NEW: ProFx (3538) Update Incl. MX6 and AC97

Lex Nahumury

Use this one:
http://members.home.nl/nahutec/ProFx/ProFx310_45.rar

Unless you have specific reasons to stick with an older driver version
it's generaly better to use the latest driver version.
Not because it's always 'better' perse, but those are the versions I will update/support/add feaures/bugfix ProFx for in the future.

/Lex.

Lex Nahumury

IIRC, the newer MX6 mixer uses different (hopefully better) mixing microcode then the old mx6, so it's not only about the nicer GUI and per channel PeakMeters.
If you're not running low on DSP resources I'd suggest you stick with the newer MX6.

Yes, that is indeed "relatively easy" but quite some work.

I had plans to update the entire ProFx package GUI Framework so I'll add "pre/post send switches" to the ToDo list.

Lex Nahumury

I really doubt that using ProFx (or any other plugin for that matter) is a cure for solving audio glitches.
Can you remember were that was said?

Yes, the included (older, non skinned) ProFx plugins are always compiled for their corresponding platforms x86 or x64 and thus should work 'out if the box'.

I realize this situation can be confusing to new users but that's just the way it is for now and partialy because of the Host -> 3th-party-Plugin architecture.
Pretty much the same as with VST-Host -> 3th-party-VST-Plugin architecture.

/Lex

Lex Nahumury

Good

krylko

It was suggested here. You're right, using ProFx did not solve my problem with audio glitches. Switching from Master Mixer to WaveOut 2/3 did. But, I decided to stick with included ProFX plugins since playback seems a lot snappier than with FXBus and epilog. This might sound subjective, but that's my experience so far. I honestly can't wait til you get an x64 gig and release newer versions of ProFX for x64.

Thanks, it makes a lot more sense now!

janez

I tried the 3550 driver on an old test machine with an 4830 value card and couldnīt make it play any sounds. I tried to connect an src to the mx6 and also straight with the output, but nothing...
So I went back to the 3545 driver which works fine.

Tyrsonswood

Were you using the latest ProFx, or the bundled ones? With 3550 you want the lates ones that Lex posted above, the bundled versions may not work. I did a DSP last night and it worked straight away.

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Lex Nahumury

What do you mean exactly?
No sound at all (with default DSP), or no sound whilst using latest ProFx plugins?

That is all too weird.

janez

I used the bundled ProFX plugins. That might be it, as I donīt remember for sure whether the first test to play a file was with the default setup or whether I straight went to wiring up something in the DSP Window.

Btw. this seems to be an old Dell OEM Card (4830). The Installation Process didnīt recognize the card, and I had to guide the Windows Driver Installation Process to the .inf file by hand and show it the card type.
As I said, it worked perfectly fine after that with the version 3545.

Tyrsonswood

I've got one of those exact cards, not installed at the moment, but I could pop it in a system and try it. As you say this card worked with 3545...... should work with these. The older versions always loaded correct drivers no problem for me, did they for you?

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janez

After I directed the installation process to the .inf file it showed a 4832 as a compatible card. I made it show all cards and selected the 4830 as it is printed on the card, and it worked. That was with 3545
In 3550 it seemed to only allow a kx generic driver.

Tyrsonswood

I've always used the 4832 as that is the Dell OEM number, or "an OEM" number, from what I understand. It's always worked for me. It could, still just be the ProFX version you were using though.....

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janez

I guess so. Somewhere in some other thread I read that in a case like that you might have some cosmetic differences but still the full functionality. When installing the 3550 driver at least I made shure to pick a 10k1 profile.
Iīll try again one of these days and update the profx plugins, too.

janez

I just tried again. Same procedure. The card was not recognized, I picked a generic KX profile and it installed 3550.
Apparently it has to do with ProFx. I could play a file via the default DSP Setup and it worked. But when I tried to register profx 310_48 it said "Error invalid Progam library.
Is that the latest version of profx?

Lex Nahumury

Anyone else experiencing problems with latest ProFx 310_48 using 3550 driver 32-bit x86?

/Lex

HellsAngel84

Need help.
I want to automute speakers, then I'm plugging headphones in my LiveDrive. I can do it whith standart DSP, but I want to use ProFX. How to configure DSP for this?
(Sorry for bad english)

Tyrsonswood

No issues here Lex. I've got 3 machines running 3550 and your ProFX310_48 plugins, one of them I did not use ProFX yet but they did register fine, the other two machines your plugins work great........ (Just a simple DSP for testing)

@janez ..... one of the two above has the 4830 card, it installed fine for me and KX called it a 4831, it did use a "generic" driver automatically I noticed. Works as expected with default DSP and the ProFX....... soundfonts as well. I don't know where the difference would be between our two cards......


XP 32 bit and Win7 32bit. One machine with 3 gig ram, all 3 machines "older" but very different from each other so I have a lot of variables covered.

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janez

The first try with 3550 was with the bundled Profx plugins
This time, during the installation process I disabled the installation of profx as I was going to register the new version later on anyhow
Does that make a difference?
This is all under WinXp Sp2 btw

Tyrsonswood

I never disabled the bundled profx install, just reg the new ones after KX is installed, it's never given me a problem doing it that way. I put the plugins in the directory I want them, right click on the file and choose "Register" from the dropdown menu.... it's always worked for me.

You're unzipping the .rar to ProFX310_48.kxl before trying to reg the plugins, right? (some readers might miss that, who knows)

I'm on XP sp3, but I doubt sp version makes any diff......

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Lex Nahumury

If you recieve the message ""Error invalid Progam library"
when you try to register a plugin, it means almost always a mismatch between the kX Driver version and the Plugin version you try to register.
ProFx 3.10_48 however *is* compatible with 3550 (I just checked myself) so there must
be something else going wrong in your particulair case.

Btw, unrecognized/corrupted/weird card IDs are usualy not a problem with kX and any plugin as long as the card is supported by kX.

/Lex.

Lex Nahumury

You probably can't.
ProFx kxlt plugin doesn't react upon headphone/speaker notifications from driver.

janez

I just un- and reinstalled the driver again and included the profx Plugins this time. Now the bundled profx does work, but when I try to update with ProFx310_48 it still says ""Error invalid Progam library". Maybe I made some kind of mistake in the wiring the first time. But that doesnīt explain why the new file wonīt register.
And of course I unzipped or rather unrared it first. Good point, but I did that already.
I even downloaded the file again.
strange

3550 is a cool update btw, some more categories in the plugin menu and the integration of the modular synth and the micoreffects.... nice
But the "Plugins in Uniform" donīt seem to be included.
I downloaded UFX 1.54.3539 and it also wonīt install. It says it needs a driver version 3538 or later. I have 3550 installed.
I tried to install Version 3538 and it installed, but when I try to add a plugin in the dsp window I get an Error message.

Tyrsonswood

That is strange because it registered no problem for me....... I never checked the bundled version myself.

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Russ

You are using the x86 (32 bit) version of kX, right?

You will also get the invalid plugin library error if you try to use a 32 bit plugin on the 64 bit version of kX (or vice versa).

ProFx310_48 is for the 32 bit version of kX only.

Lex Nahumury

You got us really curious now janez!
Are you using 64 bit driver version??

PS:
Forget about ufx for now.
IIRC it hasn't been updated a long time and "3538 or later"
doesn't mean it works with current >354x versions.

janez

the filename is kxdrv3550-x86-full.exe. Sounded right to me. What does IIRC stand for?
Thanx for all your feedback
Janez

Lex Nahumury

IIRC; If I Recall Correctly.
Yep, file sounds about right.
Let us know when you solved it cuz this is all too weird, lol.

Russ

Do you have MSVCR80.DLL?

Lex Nahumury

Ah, yes that might be it!
Most windows users have it already installed through windows update etc.
(I'll see if I can compile without that dependancy)

Janez, you can get Dependancy walker here;
Dependency Walker (depends.exe) Home Page
Just load the profxxxx.kxl and It will show if you have MSVCR80.DLL missing.

Russ

@Lex,

BTW: I am not sure if you are aware of this, but the MX6/MX8 peak meters do not register the negative side of waveforms.