Plugins in Uniform ("UFX")

Max M. · 24/01/03, 05.17

Guys, i have a news for you.

From now an on, the UFX package is not anymore free of charge - it becomes "commercial". If you've downloaded and used it before 4th November of 2007 - you're still free to use it. But right form today and further, the UFX's author asks you to donate some amount of money you feel affordable for you to "Podari Zhizn'!" relief fund.
It's a fund to help the children suffering from oncological and hematologic sickness.
The requisites you need are: Ôîíä Ïîäàðè æèçíü! Ðåêâèçèòû

If you do not want to help these particular Russian children or you're feeling you don't like Russia whatever it goes - it's OK - we don't want to force you - it's equal if you just do the same for the children of your own country. Please - do so.
Max promises you - these kids will gift to our next generation thousands of new UFXs - just if they do not die.

Thank You,

Max Mikhailov

Soeren_B · 24/01/03, 14.48

Hi Max

This is very nice work

/Soeren

Hanz Petrov · 25/01/03, 03.24

Screenshots here for the unbelievers :-)

http://www3.sympatico.ca/abvj/

p.s. Thanks for the idea on the theme Soeren :-) can't believe I missed it the first time around.. :-P

Daniel Drummond · 25/01/03, 03.34

Nice look and sound! Great job!

Soeren_B · 25/01/03, 09.07

Citazione:

Originally posted by Hanz Petrov
Screenshots here for the unbelievers :-)

http://www3.sympatico.ca/abvj/

p.s. Thanks for the idea on the theme Soeren :-) can't believe I missed it the first time around.. :-P

All you 10kx are belong to us!

/S

Samir · 25/01/03, 12.43

Hehe, seems like someone, somehow, managed to stick good old reverb into my computer monitor...
Reminds me of an good old time! kX rules!

Decki, svaka cast!

RIV@NVX · 25/01/03, 13.20

Max you are in one word - KING.
Or maybe emperor... THIS RULES!
Thanks! burN 'eM

Hanz Petrov · 25/01/03, 14.53

Heya Riva :-)

So if Max is king/emporer, what does that make Eugene...? Sumpreme kX Being? ;-)

All hail the kX team!

p.s. Thanks for setting us up here Riva - DriverHeaven is very cool.. although I kinda miss the pop-up ads.. NOT!
:-)

ksk · 26/01/03, 03.46

thumb up!!!!

RIV@NVX · 26/01/03, 09.53

It would be cool to have more plugins this way

inteks · 26/01/03, 17.20

thats looks mega cool !!! is the new driver completely in that style ???
can't await it.

have fun
tom

ksk · 27/01/03, 02.48

i selected "rock" preset in the EQ G10.
after i reopen the tweak options of this plugin, it shows "custom" in the preset. it should be show "rock" not "custom".
show "custom" only if we change the options of the "preset"

bardnone · 27/01/03, 10.12

It's so cool

TheKezmiester · 28/01/03, 01.59

...Now you've really outdone yourself this time Max! This is a very good thing...

RIV@NVX · 28/01/03, 14.01

@ksk - Timbre has the same issue. Hope that Max can fix it...
@inteks - I hope too - looks professional, doesn't it?

strangeloop · 28/01/03, 17.10

They're looking great and sounding even better!

Thank you!

I'm also hoping (and expecting) this is going to be the new GUI style... it's very nice.

One very little remark about the choose-preset menu: most dropout menus (that's what they call it, isn't it? I'm not sure in English) in Windows come falling down if you click anywhere on them, and not only if you click on the rightmost arrow.

RIV@NVX · 08/02/03, 12.24

Hmmm... doesn't work with 3529 (actually messes it up completely). Max, can you do an update?

Max M. · 08/02/03, 17.06

Thanks. Of course it does not work with 29. Did not i say this before? Update? ha-ha "update"... i have to rewrite everything....

RIV@NVX · 08/02/03, 17.25

Citazione:

Originally posted by Max M.
Thanks. Of course it does not work with 29. Did not i say this before? Update? ha-ha "update"... i have to rewrite everything....

Then go, rewrite it!

Max M. · 08/02/03, 18.21

of course, however i cannot promise it will be too soon...

Max M. · 09/02/03, 21.00

hello again.

update for 29 is available:
http://kxdev.narod.ru/ufxsetup.exe

previous version (28) is still available as http://kxdev.narod.ru/ufxsetup.28.exe

This is not update we've talked above but experimental update based on special "28 on 29" emulator instead.

thanks.

RIV@NVX · 10/02/03, 14.39

Suggestion - use "save target as", it will not work otherwise.
I will test it... nice to see such a quick update!

eyagos · 16/02/03, 21.41

Good work Max, very good. Smart and precise design.

I think too that the design job is nearly over (except some small bugs). The final step would be a "smarter" design for the level meters, so they could be included in some plugin windows as Compressor or Equalizer:

- I have modified the APS Compressor plugin so the gain can be monitored with a peak plugin, and it would be fantastic if it could be included in the same window (you can get the kxl (for 3529) in a post of this forum).

- In the Equalizer I have observed that some presets produce clipping, and it would be grate too if it could be monitored in the same window (with less than 1% of resources more). And an automatic gain control to avoid clipping would be very apreciated too.

Another thing, will be this gui avaliable in the SDK?

Max M. · 18/02/03, 13.21

Thank you.

peakmeters - yep, actually EQG10 had build-in peak-meter (in some alpha vers.) but i've decided to remove it.
The truth is that we've already run out of dsp resources (so that in next kx ver 30 -Timbre is used instead of EQ for SBLive models...)...

So actually i'm thinking about some "smarter" peakmeter architecture - like maybe peakmeter as separate "child" plugin which can be loaded/unloaded automatically when user enables/disables metering, but with view of it from same EQ window of course...

As for compressor, yep, i think, the good way will be to put peakmeter right into compressor code... actually, there's nothing difficult to do this... Also i'm not sure about 29, but for 28 and all of erlier versions it could be done without any special controls/functions of kx (see instructions below)...

>with less than 1% of resources more

yep, but see above, Live have no even 1% of resource this days (damn mixer

...

>And an automatic gain control to avoid clipping would be very apreciated too.

Presets for EQ are designed with "same volume subjective feel" in mind, so yep, clipping may of course occure for some material depending on its spectral content...

>And an automatic gain control to avoid clipping would be very apreciated too.

But not built into EQ itself. "Input Gain" is there exactly for such situation.
Separate "Limiter" or "AGC" plugins put before output stage of kx dsp would be another option (but not loaded by default).

>Another thing, will be this gui avaliable in the SDK?

Some day. It's actually hard a bit to publish something solid these days, since native kxgui and so uniform (kxgui independend but somewhat linked to ) are being constantly updated now... Also i'd prefer to concentrate on writing plugins themselves raither then on making SDK for them at the moment.
I'll publish some example sources for "uniform" soon maybe, although, i don't think they will be too usefull without any documentation.

---------
PeakMeter
---------

(i've posted this on some mailing list some days ago)

---------

Codice:

name "peak meter";
created "07/23/2002";

input in
static peak
temp t

log   t, in, 31i, 1i
limit peak, t, t, peak
end

just read the value of "peak" register on some timer (for example ~16 times per second) and write zero to it after reading...

#define UNITY_GAIN_COEFF 0x78000000L // this is for standard 0.25 level
#define MAGIC_NUMBER 0xaaaaaaaa

ValueToShow = (peak - UNITY_GAIN_COEFF) / MAGIC_NUMBER;

/* this for example gives you ValueToShow right in decibels... (of course you need more presice measurement so you need to decrease MAGIC_NUMBER or make ValueToShow to be float/double... - i use MAGIC_NUMBER = 0x111111 which gives me ValueToShow in centibels, Eugene uses some other "floating point" formula as i know etc... that depends on how you are going to show "peak" to user) */

/max

-----------

Well, as for visual implementation, so before kx29, one could use MFC's CProgressCtrl for example or something similiar... However, these days, maybe it's too late to use MFC with native kx plugin api (since kxapi/kxgui are being rewritten to be MFC free) and too early too use new kxgui for that (since it is not yet complete, E., fixme, is special control dedicated to peakmetering there?)...

Daniel Drummond · 03/03/03, 02.58

Update to 3530? Please? Thanks!!!

Max M. · 03/03/03, 03.42

yes, of course - http://kxdev.narod.ru/ufx/ufxsetup.30.exe

Daniel Drummond · 03/03/03, 04.19

Hey, that was fast! Thank you very much! KX 3530 kicks ass, specially with these great plugins... 2 asses kicked...
*update* just tested them and they're working just fine. Even my saved settings are working ok.

Max M. · 05/03/03, 00.32

(3 pages "Getting Started" draft for "Reverb R" is available as http://kxdev.narod.ru/ufx/reverb_r.pdf)

zonta · 05/03/03, 13.38

Max M. · 05/03/03, 16.16

28: http://kxdev.narod.ru/ufx/ufxsetup.28.exe
29: http://kxdev.narod.ru/ufx/ufxsetup.29.exe
30: http://kxdev.narod.ru/ufx/ufxsetup.30.exe

24/01/03, 05.17	#1
Max M. h/h member-shmember Data registrazione: 07/12/02 Luogo: Evil Empire Messaggi: 2.537 Potenza rep.: 55	plugins for testing Guys, i have a news for you. From now an on, the UFX package is not anymore free of charge - it becomes "commercial". If you've downloaded and used it before 4th November of 2007 - you're still free to use it. But right form today and further, the UFX's author asks you to donate some amount of money you feel affordable for you to "Podari Zhizn'!" relief fund. It's a fund to help the children suffering from oncological and hematologic sickness. The requisites you need are: Ôîíä Ïîäàðè æèçíü! Ðåêâèçèòû If you do not want to help these particular Russian children or you're feeling you don't like Russia whatever it goes - it's OK - we don't want to force you - it's equal if you just do the same for the children of your own country. Please - do so. Max promises you - these kids will gift to our next generation thousands of new UFXs - just if they do not die. Thank You, Max Mikhailov __________________ Ultima modifica da Max M. il 11/11/07 alle ore 07.22

25/01/03, 03.24	#3
Hanz Petrov kX Project Counsel Data registrazione: 17/01/03 Luogo: Canada, eh? Messaggi: 78 Potenza rep.: 0	all your fx are belong to us Screenshots here for the unbelievers :-) http://www3.sympatico.ca/abvj/ p.s. Thanks for the idea on the theme Soeren :-) can't believe I missed it the first time around.. :-P Ultima modifica da Hanz Petrov il 25/01/03 alle ore 03.45

25/01/03, 03.34	#4
Daniel Drummond DriverHeaven Senior Member Data registrazione: 07/12/02 Luogo: Brazil Messaggi: 1.137 Potenza rep.: 0	Nice look and sound! Great job! __________________ www.palcomp3.com.br/ed

25/01/03, 13.20	#7
RIV@NVX Freedom is a feature. Data registrazione: 10/07/02 Luogo: Croatia, Rijeka Messaggi: 4.476 Potenza rep.: 58 System Specs	Max you are in one word - KING. Or maybe emperor... THIS RULES! Thanks! burN 'eM __________________ -- Vedran

26/01/03, 03.46	#9
ksk DriverHeaven Junior Member Data registrazione: 08/12/02 Luogo: malaysia Messaggi: 29 Potenza rep.: 0	Good good good thumb up!!!!

24/01/03, 14.48	#2
Soeren_B kX Project DSP Engineer Data registrazione: 12/12/02 Luogo: Denmark Messaggi: 94 Potenza rep.: 0	Hi Max This is very nice work /Soeren

25/01/03, 12.43	#6
Samir kX Lover Data registrazione: 14/01/03 Messaggi: 522 Potenza rep.: 0	Hehe, seems like someone, somehow, managed to stick good old reverb into my computer monitor... Reminds me of an good old time! kX rules! Decki, svaka cast!

25/01/03, 14.53	#8
Hanz Petrov kX Project Counsel Data registrazione: 17/01/03 Luogo: Canada, eh? Messaggi: 78 Potenza rep.: 0	Heya Riva :-) So if Max is king/emporer, what does that make Eugene...? Sumpreme kX Being? ;-) All hail the kX team! p.s. Thanks for setting us up here Riva - DriverHeaven is very cool.. although I kinda miss the pop-up ads.. NOT! :-)

26/01/03, 09.53	#10
RIV@NVX Freedom is a feature. Data registrazione: 10/07/02 Luogo: Croatia, Rijeka Messaggi: 4.476 Potenza rep.: 58 System Specs	It would be cool to have more plugins this way __________________ -- Vedran

26/01/03, 17.20	#11
inteks DriverHeaven Junior Member Data registrazione: 28/11/02 Luogo: Germany Messaggi: 89 Potenza rep.: 0	mega cool thats looks mega cool !!! is the new driver completely in that style ??? can't await it. have fun tom __________________ http://ufmclan.de http://unitedFlakMonkeys.de

27/01/03, 02.48	#12
ksk DriverHeaven Junior Member Data registrazione: 08/12/02 Luogo: malaysia Messaggi: 29 Potenza rep.: 0	suggestion... i selected "rock" preset in the EQ G10. after i reopen the tweak options of this plugin, it shows "custom" in the preset. it should be show "rock" not "custom". show "custom" only if we change the options of the "preset"

27/01/03, 10.12	#13
bardnone DriverHeaven Junior Member Data registrazione: 27/01/03 Messaggi: 41 Potenza rep.: 0	cool It's so cool

28/01/03, 01.59	#14
TheKezmiester DriverHeaven Junior Member Data registrazione: 17/12/02 Messaggi: 49 Potenza rep.: 0	ohhh yeah! ...Now you've really outdone yourself this time Max! This is a very good thing...

28/01/03, 14.01	#15
RIV@NVX Freedom is a feature. Data registrazione: 10/07/02 Luogo: Croatia, Rijeka Messaggi: 4.476 Potenza rep.: 58 System Specs	@ksk - Timbre has the same issue. Hope that Max can fix it... @inteks - I hope too - looks professional, doesn't it? __________________ -- Vedran

28/01/03, 17.10	#16
strangeloop DriverHeaven Newbie Data registrazione: 22/01/03 Luogo: Leiden, The Netherlands Messaggi: 14 Potenza rep.: 0	Yeah! They're looking great and sounding even better! Thank you! I'm also hoping (and expecting) this is going to be the new GUI style... it's very nice. One very little remark about the choose-preset menu: most dropout menus (that's what they call it, isn't it? I'm not sure in English) in Windows come falling down if you click anywhere on them, and not only if you click on the rightmost arrow. __________________ This inert sentence is my body, but my soul is alive, dancing in the sparks of your brain

08/02/03, 12.24	#17
RIV@NVX Freedom is a feature. Data registrazione: 10/07/02 Luogo: Croatia, Rijeka Messaggi: 4.476 Potenza rep.: 58 System Specs	Hmmm... doesn't work with 3529 (actually messes it up completely). Max, can you do an update? __________________ -- Vedran

08/02/03, 17.06	Threadstarter #18
Max M. h/h member-shmember Data registrazione: 07/12/02 Luogo: Evil Empire Messaggi: 2.537 Potenza rep.: 55	Thanks. Of course it does not work with 29. Did not i say this before? Update? ha-ha "update"... i have to rewrite everything.... __________________

08/02/03, 18.21	Threadstarter #20
Max M. h/h member-shmember Data registrazione: 07/12/02 Luogo: Evil Empire Messaggi: 2.537 Potenza rep.: 55	of course, however i cannot promise it will be too soon... __________________

09/02/03, 21.00	Threadstarter #21
Max M. h/h member-shmember Data registrazione: 07/12/02 Luogo: Evil Empire Messaggi: 2.537 Potenza rep.: 55	hello again. update for 29 is available: http://kxdev.narod.ru/ufxsetup.exe previous version (28) is still available as http://kxdev.narod.ru/ufxsetup.28.exe This is not update we've talked above but experimental update based on special "28 on 29" emulator instead. thanks. __________________

10/02/03, 14.39	#22
RIV@NVX Freedom is a feature. Data registrazione: 10/07/02 Luogo: Croatia, Rijeka Messaggi: 4.476 Potenza rep.: 58 System Specs	Suggestion - use "save target as", it will not work otherwise. I will test it... nice to see such a quick update! __________________ -- Vedran

16/02/03, 21.41	#23
eyagos DriverHeaven Addict Data registrazione: 11/12/02 Messaggi: 259 Potenza rep.: 0	Good work Max, very good. Smart and precise design. I think too that the design job is nearly over (except some small bugs). The final step would be a "smarter" design for the level meters, so they could be included in some plugin windows as Compressor or Equalizer: - I have modified the APS Compressor plugin so the gain can be monitored with a peak plugin, and it would be fantastic if it could be included in the same window (you can get the kxl (for 3529) in a post of this forum). - In the Equalizer I have observed that some presets produce clipping, and it would be grate too if it could be monitored in the same window (with less than 1% of resources more). And an automatic gain control to avoid clipping would be very apreciated too. Another thing, will be this gui avaliable in the SDK?

18/02/03, 13.21	Threadstarter #24
Max M. h/h member-shmember Data registrazione: 07/12/02 Luogo: Evil Empire Messaggi: 2.537 Potenza rep.: 55	Thank you. peakmeters - yep, actually EQG10 had build-in peak-meter (in some alpha vers.) but i've decided to remove it. The truth is that we've already run out of dsp resources (so that in next kx ver 30 -Timbre is used instead of EQ for SBLive models...)... So actually i'm thinking about some "smarter" peakmeter architecture - like maybe peakmeter as separate "child" plugin which can be loaded/unloaded automatically when user enables/disables metering, but with view of it from same EQ window of course... As for compressor, yep, i think, the good way will be to put peakmeter right into compressor code... actually, there's nothing difficult to do this... Also i'm not sure about 29, but for 28 and all of erlier versions it could be done without any special controls/functions of kx (see instructions below)... >with less than 1% of resources more yep, but see above, Live have no even 1% of resource this days (damn mixer ... >And an automatic gain control to avoid clipping would be very apreciated too. Presets for EQ are designed with "same volume subjective feel" in mind, so yep, clipping may of course occure for some material depending on its spectral content... >And an automatic gain control to avoid clipping would be very apreciated too. But not built into EQ itself. "Input Gain" is there exactly for such situation. Separate "Limiter" or "AGC" plugins put before output stage of kx dsp would be another option (but not loaded by default). >Another thing, will be this gui avaliable in the SDK? Some day. It's actually hard a bit to publish something solid these days, since native kxgui and so uniform (kxgui independend but somewhat linked to ) are being constantly updated now... Also i'd prefer to concentrate on writing plugins themselves raither then on making SDK for them at the moment. I'll publish some example sources for "uniform" soon maybe, although, i don't think they will be too usefull without any documentation. --------- PeakMeter --------- (i've posted this on some mailing list some days ago) --------- Codice: name "peak meter"; created "07/23/2002"; input in static peak temp t log t, in, 31i, 1i limit peak, t, t, peak end just read the value of "peak" register on some timer (for example ~16 times per second) and write zero to it after reading... #define UNITY_GAIN_COEFF 0x78000000L // this is for standard 0.25 level #define MAGIC_NUMBER 0xaaaaaaaa ValueToShow = (peak - UNITY_GAIN_COEFF) / MAGIC_NUMBER; /* this for example gives you ValueToShow right in decibels... (of course you need more presice measurement so you need to decrease MAGIC_NUMBER or make ValueToShow to be float/double... - i use MAGIC_NUMBER = 0x111111 which gives me ValueToShow in centibels, Eugene uses some other "floating point" formula as i know etc... that depends on how you are going to show "peak" to user) / /max ----------- Well, as for visual implementation, so before kx29, one could use MFC's CProgressCtrl for example or something similiar... However, these days, maybe it's too late to use MFC with native kx plugin api (since kxapi/kxgui are being rewritten to be MFC free) and too early too use new kxgui for that (since it is not yet complete, E., fixme, is special control dedicated to peakmetering there?)... __________________ Ultima modifica da Max M. il 18/02/03 alle ore 13.30*

03/03/03, 02.58	#25
Daniel Drummond DriverHeaven Senior Member Data registrazione: 07/12/02 Luogo: Brazil Messaggi: 1.137 Potenza rep.: 0	Update to 3530? Please? Thanks!!! __________________ www.palcomp3.com.br/ed

03/03/03, 03.42	Threadstarter #26
Max M. h/h member-shmember Data registrazione: 07/12/02 Luogo: Evil Empire Messaggi: 2.537 Potenza rep.: 55	yes, of course - http://kxdev.narod.ru/ufx/ufxsetup.30.exe __________________

03/03/03, 04.19	#27
Daniel Drummond DriverHeaven Senior Member Data registrazione: 07/12/02 Luogo: Brazil Messaggi: 1.137 Potenza rep.: 0	Hey, that was fast! Thank you very much! KX 3530 kicks ass, specially with these great plugins... 2 asses kicked... update just tested them and they're working just fine. Even my saved settings are working ok. __________________ www.palcomp3.com.br/ed Ultima modifica da Daniel Drummond il 03/03/03 alle ore 04.28

05/03/03, 00.32	Threadstarter #28
Max M. h/h member-shmember Data registrazione: 07/12/02 Luogo: Evil Empire Messaggi: 2.537 Potenza rep.: 55	(3 pages "Getting Started" draft for "Reverb R" is available as http://kxdev.narod.ru/ufx/reverb_r.pdf) __________________

05/03/03, 13.38	#29
zonta DriverHeaven Newbie Data registrazione: 30/12/02 Messaggi: 19 Potenza rep.: 0	ufxsetup.exe...the link is down...

05/03/03, 16.16	Threadstarter #30
Max M. h/h member-shmember Data registrazione: 07/12/02 Luogo: Evil Empire Messaggi: 2.537 Potenza rep.: 55	28: http://kxdev.narod.ru/ufx/ufxsetup.28.exe 29: http://kxdev.narod.ru/ufx/ufxsetup.29.exe 30: http://kxdev.narod.ru/ufx/ufxsetup.30.exe __________________

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