NEW: ProFx (3538) Update Incl. MX6 and AC97

Russ · Feb 3, 2006, 10:27 PM

Yes, that is a known issue, and it is the same with 3538j.

thomasabarnes · Feb 8, 2006, 09:38 AM

Hey LeMury:

Any plans for releasing the New ProFX version for .3538j? Or are you just gonna wait for .3538 final before you make the new ProFx version available?

Lex Nahumury · Feb 8, 2006, 01:29 PM

ProFx will probably be re-written not just re-compiled.
When, is a matter of (free)time, not a matter of any new driver version release.

Russ · Feb 8, 2006, 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeMury

ProFx will probably be re-written not just re-compiled.
When, is a matter of (free)time, not a matter of any new driver version release.

Any chance of doing just a recompile until you have time to re-write it? (I miss the ADC plugin in particulair).

ROBSCIX · Feb 8, 2006, 04:36 PM

I agree, I have to use a ADC where I cannot even see the sliders! thats how much I like that plugin...why did it mess up like that in 3538i anyhow? just curious.

Maddogg6 · Feb 8, 2006, 06:38 PM

I'll 4th this one... but I COMPLETELY understand the lack of time...
I also really miss the updated MX 6 too.

Maddogg6 · Feb 8, 2006, 06:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ROBSCIX

I agree, I have to use a ADC where I cannot even see the sliders! thats how much I like that plugin...why did it mess up like that in 3538i anyhow? just curious.

I use prolog myself - may I ask why you are 'forced' to use ADC?

ROBSCIX · Feb 8, 2006, 07:06 PM

Not forced I just got used to using it in older versions and it became part of alot of my effect setups for my guitar..if functions and all just can't see everything..I guess it happens to everybody and in version 3538j as well...thats all

Maddogg6 · Feb 8, 2006, 09:06 PM

Yes - that version wasn't supposed to be included with 3538J.

I reverted back to Prolog for that reason - well, I'll use SRC too - But I also reverted back to epilog so I can use my MM keyboard to control volume/mute with it.

ROBSCIX · Feb 8, 2006, 09:11 PM

well hopefully everything will be fixed in th final version

thomasabarnes · Feb 8, 2006, 09:12 PM

Man, ADC makes possible Mic and Line In simultaneous mono recording!!!! That's the usefulness and fantastic feature about ADC!!! Without ADC, one can only record either Mic or Line In, not both simultaneously (to separate tracks).

LeMury:

I'm with Russ. That's why I inquired about if you would release a version of the new ProFX for .3538j. It takes so long in between driver releases, and it would really be nice if you did release the new ProFX for .3538j til you complete the newly written ProFX plug ins.

You know we'll continue greatly appreciating you for it.

Maddogg6 · Feb 8, 2006, 10:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thomasabarnes

Man, ADC makes possible Mic and Line In simultaneous mono recording!!!! That's the usefulness and fantastic feature about ADC!!! Without ADC, one can only record either Mic or Line In, not both simultaneously (to separate tracks).

Oh yes, I remember reading this...

(ps - obviously not a feature I would use personally)

townkat · Feb 10, 2006, 03:14 PM

tomorow i have a recording to do and i need separate mic/line recording so ill just have to rool back to 3538h,

LeMury, please compile it for 3538j, or at least for i (actualy my plugin compiled for i also works for j),

thnx

ROBSCIX · Feb 10, 2006, 08:18 PM

well the ADC still works just you cannot see the sliders..but other than that it all works...so I would just us it instead of rolling back..see I can't rool back because all previous version are incompatible with my new card SB0400. SO I waited until KX supported this card adn went and picked it up..

townkat · Feb 10, 2006, 08:30 PM

yup, thnx, its true, this is the way i am using it now

ROBSCIX · Feb 10, 2006, 08:47 PM

even if lemury couls just patch up the AC97 for us for now that would be great!! so how about it lemury could you do that? patch up the graphic issues? I imagine alot of guys would thank you for it and it would make waiting for your next version a little easier...thx

townkat · Feb 10, 2006, 10:57 PM

i agree

thomasabarnes · Feb 11, 2006, 01:39 AM

LeMury:

Hiya guy. My Internet expires in April, so I hope you would release a new ProFX before then. I dont know if or when I could get Internet again, so I'm pleading with you to release something before April, if time permits.

Cya, Thomas

Lex Nahumury · Feb 22, 2006, 06:46 PM

ProFx v3.0 (compiled for 3538j)

Screenshot:
http://members.home.nl/nahutec/kxplugins/pfx3_shot.PNG

Download links on first post!

- removed: kXGUI and MFC dependancy

Notes:
- Since I wrote the entire GUI framework
from scratch using plain win32 api only,
user should experience faster GUI load times
and less CPU usage.
(i.e. the 8 Peak meters in MX6 should consume
hardly any CPU time)

- Allthough compiled for 3538j it is
very likely it will also work on future 3538 driver releases.
(because it doesn't use KXGUI)
It will NOT work on 3537 or earlier because
it uses some of the newer 3538 api features.

- You are free to choose which build to use.
Theoreticly the Release build should work fine,
but since everything in kX is Debug release...bla bla bla.

- Note that the old MX6 does not get overwritten.
You'll find the new MX6 in the ProFx section
using the GUID of old k2lt.
Previously saved DSP-setups have to be re-wired.

I did not have the time to check everything,
so please report any bugs.

/LeMury

EDIT:
Installation; Just unzip and register the .KXL file that's all.

thomasabarnes · Feb 22, 2006, 07:00 PM

LeMury:

Thank you so much!!!! Looks and sounds great!!! Great work! Off to install.

EDIT

All works great, and all plugins can be renamed, too! That's very nice! Thanks LeMury for all your work and consideration toward us!

Oh yeah, GUI loading is like instantaneous! It takes like a second for other plugin GUIs to load, but these new ProFX plugins load instantaneously! The ability to rename the MX6 channels is great, too!

ROBSCIX · Feb 22, 2006, 07:01 PM

Your the Man...Thx Lemury.. I really appreciate your effort releasing these plugins for everybody. Again thx. NOw if we can just get Max on the bandwagon all would be great...thx

miguel · Feb 22, 2006, 07:56 PM

Well done!
Thanks much LeMury

miguel · Feb 22, 2006, 08:11 PM

LeMury, kXlt shows wrong names for the APS card, it displays names as for a live! card, I think. I'll test the individual outs later. The SRC works great, though.

Other than that the plugins run very fast, great!

Maddogg6 · Feb 22, 2006, 08:22 PM

BRAVO!

VERY NICE INDEED.

Thank you very much LeMury.

Lex Nahumury · Feb 22, 2006, 08:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by miguel

LeMury, kXlt shows wrong names for the APS card, it displays names as for a live! card, I think. I'll test the individual outs later. The SRC works great, though.

Miquel, can you tell me which previous ProFx kXlt version showed APS names correctly?
I need that info since I can not test/verify it myself.

miguel · Feb 22, 2006, 09:03 PM

I think it was the version you released with an installer, was it for 3538h? The version that comes with j works ok but being older, maybe not as useful to know about.

I seem to remember reporting a similar bug but I think it happened with SRC, not sure, sorry.

Lex Nahumury · Feb 22, 2006, 09:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thomasabarnes

All works great, and all plugins can be renamed, too! That's very nice! Thanks LeMury for all your work and consideration toward us!http://www.hardwareheaven.com/images/s...big%20grin.gif Oh yeah, GUI loading is like instantaneous! It takes like a second for other plugin GUIs to load, but these new ProFX plugins load instantaneously! The ability to rename the MX6 channels is great, too!http://www.hardwareheaven.com/images/s...big%20grin.gif

GUI loading could even be more faster if I would refrain from using an exe compressor.
BTW try;
- right-click on the titlebar. Gives context menu with "keep visible" and "Open DSP".
-Same on the taskbar icon. (God knows how often we have to open the DSP right?)
Also;
- If a plug is already opened but minimized, doubleclicking on it's DSP window
will now restore it and bring the plug in the foreground.
(too many times I've doubleclicked in the DSP window to try open a plug that
was already opened but minimized and,... nothing happend

)
- saving a preset now presents the current preset name (unless it has been closed/re-opened). Handy for saving 'lookalike' presets.
- save/delete preset Dialogs now respond to Enter/Cancel keys like it should.

Anyway, ... glad you like it but be prepared for some bugs too.
(can't write an entire framework from scratch whithout producing some bugs)

Lex Nahumury · Feb 22, 2006, 09:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by miguel

The version that comes with j works ok but being older, maybe not as useful to know about.

I seem to remember reporting a similar bug but I think it happened with SRC, not sure, sorry.

Yes, that was with SRC (see your name in first post of this thread).

Anyway, np, shouldn't be to hard to fix kXlt but I like I said, I need you or another APS owner
to test and report back.

**dj_stick** · Feb 22, 2006, 10:33 PM

LeMury, looks very professional, nice work

edit:The SRC plugin has listings for the AC97/UDA inputs, i though there were removed in an earlier version as the ADC plugin made them redundant?

thomasabarnes · Feb 22, 2006, 11:11 PM

"GUI loading could even be more faster if I would refrain from using an exe compressor.
BTW try;
- right-click on the titlebar. Gives context menu with "keep visible" and "Open DSP".
-Same on the taskbar icon. (God knows how often we have to open the DSP right?)"

Keep Visible and Open DSP are nice features (we have Russ' PluginQL Addon to help in this area, too).

"Also;
- If a plug is already opened but minimized, doubleclicking on it's DSP window
will now restore it and bring the plug in the foreground.
(too many times I've doubleclicked in the DSP window to try open a plug that
was already opened but minimized and,... nothing happend

)"

Yes, that was a pain in the butt. I would have to minimize the DSP to get the plugin GUI to show agian. Nice work on fixing this problem!

"- saving a preset now presents the current preset name (unless it has been closed/re-opened). Handy for saving 'lookalike' presets."

That's convenient.

"- save/delete preset Dialogs now respond to Enter/Cancel keys like it should."
Cool, it works with the Esc and Enter keys of the keyboard.

"Anyway, ... glad you like it but be prepared for some bugs too.
(can't write an entire framework from scratch whithout producing some bugs)"

I will post here, if I find any bugs.

Hey, not to try to disturb you or any thing, but what happened to maybe having an MX8? That would allow for a purely ProFX DSP setup (with the exception of FX Plugins) entailing Wave 0/1 (for WMP playback), 2/3, 4/5, 6/7, 8/9 (for MIDI, and all wave devices,), ADC for Mic and Line In, Plus 2 effects can be always enabled for FX Sends via the MX8. That would be great!

Anyway, I'm not pressuring you, was just asking if you were still considering making a MX8. Thanks for all your work, LeMury! I wont forget you.

Feb 8, 2006, 09:38 AM	#242
thomasabarnes Long Time ***** Friend Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: USA Posts: 1,375 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	Hey LeMury: Any plans for releasing the New ProFX version for .3538j? Or are you just gonna wait for .3538 final before you make the new ProFx version available? __________________ May a song always touch you in a positive way. SONAR X1D Expanded, Windows 7 Pro 64Bit, MOTU UltraLite MK3, 150 GB HDD, 250 GB HDD, 1 TB x2 HDD 7200 rpm My Music Production: Top 40, Contemporary Christian, Pop/Rock, Decent Rap, Inspirationals, and Children Songs

Feb 8, 2006, 09:12 PM	#251
thomasabarnes Long Time ***** Friend Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: USA Posts: 1,375 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	Man, ADC makes possible Mic and Line In simultaneous mono recording!!!! That's the usefulness and fantastic feature about ADC!!! Without ADC, one can only record either Mic or Line In, not both simultaneously (to separate tracks). LeMury: I'm with Russ. That's why I inquired about if you would release a version of the new ProFX for .3538j. It takes so long in between driver releases, and it would really be nice if you did release the new ProFX for .3538j til you complete the newly written ProFX plug ins. You know we'll continue greatly appreciating you for it. __________________ May a song always touch you in a positive way. SONAR X1D Expanded, Windows 7 Pro 64Bit, MOTU UltraLite MK3, 150 GB HDD, 250 GB HDD, 1 TB x2 HDD 7200 rpm My Music Production: Top 40, Contemporary Christian, Pop/Rock, Decent Rap, Inspirationals, and Children Songs

Feb 10, 2006, 03:14 PM	#253
townkat DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Romania Posts: 123 Rep Power: 0	tomorow i have a recording to do and i need separate mic/line recording so ill just have to rool back to 3538h, LeMury, please compile it for 3538j, or at least for i (actualy my plugin compiled for i also works for j), thnx __________________ mixy kx plugins http://mixy.0fees.net/ Last edited by townkat; Feb 10, 2006 at 04:09 PM.

Feb 10, 2006, 08:30 PM	#255
townkat DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Romania Posts: 123 Rep Power: 0	yup, thnx, its true, this is the way i am using it now __________________ mixy kx plugins http://mixy.0fees.net/

Feb 10, 2006, 10:57 PM	#257
townkat DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Romania Posts: 123 Rep Power: 0	i agree __________________ mixy kx plugins http://mixy.0fees.net/

Feb 3, 2006, 10:27 PM	#241
Russ HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 5,561 Rep Power: 62	Yes, that is a known issue, and it is the same with 3538j.

Feb 8, 2006, 01:29 PM	Thread Starter #243
Lex Nahumury DH Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 1,932 Rep Power: 64	ProFx will probably be re-written not just re-compiled. When, is a matter of (free)time, not a matter of any new driver version release.

Feb 8, 2006, 04:36 PM	#245
ROBSCIX DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 1,732 Rep Power: 0	I agree, I have to use a ADC where I cannot even see the sliders! thats how much I like that plugin...why did it mess up like that in 3538i anyhow? just curious.

Feb 8, 2006, 06:38 PM	#246
Maddogg6 Tail Razer Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Bernyurass, AZ - USA Posts: 4,027 Rep Power: 0	I'll 4th this one... but I COMPLETELY understand the lack of time... I also really miss the updated MX 6 too.

Feb 8, 2006, 07:06 PM	#248
ROBSCIX DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 1,732 Rep Power: 0	Not forced I just got used to using it in older versions and it became part of alot of my effect setups for my guitar..if functions and all just can't see everything..I guess it happens to everybody and in version 3538j as well...thats all

Feb 8, 2006, 09:06 PM	#249
Maddogg6 Tail Razer Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Bernyurass, AZ - USA Posts: 4,027 Rep Power: 0	Yes - that version wasn't supposed to be included with 3538J. I reverted back to Prolog for that reason - well, I'll use SRC too - But I also reverted back to epilog so I can use my MM keyboard to control volume/mute with it.

Feb 8, 2006, 09:11 PM	#250
ROBSCIX DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 1,732 Rep Power: 0	well hopefully everything will be fixed in th final version

Feb 10, 2006, 08:18 PM	#254
ROBSCIX DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 1,732 Rep Power: 0	well the ADC still works just you cannot see the sliders..but other than that it all works...so I would just us it instead of rolling back..see I can't rool back because all previous version are incompatible with my new card SB0400. SO I waited until KX supported this card adn went and picked it up..

Feb 10, 2006, 08:47 PM	#256
ROBSCIX DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 1,732 Rep Power: 0	even if lemury couls just patch up the AC97 for us for now that would be great!! so how about it lemury could you do that? patch up the graphic issues? I imagine alot of guys would thank you for it and it would make waiting for your next version a little easier...thx

Feb 11, 2006, 01:39 AM	#258
thomasabarnes Long Time ***** Friend Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: USA Posts: 1,375 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	LeMury: Hiya guy. My Internet expires in April, so I hope you would release a new ProFX before then. I dont know if or when I could get Internet again, so I'm pleading with you to release something before April, if time permits. Cya, Thomas __________________ May a song always touch you in a positive way. SONAR X1D Expanded, Windows 7 Pro 64Bit, MOTU UltraLite MK3, 150 GB HDD, 250 GB HDD, 1 TB x2 HDD 7200 rpm My Music Production: Top 40, Contemporary Christian, Pop/Rock, Decent Rap, Inspirationals, and Children Songs

Feb 22, 2006, 06:46 PM	Thread Starter #259
Lex Nahumury DH Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 1,932 Rep Power: 64	ProFx v3.0 (compiled for 3538j) ProFx v3.0 (compiled for 3538j) Screenshot: http://members.home.nl/nahutec/kxplugins/pfx3_shot.PNG Download links on first post! - removed: kXGUI and MFC dependancy Notes: - Since I wrote the entire GUI framework from scratch using plain win32 api only, user should experience faster GUI load times and less CPU usage. (i.e. the 8 Peak meters in MX6 should consume hardly any CPU time) - Allthough compiled for 3538j it is very likely it will also work on future 3538 driver releases. (because it doesn't use KXGUI) It will NOT work on 3537 or earlier because it uses some of the newer 3538 api features. - You are free to choose which build to use. Theoreticly the Release build should work fine, but since everything in kX is Debug release...bla bla bla. - Note that the old MX6 does not get overwritten. You'll find the new MX6 in the ProFx section using the GUID of old k2lt. Previously saved DSP-setups have to be re-wired. I did not have the time to check everything, so please report any bugs. /LeMury EDIT: Installation; Just unzip and register the .KXL file that's all. Last edited by LeMury; Feb 28, 2006 at 03:27 AM.

Feb 22, 2006, 07:00 PM	#260
thomasabarnes Long Time ***** Friend Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: USA Posts: 1,375 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	LeMury: Thank you so much!!!! Looks and sounds great!!! Great work! Off to install. EDIT All works great, and all plugins can be renamed, too! That's very nice! Thanks LeMury for all your work and consideration toward us! Oh yeah, GUI loading is like instantaneous! It takes like a second for other plugin GUIs to load, but these new ProFX plugins load instantaneously! The ability to rename the MX6 channels is great, too! __________________ May a song always touch you in a positive way. SONAR X1D Expanded, Windows 7 Pro 64Bit, MOTU UltraLite MK3, 150 GB HDD, 250 GB HDD, 1 TB x2 HDD 7200 rpm My Music Production: Top 40, Contemporary Christian, Pop/Rock, Decent Rap, Inspirationals, and Children Songs Last edited by thomasabarnes; Feb 22, 2006 at 08:02 PM.

Feb 22, 2006, 07:01 PM	#261
ROBSCIX DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 1,732 Rep Power: 0	Your the Man...Thx Lemury.. I really appreciate your effort releasing these plugins for everybody. Again thx. NOw if we can just get Max on the bandwagon all would be great...thx Last edited by ROBSCIX; Feb 22, 2006 at 07:11 PM.

Feb 22, 2006, 07:56 PM	#262
miguel DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 209 Rep Power: 0	Well done! Thanks much LeMury

Feb 22, 2006, 08:11 PM	#263
miguel DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 209 Rep Power: 0	LeMury, kXlt shows wrong names for the APS card, it displays names as for a live! card, I think. I'll test the individual outs later. The SRC works great, though. Other than that the plugins run very fast, great!

Feb 22, 2006, 08:22 PM	#264
Maddogg6 Tail Razer Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Bernyurass, AZ - USA Posts: 4,027 Rep Power: 0	BRAVO! VERY NICE INDEED. Thank you very much LeMury.

Feb 22, 2006, 09:03 PM	#266
miguel DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 209 Rep Power: 0	I think it was the version you released with an installer, was it for 3538h? The version that comes with j works ok but being older, maybe not as useful to know about. I seem to remember reporting a similar bug but I think it happened with SRC, not sure, sorry.

Feb 22, 2006, 11:11 PM	#270
thomasabarnes Long Time ***** Friend Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: USA Posts: 1,375 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	"GUI loading could even be more faster if I would refrain from using an exe compressor. BTW try; - right-click on the titlebar. Gives context menu with "keep visible" and "Open DSP". -Same on the taskbar icon. (God knows how often we have to open the DSP right?)" Keep Visible and Open DSP are nice features (we have Russ' PluginQL Addon to help in this area, too). "Also; - If a plug is already opened but minimized, doubleclicking on it's DSP window will now restore it and bring the plug in the foreground. (too many times I've doubleclicked in the DSP window to try open a plug that was already opened but minimized and,... nothing happend )" Yes, that was a pain in the butt. I would have to minimize the DSP to get the plugin GUI to show agian. Nice work on fixing this problem! "- saving a preset now presents the current preset name (unless it has been closed/re-opened). Handy for saving 'lookalike' presets." That's convenient. "- save/delete preset Dialogs now respond to Enter/Cancel keys like it should." Cool, it works with the Esc and Enter keys of the keyboard. "Anyway, ... glad you like it but be prepared for some bugs too. (can't write an entire framework from scratch whithout producing some bugs)" I will post here, if I find any bugs. Hey, not to try to disturb you or any thing, but what happened to maybe having an MX8? That would allow for a purely ProFX DSP setup (with the exception of FX Plugins) entailing Wave 0/1 (for WMP playback), 2/3, 4/5, 6/7, 8/9 (for MIDI, and all wave devices,), ADC for Mic and Line In, Plus 2 effects can be always enabled for FX Sends via the MX8. That would be great! Anyway, I'm not pressuring you, was just asking if you were still considering making a MX8. Thanks for all your work, LeMury! I wont forget you. __________________ May a song always touch you in a positive way. SONAR X1D Expanded, Windows 7 Pro 64Bit, MOTU UltraLite MK3, 150 GB HDD, 250 GB HDD, 1 TB x2 HDD 7200 rpm My Music Production: Top 40, Contemporary Christian, Pop/Rock, Decent Rap, Inspirationals, and Children Songs Last edited by thomasabarnes; Feb 22, 2006 at 11:17 PM.