BFG Trade up ads causes 100%

Robert McClelland · Jun 17, 2009, 04:31 AM

Hi let you know I'm still having issue with cpu usage with those darn BFG ads everthing else all great lol. when I reply those bfg ads come up it makes my typing slow lol.

CDsDontBurn · Jun 17, 2009, 07:01 AM

you're not alone. the same is occurring to me at home, work, and on my gf's computer (higher CPU usage on my gf's computer but not 100% since it is a newer CPU and can handle tasks better and more efficiently). and btw robert, this isn't the first time a BFG ad has caused this. IIRC, this is now the 3rd BFG ad that is causing CPU slow down.

one had the water effect to it, and i'm pretty sure the other BFG ad is still running on the site.

personally, i don't think that the ad will be taken down any time soon.

i think the best thing to do, if your run FF, is to get an ad-block add-on, and use it to block all the ads provided by DH. it's the only thing that really works.

EDIT:
found the link of the previous thread.

http://www.hardwareheaven.com/feedback...cpu-usage.html

**kris23** · Jun 17, 2009, 07:36 AM

yea my system spikes to 60% with two open, 40% with one and otherwise sits at 11% without em....

on firefox and Win7 x64

Zardon · Jun 17, 2009, 08:08 AM

Thanks for reporting the issue Robert I will let the team know.

mkk · Jun 17, 2009, 08:19 AM

Edit: ok the tradeup ads don't show up for my area it seems.

Old post:
I don't think I've spottet any Trade-up ad but I've tested now with IE8, Opera and Firefox having two (top and right side) pretty flashy BFG ads up at the same time in the reply (advanced) window. No problems really but Firefox certainly draws the most with flash as usual, bit spiking at no more than 15% with two ads.

Running Opera and Firefox side by side with both ads amounted to spikes at 25%. IE8 was smooth sailing all over. Very latest flash plugin for all browsers. Win7 x64. No web-scanning antivirus running.

Zardon · Jun 17, 2009, 09:06 AM

some of the ads are region specific and I don't see them either - might be a USA only ad, ive filed a report on it.

Tyrsonswood · Jun 17, 2009, 12:06 PM

I see those ads, the BFG trade up ad, but not seeing extreme CPU usage in chrome..... haven't checked with IE8. The old ads was why I switched to chrome to begin with because IE8/IE7 would stall with some of them....... Not a big issue for me, ads are needed, just stating what I'm seeing from here.

Zardon · Jun 17, 2009, 12:14 PM

Yes ads are needed but only by these reports do I hear about issues as some are location specific, I know BFG ads in the past caused issues and one of them was removed totally. I am only part of a team guys and I dont deal with advertising. I have flagged this thread to the sales team and they are looking into it. Pming me and saying "REMOVE IT!" doesn't really help matters.

I apologise for the issues, hopefully people don't all just block the ads as it won't fund the site, although I do appreciate the reasons why some people do. I make sure we don't run pop ups, sound ads or annoying text link overs, but sometimes it seems BFG like to go nuts with the flash filters.

It is being looked into, thanks.

Zardon · Jun 17, 2009, 12:37 PM

ok our team found out a BFG leaderboard ad that was indeed causing CPU spiking. they made a JPG of the flash file and we are using that.

If any of you run into issues with the BFG ads, please try and take a screenshot so we can isolate it. thanks guys.

Tyrsonswood · Jun 17, 2009, 01:07 PM

Thanks Z

Robert McClelland · Jun 17, 2009, 07:04 PM

Here you go Guys here proof

http://img34.imageshack.us/i/cpuusage100.jpg/
Sorry for cruddy pic lol only free snap I can find at moment lol

Zardon · Jun 17, 2009, 08:34 PM

Robert,

Are you saying the ad we changed (read in this thread) isn't the one you are still seeing?

Robert McClelland · Jun 17, 2009, 08:36 PM

Ya I think so I let you know later some time that trade up ad goes to right side when I reply in my youp pax forum it drive me nuts.

Zardon · Jun 17, 2009, 08:39 PM

Ok well our guys removed one earlier today so if you see anymore post an image of it here and ill make sure they see it.

Robert McClelland · Jun 17, 2009, 08:48 PM

ATI ads no problem hehe

beside I think ATI ads look better then nvidia ads haha.
Ad came back to haunt me again lol

using opera I don't like firefox that much because ' box in firefox keeps poping up on me for some odd readson thats why I used opera alot. so I don't get that quicklink box by presing this '

Tyrsonswood · Jun 17, 2009, 08:58 PM

The side bar one does it too............ hits about 70-80% here, if I scroll down the page and it's no longer seen CPU usage drops to around 10%. I think the top banner one was the one that was fixed earlier. I added a second photo to show a low usage set of ads and the CPU usage difference

Not complaining myself, just trying to help Robert out. I have a similar processor as he, but don't see the slowdown with Chrome like I used to see with IE7/8.

Hope that helps.

Robert McClelland · Jun 17, 2009, 09:17 PM

There Tyrsonswood I updated my system specs I'm on P4 2.66 with intel 865PCD motherboard hehe.

Tyrsonswood · Jun 17, 2009, 09:33 PM

I've got a 2.8 P4 on an Intel/HP mobo....... so roughly the same. I was going by your posts from when you got the 2.66. Didn't read your specs.

Zardon · Jun 17, 2009, 09:46 PM

Guys, appreciate you are helping to support us by running the ads. you are good members of the community.

The top BFG trade up ad has been converted from a flash ad to a jpeg and ill mention now that the side ad is an issue as well.

It is important you report these because as im in a UK location I don't always experience the USA ads first hand.

Thanks.

**Mousey** · Jun 17, 2009, 10:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zardon

Guys, appreciate you are helping to support us by running the ads. you are good members of the community.

The top BFG trade up ad has been converted from a flash ad to a jpeg and ill mention now that the side ad is an issue as well.

It is important you report these because as im in a UK location I don't always experience the USA ads first hand.

Thanks.

Yeah same, i never get these 100% CPU Usage jumps so i used to wonder if something was wrong with everybody else's systems

lol.
Is it just the localised ads for the USA that do it? I'm only about 7/8% CPU Usage and i'm multi tasking

cozumel · Jun 17, 2009, 10:34 PM

Me too. Last I had any major problems with ads at DH was maybe 1.5 - 2 years ago. Currently no probs with CPU usage. On the downside, we don't get any trade-ins etc

Zardon · Jun 17, 2009, 10:41 PM

The majority of the ad issues are over zealous design by BFG in their ads. I have made the point before and when I found out today that they were causing issues it was flagged immediately.

I know most of you appreciate we need ads to keep going and its great you don't all block them so we can still pay our staff - so I want to make sure we keep good ads running. This means ads that are relevant to our readers without sounds, popups and annoying text hyperlinks. If I can force BFG to tone down the flash filters their ads are extremely relevant and pertinent to our audience (and I think most of us love BFG products).

Obviously the CPU usage isn't ideal which is why they are being adjusted when I find them. I will make sure that the BFG design team are aware of the issues with some of the ads also. Those causing issues have been converted by us into jpeg images today - hopefully this helps. As Cozumel says the USA guys do get the good deals though (swings and roundabouts, right?) !

Tyrsonswood · Jun 17, 2009, 10:49 PM

Maybe BFG is secretly trying to force us "older equipment guys" to upgrade........

That's a joke.

Thanks for being on top of it Z, You know I love this place.......

Robert McClelland · Jun 17, 2009, 11:13 PM

Ya most of us like Tyrsonswood we don't want upgrade just yet lol. Most my gaming on my ps3 anyway

plus windows 7 kicks ass on my p4 2.66 system lol runs great.

Tyrsonswood · Jun 17, 2009, 11:27 PM

Converting those ads to jpg really helped, cpu usage is way down from where it was. I just had both top and side ads at the same time, usage was around 13%.

DataCabbitKSW · Jun 24, 2009, 11:38 PM

I believe that Opera/Chrome/FF uses a slightly seperate plugin than the ActiveX based IE flash plugin. So the variance in CPU utilization will show between the two sets. Chrome's sandboxing of plugins sometimes gets flash to sometimes act in a better fashion, however Flash is still notoriously a resource and especially a CPU hog. I'm certainly glad that the admin staff of this board are very responsive and quick to notices posted about ads gone rogue.
I agree Robert, I have Windows 7 RC on two machines right now. An old celeron eMachines beast, and a nice Core2 Quad machine. Windows 7 seems to run pretty well on both. No reason to really upgrade the hardware yet on either of those two. The old eMachine only has 512MB of RAM in it, and I'm able ot use it as a media server just fine so that my other machines (and my PS3 in the living room) can stream off of it. Have you tried setting yours up as a media share for the PS3? (Sorry to hijack the direction, back to your previous postings on flash ads gone bad)

**Mousey** · Jun 24, 2009, 11:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DataCabbitKSW

I believe that Opera/Chrome/FF uses a slightly seperate plugin than the ActiveX based IE flash plugin. So the variance in CPU utilization will show between the two sets. Chrome's sandboxing of plugins sometimes gets flash to sometimes act in a better fashion, however Flash is still notoriously a resource and especially a CPU hog. I'm certainly glad that the admin staff of this board are very responsive and quick to notices posted about ads gone rogue.
I agree Robert, I have Windows 7 RC on two machines right now. An old celeron eMachines beast, and a nice Core2 Quad machine. Windows 7 seems to run pretty well on both. No reason to really upgrade the hardware yet on either of those two. The old eMachine only has 512MB of RAM in it, and I'm able ot use it as a media server just fine so that my other machines (and my PS3 in the living room) can stream off of it. Have you tried setting yours up as a media share for the PS3? (Sorry to hijack the direction, back to your previous postings on flash ads gone bad)

This may be the case, i'm no expert on the matter since i'm a UK DH User and i don't experience the 100% ads. However if the ads are causing issues in any browser for so many users then BFG Need to make sure they cut back on the (most likely) insane amount of flash layering or filters they're using which is making browsers crap out.

And i've seriously got the agree with the resource hog statement, once or twice i almost got tarpitted on a site that was stuffed to the brim with over-zealous flash ads and i couldn't even get my browser to shut without ending the process which still took forever for some reason

Zardon · Jun 25, 2009, 12:42 AM

ok well as this is a getting a bit off track now I will close it.

Any issues in the future, just open a new thread and we will deal with them one at a time. thanks.

Jun 17, 2009, 04:31 AM	#1
Robert McClelland PAX Tweaker, PAX Expert. Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Somewhere in Wood County Ohio Same Town :) Posts: 10,617 Rep Power: 196 System Specs	BFG Trade up ads causes 100% Hi let you know I'm still having issue with cpu usage with those darn BFG ads everthing else all great lol. when I reply those bfg ads come up it makes my typing slow lol. __________________ "XTREME AUDIO IS CRAP!" "There no support for it. It's crapist card on face of the earth it should be throw into the sun" http://www.speedtest.net/result/1949536385.png

Jun 17, 2009, 07:01 AM	#2
CDsDontBurn Lurking DriverHeaven Join Date: May 2003 Location: Southern California Posts: 22,779 Rep Power: 235 System Specs	Re: BFG Trade up ads causes 100% you're not alone. the same is occurring to me at home, work, and on my gf's computer (higher CPU usage on my gf's computer but not 100% since it is a newer CPU and can handle tasks better and more efficiently). and btw robert, this isn't the first time a BFG ad has caused this. IIRC, this is now the 3rd BFG ad that is causing CPU slow down. one had the water effect to it, and i'm pretty sure the other BFG ad is still running on the site. personally, i don't think that the ad will be taken down any time soon. i think the best thing to do, if your run FF, is to get an ad-block add-on, and use it to block all the ads provided by DH. it's the only thing that really works. EDIT: found the link of the previous thread. http://www.hardwareheaven.com/feedback...cpu-usage.html __________________ Her First Day \| A year later Last edited by CDsDontBurn; Jun 17, 2009 at 07:26 AM.

Jun 17, 2009, 07:36 AM	#3
kris23 Going Insane..... Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 6,017 Rep Power: 131 System Specs	Re: BFG Trade up ads causes 100% yea my system spikes to 60% with two open, 40% with one and otherwise sits at 11% without em.... on firefox and Win7 x64 __________________ Hardwareheaven Super-Moderator Building a new computer system and not sure where to start? Click Here! last updated (5/18/11) Rosewill FUTURE case replaces CM 690 II with its greater interior length. Building a PC: Step by Step Guide Written by Kristopher Pedemonte and Nathan Marks-Forder Edited by Allan Campbell Questions or Comments? feel free to post them in the forums!

Jun 17, 2009, 08:08 AM	#4
Zardon DriverHeaven Founder Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 32,480 Rep Power: 179	Re: BFG Trade up ads causes 100% Thanks for reporting the issue Robert I will let the team know.

Jun 17, 2009, 08:19 AM	#5
mkk Cthulhu/Dagon 2012 Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Gefle, Sweden Posts: 4,489 Rep Power: 132 System Specs	Re: BFG Trade up ads causes 100% Edit: ok the tradeup ads don't show up for my area it seems. Old post: I don't think I've spottet any Trade-up ad but I've tested now with IE8, Opera and Firefox having two (top and right side) pretty flashy BFG ads up at the same time in the reply (advanced) window. No problems really but Firefox certainly draws the most with flash as usual, bit spiking at no more than 15% with two ads. Running Opera and Firefox side by side with both ads amounted to spikes at 25%. IE8 was smooth sailing all over. Very latest flash plugin for all browsers. Win7 x64. No web-scanning antivirus running. Last edited by mkk; Jun 17, 2009 at 09:31 PM.

Jun 17, 2009, 09:06 AM	#6
Zardon DriverHeaven Founder Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 32,480 Rep Power: 179	Re: BFG Trade up ads causes 100% some of the ads are region specific and I don't see them either - might be a USA only ad, ive filed a report on it.

Jun 17, 2009, 12:14 PM	#8
Zardon DriverHeaven Founder Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 32,480 Rep Power: 179	Re: BFG Trade up ads causes 100% Yes ads are needed but only by these reports do I hear about issues as some are location specific, I know BFG ads in the past caused issues and one of them was removed totally. I am only part of a team guys and I dont deal with advertising. I have flagged this thread to the sales team and they are looking into it. Pming me and saying "REMOVE IT!" doesn't really help matters. I apologise for the issues, hopefully people don't all just block the ads as it won't fund the site, although I do appreciate the reasons why some people do. I make sure we don't run pop ups, sound ads or annoying text link overs, but sometimes it seems BFG like to go nuts with the flash filters. It is being looked into, thanks.

Jun 17, 2009, 12:37 PM	#9
Zardon DriverHeaven Founder Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 32,480 Rep Power: 179	Re: BFG Trade up ads causes 100% ok our team found out a BFG leaderboard ad that was indeed causing CPU spiking. they made a JPG of the flash file and we are using that. If any of you run into issues with the BFG ads, please try and take a screenshot so we can isolate it. thanks guys.

Jun 17, 2009, 07:04 PM	Thread Starter #11
Robert McClelland PAX Tweaker, PAX Expert. Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Somewhere in Wood County Ohio Same Town :) Posts: 10,617 Rep Power: 196 System Specs	Re: BFG Trade up ads causes 100% Here you go Guys here proof http://img34.imageshack.us/i/cpuusage100.jpg/ Sorry for cruddy pic lol only free snap I can find at moment lol __________________ "XTREME AUDIO IS CRAP!" "There no support for it. It's crapist card on face of the earth it should be throw into the sun" http://www.speedtest.net/result/1949536385.png Last edited by Robert McClelland; Jun 17, 2009 at 07:26 PM.

Jun 17, 2009, 08:34 PM	#12
Zardon DriverHeaven Founder Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 32,480 Rep Power: 179	Re: BFG Trade up ads causes 100% Robert, Are you saying the ad we changed (read in this thread) isn't the one you are still seeing?

Jun 17, 2009, 08:36 PM	Thread Starter #13
Robert McClelland PAX Tweaker, PAX Expert. Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Somewhere in Wood County Ohio Same Town :) Posts: 10,617 Rep Power: 196 System Specs	Re: BFG Trade up ads causes 100% Ya I think so I let you know later some time that trade up ad goes to right side when I reply in my youp pax forum it drive me nuts. __________________ "XTREME AUDIO IS CRAP!" "There no support for it. It's crapist card on face of the earth it should be throw into the sun" http://www.speedtest.net/result/1949536385.png

Jun 17, 2009, 08:39 PM	#14
Zardon DriverHeaven Founder Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 32,480 Rep Power: 179	Re: BFG Trade up ads causes 100% Ok well our guys removed one earlier today so if you see anymore post an image of it here and ill make sure they see it.

Jun 17, 2009, 08:48 PM	Thread Starter #15
Robert McClelland PAX Tweaker, PAX Expert. Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Somewhere in Wood County Ohio Same Town :) Posts: 10,617 Rep Power: 196 System Specs	Re: BFG Trade up ads causes 100% ATI ads no problem hehe beside I think ATI ads look better then nvidia ads haha. Ad came back to haunt me again lol using opera I don't like firefox that much because ' box in firefox keeps poping up on me for some odd readson thats why I used opera alot. so I don't get that quicklink box by presing this ' __________________ "XTREME AUDIO IS CRAP!" "There no support for it. It's crapist card on face of the earth it should be throw into the sun" http://www.speedtest.net/result/1949536385.png Last edited by Robert McClelland; Jun 17, 2009 at 09:13 PM.

Jun 17, 2009, 09:17 PM	Thread Starter #17
Robert McClelland PAX Tweaker, PAX Expert. Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Somewhere in Wood County Ohio Same Town :) Posts: 10,617 Rep Power: 196 System Specs	Re: BFG Trade up ads causes 100% There Tyrsonswood I updated my system specs I'm on P4 2.66 with intel 865PCD motherboard hehe. __________________ "XTREME AUDIO IS CRAP!" "There no support for it. It's crapist card on face of the earth it should be throw into the sun" http://www.speedtest.net/result/1949536385.png

Jun 17, 2009, 09:46 PM	#19
Zardon DriverHeaven Founder Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 32,480 Rep Power: 179	Re: BFG Trade up ads causes 100% Guys, appreciate you are helping to support us by running the ads. you are good members of the community. The top BFG trade up ad has been converted from a flash ad to a jpeg and ill mention now that the side ad is an issue as well. It is important you report these because as im in a UK location I don't always experience the USA ads first hand. Thanks.

Jun 17, 2009, 10:34 PM	#21
cozumel I'm dangerous but cute... Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Under the waves... Posts: 3,577 Rep Power: 60 System Specs	Re: BFG Trade up ads causes 100% Me too. Last I had any major problems with ads at DH was maybe 1.5 - 2 years ago. Currently no probs with CPU usage. On the downside, we don't get any trade-ins etc __________________ Don't worry about money - Be a beach bum! Scuba Rocks

Jun 17, 2009, 10:41 PM	#22
Zardon DriverHeaven Founder Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 32,480 Rep Power: 179	Re: BFG Trade up ads causes 100% The majority of the ad issues are over zealous design by BFG in their ads. I have made the point before and when I found out today that they were causing issues it was flagged immediately. I know most of you appreciate we need ads to keep going and its great you don't all block them so we can still pay our staff - so I want to make sure we keep good ads running. This means ads that are relevant to our readers without sounds, popups and annoying text hyperlinks. If I can force BFG to tone down the flash filters their ads are extremely relevant and pertinent to our audience (and I think most of us love BFG products). Obviously the CPU usage isn't ideal which is why they are being adjusted when I find them. I will make sure that the BFG design team are aware of the issues with some of the ads also. Those causing issues have been converted by us into jpeg images today - hopefully this helps. As Cozumel says the USA guys do get the good deals though (swings and roundabouts, right?) !

Jun 17, 2009, 11:13 PM	Thread Starter #24
Robert McClelland PAX Tweaker, PAX Expert. Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Somewhere in Wood County Ohio Same Town :) Posts: 10,617 Rep Power: 196 System Specs	Re: BFG Trade up ads causes 100% Ya most of us like Tyrsonswood we don't want upgrade just yet lol. Most my gaming on my ps3 anyway plus windows 7 kicks ass on my p4 2.66 system lol runs great. __________________ "XTREME AUDIO IS CRAP!" "There no support for it. It's crapist card on face of the earth it should be throw into the sun" http://www.speedtest.net/result/1949536385.png

Jun 24, 2009, 11:38 PM	#26
DataCabbitKSW DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 4 Rep Power: 0	Re: BFG Trade up ads causes 100% I believe that Opera/Chrome/FF uses a slightly seperate plugin than the ActiveX based IE flash plugin. So the variance in CPU utilization will show between the two sets. Chrome's sandboxing of plugins sometimes gets flash to sometimes act in a better fashion, however Flash is still notoriously a resource and especially a CPU hog. I'm certainly glad that the admin staff of this board are very responsive and quick to notices posted about ads gone rogue. I agree Robert, I have Windows 7 RC on two machines right now. An old celeron eMachines beast, and a nice Core2 Quad machine. Windows 7 seems to run pretty well on both. No reason to really upgrade the hardware yet on either of those two. The old eMachine only has 512MB of RAM in it, and I'm able ot use it as a media server just fine so that my other machines (and my PS3 in the living room) can stream off of it. Have you tried setting yours up as a media share for the PS3? (Sorry to hijack the direction, back to your previous postings on flash ads gone bad)

Jun 25, 2009, 12:42 AM	#28
Zardon DriverHeaven Founder Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 32,480 Rep Power: 179	Re: BFG Trade up ads causes 100% ok well as this is a getting a bit off track now I will close it. Any issues in the future, just open a new thread and we will deal with them one at a time. thanks.