Forum: Hotmail and Yahoo accounts banned from joining up

Zardon · Aug 28, 2006, 01:43 PM

Due to the huge amount of spam we are getting from these two free email providers I have banned all yahoo and hotmail email accounts from registering on our forums.

This was a step I tried to avoid for as long as possible, however we are getting between 300-500 spam posts on our forum every week on Driver Heaven and it is taking huge staff resources to combat this problem.

Falstaff · Aug 28, 2006, 02:35 PM

I currently have a Yahoo account for my email, should I change it to something else Allan?

Zardon · Aug 28, 2006, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Falstaff

I currently have a Yahoo account for my email, should I change it to something else Allan?

No its set so current users are ok Jeff. I didn't want to have to do this, but the amount of spam posted on DH right now is tying up the moderators on tasks they shouldnt be doing. Hopefully this eases the load. Obviously this is going to affect some legitimate users so I apologise in advance for that, but trust me dealing with yahoo or hotmail support trying to report repeat IP offenders under multiple accounts is a waste of time. The support is a joke. therefore due to yahoo and hotmail support ive just did a site wide ban from anyone using their accounts.

Also as Pj says, if you theorectically change it then try and change back it wont work......

Falstaff · Aug 28, 2006, 04:10 PM

okey doke...
who is the king of spam...
we should E-bomb him!!

mainman · Aug 28, 2006, 06:04 PM

Really think this should be a sticky, since it's useful info for people that may want to join the site.

CDsDontBurn · Aug 28, 2006, 06:10 PM

if this starts to be an issue w/spam accounts trying to sign up w/gmail, will gmail face the same fate?

Zardon · Aug 28, 2006, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by CDsDontBurn

if this starts to be an issue w/spam accounts trying to sign up w/gmail, will gmail face the same fate?

Very few people use gmail to spam the forum, so right now no.

**temeteus82** · Aug 28, 2006, 06:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Falstaff

okey doke...
who is the king of spam...
we should E-bomb him!!

make it king's of smap... I have 10001 spam mails in my "spam" e-mail account

EMP to the servers that spammers uses would bee welcome...

Robert McClelland · Aug 29, 2006, 08:02 PM

Zardon if you want to you might have used there ISP email for joining up maybe that would stop the spaming around I had tell John couple days ago someone was spaming the forum very late Sunday night good thing John was on that time and he took care of it

Zardon · Aug 29, 2006, 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Robert McClelland

Zardon if you want to you might have used there ISP email for joining up maybe that would stop the spaming around

Robert, Im not sure what you mean mate. by blocking hotmail and yahoo, im hoping more people will use their ISP email - therefore assuring we get legitmate users joining the forum rather than "iluvfones4045" who is selling 400 nokia phones for $5, thats the whole idea.

Judas · Aug 29, 2006, 08:57 PM

i don't have, can't get an email from my isp enless i pay extra..

but alas, i'm already signed up, it's all goodith.

Zardon · Aug 29, 2006, 09:14 PM

I know its not ideal judas, but really its the only alternative we have right now, and so far its working. obviously its not fool proof but its a start and certainly a deterant.

Judas · Aug 29, 2006, 09:43 PM

no no, not saying anything bad about the dicision, just mentioning my own case and that there are quite a few people that don't have emails provided by there ISPs.

I'm sure we all can find other places in which to signup and get through. I was actually expecting this to happen quite awhile ago because really, it's the most logical and easiest solution to try out.

Maddogg6 · Aug 29, 2006, 09:52 PM

Another potential side effect is...
I *thought* yahoo WAS an ISP as well.... and thus their ISP email may have the yahoo.com as well.... but I *could* be wrong on that (like yahoo ISP issued 'yahoomail' or something unique from the FREE email they have..?? like MSN and hotmail are segregated)
Thus Im thinking the repricussions to legit users may be more than you were thinking..??

Just pointing that out... sorry, no solution to a problem I am completely sympethetic to.

Zardon · Aug 29, 2006, 09:59 PM

Im sure it will affect legitmate users, but after dealing with yahoo and hotmail support in reporting these issues I am past caring.

We have had spam users on many ISPS and when I show them reports. those users are always banned along with their IPS in joining up again. Hotmail and yahoo just automate messages and their support staff are idiots. Its a serious problem we are having. Since we have done this, spam and forum pollution has dropped almost 95 percent.

Any guests reading this who are affected, get an email account with a reputable free host, there are many out there. At least if you start abusing the forums I can get you removed from their side as well.

Erroneus · Aug 29, 2006, 10:28 PM

*Offtopic* Did posts vanish from this thread or is just me?

**dj_stick** · Aug 29, 2006, 10:31 PM

you probably mean the thread in the news forum

Erroneus · Aug 30, 2006, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by dj_stick

you probably mean the thread in the news forum

Ah yes

http://www.hardwareheaven.com/other-tech-news/116598-dh-forum-hotmail-yahoo-accounts-banned-joining-up.html

IamLakota · Aug 23, 2007, 01:01 AM

Wow I've had my hotmail account longer than I've been a member of DH,I hope
my account dont get trashed here on DH. I love this place.

**dj_stick** · Aug 23, 2007, 01:15 AM

your account won't get trashed, it's only for users trying to sign up with accoutns from those sites

if you already have an account signed up with hotmail or yahoo, there won't be any issue

Dyre Straits · Aug 23, 2007, 07:00 AM

Have there been any problems with gmail accounts? Just curious as it may be an alternative for those needing a free email to sign up.

***craig5320*** · Aug 23, 2007, 10:23 AM

Gmail aren't currently banned, Anyone currently with a hotmail account is fine, we don't enforce strict email banning just new sign ups, I'm gonna close this thread as it's quite old now. Thanks

Aug 28, 2006, 01:43 PM	#1
Zardon DriverHeaven Founder Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 32,480 Rep Power: 179	Forum: Hotmail and Yahoo accounts banned from joining up Due to the huge amount of spam we are getting from these two free email providers I have banned all yahoo and hotmail email accounts from registering on our forums. This was a step I tried to avoid for as long as possible, however we are getting between 300-500 spam posts on our forum every week on Driver Heaven and it is taking huge staff resources to combat this problem.

Aug 28, 2006, 02:35 PM	#2
Falstaff Old Codger Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: USAFA Posts: 19,048 Rep Power: 207	I currently have a Yahoo account for my email, should I change it to something else Allan? __________________ "Inspiration is always a surprising visitor."

Aug 28, 2006, 04:10 PM	#4
Falstaff Old Codger Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: USAFA Posts: 19,048 Rep Power: 207	okey doke... who is the king of spam... we should E-bomb him!! __________________ "Inspiration is always a surprising visitor."

Aug 28, 2006, 06:04 PM	#5
mainman Mr. Nobody Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: OmniPresent Nightwatcher Posts: 5,961 Rep Power: 71	Really think this should be a sticky, since it's useful info for people that may want to join the site. __________________

Aug 28, 2006, 06:10 PM	#6
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Aug 29, 2006, 08:02 PM	#9
Robert McClelland PAX Tweaker, PAX Expert. Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Somewhere in Wood County Ohio Same Town :) Posts: 10,643 Rep Power: 196 System Specs	Zardon if you want to you might have used there ISP email for joining up maybe that would stop the spaming around I had tell John couple days ago someone was spaming the forum very late Sunday night good thing John was on that time and he took care of it __________________ "XTREME AUDIO IS CRAP!" "There no support for it. It's crapist card on face of the earth it should be throw into the sun" http://www.speedtest.net/result/1949536385.png

Aug 29, 2006, 09:14 PM	Thread Starter #12
Zardon DriverHeaven Founder Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 32,480 Rep Power: 179	I know its not ideal judas, but really its the only alternative we have right now, and so far its working. obviously its not fool proof but its a start and certainly a deterant.

Aug 29, 2006, 09:52 PM	#14
Maddogg6 Tail Razer Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Bernyurass, AZ - USA Posts: 4,027 Rep Power: 0	Another potential side effect is... I thought yahoo WAS an ISP as well.... and thus their ISP email may have the yahoo.com as well.... but I could be wrong on that (like yahoo ISP issued 'yahoomail' or something unique from the FREE email they have..?? like MSN and hotmail are segregated) Thus Im thinking the repricussions to legit users may be more than you were thinking..?? Just pointing that out... sorry, no solution to a problem I am completely sympethetic to.

Aug 29, 2006, 09:59 PM	Thread Starter #15
Zardon DriverHeaven Founder Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 32,480 Rep Power: 179	Im sure it will affect legitmate users, but after dealing with yahoo and hotmail support in reporting these issues I am past caring. We have had spam users on many ISPS and when I show them reports. those users are always banned along with their IPS in joining up again. Hotmail and yahoo just automate messages and their support staff are idiots. Its a serious problem we are having. Since we have done this, spam and forum pollution has dropped almost 95 percent. Any guests reading this who are affected, get an email account with a reputable free host, there are many out there. At least if you start abusing the forums I can get you removed from their side as well.

Aug 29, 2006, 10:28 PM	#16
Erroneus Get off my lawn! Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Denmark Posts: 13,417 Rep Power: 119 System Specs	Offtopic Did posts vanish from this thread or is just me? __________________

Aug 23, 2007, 01:01 AM	#19
IamLakota HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Viriginia Posts: 552 Rep Power: 0	Wow I've had my hotmail account longer than I've been a member of DH,I hope my account dont get trashed here on DH. I love this place. __________________ Harley Davidson: If You Have To Ask You Wouldn't Understand!!! System Specs: Mobo:Asus P6T Deluxe V2,intel i7 920,2x BFG GTX 250 oc in SLI,Corsair 6gigs tri channel pc12800CL8 2xWD Velociraptor's 2x74gig WD Raptor , X-Fi Fatal1ty Titainium,HANNS-G HG281HD 1080p 28" monitor,Coolermaster HAF/922,PC-PWR&Cooling Sliencer 750,CoolerMaster V8 HSF

Aug 23, 2007, 10:23 AM	#22
*craig5320* HH Administrator Join Date: May 2002 Location: Manchester, UK Posts: 8,565 Rep Power: 445 System Specs	Gmail aren't currently banned, Anyone currently with a hotmail account is fine, we don't enforce strict email banning just new sign ups, I'm gonna close this thread as it's quite old now. Thanks __________________ HardwareHeaven on Facebook