Plugins in Uniform ("UFX")

TravelRec. · Jan 21, 2004, 07:23 AM

Okay Sir, check your PM

!

TravelRec.

kokoon · Feb 8, 2004, 06:53 PM

max, i dont want to spoil any surprises, but are you maybe working on any kind of an overdrive/waveshaper effect? i think the kx package really lacks a decent distortion effect and i've been searching for some algorithms and havent found much. are digital distortion effects essentialy just wave-shapers combined with a chain of filters?

Max M. · Feb 8, 2004, 07:04 PM

>are digital distortion effects essentialy just wave-shapers combined with a chain of filters?

Yes, they are.

kokoon · Feb 8, 2004, 07:50 PM

what about the answer to the first question?

Max M. · Feb 8, 2004, 08:22 PM

well, i have some "waveshaping" effect in development (but it is not classic "distortion/overdrive" <for guitar> or something) and i'm not sure i will include it to ufx...

kokoon · Feb 8, 2004, 09:51 PM

i'd be delighted to see it. even if its not ufx-skinned. and i dont really need a "classic guitar distortion".

Max M. · Feb 11, 2004, 11:39 AM

v. 1.32.02.3536: http://kxdev.narod.ru/ufx/ufxsetup.36.exe (same link)

fixed: crash on "reset settings"

Nando Dominguez · Feb 11, 2004, 11:53 AM

Hi Max and thank you for the file, although the link doesn't work for me at the moment.

Nando

Max M. · Feb 11, 2004, 11:09 PM

(should be ok now)

RIV@NVX · Feb 12, 2004, 10:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Max M.
(should be ok now)

Yup, it works here

TravelRec. · Feb 13, 2004, 08:21 AM

Hi!

So don´t forget: there´s a mirror-site @ www.electricstart.de/kxdrdir.htm. The new file version is on!

Greetings!

TravelRec.

kokoon · Feb 22, 2004, 08:56 PM

max, ive been lookin into dane code of your P1 mono and im puzzled. where is the rest of the filter code?

Max M. · Feb 22, 2004, 10:44 PM

The rest? Do you mean coefficient calculation or..?

kokoon · Feb 22, 2004, 11:51 PM

emmm yes i guess thats what i mean.

Max M. · Feb 23, 2004, 01:09 AM

as always - it's in dll ("kxufx.kxl") - see kxsdk\kxfxlib for example - there're sources for all of the filters shipped with driver....

kokoon · Feb 23, 2004, 08:04 AM

i knew i was missing something... so, basically, every plugin contains a dane part (dsp assembler) and cpp part (to be compiled into a dll)? why are some important effect calculations in the dll? dont we want to make kx plugins as cpu-independent as possible?

if there is any tutorial on making new plugins, could anyone please point me there. i've read the 10kX assembly manual and feel like im still missing some big things - regarding the kx SDK.

thanks and im sorry if this was asked a million times, if that is the case you have all right to flame me to death.

**Eugene Gavrilov** · Feb 24, 2004, 12:46 AM

>> why are some important effect calculations in the dll?

because in most cases the DSP resources should not be used for calculations that are not sample-specific
that is, filter coefficients remain the same for all the samples, but the DSP will be re-calculating them 48000 times a second
that's why DLLs are used for providing the DSP microcode with the required parameters
the actual sound processing is performed by the DSP, while the parameters are calculated by the host CPU

/Eugene

kokoon · Feb 24, 2004, 08:17 AM

plain and simple, thanks

Max M. · Mar 18, 2004, 03:06 AM

updated to 1.33.00.3537 (beta)

http://kxdev.narod.ru/ufx/ufxsetup.37.exe

changes
{
added: crossovers
some bug fixes (incl. "out of screen windows")
}

Thanks

kokoon · Mar 18, 2004, 01:13 PM

YES!!! thanks alot!

bzdang · Mar 18, 2004, 03:45 PM

Yes! Awesome!
Worship!

CRFX · Apr 27, 2004, 11:16 PM

Loving the corsover plugin, sure beats running 6 EQ P5s and configuring them.

Thanks.

nuppe · Apr 28, 2004, 11:57 PM

That crossover is great!

I'm running my new DIY monitors active with it, sounds fantastic!

Are there plans on expanding the crossover?

I'd love a first order version to play with for speaker testing,
and maybe gain adjustment on one set of outputs if it's possible? (some people can never get enough...)

Thanks for making this superb filter, it's wonderful!

/Andreas

NightBreed · Apr 29, 2004, 12:38 AM

"maybe gain adjustment on one set of outputs if it's possible?"

Throwing the gainx plugin on one of the outputs would create the same effect...

TravelRec. · Apr 29, 2004, 12:52 PM

Hi all!

If there are problems with download from jandex.ru (original ufx-file) - I´ve mirrored the new version under www.electricstart.de (plug ins button).

Greetings!

TravelRec.

P.S. Hi Max! Great work again!!!

mattcro · Apr 30, 2004, 11:59 AM

ta v much for the mirror, travelrec! I couldn't get the jandex or other links to work reliably. Reading your expansion project with interest - I have some PCM1800 samples, but they are very small to work with! Waiting on CS5331A samples... Matt.

**dj_stick** · Apr 30, 2004, 01:26 PM

i guess i should say that these plugins rock!

i have been using them for a while - really saves on system resources when eq'ing and reverb is required

nuppe · May 1, 2004, 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by NightBreed
"maybe gain adjustment on one set of outputs if it's possible?"

Throwing the gainx plugin on one of the outputs would create the same effect...

Don't really know what i was thinking, of course that's the way to do it...

Still, a first order version would be neat. Maybe make one plug out of them and make the order adjustable?
(if that's possible, haven't got a clue how those algorithms work).
A delay for time aligning drivers would be a real treat too, but now we're talking luxuries...
The delays already in there aren't useful for this, as you need to set the exact delay time.

Well, i can understand if this wouldn't be top priority, there are lots of other more important stuff.
Just a little wishful thinking on my part.

/Andreas

**dj_stick** · May 1, 2004, 02:30 PM

still if you know the exact time delay you want they are useful…

bzdang · May 1, 2004, 04:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by nuppe

A delay for time aligning drivers would be a real treat too, but now we're talking luxuries...
The delays already in there aren't useful for this, as you need to set the exact delay time.

Well, i can understand if this wouldn't be top priority, there are lots of other more important stuff.
Just a little wishful thinking on my part.

/Andreas

It's done! Check this post....

http://www.hardwareheaven.com/showthre...ighlight=delay

Jan 21, 2004, 07:23 AM	#121
TravelRec. Alternative Audioproductions Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Germany / Sachsen-Anhalt Posts: 1,710 Rep Power: 56	Okay Sir, check your PM ! TravelRec. __________________ Always take a look behind.

Feb 8, 2004, 06:53 PM	#122
kokoon DriverHeaven Addict Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: slovenia Posts: 269 Rep Power: 0	max, i dont want to spoil any surprises, but are you maybe working on any kind of an overdrive/waveshaper effect? i think the kx package really lacks a decent distortion effect and i've been searching for some algorithms and havent found much. are digital distortion effects essentialy just wave-shapers combined with a chain of filters? __________________ [kokoon]

Feb 8, 2004, 07:50 PM	#124
kokoon DriverHeaven Addict Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: slovenia Posts: 269 Rep Power: 0	what about the answer to the first question? __________________ [kokoon]

Feb 8, 2004, 08:22 PM	Thread Starter #125
Max M. h/h member-shmember Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Evil Empire Posts: 2,606 Rep Power: 66	well, i have some "waveshaping" effect in development (but it is not classic "distortion/overdrive" <for guitar> or something) and i'm not sure i will include it to ufx... __________________

Feb 8, 2004, 09:51 PM	#126
kokoon DriverHeaven Addict Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: slovenia Posts: 269 Rep Power: 0	i'd be delighted to see it. even if its not ufx-skinned. and i dont really need a "classic guitar distortion". __________________ [kokoon]

Feb 8, 2004, 07:04 PM	Thread Starter #123
Max M. h/h member-shmember Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Evil Empire Posts: 2,606 Rep Power: 66	>are digital distortion effects essentialy just wave-shapers combined with a chain of filters? Yes, they are.

Feb 11, 2004, 11:39 AM	Thread Starter #127
Max M. h/h member-shmember Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Evil Empire Posts: 2,606 Rep Power: 66	v. 1.32.02.3536: http://kxdev.narod.ru/ufx/ufxsetup.36.exe (same link) fixed: crash on "reset settings" Last edited by Max M.; Feb 11, 2004 at 11:46 AM.

Feb 11, 2004, 11:53 AM	#128
Nando Dominguez DriverHeaven Addict Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Spain Posts: 280 Rep Power: 0	Hi Max and thank you for the file, although the link doesn't work for me at the moment. Nando

Feb 11, 2004, 11:09 PM	Thread Starter #129
Max M. h/h member-shmember Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Evil Empire Posts: 2,606 Rep Power: 66	(should be ok now)

Feb 13, 2004, 08:21 AM	#131
TravelRec. Alternative Audioproductions Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Germany / Sachsen-Anhalt Posts: 1,710 Rep Power: 56	Hi! So don´t forget: there´s a mirror-site @ www.electricstart.de/kxdrdir.htm. The new file version is on! Greetings! TravelRec. __________________ Always take a look behind.

Feb 22, 2004, 08:56 PM	#132
kokoon DriverHeaven Addict Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: slovenia Posts: 269 Rep Power: 0	max, ive been lookin into dane code of your P1 mono and im puzzled. where is the rest of the filter code? __________________ [kokoon]

Feb 22, 2004, 10:44 PM	Thread Starter #133
Max M. h/h member-shmember Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Evil Empire Posts: 2,606 Rep Power: 66	The rest? Do you mean coefficient calculation or..? __________________

Feb 22, 2004, 11:51 PM	#134
kokoon DriverHeaven Addict Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: slovenia Posts: 269 Rep Power: 0	emmm yes i guess thats what i mean. __________________ [kokoon]

Feb 23, 2004, 01:09 AM	Thread Starter #135
Max M. h/h member-shmember Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Evil Empire Posts: 2,606 Rep Power: 66	as always - it's in dll ("kxufx.kxl") - see kxsdk\kxfxlib for example - there're sources for all of the filters shipped with driver.... __________________

Feb 23, 2004, 08:04 AM	#136
kokoon DriverHeaven Addict Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: slovenia Posts: 269 Rep Power: 0	i knew i was missing something... so, basically, every plugin contains a dane part (dsp assembler) and cpp part (to be compiled into a dll)? why are some important effect calculations in the dll? dont we want to make kx plugins as cpu-independent as possible? if there is any tutorial on making new plugins, could anyone please point me there. i've read the 10kX assembly manual and feel like im still missing some big things - regarding the kx SDK. thanks and im sorry if this was asked a million times, if that is the case you have all right to flame me to death. __________________ [kokoon]

Feb 24, 2004, 12:46 AM	#137
Eugene Gavrilov kX Project Lead Programmer and Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 3,106 Rep Power: 73	>> why are some important effect calculations in the dll? because in most cases the DSP resources should not be used for calculations that are not sample-specific that is, filter coefficients remain the same for all the samples, but the DSP will be re-calculating them 48000 times a second that's why DLLs are used for providing the DSP microcode with the required parameters the actual sound processing is performed by the DSP, while the parameters are calculated by the host CPU /Eugene

Feb 24, 2004, 08:17 AM	#138
kokoon DriverHeaven Addict Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: slovenia Posts: 269 Rep Power: 0	plain and simple, thanks __________________ [kokoon]

Mar 18, 2004, 03:06 AM	Thread Starter #139
Max M. h/h member-shmember Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Evil Empire Posts: 2,606 Rep Power: 66	updated to 1.33.00.3537 (beta) http://kxdev.narod.ru/ufx/ufxsetup.37.exe changes { added: crossovers some bug fixes (incl. "out of screen windows") } Thanks

Mar 18, 2004, 01:13 PM	#140
kokoon DriverHeaven Addict Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: slovenia Posts: 269 Rep Power: 0	YES!!! thanks alot! __________________ [kokoon]

Mar 18, 2004, 03:45 PM	#141
bzdang DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Toronto Canada Posts: 36 Rep Power: 0	Yes! Awesome! Worship!

Apr 27, 2004, 11:16 PM	#142
CRFX DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 29 Rep Power: 0	Loving the corsover plugin, sure beats running 6 EQ P5s and configuring them. Thanks.

Apr 28, 2004, 11:57 PM	#143
nuppe DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 5 Rep Power: 0	Spanktastic! That crossover is great! I'm running my new DIY monitors active with it, sounds fantastic! Are there plans on expanding the crossover? I'd love a first order version to play with for speaker testing, and maybe gain adjustment on one set of outputs if it's possible? (some people can never get enough...) Thanks for making this superb filter, it's wonderful! /Andreas

Apr 29, 2004, 12:38 AM	#144
NightBreed DriverHeaven Addict Join Date: May 2003 Location: Philadelphia, PA Posts: 380 Rep Power: 0	"maybe gain adjustment on one set of outputs if it's possible?" Throwing the gainx plugin on one of the outputs would create the same effect...

Apr 29, 2004, 12:52 PM	#145
TravelRec. Alternative Audioproductions Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Germany / Sachsen-Anhalt Posts: 1,710 Rep Power: 56	Hi all! If there are problems with download from jandex.ru (original ufx-file) - I´ve mirrored the new version under www.electricstart.de (plug ins button). Greetings! TravelRec. P.S. Hi Max! Great work again!!! __________________ Always take a look behind.

Apr 30, 2004, 11:59 AM	#146
mattcro DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Scotland Posts: 29 Rep Power: 0	ta v much for the mirror, travelrec! I couldn't get the jandex or other links to work reliably. Reading your expansion project with interest - I have some PCM1800 samples, but they are very small to work with! Waiting on CS5331A samples... Matt.