manw

Hey guys, i'm tryin' to do some recording at home on a Audigy card, and i want to know if it is possible to have the signal from the Front speakers routed to the rear speakers too, so i can use the front output as a main output, and the rear output for monitoring??? I don't want to use splitters, since i want individual volume control, and don't have a mixer or headphone amp at home. Help is much appreciated. Thank you in advance.

kXfanatic

Definitely, yes. It's quite simple.

TravelRec.

Connect in the DSP the same signal source (or plugin) to the different physical outputs and you will get the same signal on both outs.

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kXfanatic

I guess, volume controls shoud be placed at each route...

manw

thanks a lot; i'm new to this kx thing, and didn't want to temper with it without getting to know a bit of it first...
Another question - the 3538 drivers are supposed to work under Windows Vista?

manw

Thanks for your help guys, but how do i actually place volume controls?? is it in the DSP???

TravelRec.

Yes, put a volume or stereo volume plugin between sound source and physical uotput or use a mixer like the famous ProFX-MX6 by LeMury, all in the DSP window.

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Maddogg6

To add plugins in the dsp window - right click - 'Add effect / Plugin'
There are many to play with too.

Some notes:
Connections on Plugins / effects = INPUTS on LEFT side & OUTPUTS on RIGHT side

To connect - Left click and drag from an output to an input or vise versa.

The little rectangles on the sides of plugins are the connecting points of the plugins.



Windows Vista:

Search these forums I thought I seen some who got KX to install, but I think they had some problems..?? but then again Im not positive...

manw

ok, did that and worked ok( with 2 stereo volume controls on each stereo channel); but i'm going through another dilemma right now(pls bear with me, i told you i'm a noob with KX) - my home Soundcard is an Audigy ES(or LS, not sure - the one that comes with midi connector on it), with SB0162 chip. Will i be able to use this setup if i swap front and rear? does it have that IS2 convertor? thanks again for your pacience and support

Maddogg6

Read this...
http://kxproject.lugosoft.com/rear.php?language=en

manw

i read it, and it didn't quite answer my questions :
1)does my Audigy card (SB0162) have an IS2 chip, since i read that not all models have it;
2)if it does, will it work with the setup i just made thanks to the help i received here (both front and rear channels receiveing the same signal in order to have a separate channel for monitoring)

Maddogg6

The first sentance DOES answer the question..

'These issues pertain to all Creative cards, but not to the E-mu APS and some Audigy2 Platinum Ex cards'

If your card is an Audigy 1 - then yes - you do have an AC97 and I2S and the swap front rear issue does affect you.

manw

ok, and if i swap the front and rear channels, i will still be able to have the same signal routed to both front and rear channels, but the signal will be coming from sR and sL in the surrounder, right?
any way, is it such a big improvement in audio qulity swapping rear and front channels?

Maddogg6

The swap front and rears seem to be 'hardware' - that is - it swaps the jacks, but doesnt affect the DSP modules.

So If I run a signal to Epilogs 'Front OUT' in the DSP - with swap front and rear OFF - the jack labled on the card as front will output that signal.

If Swap front rear is ON - the signal appears at the jack labled REAR.

Dont be affraid to play with the settings (AFTER SAVING SETTINGS of course) you cant really 'break' anything doing so as long as your amp/speakers are set to low/moderate levels.

Is it such a big improvement - with measurements it is - will your ears 'hear' a difference? - well, if your using a crappy amp and spakers - maybe not.

I understand the confusion on this, but really it just takes some playing with to get used to and completely understand how it will behave.

PS - If you ran a duplicate signal to the SR and SL - the old defailt connection from surrounder to those pins on epilog *should* have been disconnected when doing so...

ONLY 1 Output can feed any 1 INPUT - but the opposite is NOT true, as 1 output can feed many inputs.

In otherwords, I cant say: connect FR and SR from surrounder to Front R out on epilog.
But I can run FR from surrounder to FR and RR on epilog.

So...

'i will still be able to have the same signal routed to both front and rear channels, but the signal will be coming from sR and sL in the surrounder, right?'

Depends on what is connected to SR and SL on epilog in your dsp.
If you connected the FR and FL out on surrounder to SR and SL in on epilog - then NO that statement is not true.

The swap front and rear - think of it as a convenient means to physically change the plugs around on the card, with out bending over and bumping your head on the underside of your desk... not that Ive done that or anything... lol

Russ

That statement is generally true, but some Live! models (i.e. some sb022x models) also do not have the I2s codec...

Maddogg6

I have to say THIS is one reason why KX seems to be so confusing for so many (including myself) - too bad the docs arent wiki'd or something more centralized and edited/updated.

dj_stick

that's a pretty good idea

i'll pass this along to Eugene ASAP

EDIT: after speaking with Eugene, it's impossible on the current webserver, but we are looking into finding a location

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Maddogg6

Oh I have a ton of good (no, GREAT) Ideas - not many are for free tho - lol.

Whats the problem there - PM me, maybe Ill have another good idea...

manw

Thanks; i'm going now to experiment with it, and get back to tell you of my failures http://www.hardwareheaven.com/images/s...big%20grin.gif