NEW: 'Analog' Drum Machine (DSP-Instrument)

Lex Nahumury · Jun 26, 2005, 08:36 PM

'Analog' Drum Machine (DSP-Instrument)

- 3 voice polyphonic (Kick, Snare, HiHat)
- 3 seperate outputs for individual processing
- 2 seperate Noise Sources and Noise Filters for Snare and HiHats
- 2 HiHats; Open and Closed Decay
- midi activity indicators per instrument
- all parameters real time controllable through MIDI CC numbers

Picture:
http://members.home.nl/nahutec/drumsynth/dsynth.png
Tune:
http://members.home.nl/nahutec/drumsynth/dsynth.mp3

Demo tune by TravelRec:
http://www.electricstart.de/sound/drumdemo.mp3
-DrumMachine1.1a w/o any FX, quantized Loop,
Controller changes recorded and played in real-time.
-Asynth1.1c with Stereo-Chorus for bass-line (quantized), no controllers.
-Asynth1.1c with DelayA and MaxM.´s ReverbR for melody (quantized), no controllers.
ALL SOUND OUT OF DSP!!!

A nice sequence made by Kokoon;
http://members.home.nl/nahutec/drumsynth/aciiiiid.mp3
-DrumMachine + Asynth

Downloads:
3545: http://members.home.nl/nahutec/drums.../drumsynth.kxl
3538: http://members.home.nl/nahutec/drums...v1.1a_3538.zip
3537: http://members.home.nl/nahutec/drums...v1.1a_3537.zip

Installation:
Delete any previous version and (re)register the plugin. That's all.

DRUM MACHINE MIDI IMPLEMENTATION CHART
---------------------------------------------
CC00 BANK SELECT - Bank select MSB (0 - 127)
CC12 KICK START PITCH
CC13 KICK END PITCH
CC14 KICK GLIDE
CC15 KICK DECAY RATE
CC16 KICK VOLUME
CC17 SNARE START PITCH
CC18 SNARE END PITCH
CC19 SNARE GLIDE
CC20 SNARE DECAY RATE
CC21 SNARE VOLUME
CC22 SNARE/NOISE BALANCE
CC23 SNARE FILTER TYPE
CC24 SNARE NOISE FILTER FC
CC25 SNARE NOISE FILTER RESO
CC26 HH NOISE FILTER FC
CC27 HH NOISE FILTER RESO
CC28 HH DECAY1 RATE (Closed HiHat)
CC29 HH DECAY2 RATE (Open HiHat)
CC30 HH VOLUME
CC31 HH FILTER TYPE
----------------------------------------------

MIDI Note Number Assignment (GM compatible):
---------------------------------------------------------
KICK 0....36
SNARE 37...40
HIHAT 42,44,46
---------------------------------------------------------

Have fun,

/LeMury

ROBSCIX · Jun 26, 2005, 08:39 PM

Awsome....Your a master mind dude...

radiocolonel.it · Jun 26, 2005, 10:11 PM

.... Thanks so much!!!

I'm having so much fun right, i'll give u later some more serious feedback!!!

trevbushell · Jun 26, 2005, 11:46 PM

nah, i dont like it!

.................only joking!

bravo! look forward to playing with it as soon as i can. nice demo tunes guys... nice arpegio lemury ( a man after my own heart, i love apregios!!) , nice programming travelrec, specially the last bit with the snare!
lemury when do your talents end??

trev

**dj_stick** · Jun 26, 2005, 11:47 PM

i'm beginning to feel i won't need VSTi anymore

kokoon · Jun 27, 2005, 07:44 AM

that's awesome man! thanks alot!

Samir · Jun 27, 2005, 02:16 PM

AWESOME! This DSP sound synthesis is getting out of control!

Keep up the good work!

Nappylady · Jun 27, 2005, 06:52 PM

This is an AWESOME synth. I love triggering the kickdrum at the same time I am tweaking the frequencies between 200-6000hz :-) Lovely techie noises--way fun.

Does anyone else notice a small "tick" at the start of a kickdrum sound if you trigger it when the previous sound hasn't finished yet? If this can be confirmed, can it also be fixed, pretty please? :-)

Lex Nahumury · Jun 28, 2005, 12:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nappylady

Does anyone else notice a small "tick" at the start of a kickdrum sound if you trigger it when the previous sound hasn't finished yet? ......, can it also be fixed, pretty please? :-)

Confirmed, but unfortunatly not easy to 'fix' without using an excessive
amount of dsp resources.
Try to use the fastest/usable Decay setting.

/LeMury

TravelRec. · Jul 7, 2005, 11:43 AM

Hmm, I can´t believe that there is no user-response anymore!? Is there nothing more to say about or to do with this great plugin?! All the work of LeMury in vein?! Please no....

bennetng · Jul 7, 2005, 12:54 PM

Wow! Now we have FM/Analog Synth, organ, drum machine..... how about a GM FM/Analog Synth next time?

Nappylady · Jul 7, 2005, 03:41 PM

Travelrec, we are using this plugin feverishly... It's so good, we are not taking time away from it to talk about it! :-)

mistan · Jul 7, 2005, 04:31 PM

LOL, you can use KX as a synth player?..
i didnt know!!
how do i go about playing instruments from the DSP?
these drivers just keep getting better and better (and thats with the current driver set that i have 3537...i keep finding new stuff to play with and this is over the course of months...i wonder what the next versions will bring)

**dj_stick** · Jul 8, 2005, 02:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TravelRec.

Hmm, I can´t believe that there is no user-response anymore!? Is there nothing more to say about or to do with this great plugin?! All the work of LeMury in vein?! Please no....

unfortunately i'm having trouble to get these synths working at all with my sequencer when i have the time to try, so i can't comment

the problem seems to be a conflict with logic/midiyoke

Lex Nahumury · Jul 8, 2005, 04:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dj_stick

unfortunately i'm having trouble to get these synths working at all with my sequencer ....the problem seems to be a conflict with logic/midiyoke

Weird. I'll try it with logic.
Anyway, we are working on a better MIDI solution for such 'kX DSP instruments'
in the next driver release. (No more need for virtual midi ports like midiyoke etc.)

/LeMury

**dj_stick** · Jul 8, 2005, 04:48 AM

i'm aware of the midi implementation planned

but for some reason everytime i send midi data from logic through midi yoke i get a loopback error

that also happened before my recent re-format

Lex Nahumury · Jul 8, 2005, 05:24 AM

Yes, although I'm not an Logic expert, it seems to keep connecting midiyoke's ins to outs.
I've tried to change the midi enviroment setup, but to no avail.

DK-1 · Jul 8, 2005, 05:28 AM

I was wondering why there were no more responses to this post!!!. Being a drummer, I thought this Analog Drum Machine was a fantastic achievement. Especially if you use the DSP. I have a pretty cool setup in DSP where I have the snare going to a Reverb with one setting (light) and the Hi Hat going to another Reverb slightly heavier. I didn't respond because I was too busy using the Drum Machine. Great work Lemury!!!!! I really hope you continue to develop KX DSP Instruments, ESPECIALLY DRUMS. This is too cool.

**dj_stick** · Jul 8, 2005, 05:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeMury

Yes, although I'm not an Logic expert, it seems to keep connecting midiyoke's ins to outs.
I've tried to change the midi enviroment setup, but to no avail.

i came to the same conclusion

when i have a little more time i'll try to reasearch the problem, and i'll post back if i find a solution

TheKezReturns · Jul 9, 2005, 02:56 AM

Yeah logic really hates midiyoke... you gotta edit win.ini and disbale all the midiyoke devices you don't need. For most cases, you shouldn't need any of the midiyoke input ports, only out.

**dj_stick** · Jul 9, 2005, 05:49 AM

you need the inputs for the kX dsp instruments

TheKezReturns · Jul 18, 2005, 02:45 PM

Logic->Midiyoke outputport->Kx DSP instruments. Keep at least one of these enabled in win.ini
Midiyoke Input port->logic ... don't see a need for it. Diable all of them in win.ini and she'll run like a charm.

BpM · Jul 20, 2005, 09:27 PM

Great work!!!
I have the same opinion like DJStick:
Why spend lot of money (we shouldt donate it to Eugene and LeMury) for commercial Vst plugins,
when we have (thanks to all kx programmers) tools like this?
With the big advantage that they are integrated in kx:
Just turn on your pc and your contollers and making music without starting any software....

BpM

kokoon · Aug 1, 2005, 09:43 PM

MAN this is simply the best think on KX yet!!! how did you manage to make it so simple yet so real?!? i've been stuggling with my puredata analogue rythm machine but never managed to get such autentic sounds!!! you can do virtually anything from tr808 to tr909... YES even VERY 909-style hats can be achieved... soooooo punchy and clear!

this and the ASynth really made my day today

i was rocking out with just that 2 modules and a few more hardware pieces the whole evening!!!

thanks so much!!!

trevbushell · Aug 2, 2005, 11:35 PM

kokoon sounds like you got to programming the drums really well to get different sounds...

any way of posting your saved user presets for us to share??? that would be cool if it can be done
trev

kokoon · Aug 2, 2005, 11:55 PM

i haven't saved any but i can do it if you'd use them. okay i'll make some and post them here.

trevbushell · Aug 3, 2005, 09:45 PM

sounds good!

trev

ElmoLesto · Oct 10, 2005, 12:13 AM

Wow, this is unbelievable. Thanks Lemury.

buma · Dec 8, 2005, 02:38 AM

i have problem, not is possible register this plugin, sigh sigh

i have version kx
5, 10, 00, 3538 - debug
jul 14 2005

thank for reply.

Chronial · Sep 17, 2006, 03:51 PM

Same Problem here :/

Jun 26, 2005, 08:36 PM	#1
Lex Nahumury DH Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 1,932 Rep Power: 64	NEW: 'Analog' Drum Machine (DSP-Instrument) 'Analog' Drum Machine (DSP-Instrument) - 3 voice polyphonic (Kick, Snare, HiHat) - 3 seperate outputs for individual processing - 2 seperate Noise Sources and Noise Filters for Snare and HiHats - 2 HiHats; Open and Closed Decay - midi activity indicators per instrument - all parameters real time controllable through MIDI CC numbers Picture: http://members.home.nl/nahutec/drumsynth/dsynth.png Tune: http://members.home.nl/nahutec/drumsynth/dsynth.mp3 Demo tune by TravelRec: http://www.electricstart.de/sound/drumdemo.mp3 -DrumMachine1.1a w/o any FX, quantized Loop, Controller changes recorded and played in real-time. -Asynth1.1c with Stereo-Chorus for bass-line (quantized), no controllers. -Asynth1.1c with DelayA and MaxM.´s ReverbR for melody (quantized), no controllers. ALL SOUND OUT OF DSP!!! A nice sequence made by Kokoon; http://members.home.nl/nahutec/drumsynth/aciiiiid.mp3 -DrumMachine + Asynth Downloads: 3545: http://members.home.nl/nahutec/drums.../drumsynth.kxl 3538: http://members.home.nl/nahutec/drums...v1.1a_3538.zip 3537: http://members.home.nl/nahutec/drums...v1.1a_3537.zip Installation: Delete any previous version and (re)register the plugin. That's all. DRUM MACHINE MIDI IMPLEMENTATION CHART --------------------------------------------- CC00 BANK SELECT - Bank select MSB (0 - 127) CC12 KICK START PITCH CC13 KICK END PITCH CC14 KICK GLIDE CC15 KICK DECAY RATE CC16 KICK VOLUME CC17 SNARE START PITCH CC18 SNARE END PITCH CC19 SNARE GLIDE CC20 SNARE DECAY RATE CC21 SNARE VOLUME CC22 SNARE/NOISE BALANCE CC23 SNARE FILTER TYPE CC24 SNARE NOISE FILTER FC CC25 SNARE NOISE FILTER RESO CC26 HH NOISE FILTER FC CC27 HH NOISE FILTER RESO CC28 HH DECAY1 RATE (Closed HiHat) CC29 HH DECAY2 RATE (Open HiHat) CC30 HH VOLUME CC31 HH FILTER TYPE ---------------------------------------------- MIDI Note Number Assignment (GM compatible): --------------------------------------------------------- KICK 0....36 SNARE 37...40 HIHAT 42,44,46 --------------------------------------------------------- Have fun, /LeMury Last edited by Lex Nahumury; Aug 19, 2008 at 10:15 AM. Reason: update 3545

Jun 26, 2005, 10:11 PM	#3
radiocolonel.it DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Italy Posts: 192 Rep Power: 0	.... Thanks so much!!! I'm having so much fun right, i'll give u later some more serious feedback!!! __________________ http://www.rossanodembech.it

Jun 26, 2005, 11:46 PM	#4
trevbushell DriverHeaven Addict Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: portsmouth, england Posts: 323 Rep Power: 0	nah, i dont like it! .................only joking! bravo! look forward to playing with it as soon as i can. nice demo tunes guys... nice arpegio lemury ( a man after my own heart, i love apregios!!) , nice programming travelrec, specially the last bit with the snare! lemury when do your talents end?? trev __________________ [COLOR=black]http://www.myspace.com/trevbushell[/COLOR]

Jun 27, 2005, 07:44 AM	#6
kokoon DriverHeaven Addict Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: slovenia Posts: 269 Rep Power: 0	that's awesome man! thanks alot! __________________ [kokoon]

Jun 27, 2005, 02:16 PM	#7
Samir kX Lover Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 520 Rep Power: 0	AWESOME! This DSP sound synthesis is getting out of control! Keep up the good work! __________________ MU3NKA 3A HAPO6!

Jun 26, 2005, 08:39 PM	#2
ROBSCIX DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 1,732 Rep Power: 0	Awsome....Your a master mind dude...

Jun 27, 2005, 06:52 PM	#8
Nappylady DriverHeaven Addict Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 257 Rep Power: 0	This is an AWESOME synth. I love triggering the kickdrum at the same time I am tweaking the frequencies between 200-6000hz :-) Lovely techie noises--way fun. Does anyone else notice a small "tick" at the start of a kickdrum sound if you trigger it when the previous sound hasn't finished yet? If this can be confirmed, can it also be fixed, pretty please? :-)

Jul 7, 2005, 11:43 AM	#10
TravelRec. Alternative Audioproductions Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Germany / Sachsen-Anhalt Posts: 1,710 Rep Power: 0	Hmm, I can´t believe that there is no user-response anymore!? Is there nothing more to say about or to do with this great plugin?! All the work of LeMury in vein?! Please no.... __________________ Always take a look behind.

Jul 7, 2005, 12:54 PM	#11
bennetng DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Hong Kong Posts: 61 Rep Power: 0	Wow! Now we have FM/Analog Synth, organ, drum machine..... how about a GM FM/Analog Synth next time?

Jul 7, 2005, 03:41 PM	#12
Nappylady DriverHeaven Addict Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 257 Rep Power: 0	Travelrec, we are using this plugin feverishly... It's so good, we are not taking time away from it to talk about it! :-)

Jul 7, 2005, 04:31 PM	#13
mistan DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 70 Rep Power: 0	LOL, you can use KX as a synth player?.. i didnt know!! how do i go about playing instruments from the DSP? these drivers just keep getting better and better (and thats with the current driver set that i have 3537...i keep finding new stuff to play with and this is over the course of months...i wonder what the next versions will bring)

Jul 8, 2005, 05:24 AM	Thread Starter #17
Lex Nahumury DH Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 1,932 Rep Power: 64	Yes, although I'm not an Logic expert, it seems to keep connecting midiyoke's ins to outs. I've tried to change the midi enviroment setup, but to no avail.

Jul 8, 2005, 05:28 AM	#18
DK-1 DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 106 Rep Power: 0	I was wondering why there were no more responses to this post!!!. Being a drummer, I thought this Analog Drum Machine was a fantastic achievement. Especially if you use the DSP. I have a pretty cool setup in DSP where I have the snare going to a Reverb with one setting (light) and the Hi Hat going to another Reverb slightly heavier. I didn't respond because I was too busy using the Drum Machine. Great work Lemury!!!!! I really hope you continue to develop KX DSP Instruments, ESPECIALLY DRUMS. This is too cool.

Jul 9, 2005, 02:56 AM	#20
TheKezReturns HardwareHeaven Lover Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Gold Coast Australia Posts: 118 Rep Power: 0	Yeah logic really hates midiyoke... you gotta edit win.ini and disbale all the midiyoke devices you don't need. For most cases, you shouldn't need any of the midiyoke input ports, only out.

Jul 18, 2005, 02:45 PM	#22
TheKezReturns HardwareHeaven Lover Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Gold Coast Australia Posts: 118 Rep Power: 0	Logic->Midiyoke outputport->Kx DSP instruments. Keep at least one of these enabled in win.ini Midiyoke Input port->logic ... don't see a need for it. Diable all of them in win.ini and she'll run like a charm. Last edited by TheKezReturns; Jul 18, 2005 at 03:04 PM.

Jul 20, 2005, 09:27 PM	#23
BpM DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Germany / Sachsen Posts: 36 Rep Power: 0	Great work!!! I have the same opinion like DJStick: Why spend lot of money (we shouldt donate it to Eugene and LeMury) for commercial Vst plugins, when we have (thanks to all kx programmers) tools like this? With the big advantage that they are integrated in kx: Just turn on your pc and your contollers and making music without starting any software.... BpM __________________ WinXp Pro tuned by MusicXP.net Athlon XP64 3200 1024MB Dual 2x 80Gb ATA133 7200rpm Audigy 1, Audigy 2ZS KX-driver 3538h Mode: 3 Latency: min 2ms max 8ms Last edited by BpM; Jul 22, 2005 at 05:33 PM.

Aug 1, 2005, 09:43 PM	#24
kokoon DriverHeaven Addict Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: slovenia Posts: 269 Rep Power: 0	MAN this is simply the best think on KX yet!!! how did you manage to make it so simple yet so real?!? i've been stuggling with my puredata analogue rythm machine but never managed to get such autentic sounds!!! you can do virtually anything from tr808 to tr909... YES even VERY 909-style hats can be achieved... soooooo punchy and clear! this and the ASynth really made my day today i was rocking out with just that 2 modules and a few more hardware pieces the whole evening!!! thanks so much!!! __________________ [kokoon]

Aug 2, 2005, 11:35 PM	#25
trevbushell DriverHeaven Addict Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: portsmouth, england Posts: 323 Rep Power: 0	kokoon sounds like you got to programming the drums really well to get different sounds... any way of posting your saved user presets for us to share??? that would be cool if it can be done trev __________________ [COLOR=black]http://www.myspace.com/trevbushell[/COLOR]

Aug 2, 2005, 11:55 PM	#26
kokoon DriverHeaven Addict Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: slovenia Posts: 269 Rep Power: 0	i haven't saved any but i can do it if you'd use them. okay i'll make some and post them here. __________________ [kokoon]

Aug 3, 2005, 09:45 PM	#27
trevbushell DriverHeaven Addict Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: portsmouth, england Posts: 323 Rep Power: 0	sounds good! trev __________________ [COLOR=black]http://www.myspace.com/trevbushell[/COLOR]

Oct 10, 2005, 12:13 AM	#28
ElmoLesto DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Entre RÃos, Argentina Posts: 9 Rep Power: 0	Wow, this is unbelievable. Thanks Lemury. __________________ Visit this music page ! http://www.soundclick.com/bands/page...?bandid=235151

Dec 8, 2005, 02:38 AM	#29
buma DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 5 Rep Power: 0	error: plugin library not valid i have problem, not is possible register this plugin, sigh sigh i have version kx 5, 10, 00, 3538 - debug jul 14 2005 thank for reply.

Sep 17, 2006, 03:51 PM	#30
Chronial DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 6 Rep Power: 0	Same Problem here :/