27 PM

niiice. however, ASIO and SRC were working fine in the last version. were they working only on 16 bit? do Max M's plugins work in 16 or 24 bits?

JGSF · Aug 26, 2008, 07:44 PM

Thank you!

Lex Nahumury · Aug 26, 2008, 08:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BiCho

niiice. however, ASIO and SRC were working fine in the last version.

On 10k1 they worked (of course), on 10k2 however they didn't.

Quote:

Originally Posted by BiCho

do Max M's plugins work in 16 or 24 bits?

All audio plugins in the DSP work in 24-bit. (well, 32-bit actually)
The only exception is audio data on XTram delay lines which are compressed down to 16-bit.

SUN · Aug 26, 2008, 09:24 PM

Many Thanks 4 your update Lex...!!!

Most of us can't live wo them ;-)

SUN

Maddogg6 · Aug 26, 2008, 09:41 PM

Thank *you* Lex.

djsubject · Aug 29, 2008, 02:14 PM

i'm a noob

can anyone tell me how to remove the old pro kx plugins so i can run these new ones

Subz

Maddogg6 · Aug 29, 2008, 06:14 PM

You *should* not need to - installing new ones overwrite the old ones (or updates them, what ever)

**Eugene Gavrilov** · Sep 11, 2008, 12:21 AM

hi Lex! Thanks for updating the plugins for 24-bit. You don't mind if I add the .kxl to the next driver release? (And also add missing ProFX GUIDs to 'categories.ini')?

E.

Lex Nahumury · Sep 14, 2008, 05:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eugene Gavrilov

You don't mind if I add the .kxl to the next driver release? (And also add missing ProFX GUIDs to 'categories.ini')? E.

ok.

Lex Nahumury · Apr 20, 2009, 02:30 AM

- added Side Outputs to K2LT

Download:
ProFx Version 3.x

Bugs, comments etc. here please.

TravelRec. · Apr 20, 2009, 08:21 AM

Thank you Lex. Will test the plug, if I´m back home this evening.

Aug 2, 2008, 11:54 PM	#631
Russ HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 5,507 Rep Power: 61	Kristal works fine for me (ASIO In and Out) using an all ProFx config, so maybe it is a 10k2 issue only? Does ASIO work for you at all (with any program) using ProFx (it would be odd if it worked in one program but not another)? Last edited by Russ; Aug 2, 2008 at 11:59 PM.

Aug 3, 2008, 01:39 AM	#635
Doug W HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Montevideo, MN USA Posts: 973 Rep Power: 0	Russ, I had to use *FXBusX, then MX6 and k2LT worked. I was about to try out the ProFXADC when my daughter took over the computer. I will check back when my daughter gets tired but for sure ProFXSRC ASIO* is not working on my setup. Thanks for your help, Doug Last edited by Doug W; Aug 3, 2008 at 02:13 AM.

Aug 4, 2008, 06:14 AM	#642
Maddogg6 Tail Razer Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Bernyurass, AZ - USA Posts: 4,027 Rep Power: 50	Confirmed - Latest ProFx:SRC no longer allows ASIO playback with kX V3544a. Damn - I wish I tested the bundled version of ProFx:Src - but I didnt. Sorry. Edit: Also, ProFx ASIO doesnt work for 24 bit either - only left channel is recorded. /edit Edit again - ProFx:ASIO Doesnt work for 16 bit either now. - only left channel gets recorded. /edit again Last edited by Maddogg6; Aug 4, 2008 at 06:29 AM.

Aug 15, 2008, 11:17 PM	#644
zambz DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 2 Rep Power: 0	Broken link Lex, It seems that the link to download is not working anymore. I'm anxious to try. Thanks, Z.

Aug 18, 2008, 11:41 PM	#646
zambz DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 2 Rep Power: 0	Worked!!!! Worked Perfectly! Thanks a lot. Zambz

Aug 3, 2008, 12:34 AM	#632
Doug W HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Montevideo, MN USA Posts: 973 Rep Power: 0	Russ, ASIO works fine with the default DSP but not ProFX. The cards in this computer are SB0090 Audigy 1 and SB0350 Audigy 2 ZS, so maybe it is a 10k2 / ProFX / ASIO issue since Audacity, WMP, and Tiny Wave editor work fine with the custom DSP. I guess I will try Kristal with MME devices and ProFX. Thanks for your help, Doug

Aug 3, 2008, 12:45 AM	#633
Doug W HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Montevideo, MN USA Posts: 973 Rep Power: 0	Russ, You were right. I switched to an MME device in Kristal and the DSP works fine. I wonder if I am the only one with ProFX / ASIO issues? Thanks, Doug

Aug 3, 2008, 08:35 PM	#637
Russ HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 5,507 Rep Power: 61	Yeah, that is what I figured... So regular FxBus [COLOR=Gray](or whichever FxBus plugin the default config used with your card(s) in previous versions of kX)[/COLOR] does not work for ASIO output either? I wonder if maybe 16 bit ASIO was dropped in favor of 24 bit (or maybe it is just a kX bug (I had thought that 24 bit was optional)) with non-10k1 models... Did you check the ASIO Control Panel for new formats (i.e. to see if it offers both 16 bit and 24 bit options, etc)?

Aug 4, 2008, 12:57 AM	#640
Doug W HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Montevideo, MN USA Posts: 973 Rep Power: 0	I just checked the default DSP for 3544a and it does use FXBusX. I will mention it in the bug reports hoping that Lex sees it and has time to get around to updating ProFX for 3544a.

Aug 26, 2008, 02:32 PM	Thread Starter #647
Lex Nahumury DH Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 1,930 Rep Power: 62	Update: ProFx 3.09 for kX driver version 3545 - support for 24-bit features - support for SB022x (rear outputs issue fixed) Download (hit F5 to refresh page if needed): ProFx Version 3.x /Lex. PS: Thanks Russ and maddog6 for the comprehensive tests . Last edited by Lex Nahumury; Aug 26, 2008 at 05:59 PM. Reason: kudos

Aug 26, 2008, 05:48 PM	#648
Russ HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 5,507 Rep Power: 61	Thanks Lex

Aug 26, 2008, 06:41 PM	#649
Doug W HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Montevideo, MN USA Posts: 973 Rep Power: 0	Thanks for the work Lex.

Aug 26, 2008, 07:27 PM	#650
BiCho Audiotecna- Representante Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Bogota, Colombia Posts: 171 Rep Power: 0	niiice. however, ASIO and SRC were working fine in the last version. were they working only on 16 bit? do Max M's plugins work in 16 or 24 bits? __________________ Audiotecna - Innovación Musical Native Instruments and Moog Music official distribution for Colombia

Aug 26, 2008, 07:44 PM	#651
JGSF HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 452 Rep Power: 0	Thank you!

Aug 26, 2008, 09:24 PM	#653
SUN DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Made in Germany Posts: 50 Rep Power: 0	Many Thanks 4 your update Lex...!!! Most of us can't live wo them ;-) SUN

Aug 26, 2008, 09:41 PM	#654
Maddogg6 Tail Razer Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Bernyurass, AZ - USA Posts: 4,027 Rep Power: 50	Thank you Lex.

Aug 29, 2008, 02:14 PM	#655
djsubject HardwareHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 63 Rep Power: 0	i'm a noob can anyone tell me how to remove the old pro kx plugins so i can run these new ones Subz

Aug 29, 2008, 06:14 PM	#656
Maddogg6 Tail Razer Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Bernyurass, AZ - USA Posts: 4,027 Rep Power: 50	You should not need to - installing new ones overwrite the old ones (or updates them, what ever)

Sep 11, 2008, 12:21 AM	#657
Eugene Gavrilov kX Project Lead Programmer and Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 3,106 Rep Power: 73	hi Lex! Thanks for updating the plugins for 24-bit. You don't mind if I add the .kxl to the next driver release? (And also add missing ProFX GUIDs to 'categories.ini')? E.

Apr 20, 2009, 02:30 AM	Thread Starter #659
Lex Nahumury DH Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 1,930 Rep Power: 62	Update! ProFx 3.10 (3545 only) - added Side Outputs to K2LT Download: ProFx Version 3.x Bugs, comments etc. here please.

Apr 20, 2009, 08:21 AM	#660
TravelRec. Alternative Audioproductions Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Germany / Sachsen-Anhalt Posts: 1,710 Rep Power: 56	Re: NEW: ProFx (3538) Update Incl. MX6 and AC97 Thank you Lex. Will test the plug, if I´m back home this evening. __________________ Always take a look behind.