PluginQL -- A kX Addon

Smiro

Works great, thanks a lot Russ

Chester01

I am having issues using this with 3538K, it seems to crash my DSP everytime I try and use/load it. Any suggestions? Perhaps a recomplilation is in order. Thankyou for your help, this plugin has been a godsend.

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Russ

I haven't tested it with 3538k as of yet. I will take a look when I have a chance. Thanks for the report.

Russ

Ok, I recompiled the plugin and addon for 3538k. Do not forget to quit kxmixer before replacing any files that are in use. Download link is in the first post of this thread.

BTW: I changed ISP's, so my alternate download site is no longer available (in case anyone went to that site and wondered what happened to it).

-Russ

Chester01

works great, thank you for your help and support
-Matt

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Russ

No problem, I am glad that the addon is useful to you.

-Russ

Russ

I made some minor changes (removed some debug stuff that I was using for testing, and fixed the plugin so that it uses no resources (there was a small bug causing it to use one gpr)) to the 3538j and 3538k versions. Again, quit kxmixer before replacing any files that are in use (no need to re-register the plugin/addon if replacing existing (allready registered) files, otherwise follow the installation instructions in the 1st post of this thread.).

-Russ

ROBSCIX

Thanks Russ, I just installed and started using it. SO now I have my UFX and ProfX plug on hot keys ..awesome..It is really very cool and extremley useful. Especially when recording and such. Thx again.

Russ

Doh, I just noticed a typo with the Toggle "Swap Front and Rear" mode option (says "From" instead of "Front"). I'll correct that next time I do an update...

Let me know if anyone notices any other typos, or bugs, etc.

Russ

Added new test version to test out some new options (that I cannot completely test myself). Currently it is only available for 3538k.

Added: Device selection option for those of you with multiple kX compatible cards.
-- Needs to be tested as I do not have multiple cards myself.

Added: Close All Plugin Windows option
-- This should close all plugin tweak windows (for all devices).
-- As with other plugin windows, it is only for plugins with their own tweak window.

Added: Close All Applet Windows option
-- This should close all kX applet windows.

Added: Close All Windows option
-- This is a combination of the above two options.

I changed the way the NONE option is saved, so when it reads any older settings, all the keys that were previously set to NONE will change to Select Device, so you may want to manually change them back to NONE and save (or Set Defaults and save, etc).

I am still considering an option for using different settings for different configurations, but it is a little complicated, so I am not sure if/when I will add such an option.

I did NOT add the option to have different keys work with different devices (multi-card setups), because it would require me to change the way I save settings (as I would need to save another parameter with each key), and as such, it would make old settings incompatible. I may add this option in the future if enough people want it. (i.e. another combo box where you can set the device you want associated with the key, etc).

Let me know if there are any problems with the new options, etc.

-Russ

Maddogg6

If you can/like - if you compile for J I will test the 2 card stuff.

let me know.... or wait till I have K istalled if no one else does....

Sorry but me and my friend need to record another song before I can U/G to K.

edit: but you KNOW Im always happy to irritate you :P lol ...

ROBSCIX

Hey, Doog..I am running 3538J and I am using that add-on....it's on his site..

Chester01

I think that the changing a parameter with a keypress would be VERY nice. I generally have a gain plugin open on my desktop because that is how i control the volume of my stereo If I could map the one key to decrease gain and the two key to increase gain (with ctrl+shift) it would be very cool. Just a thought... Thanks for the continued support!

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Russ

Added new test version for 3538j.

@Chester01
I had thought about the possibility of controlling other plugin's parameters using hotkeys, but I think that would be better to do with a different plugin or program.

ROBSCIX

@Chester01, you can get little midi apps that aloow you to map keystrokes to midid events then use KX automation to adjust your Gain plugin. I used something similar to this with my P5 glove that would change parameters when I moved my hand...

Maddogg6

edited...

Ok this is the first irritation I warned of... hehe

Mode isnt changing the indicator in the add-on menu...

This DOES switch between cards right?

Doesnt seem to work for me - or I need more instruction

Maddogg6

Ok - I see a device select in the drop downs... but whats the mode for?

other than that - working good so far.

edit nevermind... im dumb... works good... but I cant use with some apps running... (Had FF running and was conflicting with FF funcs)

Ill test more and report errors now that im less dumb now

Russ

All hotkeys work with the currently selected device (i.e. the one with the check mark next to it in the kX menu, under device). If you choose the "Select Device" option, the second combo box should list what cards you have. Pick one from the list, and save the settings (remember that the settings are not used/updated until you save them). Then, when you use that hotkey sequence, it should change to that device (and the kx menu should reflect the change). Now the hotkeys should work for that device instead of the previous one (same as if you changed devices from the menu).

The modes are to change which mode is the active one. To change modes, you use the ALT-SHIFT-NUMKEY sequences (where NUMKEY is the mode). The PluginQL addon menu item shows the current mode. The mode drop down box changes the GUI to show the key settings for which ever mode is selected in the drop down box. i.e. The action perfromed by the CTRL-SHIFT-KEYNUM hotkey sequences, depend on what mode you are in, as each mode can have its own independant settings (BTW: this part has not changed from the previous version).

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Just saw your edit...
Yes, that is possible, that is why I made it so that the hotkeys can be disabled.
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Maddogg6

You know me... keeping my promise (irritation....)

Been working great so far...

But...(I have suggestions - like or not, I get em) is it possible to pop up a tray message when:
1) mode changed
2) device select change happened and what device was chosen..
3) an option to enable and disable the above funcs 1&2.?

AND yet better would be a tray Icon that indicated device selected... but I have doubts thats an easy thing to do... - but would be good.
edit: and an option to disable this as well - end edit

Just suggestions (honestly - I get mixed up between what card is selected as all the tweak windows dont indicate what device its attached to/affecting. And I used same renames in both device pugins (an MX6 = 'Main Monitor'... not 'Dev# Main Monitor' - as a for instance)
So now I 'need' to either a) have the DSP open as well to match the plug in ID or b) I could rename all my plugins, but thats alot of effort I prolly wont do, until maybe I U/G to K (with all my configs saved - per project/song - and such)

Keep in mind also, also trying to anticipate what others may notice- btw.

(am I rambling... sorry)

And NOT such a huge deal to me, becuase most of my 'tweaks' are with 1 device 90% of the time... but others(??) may find such funcs usefull .. ??

Again.. just humble suggestions/observations and not even requests from me personally - I mean if Im the only one bringing this up... well, fuhgedaboudit.

Nice addon either way - and have not found anything what Id call a bug and will continue take advantage of your hard work :P.

Maddogg6

After thinking more about the tray Icon thing... thats actually a better suggestion for Eugene (do I sound like a dork calling him by name and never so much as communicating with him before?? - Like me calling the pres.... George - cuz I have some suggestions for him too - well never mind.... )

Anyway... I wouldnt go too far on that one anyway....

Russ

@Maddogg6
Well... the more useful it is to people, the more it will be used, so ideas are always welcome. I have some (similair) ideas of my own as well, so I will think about it, and try and figure out something.

Maybe for the current device indicator, but considering that you have to manually change devices, he probably figures that you know which device you are using. It is a little different when using hotkeys. Additionally, an indicator is not going to help you figure out which device a plugin window is for (if it does not show it), it is only going to show you the currently selected device.

As for using his first name, I do not think it is strange. I would rather be called by my first name then my whole name (well I guess it depends on the situation), and in this case, everyone knows who you are talking about.

Maddogg6

Well I figure if the seleted device indicator is in the tray icon - I would at least know what device I will be opening tweak windows from - or what I may have just opened.

I'll still stand by my idea of it 'better' for Eugene.
1) others may find it helpfull knowing which MIXER will open if dbl clicked the KX icon for instance.
2) the tray icon is already there - less clutter
3) Id think your addon could then share the same device selection that is shown in KX pop up menu. So selecting devices *could* maybe also change the DSP screen - and simulating choosing the device in the lower right drop down of the DSP applet as well.
4) your addon seems stable enough to be integrated into KX full time. And I think it would be a welcome addition anytime I install or U/G KX. (I havent used this since H.... btw... for some reason I never re-installed this ... and I know your pretty quick to re-compile too..?? *scratches head*)

That was my line of logic anyway.... But you know how little I know about this schtuff and Im prolly not yet understanding why its not such a great idea...

Possible 'indicator' schemes....
1) maybe a user selected color code for a tray Icon (I was think of the KX icon but... not limited to)
2) or a lil number in the corner or overlayed ontop the icon if the option to show this indicator is selected... ?? what ever would make most sense or possible -
3) Or maybe an always on top window (small 1 line of 10 pt text or adjustable in size and font and moveable) indicating device selected and mode. that is always active and not closable while the addon is enabled.. ?? (this would seem like the easiest method in my ignorant lil mind)

I have NO clue if you can change the colors dynamically on tray icons, much less ability to 'overlay' numbers on it... much less on the KX icon. I can understand needing to swap icon files to do this... and would be not so 'elegant' because of this???

Ill keep brain storming if you insist on me bugging you.... you masochist you.

:P

Maddogg6

edit:

Maddogg6

I lied.... selecting devices is opening the ProFx/ADC if present...?? (like I said,, my habit is mostly 1 device to tweak from...)

Ill test more with screwing around with other stuff too...

Ill report back later.... let me make sure of what I tell is correct....

Russ

I was considering something like your 3rd idea.
i.e.
A small, semi-transparent (adjustable), always on top, click-through window.

Hmm, that's not a bad idea for a seperate addon (device indicator).

Do you mean that, instead of changing devices, it opens ProFX : ADC?
Make sure that you are in the right mode when testing.

Maddogg6

Yes... I could very well just be getting congused....

But something seems kinda screwy and not predictable..

My duplicated renaming of the plugins may be the cause... trying to ID the plugs is a bit of a pain and could contribute to me stupidity.

Maddogg6

OK.... false alarm..... I was loading up some other cofigs I have (was testing with a low plugin count in my DSPs at first....)

Then after loading up another config... ading in the pluginQL plugin to the DSP.... it didnlt load saved settings.... and having a pluginQL plugin in both DSPs was confusing me or the program - one or the other...

An indicator is a must IMHO...

Maddogg6

Also... you should have others check if the plugin QL plugin is needed in both DSPs and if not... to not pull a maddogg6.

So to sum it up.... me goofed.

Russ

Ahh, yeah, I have looking into making the plugin restricted to a single instance.
As it is now, they both would always use the same settings, but since the settings are not saved until you save them, if you made changes in one window, and left it open, and then opened the window for the other instance, they would not match (although they would still be using the same settings (whatever was saved last... is shown when you first open the window)).

No, it should only be loaded once, but it does not need to be loaded at all. The plugin is only for changing settings (and the settings are global), and for kX automation. Once the settings are how you want them (and saved), you can unload the plugin (unless you want to use kX Automation with it).

Maddogg6

Title less as well would be a HUGE help too. to reduce screen clutter

Also - it would be a nice touch.. if selecting devices with PluginQL would also swap DSP/Mixer screens as well.... if possible.
I guess I was asumming this was the case - as part of my 'flying off the handle' paranoid 'STOP THE PRESSES' splathering.....